Version 2 Slav&Balkan G25 Scaled model (customized references).

[gixajo]

Since I'm on the subject, I make a different version with different references.

Even with more indisputably Slavic references, Balkanites tend to score quite high on that component.

Scaled

https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/



Baltic:Latvian+Estonian,0.13419740,0.11830925,0.08 826510,0.08638635,0.04299255,0.03189105,0.01198555 ,0.01426095,-0.00087945,-0.03266560,-0.00175390,-0.01308335,0.02134025,0.02636855,-0.00861145,0.00288380,0.00146670,-0.00143170,0.00147695,0.00325795,-0.00070510,-0.00379000,0.00666760,-0.00428965,0.00284405
Slav:Russian_Kostroma+Russian_Kursk+Russian_Orel+R ussian_Pinega+Russian_Smolensk+Russian_Tver+Russia n_Voronez,0.13012314,0.10520141,0.07688203,0.06720 569,0.03221497,0.02326107,0.0106899,0.01288679,-0.00259543,-0.02701829,0.00073463,-0.00857006,0.01797647,0.02036957,-0.01089404,-0.00214459,0.0010056,-0.00088284,0.00008864,0.00118996,-0.00083169,-0.00403036,0.00508519,-0.00377504,-0.0010328
Slav:Polish+Ukrainian,0.13138390,0.12667805,0.0691 0955,0.05764665,0.03918105,0.02150315,0.00872160,0 .01108490,-0.00191195,-0.01982615,-0.00299075,-0.00703905,0.01422465,0.02013115,-0.00912990,-0.00082800,0.00311790,-0.00038630,0.00264685,0.00149370,-0.00381375,-0.00329875,0.00617250,-0.00369530,0.00031705
Greek:Crete+Dodecanese,0.1070315,0.145769,-0.0193374,-0.0508842,0.0045435,-0.0168057,0.0030456,-0.0030695,-0.0026649,0.0147648,0.0034242,0.0017514,-0.0031743,0.0016794,-0.0119076,-0.0016904,0.0041787,0.0029881,0.0048445,-0.0047811,-0.0043396,-0.000064,0.0005811,0.000451,-0.0025359
Greek:(Kos+Crete+Cyprus),0.1048203,0.1465117,-0.0255753,-0.0569177,0.0009550,-0.0193047,0.0015693,-0.0032507,-0.0020087,0.0145327,0.0028283,0.0019253,-0.0007763,0.0023927,-0.0104930,0.0000057,0.0046343,0.0009463,0.0033397,-0.0034800,-0.0037850,0.0014120,-0.0012133,-0.0002780,-0.0020473
Turkic:Turkmen+Turkmen_Uzbekistan,0.08279575,-0.04872655,-0.00773435,-0.00521585,-0.04090210,-0.00345510,0.00827315,0.00604885,-0.01586195,-0.01025075,-0.00767745,-0.00170265,0.00110940,-0.00557500,0.00308635,0.00607450,-0.00259560,0.00098765,-0.00011860,-0.00280345,-0.00721875,-0.00283710,-0.00430805,-0.00055895,0.00290500
Caucasus:Armenian,0.10509315,0.13768585,-0.05823490,-0.06060000,-0.03175850,-0.01561800,0.00589615,-0.00656435,-0.03826240,-0.00506190,0.00201840,0.00339870,-0.00773695,0.00172020,-0.00649520,-0.00460265,0.00474855,0.00030305,0.00022010,0.0008 9650,0.00294790,0.00317855,-0.00264765,-0.00425920,0.00036025
Caucasus:Georgian,0.10835960,0.13506550,-0.05811440,-0.05122780,-0.03449870,-0.00872940,0.01015250,-0.00519230,-0.05675520,-0.01525330,0.00121790,0.01150970,-0.02157060,0.00567000,-0.00108580,-0.02031270,0.00988310,-0.00392740,-0.00624710,0.01288120,0.00893410,0.00169400,-0.00067780,-0.00788050,-0.00144900
German:(German+Austrian)+(German+Dutch)+Danish,0.1 289344,0.1357078,0.0603224,0.0423883,0.0405959,0.0 159371,0.0049829,0.0069123,0.0029586,-0.0001960,-0.0049236,0.0023483,-0.0059103,-0.0027398,0.0128747,0.0032117,-0.0060303,0.0011715,0.0045635,0.0024531,0.0025994, 0.0009924,0.0008806,0.0108822,0.0016553


I add in every reference label how it is made of.

Here a a link to the other Balkan calculator I did today: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?339275-G25-Scaled-Small-Slav-amp-Balkan-calculator(customized-references)&p=7050266#post7050266

[MandM]

Target: Milenko
Distance: 2.2637% / 0.02263674 | ADC: 0.5x RC
51.2 Slav
40.0 Greek
8.8 German

Target: Milenko
Distance: 2.2637% / 0.02263674 | ADC: 0.25x RC
51.2 Slav
40.0 Greek
8.8 German

Target: Milenko
Distance: 2.2637% / 0.02263674
51.2 Slav
40.0 Greek
8.8 German

Distance to: Milenko
0.06049256 German:(German+Austrian)+(German+Dutch)+Danish
0.07019032 Slav:Polish+Ukrainian
0.08806087 Slav:Russian_Kostroma+Russian_Kursk+Russian_Orel+R ussian_Pinega+Russian_Smolensk+Russian_Tver+Russia n_Voronez
0.09630665 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese
0.11077677 Baltic:Latvian+Estonian
0.14414028 Caucasus:Armenian
0.15106127 Caucasus:Georgian
0.20785036 Turkic:Turkmen+Turkmen_Uzbekistan

[Roman-Anatolian]

Target: Roman-Anatolian_scaled
Distance: 2.8246% / 0.02824588
51.2 Caucasus
33.2 Greek
15.6 Slav

[Thracian]

Previous Version


Target: Thracian_scaled
Distance: 1.9635% / 0.01963522 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.0 SouthSlavs
18.8 Greek
13.6 Caucasus
13.6 Turkic
13.0 German

Target: Thracian_scaled
Distance: 2.0577% / 0.02057652 | ADC: 0.25x
59.0 SouthSlavs
16.8 Greek
13.0 Turkic
10.2 Caucasus
1.0 German

Target: Thracian_scaled
Distance: 1.9015% / 0.01901487
37.8 Greek
24.8 WestSlavs
13.2 Turkic
11.0 Caucasus
7.8 German
5.4 SouthSlavs


New one


Distance: 2.0438% / 0.02043830
Target: Thracian_scaled | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.5 Greek
17.8 Slav
16.8 German
13.0 Turkic
8.9 Caucasus

Distance: 2.0994% / 0.02099438
Target: Thracian_scaled | ADC: 0.25x
52.7 Greek
16.3 Slav
16.1 German
12.5 Turkic
2.4 Caucasus

Distance: 1.9851% / 0.01985068
Target: Thracian_scaled
47.3 Greek
18.8 German
14.8 Baltic
12.6 Turkic
6.5 Caucasus

[Abriekman]

Distance: 1.8580% / 0.01858044
Target: Abriekman_scaled
76.7 Slav:Polish+Ukrainian
10.8 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese
9.7 Slav:Russian_Kostroma+Russian_Kursk+Russian_Orel+R ussian_Pinega+Russian_Smolensk+Russian_Tver+Russia n_Voronez
2.8 Caucasus:Armenian


Very accurate split, 75% West Slavic, 12,5% Russian and 12,5% Southern

[gixajo]

...E]

It´s your Turkic and Caucasus score (more or less) accurate in your opinion?

I have not added any Anatolian or Turkish proper reference knowingly, to avoid interference with other components.

[Impaler]

Target: Impaler_scaled
Distance: 2.4593
43.6 Greek
28.0 German
14.4 Turkic
8.2 Slav
5.8 Baltic

Distance to: Impaler_scaled
0.07887443 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese
0.08277572 German: (German+Austrian)+(German+Dutch)+Danish
0.08681082 Greek: (Kos+Crete+Cyprus)
0.09942654 Slav: Polish+Ukrainian
0.11088270 Slav:Russian_Kostroma+Russian_Kursk+Russian_Orel+R ussian_Pinega+Russian_Smolensk+Russian_Tver+Russia n_Voronez
0.12016445 Caucasus:Armenian
0.13016005 Caucasus:Georgian
0.13670573 Baltic:Latvian+Estonian
0.17720477 Turkic:Turkmen+Turkmen_Uzbekistan

[Thracian]

It´s your Turkic and Caucasus score (more or less) accurate in your opinion?

I have not added any Anatolian or Turkish proper reference knowingly, to avoid interference with other components.

I usually get 15-20% Turkic -not Turkic but combined such as Turkic+Iranic-. In this one, my Iranic -or Iranic like ancestry- shifted to Caucasian but the ratio is still more or less the same.

[Gaditanian]

Distance: 5.9827% / 0.05982692

52.5 German
47.1 Greek
0.4 Turkic

No slavs? :cry

[Luso]

Target: Luso_scaled
Distance: 5.8326% / 0.05832597
58.4 German
41.6 Greek

[alnortedelsur]

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 7.2086% / 0.07208563
48.4 German
37.4 Greek
14.2 Turkic

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 7.2190% / 0.07218963 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.0 German
39.6 Greek
14.4 Turkic

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 7.2190% / 0.07218963 | ADC: 0.5x RC
46.0 German
39.6 Greek
14.4 Turkic


Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.10399635 German:(German+Austrian)+(German+Dutch)+Danish
0.10520507 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese
0.11129938 Greek:(Kos+Crete+Cyprus)
0.12845635 Slav:Polish+Ukrainian
0.13829990 Slav:Russian_Kostroma+Russian_Kursk+Russian_Orel+R ussian_Pinega+Russian_Smolensk+Russian_Tver+Russia n_Voronez
0.15124780 Caucasus:Armenian
0.16170434 Baltic:Latvian+Estonian
0.16201430 Caucasus:Georgian
0.19197736 Turkic:Turkmen+Turkmen_Uzbekistan

[gixajo]

No Slav...:picard1:

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 5.2847% / 0.05284669
69.0 German
31.0 Greek

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 5.7161% / 0.05716142
56.6 German
43.4 Greek

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 5.4306% / 0.05430601
75.2 German
24.8 Greek

[Luso]

No Slav...:picard1:

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 5.2847% / 0.05284669
69.0 German
31.0 Greek

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 5.7161% / 0.05716142
56.6 German
43.4 Greek

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 5.4306% / 0.05430601
75.2 German
24.8 Greek


Your Basque ancestors were the ones who brought your y-dna to slavs for the first time :cool:

[Luso]

repeat

[gixajo]

Your Basque ancestors were the ones who brought your y-dna to slavs for the first time :cool:

I doubt it, considering that my Ydna comes from my Andalusian side.:D

[calxpal]

Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 2.9448% / 0.02944818
79.4 German
9.2 Greek
7.4 Slav
2.8 Baltic
1.2 Turkic


Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 2.9487% / 0.02948729
79.6 German:(German+Austrian)+(German+Dutch)+Danish
10.4 Greek:(Kos+Crete+Cyprus)
8.0 Slav:Russian_Kostroma+Russian_Kursk+Russian_Orel+R ussian_Pinega+Russian_Smolensk+Russian_Tver+Russia n_Voronez
2.0 Baltic:Latvian+Estonian

Distance to: cpalscaled
0.03277861 German:(German+Austrian)+(German+Dutch)+Danish
0.05937523 Slav:Polish+Ukrainian
0.07583276 Slav:Russian_Kostroma+Russian_Kursk+Russian_Orel+R ussian_Pinega+Russian_Smolensk+Russian_Tver+Russia n_Voronez
0.09251434 Baltic:Latvian+Estonian
0.13038095 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese
0.13934754 Greek:(Kos+Crete+Cyprus)
0.17647824 Caucasus:Armenian
0.18109193 Caucasus:Georgian
0.21932585 Turkic:Turkmen+Turkmen_Uzbekistan

[altaic]

It´s your Turkic and Caucasus score (more or less) accurate in your opinion?

I have not added any Anatolian or Turkish proper reference knowingly, to avoid interference with other components.

My Turkic is always little higher than Thracian so the calculation make sense in that perspective.

Target: Altaic_scaled
Distance: 1.7104%
66.6 Caucasus
15.8 Turkic
10.2 Greek
7.4 Baltic

[gixajo]

My Turkic is always little higher than Thracian so the calculation make sense in that perspective.

tic
Which is your main Caucasus component? Georgian or Armenian?(change aggregate option to see it)

[Impaler]

My hypothetical father's results:

Target: Father
Distance: 4.8624% / 0.04862354
32.8 German
28.0 Turkic
26.6 Greek
12.6 Caucasus

[altaic]

Which is your main Caucasus component? Georgian or Armenian?(change aggregate option to see it)

Target: Altaic_scaled
Distance: 2.0730% | ADC: 1x RC
57.2 Caucasus:Armenian
24.2 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese
18.6 Turkic:Turkmen+Turkmen_Uzbekistan

Correlates with ancient one;
%17.3 Hun_TianShan + 35.8% Roman_Anatolian_Imperial + %46.9 Mannaean @ 1,651

[oszkar07]

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.5553% / 0.02555260 | ADC: 0.25x RC
69.0 German:(German+Austrian)+(German+Dutch)+Danish
24.8 Slav:Polish+Ukrainian
6.2 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese

[Gaditanian]

I doubt it, considering that my Ydna comes from my Andalusian side.:D

But Andalusians comes from north Spain including Euskadi, so we back to the starting point :cool:

[Gaditanian]

Target: cpalscaled

7.4 Slav



Lucky you !!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLW1ieY4Izw

[gixajo]

But Andalusians comes from north Spain including Euskadi, so we back to the starting point :cool:

R1a it´s rare in Andalusia, but is more rare even among Basques, and my subclade is rare even where it is suposed to come from (center Europe).:picard1:

[Defcon2]

But Andalusians comes from north Spain including Euskadi, so we back to the starting point :cool:

Cantabrian settlers.

[Lucas]

Target: Lukasz_scaled
Distance: 2.9294% / 0.02929374
72.8 Slav
25.0 Baltic
2.2 Greek

[Gaditanian]

R1a it´s rare in Andalusia, but is more rare even among Basques, and my subclade is rare even where it is suposed to come from (center Europe).:picard1:

R1a ? :eek: maybe comes from the Slavic Kingdoms of Al-Andalus

https://www.weeky.es/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/taifa.jpg

[gixajo]

R1a ? :eek: maybe comes from the Slavic Kingdoms of Al-Andalus

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I don´t know where it comes from...

[Ylla]

Distance: 3.5229% / 0.03522917
68.6 Greek
20.0 Slav
11.4 German

[InfamousAngel99]

Distance: 0.8296% / 0.00829602
99.2 German
0.8 Greek

I have very recent Croatian ancestry, and a bit further back Polish ancestry. Not sure why I’m getting Greek.

[paradox]

Target: scaled
Distance: 1.5108% / 0.01510801
62.4 Greek
37.4 Slav
0.2 German
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Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.4137% / 0.02413678
45.6 Greek
39.8 Slav
14.6 German

[gixajo]

Distance: 0.8296% / 0.00829602


I have very recent Croatian ancestry, and a bit further back Polish ancestry. Not sure why I’m getting Greek.

What you should do it´s to get your real G25 coordinates and stop using these horrible and fake coordinates that that stupid gixajo made.

[Art23]

Distance: 2.6453% / 0.02645285
42.8 Baltic
40.4 Slav
16.2 Greek
0.6 Caucasus

[Korialstrasz]

Nice:


Distance: 3.2431% / 0.03243117
50.4 Caucasus
27.8 Slav
12.0 Greek
9.8 Turkic

[Grace O'Malley]

What you should do it´s to get your real G25 coordinates and stop using these horrible and fake coordinates that that stupid gixajo made.

G25 are very cheap also. They are definitely value for money.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 2.9028% / 0.02902802
100.0 German:(German+Austrian)+(German+Dutch)+Danish

Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.02902802 German:(German+Austrian)+(German+Dutch)+Danish
0.06828235 Slav:Polish+Ukrainian
0.08141942 Slav:Russian_Kostroma+Russian_Kursk+Russian_Orel+R ussian_Pinega+Russian_Smolensk+Russian_Tver+Russia n_Voronez
0.09128279 Baltic:Latvian+Estonian
0.15567596 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese
0.16422811 Greek:(Kos+Crete+Cyprus)
0.19707774 Caucasus:Armenian
0.19841320 Caucasus:Georgian
0.23293251 Turkic:Turkmen+Turkmen_Uzbekistan

[gixajo]

G25 are very cheap also. They are definitely value for money.

an


It's starting to get a bit boring, but for ten euros at least it has given me enough entertainment till now.

The "alternative" coordinates were supposed to be for that people who couldn't get their real ones because Davidski couldn't provide them during the summer.

[Kaspias]

Target: Kaspias
Distance: 2.8325% / 0.02832497
47.0 Greek
26.6 Turkic
26.4 Slav

[Dunai]

Distance is very good:
Target: Dunai
Distance: 1.7207% / 0.01720708
42.4 Slav
41.2 German
8.6 Greek
7.8 Turkic

[Grace O'Malley]

It's starting to get a bit boring, but for ten euros at least it has given me enough entertainment till now.

The "alternative" coordinates were supposed to be for that people who couldn't get their real ones because Davidski couldn't provide them during the summer.

There needs to be more ancient genomes which I'm sure we will get during this year.

Claytons is not the same as the real thing. :)

[gixajo]

There needs to be more ancient genomes which I'm sure we will get during this year.

Claytons is not the same as the real thing. :)

Oh yes, but please, not just for NW europeans and no more "vikings":D

it´s a pity also that modern pops will not be updated.

[Kenshiro]

Target: Kenshiro_scaled
Distance: 2.7334% / 0.02733353
71.6 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese
28.2 German:(German+Austrian)+(German+Dutch)+Danish
0.2 Slav:Russian_Kostroma+Russian_Kursk+Russian_Orel+R ussian_Pinega+Russian_Smolensk+Russian_Tver+Russia n_Voro

[noricum]

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.5615% / 0.02561536
46.0 Slav
44.0 German
10.0 Greek

[MercifulServant]

Target: Decius_scaled
Distance: 3.1191% / 0.03119073
50.2 Slav
36.6 Greek
13.2 German

[Nurzat]

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 0.0182% / 0.01824822
60.7 Slav
26.4 Greek
11.1 German
1.8 Turkic

[Dušan]

Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 1.9226% / 0.01922648
71.0 Slav: Polish+Ukrainian
29.0 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese

[rothaer]

If German is provided instead of Germanic, I will rocket, of course. :p Also, Baltic seems preferred to Slavic.

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.4861% / 0.01486110
70.0 German
28.4 Baltic
1.6 Greek

Target: rothaer_wife2_scaled
Distance: 2.2562% / 0.02256240
73.8 German
26.2 Baltic

[Vitez]

Target: Vitez_scaled
Distance: 0.0179% / 0.01787240
61.5 Slav
24.8 Greek
13.7 German

[Far_away]

Distance: 3.1083% / 0.03108339
46.4 Slav
40.0 Greek
13.6 German

[Dušan]

Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 1.9226% / 0.01922648
71.0 Slav: Polish+Ukrainian
29.0 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese

Similar with real coords:

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.9448% / 0.02944752
69.6 Slav: Polish+Ukrainian
30.4 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese

[Katarzyna]

Target: Katarzyna_MH(real)
Distance: 1.5443% / 0.01544332
53.6 Slav:Polish+Ukrainian
30.8 Baltic:Latvian+Estonian
15.6 German:(German+Austrian)+(German+Dutch)+Danish

Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
Distance: 1.2253% / 0.01225298
49.0 Slav:Polish+Ukrainian
35.8 Baltic:Latvian+Estonian
15.2 German:(German+Austrian)+(German+Dutch)+Danish

Looks accurate :)

[Voskos]

Similar with real coords:

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.9448% / 0.02944752
69.6 Slav: Polish+Ukrainian
30.4 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese

I think you can pass in Crete as atypical bro. I have a friend half Polish half Northern Greek, he passed in Crete among us.

[Beowulf]

With a Iberian sample:

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0168% / 0.01675608
65.3 Iberian
25.4 German
6.1 Greek
2.5 Slav
0.7 Caucasus

[DomitiusAurelian]

Target: Domitius_scaled
Distance: 1.8845% / 0.01884509
39.8 Greek
31.2 Turkic
29.0 Caucasus

[nittionia]

Target: nittionia_scaled
Distance: 2.7430% / 0.02742999
97.0 German
3.0 Turkic

[celticdragongod]

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02311160 German:(German+Austrian)+(German+Dutch)+Danish
0.06542519 Slav:Polish+Ukrainian
0.07962187 Slav:Russian_Kostroma+Russian_Kursk+Russian_Orel+R ussian_Pinega+Russian_Smolensk+Russian_Tver+Russia n_Voronez
0.09138906 Baltic:Latvian+Estonian
0.15048597 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese
0.15981058 Greek:(Kos+Crete+Cyprus)
0.19484976 Caucasus:Armenian
0.19700369 Caucasus:Georgian
0.23076447 Turkic:Turkmen+Turkmen_Uzbekistan

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.3112% / 0.02311160
100.0 German:(German+Austrian)+(German+Dutch)+Danish

[Ahmet]

I get Baltic or East European, Slav in almost every model. I wonder if this is real or just noise :icon_ask:

Target: Ahmet_scaled
Distance: 2.7058% / 0.02705818
56.8 Caucasus:Armenian
19.2 Turkic:Turkmen+Turkmen_Uzbekistan
17.2 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese
3.6 Caucasus:Georgian
3.2 Baltic:Latvian+Estonian

Target: Ahmet_scaled
Distance: 2.7127% / 0.02712710 | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.8 Caucasus:Armenian
18.8 Turkic:Turkmen+Turkmen_Uzbekistan
15.2 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese
4.2 Slav:Russian_Kostroma+Russian_Kursk+Russian_Orel+R ussian_Pinega+Russian_Smolensk+Russian_Tver+Russia n_Voronez

Target: Ahmet_scaled
Distance: 2.7715% / 0.02771516 | ADC: 0.5x RC
56.4 Caucasus:Armenian
23.0 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese
20.6 Turkic:Turkmen+Turkmen_Uzbekistan

[Annihilus]

Target: annihilus_g25_sim
Distance: 0.6674% / 0.00667373
44.2 Caucasus
26.4 Greek
16.8 Slav
7.2 Baltic
5.4 Turkic

Target: annihilus_g25_sim
Distance: 0.6670% / 0.00667049
29.4 Caucasus:Armenian
26.2 Greek:Crete+Dodecanese
17.8 Slav:Polish+Ukrainian
14.8 Caucasus:Georgian
6.4 Baltic:Latvian+Estonian
5.4 Turkic:Turkmen+Turkmen_Uzbekistan