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Rafael Passoni
12-24-2020, 06:25 AM
My mother's DNA results are ready today. She is the granddaughter of my supposed Syrian great-grandfather.

She is 100% European by this test. I think the DNA from Portugal city of Castelo Branco is an "alien DNA", because Italian Ancestry woudn't score it this very specific city.

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Is it possible that MyHeritage misread 1/4 of Syrian blood? They also detected the Scottish DNA.

Rafael Passoni
12-25-2020, 06:59 AM
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GEDmatch doesn't show any Syrian, and she is one of the granddaugters of the supposed Syrian.

Recap: I did MyHeritage DNA test and Ishared my results here in another thread.

I didn't scored Middle East despite my Syrian great-grandfather so I tought my great-grandmother had an extramarital relationship and it can explain it. Then I have a DNA result that is 1 generation closer than my result.

Rafael Passoni
12-25-2020, 08:03 AM
What do I want? She has her DNA Matches in MyHeritage website account, so she can send messages to her matchs asking about her grandparents, great-grandparents and so on. But I don't know if he was Syrian or Portuguese, so know it can help her to make questions.

CommonSense
12-26-2020, 02:24 PM
Seems almost impossible for her to be 1/4 Syrian with those gemdatch results. What's the rest of her ancestry?

Rafael Passoni
12-26-2020, 03:54 PM
She has 3 grandparents from Italy and one Syrian, maybe Syro-French. Extramarital relationship?

Rafael Passoni
12-28-2020, 01:57 AM
How can I do a Eurogenes K36 map for my mom?

paradox
12-28-2020, 06:09 AM
How can I do a Eurogenes K36 map for my mom?
https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm

Fill this in with your mother's k36 results then press valider.

Rafael Passoni
12-28-2020, 06:26 AM
Thank you very much :wink

Rafael Passoni
12-28-2020, 07:46 AM
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I got it! ha,ha,ha

My mother's K36 map :rolleyes:

Rafael Passoni
01-05-2021, 08:15 AM
I tested Vahaduo, and I think I have more Syrian than my mom, but she is closer to my half Syrian/half French great-grandparent than me. :confused:

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Why?
Our results are:
rafael,30.31,9.34,25.81,7.08,22.58,4.45,0,0,0,0,0. 37,0.07,0
mom,29.37,14.96,22.54,4.57,24.35,3.18,0,0.54,0,0.4 9,0,0,0

Rafael Passoni
01-19-2021, 06:27 AM
Hi Guys,
I'm trying to find my “phantom” ancestor (implying that he exist) yet. My Grandmother was a children of an extramarital relationship, so my Great-grandfather didn't want to take on the responsibility of being a father. So I did my DNA test and my mom one. MyHeritage shows she isn't Syrian (Her mom told her her grandfather was half Syrian/ half French).
Instead, they inform she has got Portuguese from Castelo Branco ancestry. Since her other 3 great-grandparents are from Sicily, Bergamo and Venetto, this very specific Portuguese ancestry is an "alien" take into acount what she knows about her Grandparents.

https://i.imgur.com/8EPQKiM.png

So I look forward other calculators and there are two particular calculators on the GedMatch that I have found to help identify the trace Amerindian ancestry:

Eurogenes K36
MDLP World-22

My mother’s results showed 0% Native American and about 0% East Asian, which can sometimes mean Native American ancestry, in Eurogenes K36:

https://i.imgur.com/IhrZidY.png

But MDLP world 22 find a bit of Native American ancestry.

https://i.imgur.com/MnWNe6j.png

My K36 results shows 0% Native American and East Asian too:

https://i.imgur.com/3QRmcSm.png

But my MDLP world 22 shows about half her South American Amerind (0.2%)

https://i.imgur.com/LCQDPLl.png

Is that possible to predict my phantom great-grandfather's ancestry? Is that possible he is full Portugese or an mixed one (Brazilian)? Is that possible he is the Syro-French one? She didn't have got any matches in Portugal or Syria in MyHeritage.

Since all of her ancestors contributed to make her who she is, she felt it was important to be as thorough as possible in her research, and DNA test give us a light.

Leto
01-19-2021, 07:45 AM
Don't pay attention to that Amerindian noise, your mom is likely fully European. I can't tell if she's part Syrian or not.

Rafael Passoni
01-19-2021, 08:08 AM
Thank you, Leto. It's horrible I don't know one ancestor. This test led me sad. No Syrian... Doing such tests we can discovery that our ancestors lied. If I had know at least his ethnicity, I would be able to make questions properly her DNA matchs. It's sad. At the end, this DNA test showed I dont't know one part of me.

Rafael Passoni
01-19-2021, 08:29 AM
No, I didn't know 24 Genetics. I will try it today and post it here. Thank you, Peterski.

I need to know my ancestry to make questions. In southern Brazil it's a very reliable information, because Europeans occupied this region, so, almost all people self identify as their European Ancestry there. They usually refer to their as Polish, German, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese and so on. So I can make questions such as "Do you have a Portuguese grandfather?". It's easy to find someone. But in my case, my grandmother was a hidden child, so, nobody knows she exists. It's hard. They would denny it or they would be shocked because it would affect their family reputation.

Rafael Passoni
01-25-2021, 06:44 AM
My Mother's results from DNA Land:

https://i.imgur.com/imWchlt.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/djn0lM7.png

My Results:

https://i.imgur.com/OoBfPvo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/JAdZR2c.png

I don't know if DNA Land is Accurate. My mother's aunt tell me he was Turkish instead Syrian.

Rafael Passoni
07-20-2021, 08:15 AM
She take a new DNA test from a company of FTDNA:
https://i.imgur.com/2wOlTcy.png
Now, 7% of Jew blood:
https://i.imgur.com/kK7dQwA.png
And her (and probably mine too) mtdna:
https://i.imgur.com/ztUS9Ft.png
Now I think it's compatible with a half Syrian/Half French grandpa.
Can I run deeper her MTDNA (and so mine) in another website? What do "U" means?

Peterski
07-20-2021, 08:54 AM
Your mother seems to be a mix of North Italian and Central Italian with some extra Greek / Albanian.