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gixajo
12-25-2020, 03:11 PM
Idea of Slav references stolen from Stearsolina.(I say this out of fear of her reaction if she doesn´t like the model)

https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/

Scaled.


EastSlavs,0.13110431,0.11763734,0.07341818,0.06478 55,0.03671159,0.02370792,0.01006237,0.01250553,-0.00191971,-0.02423996,-0.00119792,-0.00848045,0.01755289,0.02307776,-0.01113138,-0.00234733,0.00157707,-0.00040321,0.00227575,0.00061325,-0.00318826,-0.00403915,0.0065158,-0.00489765,0.00012783
WestSlavs,0.13083253,0.13257583,0.06393263,0.05186 387,0.04355847,0.02004737,0.00813137,0.00917937,-0.00021513,-0.0125844,-0.00190447,-0.0047957,0.00966743,0.01336493,-0.00527303,0.00378063,0.00692237,-0.0020336,0.00534577,0.00037327,-0.00278487,-0.0032607,0.00628747,0.00046673,0.00029943
SouthSlavs:B,0.128658,0.13465917,0.05101183,0.0300 4977,0.033996,0.0116855,0.00579677,0.00630737,0.00 084527,-0.00407607,-0.00130447,-0.00248283,0.00417243,0.01473943,-0.00926957,-0.00113143,0.0032118,0.00002097,0.0048185,0.000375 17,-0.0047584,-0.00288527,0.00444933,-0.00061453,0.0002434
SouthSlavs:A,0.1250545,0.13971905,0.0305778,0.0076 3193,0.027001,0.00155333,0.00554245,0.00476,0.0001 2598,0.00465423,-0.00395945,-0.000665,0.00005795,0.00793225,-0.01335348,-0.0002289,0.007342,-0.0004797,0.00419898,-0.00401335,-0.00700175,-0.00016293,0.00604213,0.00054485,-0.00237048
Greek:Crete+Dodecanese,0.1070315,0.145769,-0.0193374,-0.0508842,0.0045435,-0.0168057,0.0030456,-0.0030695,-0.0026649,0.0147648,0.0034242,0.0017514,-0.0031743,0.0016794,-0.0119076,-0.0016904,0.0041787,0.0029881,0.0048445,-0.0047811,-0.0043396,-0.000064,0.0005811,0.000451,-0.0025359
Turkic,0.08279575,-0.04872655,-0.00773435,-0.00521585,-0.04090210,-0.00345510,0.00827315,0.00604885,-0.01586195,-0.01025075,-0.00767745,-0.00170265,0.00110940,-0.00557500,0.00308635,0.00607450,-0.00259560,0.00098765,-0.00011860,-0.00280345,-0.00721875,-0.00283710,-0.00430805,-0.00055895,0.00290500
German:B,0.12850750,0.13434200,0.05953750,0.042428 00,0.04023600,0.01613500,0.00530550,0.00693350,0.0 0355100,0.00110350,-0.00542900,0.00348000,-0.00703950,-0.00569200,0.01297850,0.00431800,-0.00574350,0.00146500,0.00381850,0.00226650,0.0039 1550,0.00243600,0.00017000,0.01182950,-0.00010750
Caucasus:Armenian,0.10509315,0.13768585,-0.05823490,-0.06060000,-0.03175850,-0.01561800,0.00589615,-0.00656435,-0.03826240,-0.00506190,0.00201840,0.00339870,-0.00773695,0.00172020,-0.00649520,-0.00460265,0.00474855,0.00030305,0.00022010,0.0008 9650,0.00294790,0.00317855,-0.00264765,-0.00425920,0.00036025
Caucasus:Georgian,0.10835960,0.13506550,-0.05811440,-0.05122780,-0.03449870,-0.00872940,0.01015250,-0.00519230,-0.05675520,-0.01525330,0.00121790,0.01150970,-0.02157060,0.00567000,-0.00108580,-0.02031270,0.00988310,-0.00392740,-0.00624710,0.01288120,0.00893410,0.00169400,-0.00067780,-0.00788050,-0.00144900

You can try also this different version:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?339287-Version-2-Slav-amp-Balkan-G25-Scaled-model-(customized-references)&p=7050414#post7050414

Luke35
12-25-2020, 03:26 PM
Target: Mr.G_scaled
Distance: 1.1801% / 0.01180097
64.2 German:B
25.4 SouthSlavs:A
4.2 SouthSlavs:B
3.4 Turkic
2.8 WestSlavs

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G25 Hungarian modern pop avg:

Target: Hungarian
Distance: 0.5634% / 0.00563363
30.0 German:B
24.8 EastSlavs
23.2 SouthSlavs:A
21.4 SouthSlavs:B
0.6 Turkic

gixajo
12-25-2020, 03:33 PM
Target: Mr.G_scaled
ic

Opinion?

Luke35
12-25-2020, 03:58 PM
Opinion?

Looks like a solid result for me, this is in the ballpark of how I usually score. What German reference is this in your source?

It's worth pointing out that the G25 modern pop average for German has some Slavic built into it, and the Hungarian average has some German.

MandM
12-25-2020, 04:06 PM
Dont get my Turic, but all and all lookd good

Distance to: Milenko
0.01859090 SouthSlavs:A
0.03389236 SouthSlavs:B
0.06020689 WestSlavs
0.06128818 German:B
0.08137265 EastSlavs
0.09630665 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese
0.14414028 Caucasus:Armenian
0.15106127 Caucasus:Georgian
0.20785036 Turkic

Target: Milenko
Distance: 1.6281% / 0.01628078 | ADC: 0.5x RC
89.8 SouthSlavs
10.2 EastSlavs

Target: Milenko
Distance: 1.5664% / 0.01566380 | ADC: 0.25x RC
85.0 SouthSlavs
10.0 WestSlavs
2.6 EastSlavs
2.4 Turkic

Target: Milenko
Distance: 1.5662% / 0.01566192
84.4 SouthSlavs
11.6 WestSlavs
2.6 Turkic
1.4 EastSlavs

gixajo
12-25-2020, 04:07 PM
Looks like a solid result for me, this is in the ballpark of how I usually score. What German reference is this in your source?

It's worth pointing out that the G25 modern pop average for German has some Slavic built into it, and the Hungarian average has some German.

German+Dutch

Yeah, and Czech reference has some German too and it´s included in West Slavs, but modern references are just labels, not pure ethnicities.

It´s simply one model, and not any proof of anything as always with this type of models.

Luke35
12-25-2020, 04:24 PM
Here is the result for my father's theoretical coordinates, the ones Kaspias calculated (and ph2ter confirmed).

Target: Mr.G_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.0776% / 0.02077609
35.2 WestSlavs
31.2 SouthSlavs:A
23.2 German:B
10.4 Turkic

Roman-Anatolian
12-25-2020, 05:00 PM
I don't know why I'm getting south slavic, normally I shouldn't

Target: Roman-Anatolian_scaled
Distance: 2.8117% / 0.02811686
54.4 Caucasus
25.2 Greek
17.0 SouthSlavs
3.4 EastSlavs

If I put out south slavic

Target: Roman-Anatolian_scaled
Distance: 2.8191% / 0.02819091
49.4 Caucasus
36.4 Greek
14.2 EastSlavs

but anyways the fit doesn't seem to be good. It should be around 1.5-2.0 to be considered good.

gixajo
12-25-2020, 05:22 PM
A different version:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?339287-Version-2-Slav-amp-Balkan-G25-Scaled-model-(customized-references)&p=7050414#post7050414

Chris596
12-25-2020, 05:43 PM
This is pretty amazing, very similar to my 23andme result, only that 23andme thinks I don't have West Asian and Turkic ancestry for some reason :noidea:

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 2.1653% / 0.02165297
70.0 SouthSlavs
18.8 EastSlavs
6.6 WestSlavs
3.6 Turkic
1.0 Caucasus

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 2.1668% / 0.02166775 | ADC: 0.25x RC
72.6 SouthSlavs
19.6 EastSlavs
4.0 WestSlavs
3.8 Turkic

Distance to: Chris_scaled
0.02914842 SouthSlavs:B
0.03074000 SouthSlavs:A
0.05368595 WestSlavs
0.05824171 German:B
0.07200798 EastSlavs
0.10643219 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese
0.15245865 Caucasus:Armenian
0.15717206 Caucasus:Georgian
0.20504460 Turkic

Kyp
12-25-2020, 05:58 PM
Very nice & simple calculator:thumb001:

Target: Kyp_scaled
Distance: 3.2071% / 0.03207103
36.2 Caucasus
32.4 German
15.4 EastSlavs
15.2 Turkic
0.8 Greek

Target: KypFather_scaled
Distance: 2.8895% / 0.02889454
62.2 Caucasus
33.8 Turkic
4.0 EastSlavs

Target: MotherKyp_scaled
Distance: 1.4366% / 0.01436628
78.6 German
15.2 WestSlavs
3.6 Greek
2.6 SouthSlavs

Impaler
12-25-2020, 06:22 PM
Target: Impaler_scaled
Distance: 2.3720
30.2 Greek
23.8 SouthSlavs
18.6 German
15.0 Turkic
10.8 WestSlavs
1.6 Caucasus

Distance to: Impaler_scaled
0.04626161 SouthSlavs:A
0.06683825 SouthSlavs:B
0.07887443 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese
0.08221605 German:B
0.09117379 WestSlavs
0.10770039 EastSlavs
0.12016445 Caucasus:Armenian
0.13016005 Caucasus:Georgian
0.17720477 Turkic

17571imre
12-25-2020, 09:07 PM
mother
Distance: 2.1729% / 0.02172897
Target: cb_scaled
55.9 WestSlavs
30.3 SouthSlavs
7.6 Turkic
6.2 German

me
Distance: 1.3606% / 0.01360648
Target: mh_scaled
63.8 SouthSlavs
25.2 German
10.7 WestSlavs
0.3 Turkic

nice! thankyou Gixajo

Grace O'Malley
12-25-2020, 09:41 PM
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 2.7739% / 0.02773936
100.0 German

Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.02773936 German:B
0.05838926 WestSlavs
0.06374274 SouthSlavs:B
0.07722934 EastSlavs
0.08399071 SouthSlavs:A
0.15567596 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese
0.19707774 Caucasus:Armenian
0.19841320 Caucasus:Georgian
0.23293251 Turkic

alnortedelsur
12-25-2020, 10:41 PM
I'm not Balkan, but lets do it just for fun xD

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 7.2128% / 0.07212768
46.2 German
39.8 Greek
14.0 Turkic

Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.08852621 SouthSlavs:A
0.10017791 SouthSlavs:B
0.10340929 German:B
0.10520507 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese
0.12080286 WestSlavs
0.13610462 EastSlavs
0.15124780 Caucasus:Armenian
0.16201430 Caucasus:Georgian
0.19197736 Turkic

alnortedelsur
12-25-2020, 10:46 PM
Second Version:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 7.2086% / 0.07208563
48.4 German
37.4 Greek
14.2 Turkic

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 7.2190% / 0.07218963 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.0 German
39.6 Greek
14.4 Turkic

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 7.2190% / 0.07218963 | ADC: 0.5x RC
46.0 German
39.6 Greek
14.4 Turkic


Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.10399635 German:(German+Austrian)+(German+Dutch)+Danish
0.10520507 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese
0.11129938 Greek:(Kos+Crete+Cyprus)
0.12845635 Slav:Polish+Ukrainian
0.13829990 Slav:Russian_Kostroma+Russian_Kursk+Russian_Orel+R ussian_Pinega+Russian_Smolensk+Russian_Tver+Russia n_Voronez
0.15124780 Caucasus:Armenian
0.16170434 Baltic:Latvian+Estonian
0.16201430 Caucasus:Georgian
0.19197736 Turkic:Turkmen+Turkmen_Uzbekistan

gixajo
12-25-2020, 10:58 PM
I didn´t check it :

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 5.2117% / 0.05211686
68.4 German
31.6 Greek

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 5.6626% / 0.05662640
56.8 German
43.2 Greek

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 5.3623% / 0.05362314
75.6 German
24.4 Greek

No Slav...:picard1:

And in the other calculator...

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 5.2847% / 0.05284669
69.0 German
31.0 Greek

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 5.7161% / 0.05716142
56.6 German
43.4 Greek

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 5.4306% / 0.05430601
75.2 German
24.8 Greek

:eek:

calxpal
12-25-2020, 11:17 PM
Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 2.6921% / 0.02692100
62.4 German:B
21.0 SouthSlavs:A
15.2 WestSlavs
1.4 Turkic

Distance to: cpalscaled
0.03204673 German:B
0.04041153 SouthSlavs:B
0.04476337 WestSlavs
0.05459381 SouthSlavs:A
0.07064859 EastSlavs
0.13038095 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese
0.17647824 Caucasus:Armenian
0.18109193 Caucasus:Georgian
0.21932585 Turkic

Seems quite good :)

paradox
12-26-2020, 02:01 AM
Distanceto:scaled
0.03394689 SouthSlavs:A
0.05834437 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese
0.06610365 SouthSlavs:B
0.09030033 German:B
0.09577588 WestSlavs
0.11011958 Caucasus:Armenian
0.11533018 EastSlavs
0.12391025 Caucasus:Georgian
0.20356122 Turkic

Target: scaled
Distance: 1.4236% / 0.01423592
46.0 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese
40.0 SouthSlavs:A
13.0 EastSlavs
0.6 Turkic
0.4 Caucasus:Armenian
____________________

Distanceto:Father_scaled
0.02502988 SouthSlavs:A
0.04338321 SouthSlavs:B
0.06820140 German:B
0.07278028 WestSlavs
0.08661090 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese
0.09163581 EastSlavs
0.13748642 Caucasus:Armenian
0.14781379 Caucasus:Georgian
0.21059494 Turkic

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.2514% / 0.02251366
67.6 SouthSlavs:B
30.0 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese
2.4 SouthSlavs:A

What are the population references for South Slavs A and B?

oszkar07
12-26-2020, 11:27 AM
Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.5337% / 0.02533697 | ADC: 0.25x RC
56.6 German:B
35.4 SouthSlavs:B
8.0 EastSlavs


Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.5337% / 0.02533697
56.6 German:B
35.4 SouthSlavs:B
8.0 EastSlavs


Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.5337% / 0.02533697 | ADC: 0.5x RC
56.6 German:B
35.4 SouthSlavs:B
8.0 EastSlavs


Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.5711% / 0.02571083 | ADC: 1x RC
57.2 German:B
42.8 SouthSlavs:B

Lucas
12-26-2020, 11:28 PM
Target: Lukasz_scaled
Distance: 3.0919% / 0.03091937
88.8 EastSlavs
11.2 SouthSlavs

Gallop
12-27-2020, 12:45 AM
Distance: 5.5458% / 0.05545802
Target: Gallop_scaled
64.4 German
35.6 Greek

Distance: 5.6137% / 0.05613711
Target: Gallop_scaled | ADC: 0.5x
63.6 German
29.3 Greek
7.1 SouthSlavs

Distance: 6.3632% / 0.06363171
Target: Gallop_scaled | ADC: 1x
73.8 SouthSlavs
26.2 German

Distance: 6.7590% / 0.06758991
Target: Gallop_scaled | ADC: 2x
100.0 SouthSlavs


Distance to: Gallop_scaled
0.06758991 SouthSlavs:A
0.07433821 German:B
0.07929179 SouthSlavs:B
0.09897268 WestSlavs
0.10545818 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese
0.12280329 astSlavs
0.16199085 Caucasus:Armenian
0.17092917 Caucasus:Georgian
0.22854160 Turkic

Dušan
08-20-2023, 09:25 AM
Idea of Slav references stolen from Stearsolina.(I say this out of fear of her reaction if she doesn´t like the model)

https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/

Scaled.


EastSlavs,0.13110431,0.11763734,0.07341818,0.06478 55,0.03671159,0.02370792,0.01006237,0.01250553,-0.00191971,-0.02423996,-0.00119792,-0.00848045,0.01755289,0.02307776,-0.01113138,-0.00234733,0.00157707,-0.00040321,0.00227575,0.00061325,-0.00318826,-0.00403915,0.0065158,-0.00489765,0.00012783
WestSlavs,0.13083253,0.13257583,0.06393263,0.05186 387,0.04355847,0.02004737,0.00813137,0.00917937,-0.00021513,-0.0125844,-0.00190447,-0.0047957,0.00966743,0.01336493,-0.00527303,0.00378063,0.00692237,-0.0020336,0.00534577,0.00037327,-0.00278487,-0.0032607,0.00628747,0.00046673,0.00029943
SouthSlavs:B,0.128658,0.13465917,0.05101183,0.0300 4977,0.033996,0.0116855,0.00579677,0.00630737,0.00 084527,-0.00407607,-0.00130447,-0.00248283,0.00417243,0.01473943,-0.00926957,-0.00113143,0.0032118,0.00002097,0.0048185,0.000375 17,-0.0047584,-0.00288527,0.00444933,-0.00061453,0.0002434
SouthSlavs:A,0.1250545,0.13971905,0.0305778,0.0076 3193,0.027001,0.00155333,0.00554245,0.00476,0.0001 2598,0.00465423,-0.00395945,-0.000665,0.00005795,0.00793225,-0.01335348,-0.0002289,0.007342,-0.0004797,0.00419898,-0.00401335,-0.00700175,-0.00016293,0.00604213,0.00054485,-0.00237048
Greek:Crete+Dodecanese,0.1070315,0.145769,-0.0193374,-0.0508842,0.0045435,-0.0168057,0.0030456,-0.0030695,-0.0026649,0.0147648,0.0034242,0.0017514,-0.0031743,0.0016794,-0.0119076,-0.0016904,0.0041787,0.0029881,0.0048445,-0.0047811,-0.0043396,-0.000064,0.0005811,0.000451,-0.0025359
Turkic,0.08279575,-0.04872655,-0.00773435,-0.00521585,-0.04090210,-0.00345510,0.00827315,0.00604885,-0.01586195,-0.01025075,-0.00767745,-0.00170265,0.00110940,-0.00557500,0.00308635,0.00607450,-0.00259560,0.00098765,-0.00011860,-0.00280345,-0.00721875,-0.00283710,-0.00430805,-0.00055895,0.00290500
German:B,0.12850750,0.13434200,0.05953750,0.042428 00,0.04023600,0.01613500,0.00530550,0.00693350,0.0 0355100,0.00110350,-0.00542900,0.00348000,-0.00703950,-0.00569200,0.01297850,0.00431800,-0.00574350,0.00146500,0.00381850,0.00226650,0.0039 1550,0.00243600,0.00017000,0.01182950,-0.00010750
Caucasus:Armenian,0.10509315,0.13768585,-0.05823490,-0.06060000,-0.03175850,-0.01561800,0.00589615,-0.00656435,-0.03826240,-0.00506190,0.00201840,0.00339870,-0.00773695,0.00172020,-0.00649520,-0.00460265,0.00474855,0.00030305,0.00022010,0.0008 9650,0.00294790,0.00317855,-0.00264765,-0.00425920,0.00036025
Caucasus:Georgian,0.10835960,0.13506550,-0.05811440,-0.05122780,-0.03449870,-0.00872940,0.01015250,-0.00519230,-0.05675520,-0.01525330,0.00121790,0.01150970,-0.02157060,0.00567000,-0.00108580,-0.02031270,0.00988310,-0.00392740,-0.00624710,0.01288120,0.00893410,0.00169400,-0.00067780,-0.00788050,-0.00144900

You can try also this different version:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?339287-Version-2-Slav-amp-Balkan-G25-Scaled-model-(customized-references)&p=7050414#post7050414

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.6154% / 0.02615377
81.6 SouthSlavs
14.4 EastSlavs
4.0 Greek



Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.6154% / 0.02615377
51.0 SouthSlavs:B
30.6 SouthSlavs:A
14.4 EastSlavs
4.0 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese

noricum
08-26-2023, 09:34 AM
Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.4661% / 0.02466110
57.0 SouthSlavs:B
29.8 German:B
13.2 EastSlavs