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Lozano
12-16-2020, 10:58 PM
https://i.ibb.co/4t9K8K4/91347111-10158007828151308-487719362099150848-n.jpg (https://ibb.co/qjX7N7m)

https://i.postimg.cc/fT4Zsg2Z/93259214-1865640306899719-5951965983739478016-o.jpg (https://postimg.cc/K45CrQhs)

https://i.postimg.cc/dtmMYQZm/106793237-1942457729217976-468769920401384337-o.jpg (https://postimg.cc/SJs1LhrJ)

https://i.postimg.cc/KjB64xqb/115803764-1963002947163454-6282308845851668581-o.jpg (https://postimg.cc/9wX8n5Hg)

https://i.postimg.cc/Qt2LXHqS/73-ABXPTS2-NBBXAHZH7-F6-FBFHJA.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/mgBsz1W5/93313245-1866573146806435-6855190759910408192-o.jpg (https://postimg.cc/1fCTbttG)

https://i.postimg.cc/k55Pwr4N/Luz-Marina-Zuluaga-Miss-Universe-1958.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/7LQ8WBGF/N4-TVITUJ2-BCDPDF5-PN3-YQWM4-YA.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Cristiano viejo
12-16-2020, 10:58 PM
Spanish.

Tooting Carmen
12-16-2020, 11:00 PM
Spanish.

Yes

Lozano
12-16-2020, 11:01 PM
Spanish.

Where she would best pass inside Spain by her look?

*She has a Basque surname I think.

Kivan
12-16-2020, 11:02 PM
Alpine-Med.

Hulu
12-16-2020, 11:02 PM
Euro of course.

axel.aleman
12-16-2020, 11:09 PM
Criolla

Mixdguy17
12-16-2020, 11:10 PM
Fully European look, I would have guess Spain or Italy. I agree with Alpine-Med.

Cristiano viejo
12-16-2020, 11:17 PM
Where she would best pass inside Spain by her look?

*She has a Basque surname I think.
Nerja, a village of Málaga in Andalusia.

Lozano
12-16-2020, 11:20 PM
Nerja, a village of Málaga in Andalusia.

In the south people of spain are moor-looking
this girl would look the whitest around

Mr.G
12-16-2020, 11:23 PM
My impression is Alpine-Med.

Cristiano viejo
12-16-2020, 11:26 PM
In the south people of spain are moor-looking
this girl would look the whitest around

No doubt.

Gallop
12-17-2020, 12:31 AM
https://bp2.blogger.com/_J2yDXCLnkzc/SInOOvPhGgI/AAAAAAAABWE/KSnIpgyuHRA/s400/2008-07-25_13A_265996.jpg

https://st-listas.20minutos.es/images/2013-02/354070/3895922_640px.jpg?1359760712

https://90minutos.co/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/luz-marina-zuluaga_0-1.jpg

https://m.zeleb.com.co/sites/default/files/styles/news_main_image/public/luzmarinazuluaga_fallecimiento_5.jpg?itok=sC8TsV4S


In some photos he does show his small Amerindian with SSA contribution. In the last picture it even reminds me more of one of those white Mexican beauties but with a bit of Amerindianism like Maria Felix

Full Spaniard can't be, Spain didn't have the extermination policy that England had in North America otherwise Lozano would not exist

Lozano
12-17-2020, 01:03 AM
Full Spaniard can't be, Spain didn't have the extermination policy that England had in North America otherwise Lozano would not exist

Yes it can be (although this is not the case). It is well known that many families did not mix themselves with native amerinidans and SSA admixed people but between criollo families.
In the other hand. There are mestizos of different ranges of european input, who look more spanish and white than many other native spanish. And that is bcs genotype does not always correspond with phenotype as it is well known,

Like Juanes daughters... For example. His mom is certainly a mestiza but his dad probably isn't (seeing both of Juanes his parents its just very unlikely)

https://i.postimg.cc/7ZG1DYmt/lachechi.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Luso
12-17-2020, 04:49 AM
Looks European to me, lol. Am I missing something? Alpine-Med

Celestia
12-17-2020, 05:21 AM
She looks fully Euro. Alpine-Med

Gallop
12-17-2020, 11:26 AM
Yes it can be (although this is not the case). It is well known that many families did not mix themselves with native amerinidans and SSA admixed people but between criollo families.
In the other hand. There are mestizos of different ranges of european input, who look more spanish and white than many other native spanish. And that is bcs genotype does not always correspond with phenotype as it is well known,

Like Juanes daughters... For example. His mom is certainly a mestiza but his dad probably isn't (seeing both of Juanes his parents its just very unlikely)

https://i.postimg.cc/7ZG1DYmt/lachechi.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

And probably in some families some native ancestor would be hidden or omitted, it already happened in ancient Rome and in many other times and even in Spain with that of pulling the blanket.

Lozano
12-17-2020, 11:36 AM
Any other opinions?

guyinsf
12-19-2020, 01:06 AM
She doesn't look mestiza to me, she looks European, maybe Southern European looking but still European.

Hasien
12-19-2020, 01:47 AM
https://bp2.blogger.com/_J2yDXCLnkzc/SInOOvPhGgI/AAAAAAAABWE/KSnIpgyuHRA/s400/2008-07-25_13A_265996.jpg

https://st-listas.20minutos.es/images/2013-02/354070/3895922_640px.jpg?1359760712

https://90minutos.co/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/luz-marina-zuluaga_0-1.jpg

https://m.zeleb.com.co/sites/default/files/styles/news_main_image/public/luzmarinazuluaga_fallecimiento_5.jpg?itok=sC8TsV4S


In some photos he does show his small Amerindian with SSA contribution. In the last picture it even reminds me more of one of those white Mexican beauties but with a bit of Amerindianism like Maria Felix

Full Spaniard can't be, Spain didn't have the extermination policy that England had in North America otherwise Lozano would not exist

So harsh but true, this applies literally to 99% of us Latin Americans all of us are creation of 3 colonial bloods of course our percentages /phenotypes/genotypes varies per person.

Even 1% of our blood Is Important for example I'm myself 3% black without the 3% of my DNA I would simply NOT EXIST.

Xacal
12-19-2020, 03:23 AM
Alpine-Med