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Figaro
12-14-2020, 05:39 PM
It's an earnest question, although it very well could just be normal sorts of stuff. It's curious though, that my dad gets more MENA hits than my mother (who really doesn't get any) on Dodecad K12b, despite my mother being confirmed 1/16 AJ.

My mother (1/2 Polish, 1/4 Danish, remaining 1/4 Swabian and AJ)

Corded's mom's Dodecad k12bAdmix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 49.8
2 Atlantic_Med 27.8
3 Caucasus 11.67
4 Gedrosia 5.99
5 Southwest_Asian 1.56
6 South_Asian 1.22
7 Northwest_African 0.86
8 East_Asian 0.61
9 Siberian 0.49

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 4.97
2 German (Dodecad) 5.71
3 Swedish (Dodecad) 12.46
4 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 13.04
5 Dutch (Dodecad) 13.4
6 Norwegian (Dodecad) 13.89
7 Polish (Dodecad) 14.85
8 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 16.15
9 English (Dodecad) 16.39
10 Kent (1000Genomes) 16.56
11 British_Isles (Dodecad) 16.96
12 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 17.02
13 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 17.7
14 Argyll (1000Genomes) 17.87
15 Orkney (1000Genomes) 17.9
16 Orcadian (HGDP) 18.51
17 Irish (Dodecad) 18.71
18 British (Dodecad) 18.95
19 Cornwall (1000Genomes) 19.16
20 French (Dodecad) 19.57

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 26.8% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.11
2 75.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 24.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.21
3 76.6% German (Dodecad) + 23.4% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.48
4 64.5% Swedish (Dodecad) + 35.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 2.56
5 62.3% Swedish (Dodecad) + 37.7% Romanians (Behar) @ 2.56
6 80.6% German (Dodecad) + 19.4% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.59
7 56.8% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 43.2% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.65
8 81% German (Dodecad) + 19% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.72
9 51.8% French (HGDP) + 48.2% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.83
10 64.9% Swedish (Dodecad) + 35.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.83
11 53.6% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) + 46.4% French (Dodecad) @ 2.88
12 78% German (Dodecad) + 22% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.9
13 61.2% Russian (Dodecad) + 38.8% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 2.95
14 64.8% Russian (Dodecad) + 35.2% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 3
15 80.7% German (Dodecad) + 19.3% Russian (Dodecad) @ 3.01
16 51.5% French (HGDP) + 48.5% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.05
17 52.6% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) + 47.4% French (Dodecad) @ 3.05
18 62.7% Russian (Dodecad) + 37.3% Spaniards (Behar) @ 3.05
19 54.3% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) + 45.7% French (HGDP) @ 3.09
20 82% German (Dodecad) + 18% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.09

CordedWhelp's Father's Dodecad K12b. Ancestry: German-American father, mother was adopted (family lore is her mother was Danish).

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 45.7
2 Atlantic_Med 33.66
3 Caucasus 9.81
4 Gedrosia 6.71
5 Southwest_Asian 2.25
6 Siberian 1.13
7 South_Asian 0.52
8 Northwest_African 0.21
9 East_Asian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 German (Dodecad) 2.82
2 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 7.01
3 Dutch (Dodecad) 7.63
4 Hungarians (Behar) 9.13
5 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 10.26
6 Kent (1000Genomes) 10.45
7 English (Dodecad) 10.47
8 British_Isles (Dodecad) 11.23
9 Norwegian (Dodecad) 12.39
10 Argyll (1000Genomes) 12.58
11 Orkney (1000Genomes) 12.71
12 French (Dodecad) 12.74
13 Swedish (Dodecad) 12.86
14 British (Dodecad) 12.95
15 Cornwall (1000Genomes) 13.01
16 Orcadian (HGDP) 13.1
17 Irish (Dodecad) 13.17
18 French (HGDP) 13.28
19 Polish (Dodecad) 20.94
20 Romanians (Behar) 21.14

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74% Norwegian (Dodecad) + 26% Greek (Dodecad) @ 0.75
2 67.6% French (HGDP) + 32.4% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.06
3 71.1% Swedish (Dodecad) + 28.9% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 1.15
4 58.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 41.2% British (Dodecad) @ 1.22
5 72.4% Swedish (Dodecad) + 27.6% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.23
6 58.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 41.1% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 1.23
7 67.9% French (Dodecad) + 32.1% Russian (Dodecad) @ 1.3
8 53.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 46.6% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 1.33
9 68.9% French (Dodecad) + 31.1% Russian_B (Behar) @ 1.33
10 77.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) + 22.8% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.34
11 67% French (HGDP) + 33% Russian (Dodecad) @ 1.37
12 68.6% Swedish (Dodecad) + 31.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.4
13 70.2% Swedish (Dodecad) + 29.8% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 1.43
14 53.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 46.5% English (Dodecad) @ 1.45
15 53% Hungarians (Behar) + 47% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.5
16 91.5% German (Dodecad) + 8.5% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 1.54
17 65.6% French (Dodecad) + 34.4% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 1.56
18 91.8% German (Dodecad) + 8.2% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 1.56
19 92.6% German (Dodecad) + 7.4% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 1.57
20 92.9% German (Dodecad) + 7.1% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 1.59

on 23andme, he scores no Ashkenazi, but does get 0.9% MENA, 0.3% of that as broadly Arab, Egyptian, Levantine.

Just a bit of Sephardic admixture, perhaps? I dunno. Also got like 4.5% "Arabia" on Vahaduo dark ages calc.

Any tips on how to flesh this out better? I've tried screwing around with Vahaduo calculations, but can't come up with anything great.

Figaro
12-14-2020, 06:45 PM
Bump

Flashball
01-04-2021, 09:30 PM
My father gets 0.6% of non-european admixture and he's totally french of the last 700 years, but he don't get that on global 25 and gedmatch (like my mother ; 0.6/7% of non-european but zero on global 25 and zero on gedmatch).