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TeutonicBoyars
12-28-2020, 10:34 PM
Credit goes to Peterski for the base calculator, I just changed a few source samples around to get some good fits with many individuals, including myself. Curious to see how well it works with others:

Recommended 0.25x or 0.5x. In general I think any distance lower than that is worthless for any calculator.


Germanic:DEU_MA,0.1223596,0.1303939,0.061169,0.048 773,0.039792,0.0199408,0.010975,0.0052151,0.001329 5,-0.0024966,-0.003735,0.001109,-0.0091576,-0.0038398,0.0161643,-0.0008352,-0.0133511,0.0032684,0.0041354,0.0040271,0.0060019, 0.0037342,-0.0007273,0.011146,-0.0004429
Germanic:SWE_IA,0.122929,0.123895,0.067127,0.05846 3,0.041238,0.02008,0.005875,0.007615,0.002863,-0.009659,0.003735,0.001948,-0.006987,0.003853,0.020358,-0.006762,-0.015385,0.006461,0.009427,0.00025,0.00025,0.00284 4,0.002465,0.011447,0.000359
Germanic:DNK_BA,0.1160995,0.1370965,0.0633565,0.05 24875,0.0296975,0.0301205,0.011163,-0.005192,-0.0072605,-0.003827,-0.002923,0.0089175,-0.004683,-0.0161015,0.0138435,0.0041765,0.00678,0.009565,0.0 152095,0.0046275,0.017906,-0.0087795,0.000801,0.002651,-0.0113765
Slavic:Sorb,0.130897,0.137096,0.068636,0.056848,0. 050779,0.021196,0.011281,0.011076,-0.003477,-0.017312,-0.002111,-0.006744,0.013082,0.017891,-0.008415,0.001061,0.008475,-0.006208,0.007039,-0.004127,-0.003369,-0.007543,0.008011,-0.004458,0.001197
Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav,0.12862,0.129988,0.068259,0. 046835,0.02739,0.013387,0.007285,0.014076,-0.001841,-0.018406,-0.000812,-0.004346,0.003717,0.007156,-0.010993,-0.003182,0.011604,-0.002027,-0.002388,-0.004752,0.005615,0.000618,0.001725,-0.000964,-0.006706
Slavic:Ukrainian,0.130927,0.124087,0.06835,0.05755 5,0.037687,0.021294,0.008765,0.011307,-0.002891,-0.0211,-0.001633,-0.007659,0.015356,0.021633,-0.011235,-0.001097,0.00469,-0.000699,0.002599,0.0017,-0.004499,-0.003479,0.006739,-0.004058,0.000722
Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA,0.132035,0.151314,0.033941,-0.01615,0.024928,-0.005857,-0.006345,0.007154,0.003681,0.028976,0.001786,0.011 69,-0.02111,-0.001376,-0.005972,-0.008486,-0.006519,0.004941,0.005531,-0.014257,-0.001872,0.00507,0.001479,0.00253,0.003353
Roman:DEU_Roman,0.117238,0.151314,0.045254,0.00032 3,0.052317,0.001952,0.0047,-0.006,0.01943,0.028064,-0.002436,0.004946,-0.017393,-0.013212,-0.004614,0.00411,0.009388,0.006334,-0.000377,5e-04,0.000624,0.001484,-0.000616,-0.00735,-0.001796
Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial,0.1027016,0.1489866,-0.0237507,-0.0575546,0.0043725,-0.0203241,-0.0013366,-0.0049469,0.0004219,0.019336,0.0032343,0.0023073,-0.0039209,-0.0015167,-0.008033,-0.0017982,0.003773,0.0005358,0.0013329,-0.0030926,-0.0024437,0.0018729,-0.0008961,-0.0004869,0.0005663
Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA,0.125205,0.147252,0. 045254,0.005814,0.044931,0.005578,-0.00094,0.003461,0.023725,0.039363,-0.004547,0.008992,-0.021407,-0.014726,0.012893,-0.001989,-0.001043,0.006208,0.003017,-0.003252,0.004742,0.002844,-0.006286,-0.000241,-0.002036
Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA,0.126344,0.1533 45,0.035072,-0.014858,0.052317,-0.013387,-0.00094,0.003461,0.020452,0.04155,0.004222,0.01004 1,-0.013528,-0.008808,0.007465,-0.015646,-0.011995,-0.003041,0.004902,-0.012631,0.007861,0.006306,-0.007641,-0.001325,0.008023
Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA,0.127482,0.148267,0.03469 5,-0.017442,0.043085,-0.005578,-0.002115,-0.003231,0.024952,0.051391,-0.001461,0.013488,-0.034043,-0.010184,-0.008415,0.011535,0.018515,-0.003674,0.005405,0.004377,0.003244,-0.001731,0.002588,-0.006266,-0.007544
Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA,0.133173,0.156392,0.0441 23,-0.010336,0.046778,-0.004741,0.008225,0.004154,0.023725,0.044283,-0.004222,0.01109,-0.02215,-0.011147,-0.006243,-0.006099,0.002738,-0.000127,0.004902,-0.004252,-0.009109,0.004328,-0.003081,-0.009519,-0.002874
Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany,0.12862,0.1376045,0.07 05215,0.034238,0.0481625,0.004044,0.0019975,0.0013 85,0.018509,0.019955,-0.012017,-0.0052455,-0.00944,0.0006195,0.0095685,-0.0013255,-0.005998,0.001774,0.0048395,0.0080665,0.001061,0.0 019785,-0.0006165,-0.005422,-0.0034725
Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78,0.132035,0.135065,0.04 6386,0.034238,0.036314,0.003626,0.002585,0.005769, 0.005318,0.010023,0.001299,0.011839,-0.016947,-0.015001,0.017236,0.015115,0.021513,0.005828,0.003 268,0.003252,0.006239,-0.002102,0.001109,-0.002651,-0.001676
Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119,0.121791,0.140143,0.0 5242,0.026486,0.040623,0.003068,0.001175,0.001154, 0.003477,0.017859,-0.001299,0.01124,-0.020961,-0.019818,0.01045,0.02201,0.01708,-0.0019,0.009679,0.002376,0.007986,0.003957,-0.005053,0.000964,0.008382
Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2,0.124067,0.140143,0.056 191,0.041021,0.042162,0.016455,-0.003055,0.002077,0.014112,0.018406,0.002273,0.006 744,-0.020218,-0.000413,0.011672,0.001591,-0.008996,-0.006334,0.013073,0.012631,0.006988,0.00371,0.0014 79,-0.005422,-0.00467
Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116,0.126344,0.140143 ,0.052797,0.019703,0.044624,0.001673,0.00282,0.008 307,0.018816,0.019681,-0.000487,0.005845,-0.013528,-0.010459,0.009365,0.003447,-0.000391,0,0.000628,-0.004752,0.002246,0.002597,-0.006286,-0.000964,0.00455
Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d,0.127482,0.1563 92,0.047894,0.005491,0.04647,-0.011435,0.00329,0.011538,0.010022,0.031345,0.0064 96,0.012889,-0.012487,-0.01156,-0.0095,0.000796,0.001565,-0.003801,-0.005656,0.005753,-0.002995,0.009521,-0.001356,-0.006386,-0.011855


My results:

Distance: 2.6093% / 0.02609273
Target: Ulrik_scaled | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.6 Slavic
32.2 Germanic
19.2 Celtic

These match my old 5.2 23andMe Results (and IMO the more accurate ones) almost perfectly, where I got around 48,2% Eastern European (Slavic), 32% Scandinavian (Germanic) and 18.2% British/Irish (Celtic).

Impaler
12-28-2020, 10:45 PM
Target: Impaler_scaled
Distance: 3.7174% / 0.03717439 | ADC: 0.25x RC
51.0 Roman
27.4 Slavic
18.6 Germanic
3.0 Celtic

Target: Impaler_scaled
Distance: 3.7573% / 0.03757303 | ADC: 0.5x RC
49.8 Roman
31.8 Slavic
12.8 Germanic
5.6 Celtic

Chris596
12-28-2020, 10:46 PM
There's no way I'm 60% Slavic and 35% Roman and Celtic. More like 70-75% Paleo-Balkan and 25-30% Slavic.

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 2.0659% / 0.02065884 | ADC: 0.25x
59.8 Slavic
34.6 Roman
5.2 Celtic
0.4 Paleo-Balkan

Distance to: Chris_scaled
0.05276191 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.05793308 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.06089640 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.06169830 Slavic:Ukrainian
0.06237788 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.06436128 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.06460993 Slavic:Sorb
0.06469257 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.06477653 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.06530590 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.06736393 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.07069966 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.07439019 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.07515774 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.07556287 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.07932392 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.08869093 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.08944316 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.11703826 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial

gixajo
12-28-2020, 10:51 PM
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.9119% / 0.01911852 | ADC: 0.25x
75.4 Roman
24.6 Celtic

Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.02349797 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.03215924 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.03365390 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.03904390 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.03911147 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.04341131 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.05280212 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.05393175 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.05615578 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.05706710 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.05726659 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.06007739 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.07737419 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.09154529 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.09191810 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.09552914 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.10396724 Slavic:Sorb
0.10929702 Slavic:Ukrainian
0.11266635 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial


Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.4150% / 0.02415012 | ADC: 0.25x
90.0 Roman
10.0 Celtic

Distance to: gixajo_dad_scaled
0.03397060 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.03469484 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.03751232 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.03994498 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.04235997 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.04769582 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.05059542 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.05092851 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.06694103 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.06870309 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.07188304 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.07376411 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.09126557 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.10051864 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.10409728 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.10455446 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.10675978 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.11583211 Slavic:Sorb
0.12094922 Slavic:Ukrainian

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.0022% / 0.02002163 | ADC: 0.25x
75.6 Roman
17.8 Celtic
6.6 Germanic


Distance to: gixajo_mom_scaled
0.02527327 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.03193075 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.04210021 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.04307952 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.04704331 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.04771976 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.04952827 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.05555871 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.05904210 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.06076092 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.06509403 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.06900525 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.07058110 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.08410544 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.08797215 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.09291521 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.10171219 Slavic:Sorb
0.10666233 Slavic:Ukrainian
0.12239419 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial

JamesBond007
12-28-2020, 10:53 PM
Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 2.4894% / 0.02489366
56.0 Germanic
44.0 Celtic

Only 3 Germanic samples but 6 Celtic ones ? Hmmm, maybe that is not so good . Modified, maybe, better ? :

Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 1.5855% / 0.01585509
71.0 Germanic
29.0 Celtic



Germanic:DEU_MA,0.1223596,0.1303939,0.061169,0.048 773,0.039792,0.0199408,0.010975,0.0052151,0.001329 5,-0.0024966,-0.003735,0.001109,-0.0091576,-0.0038398,0.0161643,-0.0008352,-0.0133511,0.0032684,0.0041354,0.0040271,0.0060019, 0.0037342,-0.0007273,0.011146,-0.0004429
Germanic:SWE_IA,0.122929,0.123895,0.067127,0.05846 3,0.041238,0.02008,0.005875,0.007615,0.002863,-0.009659,0.003735,0.001948,-0.006987,0.003853,0.020358,-0.006762,-0.015385,0.006461,0.009427,0.00025,0.00025,0.00284 4,0.002465,0.011447,0.000359
Germanic:DNK_BA,0.1160995,0.1370965,0.0633565,0.05 24875,0.0296975,0.0301205,0.011163,-0.005192,-0.0072605,-0.003827,-0.002923,0.0089175,-0.004683,-0.0161015,0.0138435,0.0041765,0.00678,0.009565,0.0 152095,0.0046275,0.017906,-0.0087795,0.000801,0.002651,-0.0113765
Germanic:Norse,0.1281142,0.1294236,0.0681749,0.061 8366,0.0366562,0.0195534,0.0069459,0.0088458,0.000 2728,-0.0021463,-0.0048718,0.009608,-0.0101914,-0.0155362,0.0242939,0.0120656,0.0019703,0.0065033, 0.002947,0.0051831,0.0056566,0.004053,0.0024102,0. 0136563,0.0015302
Germanic:Longobard,0.114961,0.106631,0.048649,0.04 2959,0.028313,0.013387,0.011281,0.017768,-0.001432,-0.010023,-0.002436,0.006444,-0.01219,0.007156,0.018051,0.002387,0.00013,0.00848 8,0.011816,0.002876,0.010482,-0.000866,0.006039,0.005302,-0.000239
Germanic: Deutschendorf_Poprad_MA,0.124067,0.135065,0.059585 ,0.043282,0.041238,0.017291,-0.001175,0.002769,0.002659,-0.00328,-0.003248,0.007044,-0.012487,-0.006606,0.0057,0.020154,0.002217,0.000127,-0.000377,-0.00075,-0.00287,0.004081,0.000986,0.021328,0.000599
Slavic:Sorb,0.130897,0.137096,0.068636,0.056848,0. 050779,0.021196,0.011281,0.011076,-0.003477,-0.017312,-0.002111,-0.006744,0.013082,0.017891,-0.008415,0.001061,0.008475,-0.006208,0.007039,-0.004127,-0.003369,-0.007543,0.008011,-0.004458,0.001197
Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav,0.12862,0.129988,0.068259,0. 046835,0.02739,0.013387,0.007285,0.014076,-0.001841,-0.018406,-0.000812,-0.004346,0.003717,0.007156,-0.010993,-0.003182,0.011604,-0.002027,-0.002388,-0.004752,0.005615,0.000618,0.001725,-0.000964,-0.006706
Slavic:Ukrainian,0.130927,0.124087,0.06835,0.05755 5,0.037687,0.021294,0.008765,0.011307,-0.002891,-0.0211,-0.001633,-0.007659,0.015356,0.021633,-0.011235,-0.001097,0.00469,-0.000699,0.002599,0.0017,-0.004499,-0.003479,0.006739,-0.004058,0.000722
Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA,0.132035,0.151314,0.033941,-0.01615,0.024928,-0.005857,-0.006345,0.007154,0.003681,0.028976,0.001786,0.011 69,-0.02111,-0.001376,-0.005972,-0.008486,-0.006519,0.004941,0.005531,-0.014257,-0.001872,0.00507,0.001479,0.00253,0.003353
Roman:DEU_Roman,0.117238,0.151314,0.045254,0.00032 3,0.052317,0.001952,0.0047,-0.006,0.01943,0.028064,-0.002436,0.004946,-0.017393,-0.013212,-0.004614,0.00411,0.009388,0.006334,-0.000377,5e-04,0.000624,0.001484,-0.000616,-0.00735,-0.001796
Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial,0.1027016,0.1489866,-0.0237507,-0.0575546,0.0043725,-0.0203241,-0.0013366,-0.0049469,0.0004219,0.019336,0.0032343,0.0023073,-0.0039209,-0.0015167,-0.008033,-0.0017982,0.003773,0.0005358,0.0013329,-0.0030926,-0.0024437,0.0018729,-0.0008961,-0.0004869,0.0005663
Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA,0.125205,0.147252,0. 045254,0.005814,0.044931,0.005578,-0.00094,0.003461,0.023725,0.039363,-0.004547,0.008992,-0.021407,-0.014726,0.012893,-0.001989,-0.001043,0.006208,0.003017,-0.003252,0.004742,0.002844,-0.006286,-0.000241,-0.002036
Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA,0.126344,0.1533 45,0.035072,-0.014858,0.052317,-0.013387,-0.00094,0.003461,0.020452,0.04155,0.004222,0.01004 1,-0.013528,-0.008808,0.007465,-0.015646,-0.011995,-0.003041,0.004902,-0.012631,0.007861,0.006306,-0.007641,-0.001325,0.008023
Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA,0.127482,0.148267,0.03469 5,-0.017442,0.043085,-0.005578,-0.002115,-0.003231,0.024952,0.051391,-0.001461,0.013488,-0.034043,-0.010184,-0.008415,0.011535,0.018515,-0.003674,0.005405,0.004377,0.003244,-0.001731,0.002588,-0.006266,-0.007544
Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA,0.133173,0.156392,0.0441 23,-0.010336,0.046778,-0.004741,0.008225,0.004154,0.023725,0.044283,-0.004222,0.01109,-0.02215,-0.011147,-0.006243,-0.006099,0.002738,-0.000127,0.004902,-0.004252,-0.009109,0.004328,-0.003081,-0.009519,-0.002874
Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany,0.12862,0.1376045,0.07 05215,0.034238,0.0481625,0.004044,0.0019975,0.0013 85,0.018509,0.019955,-0.012017,-0.0052455,-0.00944,0.0006195,0.0095685,-0.0013255,-0.005998,0.001774,0.0048395,0.0080665,0.001061,0.0 019785,-0.0006165,-0.005422,-0.0034725
Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78,0.132035,0.135065,0.04 6386,0.034238,0.036314,0.003626,0.002585,0.005769, 0.005318,0.010023,0.001299,0.011839,-0.016947,-0.015001,0.017236,0.015115,0.021513,0.005828,0.003 268,0.003252,0.006239,-0.002102,0.001109,-0.002651,-0.001676
Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119,0.121791,0.140143,0.0 5242,0.026486,0.040623,0.003068,0.001175,0.001154, 0.003477,0.017859,-0.001299,0.01124,-0.020961,-0.019818,0.01045,0.02201,0.01708,-0.0019,0.009679,0.002376,0.007986,0.003957,-0.005053,0.000964,0.008382
Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2,0.124067,0.140143,0.056 191,0.041021,0.042162,0.016455,-0.003055,0.002077,0.014112,0.018406,0.002273,0.006 744,-0.020218,-0.000413,0.011672,0.001591,-0.008996,-0.006334,0.013073,0.012631,0.006988,0.00371,0.0014 79,-0.005422,-0.00467
Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116,0.126344,0.140143 ,0.052797,0.019703,0.044624,0.001673,0.00282,0.008 307,0.018816,0.019681,-0.000487,0.005845,-0.013528,-0.010459,0.009365,0.003447,-0.000391,0,0.000628,-0.004752,0.002246,0.002597,-0.006286,-0.000964,0.00455
Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d,0.127482,0.1563 92,0.047894,0.005491,0.04647,-0.011435,0.00329,0.011538,0.010022,0.031345,0.0064 96,0.012889,-0.012487,-0.01156,-0.0095,0.000796,0.001565,-0.003801,-0.005656,0.005753,-0.002995,0.009521,-0.001356,-0.006386,-0.011855

Coastal Elite
12-28-2020, 10:56 PM
Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 1.7606% / 0.01760636 | ADC: 0.25x RC
33.8 Germanic
28.2 Paleo-Balkan
19.4 Celtic
13.6 Slavic
5.0 Roman

Distance to: DacoCeltic_scaled
0.03907768 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.04137009 Celtic: DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.04593280 Celtic: DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.04631012 Germanic: DEU_MA
0.04759063 Celtic: DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.05029466 Celtic: CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.05458717 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.05725410 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.05771696 Roman: DEU_Roman
0.05873969 Celtic: DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.05875933 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.05977118 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.06036753 Germanic: DNK_BA
0.06974852 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.07291113 Slavic:Sorb
0.07389855 Slavic:Ukrainian
0.07634531 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.08061514 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.12044158 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial

alnortedelsur
12-28-2020, 10:58 PM
Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 6.9529% / 0.06952865
46.0 Roman
38.6 Celtic
15.4 Germanic

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 6.9529% / 0.06952865 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.0 Roman
38.6 Celtic
15.4 Germanic

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 6.9529% / 0.06952865 | ADC: 0.5x RC
46.0 Roman
38.6 Celtic
15.4 Germanic



Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.08495694 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.08646854 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.08766784 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.08881319 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.09069361 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.09627406 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.09680599 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.09689252 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.09792402 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.09888411 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.09897246 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.10296452 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.10567864 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.10740112 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.11361535 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.11399200 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.11783300 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.12931416 Slavic:Ukrainian
0.13163791 Slavic:Sorb

17571imre
12-28-2020, 11:01 PM
There's no way I'm 60% Slavic and 35% Roman and Celtic. More like 70-75% Paleo-Balkan and 25-30% Slavic.

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 2.0659% / 0.02065884 | ADC: 0.25x
59.8 Slavic
34.6 Roman
5.2 Celtic
0.4 Paleo-Balkan

Distance to: Chris_scaled
0.05276191 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.05793308 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.06089640 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.06169830 Slavic:Ukrainian
0.06237788 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.06436128 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.06460993 Slavic:Sorb
0.06469257 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.06477653 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.06530590 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.06736393 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.07069966 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.07439019 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.07515774 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.07556287 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.07932392 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.08869093 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.08944316 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.11703826 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial

paleo balkan is balkan without slavic anecstry. on k13 you plot as a serbian and Serbians are more slavic then Paleo Balkan if i remember so the results are not that strange for you. if you were 75% balkan and 25 Slavic then you would probably plot as an Albanian.

gixajo
12-28-2020, 11:08 PM
Purest Romans are Iberians, it seems.;)

gixajo
12-28-2020, 11:13 PM
"DEU Roman"...:picard1:

Distance to: Roman:DEU_Roman
0.02420734 Spanish_Extremadura:HG01510
0.02482220 Spanish_Alacant:ALE005
0.02526105 Spanish_Mallorca:SOL053
0.02601334 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GRA011
0.02602989 Spanish_Barcelones:GUS119
0.02621865 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:BOS029
0.02655873 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:MAS003
0.02676415 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:FER039
0.02682678 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:ROI042
0.02688170 Spanish_Baleares:HG01615
0.02727699 Spanish_Andalucia:HG01623
0.02743477 Spanish_Aragon:HG01676
0.02754931 Spanish_Cataluna:HG01537
0.02815277 Spanish_Penedes:VID003
0.02862529 Spanish_Menorca:GUS007
0.02867367 Spanish_Baleares:HG01613
0.02878646 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:ROS008
0.02881215 Spanish_Andalucia:AND33
0.02898215 Spanish_Aragon:HG01673
0.02907384 Spanish_Lleida:MST075
0.02919404 Spanish_Baleares:HG01625
0.02925448 Spanish_Girona:REI087
0.02931447 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:CAR048
0.02941051 Spanish_Valencia:EST038
0.02943736 French_Auvergne:C_80

IceQueen
12-28-2020, 11:29 PM
Distance: 2.9960% / 0.02996014
Target: IceQueen_scaled | ADC: 0.25x RC
92.2 Germanic
7.8 Roman

Distance to: IceQueen_scaled
0.03096437 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.04103740 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.05187676 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.05376695 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.05495426 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.05746816 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.06363114 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.06495761 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.07057340 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.07504604 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.07818390 Slavic:Sorb
0.08024386 Slavic:Ukrainian
0.08486158 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.08884940 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.09549206 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.09729375 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.10113232 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.11690032 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.15777674 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial

Grace O'Malley
12-28-2020, 11:37 PM
The Celtic samples are Continental so why I get a low result.


Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 2.8398% / 0.02839774
79.4 Germanic
20.6 Celtic

Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.03048875 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.04045569 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.04739823 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.05131057 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.05219020 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.05288689 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.05777832 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.06033807 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.06219364 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.07027141 Slavic:Sorb
0.07212015 Slavic:Ukrainian
0.07849833 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.08793736 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.08805745 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.10141706 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.10306995 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.10546058 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.11582436 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.16335011 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial

TeutonicBoyars
12-29-2020, 12:04 AM
The Celtic samples are Continental so why I get a low result.


Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 2.8398% / 0.02839774
79.4 Germanic
20.6 Celtic

Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.03048875 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.04045569 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.04739823 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.05131057 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.05219020 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.05288689 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.05777832 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.06033807 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.06219364 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.07027141 Slavic:Sorb
0.07212015 Slavic:Ukrainian
0.07849833 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.08793736 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.08805745 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.10141706 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.10306995 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.10546058 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.11582436 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.16335011 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial

Odd, for most British Islanders (that I've tested) the Celtic is consistent, despite its continental origins. It looks like you ran the calc at base distances tho. Maybe try 0.5x.

TeutonicBoyars
12-29-2020, 12:06 AM
Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 1.7606% / 0.01760636 | ADC: 0.25x RC
33.8 Germanic
28.2 Paleo-Balkan
19.4 Celtic
13.6 Slavic
5.0 Roman

Distance to: DacoCeltic_scaled
0.03907768 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.04137009 Celtic: DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.04593280 Celtic: DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.04631012 Germanic: DEU_MA
0.04759063 Celtic: DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.05029466 Celtic: CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.05458717 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.05725410 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.05771696 Roman: DEU_Roman
0.05873969 Celtic: DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.05875933 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.05977118 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.06036753 Germanic: DNK_BA
0.06974852 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.07291113 Slavic:Sorb
0.07389855 Slavic:Ukrainian
0.07634531 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.08061514 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.12044158 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial

Looks pretty good for you. Again, I want to emphasize to people that I recommend trying both 0.25x and 0.5x to potentially eliminate noise.

Cernunnos
12-29-2020, 12:07 AM
Distance: 2.7330% / 0.02733039
Target: Cernunnos_scaled
64.0 Roman
36.0 Celtic

Grace O'Malley
12-29-2020, 12:11 AM
Odd, for most British Islanders (that I've tested) the Celtic is consistent, despite its continental origins. It looks like you ran the calc at base distances tho. Maybe try 0.5x.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 2.8406% / 0.02840614 | ADC: 0.5x RC
80.2 Germanic
19.8 Celtic

TeutonicBoyars
12-29-2020, 12:13 AM
Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 2.4894% / 0.02489366
56.0 Germanic
44.0 Celtic

Only 3 Germanic samples but 6 Celtic ones ? Hmmm, maybe that is not so good . Modified, maybe, better ? :

Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 1.5855% / 0.01585509
71.0 Germanic
29.0 Celtic



Germanic:DEU_MA,0.1223596,0.1303939,0.061169,0.048 773,0.039792,0.0199408,0.010975,0.0052151,0.001329 5,-0.0024966,-0.003735,0.001109,-0.0091576,-0.0038398,0.0161643,-0.0008352,-0.0133511,0.0032684,0.0041354,0.0040271,0.0060019, 0.0037342,-0.0007273,0.011146,-0.0004429
Germanic:SWE_IA,0.122929,0.123895,0.067127,0.05846 3,0.041238,0.02008,0.005875,0.007615,0.002863,-0.009659,0.003735,0.001948,-0.006987,0.003853,0.020358,-0.006762,-0.015385,0.006461,0.009427,0.00025,0.00025,0.00284 4,0.002465,0.011447,0.000359
Germanic:DNK_BA,0.1160995,0.1370965,0.0633565,0.05 24875,0.0296975,0.0301205,0.011163,-0.005192,-0.0072605,-0.003827,-0.002923,0.0089175,-0.004683,-0.0161015,0.0138435,0.0041765,0.00678,0.009565,0.0 152095,0.0046275,0.017906,-0.0087795,0.000801,0.002651,-0.0113765
Germanic:Norse,0.1281142,0.1294236,0.0681749,0.061 8366,0.0366562,0.0195534,0.0069459,0.0088458,0.000 2728,-0.0021463,-0.0048718,0.009608,-0.0101914,-0.0155362,0.0242939,0.0120656,0.0019703,0.0065033, 0.002947,0.0051831,0.0056566,0.004053,0.0024102,0. 0136563,0.0015302
Germanic:Longobard,0.114961,0.106631,0.048649,0.04 2959,0.028313,0.013387,0.011281,0.017768,-0.001432,-0.010023,-0.002436,0.006444,-0.01219,0.007156,0.018051,0.002387,0.00013,0.00848 8,0.011816,0.002876,0.010482,-0.000866,0.006039,0.005302,-0.000239
Germanic: Deutschendorf_Poprad_MA,0.124067,0.135065,0.059585 ,0.043282,0.041238,0.017291,-0.001175,0.002769,0.002659,-0.00328,-0.003248,0.007044,-0.012487,-0.006606,0.0057,0.020154,0.002217,0.000127,-0.000377,-0.00075,-0.00287,0.004081,0.000986,0.021328,0.000599
Slavic:Sorb,0.130897,0.137096,0.068636,0.056848,0. 050779,0.021196,0.011281,0.011076,-0.003477,-0.017312,-0.002111,-0.006744,0.013082,0.017891,-0.008415,0.001061,0.008475,-0.006208,0.007039,-0.004127,-0.003369,-0.007543,0.008011,-0.004458,0.001197
Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav,0.12862,0.129988,0.068259,0. 046835,0.02739,0.013387,0.007285,0.014076,-0.001841,-0.018406,-0.000812,-0.004346,0.003717,0.007156,-0.010993,-0.003182,0.011604,-0.002027,-0.002388,-0.004752,0.005615,0.000618,0.001725,-0.000964,-0.006706
Slavic:Ukrainian,0.130927,0.124087,0.06835,0.05755 5,0.037687,0.021294,0.008765,0.011307,-0.002891,-0.0211,-0.001633,-0.007659,0.015356,0.021633,-0.011235,-0.001097,0.00469,-0.000699,0.002599,0.0017,-0.004499,-0.003479,0.006739,-0.004058,0.000722
Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA,0.132035,0.151314,0.033941,-0.01615,0.024928,-0.005857,-0.006345,0.007154,0.003681,0.028976,0.001786,0.011 69,-0.02111,-0.001376,-0.005972,-0.008486,-0.006519,0.004941,0.005531,-0.014257,-0.001872,0.00507,0.001479,0.00253,0.003353
Roman:DEU_Roman,0.117238,0.151314,0.045254,0.00032 3,0.052317,0.001952,0.0047,-0.006,0.01943,0.028064,-0.002436,0.004946,-0.017393,-0.013212,-0.004614,0.00411,0.009388,0.006334,-0.000377,5e-04,0.000624,0.001484,-0.000616,-0.00735,-0.001796
Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial,0.1027016,0.1489866,-0.0237507,-0.0575546,0.0043725,-0.0203241,-0.0013366,-0.0049469,0.0004219,0.019336,0.0032343,0.0023073,-0.0039209,-0.0015167,-0.008033,-0.0017982,0.003773,0.0005358,0.0013329,-0.0030926,-0.0024437,0.0018729,-0.0008961,-0.0004869,0.0005663
Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA,0.125205,0.147252,0. 045254,0.005814,0.044931,0.005578,-0.00094,0.003461,0.023725,0.039363,-0.004547,0.008992,-0.021407,-0.014726,0.012893,-0.001989,-0.001043,0.006208,0.003017,-0.003252,0.004742,0.002844,-0.006286,-0.000241,-0.002036
Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA,0.126344,0.1533 45,0.035072,-0.014858,0.052317,-0.013387,-0.00094,0.003461,0.020452,0.04155,0.004222,0.01004 1,-0.013528,-0.008808,0.007465,-0.015646,-0.011995,-0.003041,0.004902,-0.012631,0.007861,0.006306,-0.007641,-0.001325,0.008023
Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA,0.127482,0.148267,0.03469 5,-0.017442,0.043085,-0.005578,-0.002115,-0.003231,0.024952,0.051391,-0.001461,0.013488,-0.034043,-0.010184,-0.008415,0.011535,0.018515,-0.003674,0.005405,0.004377,0.003244,-0.001731,0.002588,-0.006266,-0.007544
Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA,0.133173,0.156392,0.0441 23,-0.010336,0.046778,-0.004741,0.008225,0.004154,0.023725,0.044283,-0.004222,0.01109,-0.02215,-0.011147,-0.006243,-0.006099,0.002738,-0.000127,0.004902,-0.004252,-0.009109,0.004328,-0.003081,-0.009519,-0.002874
Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany,0.12862,0.1376045,0.07 05215,0.034238,0.0481625,0.004044,0.0019975,0.0013 85,0.018509,0.019955,-0.012017,-0.0052455,-0.00944,0.0006195,0.0095685,-0.0013255,-0.005998,0.001774,0.0048395,0.0080665,0.001061,0.0 019785,-0.0006165,-0.005422,-0.0034725
Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78,0.132035,0.135065,0.04 6386,0.034238,0.036314,0.003626,0.002585,0.005769, 0.005318,0.010023,0.001299,0.011839,-0.016947,-0.015001,0.017236,0.015115,0.021513,0.005828,0.003 268,0.003252,0.006239,-0.002102,0.001109,-0.002651,-0.001676
Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119,0.121791,0.140143,0.0 5242,0.026486,0.040623,0.003068,0.001175,0.001154, 0.003477,0.017859,-0.001299,0.01124,-0.020961,-0.019818,0.01045,0.02201,0.01708,-0.0019,0.009679,0.002376,0.007986,0.003957,-0.005053,0.000964,0.008382
Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2,0.124067,0.140143,0.056 191,0.041021,0.042162,0.016455,-0.003055,0.002077,0.014112,0.018406,0.002273,0.006 744,-0.020218,-0.000413,0.011672,0.001591,-0.008996,-0.006334,0.013073,0.012631,0.006988,0.00371,0.0014 79,-0.005422,-0.00467
Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116,0.126344,0.140143 ,0.052797,0.019703,0.044624,0.001673,0.00282,0.008 307,0.018816,0.019681,-0.000487,0.005845,-0.013528,-0.010459,0.009365,0.003447,-0.000391,0,0.000628,-0.004752,0.002246,0.002597,-0.006286,-0.000964,0.00455
Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d,0.127482,0.1563 92,0.047894,0.005491,0.04647,-0.011435,0.00329,0.011538,0.010022,0.031345,0.0064 96,0.012889,-0.012487,-0.01156,-0.0095,0.000796,0.001565,-0.003801,-0.005656,0.005753,-0.002995,0.009521,-0.001356,-0.006386,-0.011855


For my samples this either inflates Celtic ancestry or Germanic. Oddly for me next to nothing changes.

I'd say your original results are consistent with other British Islanders I've tested.

Cernunnos
12-29-2020, 12:13 AM
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 2.8406% / 0.02840614 | ADC: 0.5x RC
80.2 Germanic
19.8 Celtic

When you are Irish and you find out you are more Germanic than Celtic.... xD

TeutonicBoyars
12-29-2020, 12:17 AM
There's no way I'm 60% Slavic and 35% Roman and Celtic. More like 70-75% Paleo-Balkan and 25-30% Slavic.

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 2.0659% / 0.02065884 | ADC: 0.25x
59.8 Slavic
34.6 Roman
5.2 Celtic
0.4 Paleo-Balkan

Distance to: Chris_scaled
0.05276191 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.05793308 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.06089640 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.06169830 Slavic:Ukrainian
0.06237788 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.06436128 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.06460993 Slavic:Sorb
0.06469257 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.06477653 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.06530590 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.06736393 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.07069966 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.07439019 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.07515774 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.07556287 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.07932392 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.08869093 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.08944316 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.11703826 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial

I apologize. In my experience it's extremely difficult for me to find samples that represent Hungarians. The CZE_Early_Slav sample seems to plot pretty close to modern Hungarians, so maybe if you just consider your Slavic score to represent broadly central-eastern European it's a good result.

Gallop
12-29-2020, 12:22 AM
Distance: 2.8888% / 0.02888817
Target: Gallop_scaled | ADC: 0.25x RC
83.5 Roman
16.5 Celtic

Distance: 2.8888% / 0.02888817
Target: Gallop_scaled
54.0 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
17.8 Roman:DEU_Roman
14.5 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
11.7 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
2.0 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d



Distance to: Gallop_scaled
0.03343290 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.03685931 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.04191659 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.04723705 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.04744565 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.05082896 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.05701638 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.05921644 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.06031653 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.06091253 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.06253935 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.06458825 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.08151249 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.09186500 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.09586523 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.09665615 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.10911774 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.10963740 Slavic:Sorb
0.11387869 Slavic:Ukrainian

TeutonicBoyars
12-29-2020, 12:22 AM
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 2.8406% / 0.02840614 | ADC: 0.5x RC
80.2 Germanic
19.8 Celtic

Definitely an outlier, although I haven't had many British samples to work with. Hoping I can get more in this thread.

TeutonicBoyars
12-29-2020, 12:23 AM
Distance: 2.8888% / 0.02888817
Target: Gallop_scaled | ADC: 0.25x RC
83.5 Roman
16.5 Celtic

Distance: 2.8888% / 0.02888817
Target: Gallop_scaled
54.0 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
17.8 Roman:DEU_Roman
14.5 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
11.7 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
2.0 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d



Distance to: Gallop_scaled
0.03343290 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.03685931 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.04191659 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.04723705 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.04744565 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.05082896 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.05701638 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.05921644 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.06031653 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.06091253 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.06253935 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.06458825 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.08151249 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.09186500 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.09586523 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.09665615 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.10911774 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.10963740 Slavic:Sorb
0.11387869 Slavic:Ukrainian

I'm happy to see Iberians are getting a pretty consistent and mostly sensible result.

Grace O'Malley
12-29-2020, 12:24 AM
For my samples this either inflates Celtic ancestry or Germanic. Oddly for me next to nothing changes.

I'd say your original results are consistent with other British Islanders I've tested.

He's an American with some French or German ancestry as well. I don't think British Islanders will match with Hallstatt very well for example.

It remains to be seen how much Continental Celtic has influenced Isles populations. There is some speculation that English (especially Southeast English) might have more Continental Celtic input than the traditional Insular Celts. I know, ironic isn't it? :)

gixajo
12-29-2020, 12:34 AM
The Celtic samples are Continental so why I get a low result.


---ial

Sorry, but The g25 has discovered your lie, British islanders are actually Germans, and the unique and inimitable Celts are us.:p

And Italians are not ROmans, we are also the authentic Romans...:eek:


Distance: 2.7330% / 0.02733039
Target: Cernunnos_scaled
64.0 Roman
36.0 Celtic

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.9119% / 0.01911852 | ADC: 0.25x
75.4 Roman
24.6 Celtic

Grace O'Malley
12-29-2020, 12:41 AM
Definitely an outlier, although I haven't had many British samples to work with. Hoping I can get more in this thread.

Much the same as the Irish average.

Target: Irish
Distance: 2.1138% / 0.02113842 | ADC: 0.5x RC
80.0 Germanic
20.0 Celtic


Target: Irish
Distance: 2.1094% / 0.02109434 | ADC: 0.25x RC
79.6 Germanic
18.0 Celtic
2.4 Roman

Target: Irish
Distance: 2.1094% / 0.02109434
79.6 Germanic
18.0 Celtic
2.4 Roman

Looking at other Isles pops.

Target: English_Cornwall
Distance: 1.5966% / 0.01596603
73.8 Germanic
17.0 Roman
9.2 Celtic

Target: English_Cornwall
Distance: 1.6004% / 0.01600356 | ADC: 0.25x RC
74.4 Germanic
16.0 Roman
9.6 Celtic

Target: English_Cornwall
Distance: 1.6004% / 0.01600356 | ADC: 0.5x RC
74.4 Germanic
16.0 Roman
9.6 Celtic


Target: English
Distance: 1.4739% / 0.01473856
76.2 Germanic
12.4 Roman
11.4 Celtic


Target: English
Distance: 1.4739% / 0.01473920 | ADC: 0.25x RC
76.4 Germanic
12.4 Roman
11.2 Celtic



Target: English
Distance: 1.4739% / 0.01473920 | ADC: 0.5x RC
76.4 Germanic
12.4 Roman
11.2 Celtic

Target: Welsh
Distance: 1.4729% / 0.01472950
69.4 Germanic
19.2 Celtic
11.4 Roman


Target: Welsh
Distance: 1.4762% / 0.01476196 | ADC: 0.25x RC
70.0 Germanic
19.6 Celtic
10.4 Roman



Target: Welsh
Distance: 1.5078% / 0.01507832 | ADC: 0.5x RC
64.8 Germanic
35.2 Celtic

Target: Scottish
Distance: 1.6196% / 0.01619557
80.2 Germanic
13.0 Celtic
6.8 Roman

Target: Scottish
Distance: 1.6247% / 0.01624696 | ADC: 0.25x RC
81.4 Germanic
12.8 Celtic
5.8 Roman

Target: Scottish
Distance: 1.6247% / 0.01624696 | ADC: 0.5x RC
81.4 Germanic
12.8 Celtic
5.8 Roman

Luso
12-29-2020, 12:42 AM
Of all worlds

Target: Luso_scaled
Distance: 3.7033% / 0.03703337
72.6 Roman
21.0 Celtic
6.4 Germanic

Target: Luso_scaled
Distance: 3.7176% / 0.03717573 | ADC: 0.5x RC
69.8 Roman
30.2 Celtic

J. Ketch
12-29-2020, 12:46 AM
An endeavour that's been tried and failed many times before. Bronze Age British/Irish ancestry will always come up as Germanic rather than Continental Celtic.

Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 2.4517% / 0.02451747 | ADC: 0.25x RC
92.2 Germanic
7.8 Roman

Target: CreodaMum_scaled
Distance: 2.0091% / 0.02009144 | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.4 Germanic
33.6 Celtic
4.0 Slavic

Target: CreodaDad_scaled
Distance: 2.6187% / 0.02618742 | ADC: 0.25x RC
91.6 Germanic
8.2 Roman
0.2 Celtic


Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 2.4515% / 0.02451516
92.0 Germanic
8.0 Roman

Target: CreodaMum_scaled
Distance: 2.0087% / 0.02008710
62.0 Germanic
34.0 Celtic
4.0 Slavic

Target: CreodaDad_scaled
Distance: 2.6187% / 0.02618742
91.6 Germanic
8.2 Roman
0.2 Celtic

gixajo
12-29-2020, 12:59 AM
Of all worlds

ic

Let's sing together some of our ethnicity ancestral songs:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7woEXovruc

InfamousAngel99
12-29-2020, 01:03 AM
68.8 Germanic
25.0 Celtic
4.0 Paleo-Balkan
1.2 Slavic
1.0 Roman

gixajo
12-29-2020, 01:03 AM
An endeavour that's been tried and failed many times before. Bronze Age British/Irish ancestry will always come up as Germanic rather than Continental Celtic.
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It's okay, don´t worry, drink some schnapps, pair it with some bradwurst and everything will look like a nightmare tomorrow, Helmut.

TeutonicBoyars
12-29-2020, 01:04 AM
An endeavour that's been tried and failed many times before. Bronze Age British/Irish ancestry will always come up as Germanic rather than Continental Celtic.

Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 2.4517% / 0.02451747 | ADC: 0.25x RC
92.2 Germanic
7.8 Roman

Target: CreodaMum_scaled
Distance: 2.0091% / 0.02009144 | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.4 Germanic
33.6 Celtic
4.0 Slavic

Target: CreodaDad_scaled
Distance: 2.6187% / 0.02618742 | ADC: 0.25x RC
91.6 Germanic
8.2 Roman
0.2 Celtic


Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 2.4515% / 0.02451516
92.0 Germanic
8.0 Roman

Target: CreodaMum_scaled
Distance: 2.0087% / 0.02008710
62.0 Germanic
34.0 Celtic
4.0 Slavic

Target: CreodaDad_scaled
Distance: 2.6187% / 0.02618742
91.6 Germanic
8.2 Roman
0.2 Celtic

For your mother it looks okay - is she fully English? I was excited about this calc because for a lot of British individuals I tested they were getting scores that seemed broadly consistent with historic BI migrations. There was even one English kit that was around 60% Celtic and 40% Germanic, which seemed consistent with the one of the more recent studies that suggest English are around 35-40% Anglo Saxon. I may have to try mixing ancient samples with modern ones as I did with the Slavic samples.

Luso
12-29-2020, 01:08 AM
I got the highest distance so I don’t think it fits me so well as the other Iberians! Or it means I am more southernly than my fellow Iberians. I will take Roman though

Vid Flumina
12-29-2020, 01:11 AM
Target: VFlumina_scaled
Distance: 2.0840% / 0.02084020
47.8 Celtic
37.2 Roman
8.8 Slavic
6.2 Germanic

J. Ketch
12-29-2020, 01:22 AM
For your mother it looks okay - is she fully English? I was excited about this calc because for a lot of British individuals I tested they were getting scores that seemed broadly consistent with historic BI migrations. There was even one English kit that was around 60% Celtic and 40% Germanic, which seemed consistent with the one of the more recent studies that suggest English are around 35-40% Anglo Saxon. I may have to try mixing ancient samples with modern ones as I did with the Slavic samples.Yes she is. 62% representing Germanic+British BA, 4% Slavic added to Germanic, and 33% Continental Celtic could be realistic, but who knows. I think there's only so much you can glean from G25 right now regarding NW Euro migrations, there needs to be more samples from different places and times, hopefully we'll be getting that in the next year.

someonenotyou
12-29-2020, 01:50 AM
Target:
Distance: 1.6188% / 0.01618846 | ADC: 0.25x
34.0 Slavic
33.4 Germanic
14.6 Paleo-Balkan
10.8 Roman
7.2 Celtic

Target:
Distance: 1.9402% / 0.01940195 | ADC: 0.5x
37.2 Germanic
33.4 Slavic
18.0 Paleo-Balkan
7.2 Celtic
4.2 Roman

Distance to:
0.04141244 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.04538462 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.04716423 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.05016450 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.05076054 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.05218002 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.05345167 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.05581748 Slavic:Ukrainian
0.05656112 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.05666491 Slavic:Sorb
0.05749982 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.06855337 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.06876671 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.06969199 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.07196705 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.08328167 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.08700130 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.09581490 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.12690210 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial

calxpal
12-29-2020, 02:18 AM
Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 2.4545% / 0.02454457 | ADC: 0.5x RC
28.8 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
28.2 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
21.8 Slavic:Ukrainian
13.0 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
8.2 Germanic:DEU_MA

Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 2.4100% / 0.02410030 | ADC: 0.25x RC
27.4 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
24.4 Slavic:Ukrainian
21.8 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
10.8 Germanic:DEU_MA
10.0 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
3.2 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
2.4 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial

Distance to: cpalscaled
0.03830211 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.04450023 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.04574949 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.04766961 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.04866976 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.05185374 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.05292540 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.05376888 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.05694816 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.05979855 Slavic:Sorb
0.06136612 Slavic:Ukrainian
0.06815255 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.07056659 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.07109879 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.08497456 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.08774847 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.09395006 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.09690536 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.13934307 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial

Quite good results I think :)

TeutonicBoyars
12-29-2020, 02:55 AM
Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 2.4545% / 0.02454457 | ADC: 0.5x RC
28.8 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
28.2 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
21.8 Slavic:Ukrainian
13.0 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
8.2 Germanic:DEU_MA

Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 2.4100% / 0.02410030 | ADC: 0.25x RC
27.4 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
24.4 Slavic:Ukrainian
21.8 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
10.8 Germanic:DEU_MA
10.0 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
3.2 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
2.4 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial

Distance to: cpalscaled
0.03830211 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.04450023 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.04574949 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.04766961 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.04866976 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.05185374 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.05292540 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.05376888 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.05694816 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.05979855 Slavic:Sorb
0.06136612 Slavic:Ukrainian
0.06815255 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.07056659 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.07109879 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.08497456 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.08774847 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.09395006 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.09690536 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.13934307 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial

I think you might have copied the code wrong, but regardless, this still looks pretty good and more along the lines of what I got with other Anglos! Obviously the 21,8 + 13% Slavic accounts for your Ukrainian heritage while the Celtic samples would make up your remaining British and Irish (and French) admixture. Thanks for posting!

Grace O'Malley
12-29-2020, 03:23 AM
I think you might have copied the code wrong, but regardless, this still looks pretty good and more along the lines of what I got with other Anglos! Obviously the 21,8 + 13% Slavic accounts for your Ukrainian heritage while the Celtic samples would make up your remaining British and Irish (and French) admixture. Thanks for posting!

It's erroneous to say those Celtic components represent British & Irish admixture though as they don't. You would need Bronze Age British samples to represent actual British & Irish.


England_CA_EBA,0.124636,0.125926,0.061576,0.062106 ,0.031134,0.019724,0.004296,0.004654,-0.000216,-0.004323,-0.004872,0.005928,-0.011678,-0.015398,0.025123,0.010342,-0.003593,0.000718,0.002905,0.006107,0.005359,0.002 899,-0.000383,0.003294,-0.001058
England_EMBA,0.125205,0.129988,0.060716,0.06137,0. 029236,0.020359,0.012691,0.002077,0.002659,-0.005103,-0.002273,0.003447,-0.010406,-0.01445,0.029587,-0.005834,-0.020601,0.008868,0.003017,0.001,0.002371,-0.001484,-0.008134,0.008435,0.003832
England_IA,0.13175,0.130749,0.060151,0.048046,0.03 5083,0.02015,0.004818,0.003692,0.004244,0.004191,-0.004425,0.005732,-0.010518,-0.018476,0.018017,0.010044,0.001206,-6.3e-05,0.003331,0.003908,0.003899,0.000247,-0.001202,0.011417,0.000449
England_LBA,0.119514,0.116786,0.056945,0.05814,0.0 31698,0.018686,0.00235,-0.003461,0.004909,-0.00656,-0.006496,0.003447,-0.025718,-0.004817,0.019544,0.02148,0.00352,-0.000253,-0.000126,0.006128,0.005989,-0.00272,-0.001602,0.012291,-0.004311
England_MBA,0.127013,0.129092,0.063068,0.059755,0. 034178,0.019916,0.001493,0.004927,0.004596,-0.001394,-0.004738,0.003967,-0.01115,-0.015657,0.024677,0.009157,-0.005952,0.00307,0.000983,0.003987,0.004698,0.0047 13,-0.000638,0.005834,-0.001205
England_Roman,0.127482,0.136806,0.059585,0.049465, 0.03715,0.017052,0.003659,0.005241,0.003009,0.0031 5,-0.005382,0.007108,-0.014208,-0.01276,0.021967,0.001762,-0.008382,0.001122,0.003951,0.003805,0.005259,0.001 661,-0.003504,0.007195,-0.000239
England_Saxon,0.132462,0.13405,0.063875,0.056929,0 .041162,0.020568,0.006257,0.006894,0.003988,-0.002415,-0.004933,0.004552,-0.009291,-0.012455,0.024243,0.011237,-0.00308,0.001504,0.005201,0.006659,0.005334,0.0024 73,-0.001648,0.016644,-0.000868

This is what I get using 0.5 with these samples added.

Target: Grace
Distance: 0.9439% / 0.00943869 | ADC: 0.5x RC
63.0 England_Roman
21.8 England_Saxon
15.2 Germanic

I think Creoda might be better at suggesting some samples but Continental Celtic is definitely not representing British & Irish ancestry. It represents Continental Celtic ancestry.

Grace O'Malley
12-29-2020, 03:39 AM
Here are the populations closest to the Celtic samples.

Distance to: Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.03516374 French_Nord
0.03563729 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03706400 French_Occitanie
0.03712202 German
0.03717849 French_Alsace
0.03789837 French_Paris
0.03797138 Belgian
0.03847557 French_Brittany
0.03975828 Swiss_German
0.03995990 Austrian
0.04053974 French_Auvergne
0.04088379 English_Cornwall
0.04119886 Welsh
0.04175909 English
0.04182437 Afrikaner
0.04341866 Orcadian
0.04425152 German_East
0.04447228 Dutch
0.04452922 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04483823 Scottish
0.04690719 Danish
0.04750609 French_South
0.04761147 Hungarian
0.04839793 Slovenian
0.04850793 Spanish_Barcelones

Distance to: Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.03578068 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03688125 Belgian
0.03730242 French_Paris
0.03738275 French_Nord
0.03808579 Swiss_German
0.03947812 French_Alsace
0.03948949 Swiss_French
0.04016413 French_Brittany
0.04165617 French_Occitanie
0.04246780 Afrikaner
0.04249170 German
0.04311261 Welsh
0.04313775 French_Auvergne
0.04320163 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04391177 Austrian
0.04497953 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.04632472 English
0.04652079 French_Provence
0.04772250 Dutch
0.04792586 English_Cornwall
0.04860414 Scottish
0.04926850 Irish
0.04938520 Orcadian
0.04972599 Spanish_Penedes
0.05098811 Spanish_Soria

Distance to: Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.03649465 Swiss_French
0.03675682 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03694349 French_Paris
0.03842276 French_Occitanie
0.03857627 Belgian
0.03883154 French_Auvergne
0.03887064 French_Nord
0.03929073 Swiss_German
0.04009858 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.04090527 French_Alsace
0.04185605 Spanish_Soria
0.04295082 French_Provence
0.04425606 French_Brittany
0.04459329 Spanish_Penedes
0.04579596 Spanish_Girona
0.04680678 Afrikaner
0.04694587 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.04815882 Welsh
0.04824686 German
0.04829523 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.04832779 Spanish_Castello
0.04836156 Spanish_Mallorca
0.04854016 Spanish_Lleida
0.04902831 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.04933473 Spanish_Cataluna

Distance to: Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.03421693 French_Nord
0.03460446 French_Brittany
0.03576510 English_Cornwall
0.03614075 Belgian
0.03623670 Welsh
0.03636605 Swiss_German
0.03642953 Afrikaner
0.03679402 German
0.03702581 French_Alsace
0.03772163 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03790260 English
0.03849104 French_Occitanie
0.03864454 French_Paris
0.03898617 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04001803 Orcadian
0.04116193 Scottish
0.04153263 Dutch
0.04161238 French_Auvergne
0.04266026 Austrian
0.04403283 Irish
0.04433609 Danish
0.04572108 Swiss_French
0.04624246 German_East
0.04753542 Icelandic
0.04834411 Shetlandic

Distance to: Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.01405442 French_Occitanie
0.01584324 French_Auvergne
0.02181855 Swiss_German
0.02230755 French_Paris
0.02304645 French_Nord
0.02347052 Swiss_French
0.02392994 French_Alsace
0.02526096 Spanish_Barcelones
0.02589937 Spanish_Penedes
0.02606783 Belgian
0.02696674 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.02728569 Spanish_Girona
0.02757475 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.02785181 Spanish_Lleida
0.02790353 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.02841337 French_Provence
0.02846896 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.02903884 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.02941762 Spanish_Cataluna
0.02975133 Spanish_Pirineu
0.02999590 Spanish_Cantabria
0.03015820 Spanish_Mallorca
0.03097957 French_South
0.03108102 Spanish_Castello
0.03281070 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre

Distance to: Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.03577707 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.03595198 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.03595973 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.03660923 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.03672049 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.03673364 Spanish_Mallorca
0.03684493 Spanish_Baleares
0.03710794 Spanish_Pirineu
0.03721960 Spanish_Girona
0.03737691 Spanish_Lleida
0.03746860 Spanish_Menorca
0.03868265 French_Auvergne
0.03917864 Spanish_Barcelones
0.03920443 Spanish_Cantabria
0.03938246 Spanish_Penedes
0.03944746 Spanish_Eivissa
0.03995945 Spanish_Castello
0.03997771 Italian_Veneto
0.04049082 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.04058347 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.04072658 Swiss_French
0.04075304 French_Provence
0.04110895 French_Occitanie
0.04117458 Spanish_Valencia
0.04124903 Spanish_Aragon

You can see why an Irish person wouldn't get much of this in their breakdown and more Continental Europeans would have a higher percentage.

alnortedelsur
12-29-2020, 04:18 AM
I got the highest distance so I don’t think it fits me so well as the other Iberians! Or it means I am more southernly than my fellow Iberians. I will take Roman though

Don't worry, I get more distances than you. I guess, because I'm not fully European.

MandM
12-29-2020, 04:36 AM
Target: Milenko_scaled
Distance: 2.0661% / 0.02066112 | ADC: 0.5x RC
51.2 Slavic
31.0 Roman
17.8 Celtic

Target: Milenko_scaled
Distance: 2.0195% / 0.02019456 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.4 Slavic
40.6 Roman
6.0 Celtic

Distance to: Milenko_scaled
0.05757183 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.05841800 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.05958367 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.06314450 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.06392919 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.06471300 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.06638976 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.06816514 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.06987433 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.07026102 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.07037949 Slavic:Ukrainian
0.07150198 Slavic:Sorb
0.07394372 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.07586432 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.07849891 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.07969111 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.08630432 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.08631943 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.10724711 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial

oszkar07
12-29-2020, 07:57 AM
Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.9608% / 0.01960811 | ADC: 0.5x RC
39.0 Germanic
27.8 Slavic
16.6 Celtic
16.6 Paleo-Balkan

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.9187% / 0.01918679 | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.0 Germanic
25.0 Slavic
18.2 Paleo-Balkan
17.8 Celtic

With England Samples added by Grace.


Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.8380% / 0.01838015 | ADC: 0.25x RC
30.0 Slavic
21.8 England_EMBA
19.4 Celtic
19.2 Paleo-Balkan
9.6 Germanic

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.9608% / 0.01960811 | ADC: 0.5x RC
39.0 Germanic
27.8 Slavic
16.6 Celtic
16.6 Paleo-Balkan

paradox
12-29-2020, 07:58 AM
Distance: 1.8262% / 0.01826209
Target: scaled | ADC: 0.5x
47.9 Roman
27.4 Slavic
24.7 Paleo-Balkan
----------------------------
My father

Distance: 2.3150% / 0.02315046
Target: Father_scaled | ADC: 0.5x
51.8 Paleo-Balkan
35.4 Slavic
12.8 Roman

TeutonicBoyars
12-29-2020, 08:55 AM
Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.9608% / 0.01960811 | ADC: 0.5x RC
39.0 Germanic
27.8 Slavic
16.6 Celtic
16.6 Paleo-Balkan

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.9187% / 0.01918679 | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.0 Germanic
25.0 Slavic
18.2 Paleo-Balkan
17.8 Celtic

With England Samples added by Grace.


Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.8380% / 0.01838015 | ADC: 0.25x RC
30.0 Slavic
21.8 England_EMBA
19.4 Celtic
19.2 Paleo-Balkan
9.6 Germanic

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.9608% / 0.01960811 | ADC: 0.5x RC
39.0 Germanic
27.8 Slavic
16.6 Celtic
16.6 Paleo-Balkan

Seems reasonably accurate for you - I'm pleased it could give a broad representation of your Hungarian ancestry.

Some people might want to try this calculator while disabling recalculating. It has produced some more sound results for some.

Defcon2
12-29-2020, 10:36 AM
Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 3.7868% / 0.03786841
95.0 Roman
5.0 Germanic


Distance to: Juan_scaled
0.04351907 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.04762757 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.04869405 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.05423292 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.05609784 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.05880485 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.05963867 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.06309999 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.07430844 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.07465479 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.07635240 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.08281672 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.09005935 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.10306458 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.10312515 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.10542192 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.10784619 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.11827189 Slavic:Sorb
0.12199332 Slavic:Ukrainian

RyoHazuki
12-29-2020, 05:40 PM
Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 2.6552% / 0.02655158 | ADC: 0.25x RC
78.0 Germanic
22.0 Roman

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 2.6552% / 0.02655158 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.8 Germanic:DEU_MA
32.2 Germanic:SWE_IA
11.4 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
10.6 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA

RyoHazuki
12-29-2020, 05:47 PM
It's erroneous to say those Celtic components represent British & Irish admixture though as they don't. You would need Bronze Age British samples to represent actual British & Irish.


England_CA_EBA,0.124636,0.125926,0.061576,0.062106 ,0.031134,0.019724,0.004296,0.004654,-0.000216,-0.004323,-0.004872,0.005928,-0.011678,-0.015398,0.025123,0.010342,-0.003593,0.000718,0.002905,0.006107,0.005359,0.002 899,-0.000383,0.003294,-0.001058
England_EMBA,0.125205,0.129988,0.060716,0.06137,0. 029236,0.020359,0.012691,0.002077,0.002659,-0.005103,-0.002273,0.003447,-0.010406,-0.01445,0.029587,-0.005834,-0.020601,0.008868,0.003017,0.001,0.002371,-0.001484,-0.008134,0.008435,0.003832
England_IA,0.13175,0.130749,0.060151,0.048046,0.03 5083,0.02015,0.004818,0.003692,0.004244,0.004191,-0.004425,0.005732,-0.010518,-0.018476,0.018017,0.010044,0.001206,-6.3e-05,0.003331,0.003908,0.003899,0.000247,-0.001202,0.011417,0.000449
England_LBA,0.119514,0.116786,0.056945,0.05814,0.0 31698,0.018686,0.00235,-0.003461,0.004909,-0.00656,-0.006496,0.003447,-0.025718,-0.004817,0.019544,0.02148,0.00352,-0.000253,-0.000126,0.006128,0.005989,-0.00272,-0.001602,0.012291,-0.004311
England_MBA,0.127013,0.129092,0.063068,0.059755,0. 034178,0.019916,0.001493,0.004927,0.004596,-0.001394,-0.004738,0.003967,-0.01115,-0.015657,0.024677,0.009157,-0.005952,0.00307,0.000983,0.003987,0.004698,0.0047 13,-0.000638,0.005834,-0.001205
England_Roman,0.127482,0.136806,0.059585,0.049465, 0.03715,0.017052,0.003659,0.005241,0.003009,0.0031 5,-0.005382,0.007108,-0.014208,-0.01276,0.021967,0.001762,-0.008382,0.001122,0.003951,0.003805,0.005259,0.001 661,-0.003504,0.007195,-0.000239
England_Saxon,0.132462,0.13405,0.063875,0.056929,0 .041162,0.020568,0.006257,0.006894,0.003988,-0.002415,-0.004933,0.004552,-0.009291,-0.012455,0.024243,0.011237,-0.00308,0.001504,0.005201,0.006659,0.005334,0.0024 73,-0.001648,0.016644,-0.000868

This is what I get using 0.5 with these samples added.

Target: Grace
Distance: 0.9439% / 0.00943869 | ADC: 0.5x RC
63.0 England_Roman
21.8 England_Saxon
15.2 Germanic

I think Creoda might be better at suggesting some samples but Continental Celtic is definitely not representing British & Irish ancestry. It represents Continental Celtic ancestry.

With those ancient British samples added:

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 2.4127% / 0.02412742 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.8 England_EMBA
36.4 Germanic
22.8 Roman

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 2.4127% / 0.02412742 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.8 England_EMBA
22.0 Germanic:SWE_IA
17.6 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
14.4 Germanic:DEU_MA
5.2 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA

calxpal
12-29-2020, 06:36 PM
I think you might have copied the code wrong, but regardless, this still looks pretty good and more along the lines of what I got with other Anglos! Obviously the 21,8 + 13% Slavic accounts for your Ukrainian heritage while the Celtic samples would make up your remaining British and Irish (and French) admixture. Thanks for posting!

Thanks, I think it may look like that because I posted unaggregated results :) Here are my aggregated results

Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 2.4545% / 0.02454457 | ADC: 0.5x RC
57.0 Celtic
34.8 Slavic
8.2 Germanic

Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 2.4100% / 0.02410030 | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.2 Celtic
34.4 Slavic
10.8 Germanic
5.6 Roman

Kaspias
12-29-2020, 06:51 PM
Distance: 2.5230% / 0.02523003
Target: Kaspias_scaled
41.9 Roman
24.1 Turkic
22.7 Slavic
11.3 Celtic


Distance: 2.0910% / 0.02090995
Target: Kaspias_dad
39.3 Turkic
35.5 Roman
25.2 Celtic

IceQueen
12-29-2020, 07:15 PM
Here’s my results with the added British samples:
Distance: 2.4932% / 0.02493160
Target: IceQueen_scaled | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.7 England_EMBA
37.8 England_Roman
10.6 Germanic
8.9 Roman

andre
12-29-2020, 08:16 PM
Target: Andrei_scaled
Distance: 2.4310% / 0.02431028 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.0 Slavic
28.8 Paleo-Balkan
24.2 Roman

JamesBond007
12-29-2020, 09:09 PM
It's erroneous to say those Celtic components represent British & Irish admixture though as they don't. You would need Bronze Age British samples to represent actual British & Irish.


England_CA_EBA,0.124636,0.125926,0.061576,0.062106 ,0.031134,0.019724,0.004296,0.004654,-0.000216,-0.004323,-0.004872,0.005928,-0.011678,-0.015398,0.025123,0.010342,-0.003593,0.000718,0.002905,0.006107,0.005359,0.002 899,-0.000383,0.003294,-0.001058
England_EMBA,0.125205,0.129988,0.060716,0.06137,0. 029236,0.020359,0.012691,0.002077,0.002659,-0.005103,-0.002273,0.003447,-0.010406,-0.01445,0.029587,-0.005834,-0.020601,0.008868,0.003017,0.001,0.002371,-0.001484,-0.008134,0.008435,0.003832
England_IA,0.13175,0.130749,0.060151,0.048046,0.03 5083,0.02015,0.004818,0.003692,0.004244,0.004191,-0.004425,0.005732,-0.010518,-0.018476,0.018017,0.010044,0.001206,-6.3e-05,0.003331,0.003908,0.003899,0.000247,-0.001202,0.011417,0.000449
England_LBA,0.119514,0.116786,0.056945,0.05814,0.0 31698,0.018686,0.00235,-0.003461,0.004909,-0.00656,-0.006496,0.003447,-0.025718,-0.004817,0.019544,0.02148,0.00352,-0.000253,-0.000126,0.006128,0.005989,-0.00272,-0.001602,0.012291,-0.004311
England_MBA,0.127013,0.129092,0.063068,0.059755,0. 034178,0.019916,0.001493,0.004927,0.004596,-0.001394,-0.004738,0.003967,-0.01115,-0.015657,0.024677,0.009157,-0.005952,0.00307,0.000983,0.003987,0.004698,0.0047 13,-0.000638,0.005834,-0.001205
England_Roman,0.127482,0.136806,0.059585,0.049465, 0.03715,0.017052,0.003659,0.005241,0.003009,0.0031 5,-0.005382,0.007108,-0.014208,-0.01276,0.021967,0.001762,-0.008382,0.001122,0.003951,0.003805,0.005259,0.001 661,-0.003504,0.007195,-0.000239
England_Saxon,0.132462,0.13405,0.063875,0.056929,0 .041162,0.020568,0.006257,0.006894,0.003988,-0.002415,-0.004933,0.004552,-0.009291,-0.012455,0.024243,0.011237,-0.00308,0.001504,0.005201,0.006659,0.005334,0.0024 73,-0.001648,0.016644,-0.000868

This is what I get using 0.5 with these samples added.

Target: Grace
Distance: 0.9439% / 0.00943869 | ADC: 0.5x RC
63.0 England_Roman
21.8 England_Saxon
15.2 Germanic

I think Creoda might be better at suggesting some samples but Continental Celtic is definitely not representing British & Irish ancestry. It represents Continental Celtic ancestry.

At this point we are creating a frankenstein calculator. The whole concept of this calculator is flawed since it used at least one bronze age sample as only Iron Age and medieval age samples should be used to infer modern ethnicity. England Iron age is sufficient for British Celtic and English Anglo-Saxon I think has some samples that were mixed with British celts like modern British people so some individual samples would be ideal instead but I'm not sure.

At the end of the day not to highjack the thread but Davidski modeled the British isles pretty well here. A newer more vetted version might be able to be made with new viking samples. Even with less than ideal samples it seems more or less correct. This is how it is done you take Iron age and medeival age samples or you focus on one such period like here you don't just go throwing in Denmark Bronze Age willy nilly style etc... :

My results :

Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 2.0805% / 0.02080509
64.0 England_Saxon
34.0 England_Roman
2.0 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna




England_Roman:3DT16,0.126344,0.14319,0.065619,0.05 7171,0.038469,0.021196,0.00141,-0.001154,0.008385,0.009659,0.003248,0.002997,-0.012785,-0.009358,0.014115,0.001061,-0.007953,0.003041,0.002011,-0.006753,0.005865,0.005935,-0.001479,0.007953,-0.000479
England_Roman:6DT18,0.125205,0.142174,0.058454,0.0 50388,0.046162,0.021196,0.0047,0.008538,-0.000818,0.005103,0.000487,0.012589,-0.017393,-0.020368,0.023887,0.006762,-0.005346,-0.003041,0.012444,0.001,0.007986,0.000866,-0.00419,0.013857,-0.003353
England_Roman:6DT21,0.126344,0.12491,0.061471,0.04 7804,0.027697,0.013945,0.005405,0.009923,-0.00225,-0.000911,-0.019487,0.012589,-0.011447,-0.007707,0.019951,0.006099,-0.008345,-0.003927,0.002765,0.003752,0.002246,0.001237,0.003 697,0.002289,-0.001317
England_Roman:6DT22,0.125205,0.140143,0.061094,0.0 45866,0.038776,0.014223,0.004935,0.005077,0.003068 ,0.000729,-0.004872,0.001349,-0.01115,-0.016928,0.016015,0.000796,0.000652,0.003927,0.006 159,0,0.003993,0.005441,-0.011462,-0.00012,-0.000359
England_Roman:6DT23,0.126344,0.141159,0.060339,0.0 46512,0.036622,0.009482,0.005405,0.008077,0.00225, 0.001458,-0.008607,0.006744,-0.016055,-0.007019,0.030944,-0.003845,-0.018906,0.004181,-0.003268,0.012506,0.004492,-0.004081,-0.010476,0.008917,-0.001916
England_Roman:6DT3,0.132035,0.13405,0.058077,0.050 711,0.033237,0.029005,0.008225,0.003461,0.001023,-0.004556,-0.005034,0.005245,-0.017096,-0.005918,0.028908,-0.011403,-0.023469,0.001774,0.003142,0.006378,0.010731,0.000 124,-0.002588,0.011086,0.002874
England_Saxon:I0157,0.129758,0.140143,0.065996,0.0 59109,0.037853,0.019801,0.00752,0.007615,0.006749,-0.00656,-0.006496,0.008992,-0.009217,-0.01156,0.028908,0.007955,-0.006258,0.000253,0.008045,0.009755,0.003619,-0.003215,-0.005176,0.025666,-0.002874
England_Saxon:I0159,0.130897,0.135065,0.062979,0.0 53618,0.038161,0.023148,0.00329,0.006461,0.001023,-0.000729,-0.001299,0.006894,-0.014569,-0.010322,0.028366,0.010342,-0.007432,0.000507,0.004525,0.008254,0.001373,0.007 296,-0.005916,0.012773,0.003592
England_Saxon:I0161,0.12862,0.13405,0.061848,0.048 127,0.04647,0.020638,0.004465,0.005077,0.006749,0. 004738,-0.002436,0.004946,-0.006987,-0.012799,0.024158,0.006895,0.004563,0.0019,0.00364 5,0.005503,0.002246,-0.00272,0.006779,0.016267,0.003233
England_Saxon:I0769,0.129758,0.132019,0.070899,0.0 59432,0.044624,0.025937,0.00282,0.005538,0,-0.006743,-0.006171,0.004796,-0.012785,-0.012386,0.028366,0.0179,0.00691,-0.003674,0.006159,0.008004,0.008235,0.005193,0.000 37,0.019521,0.002036
England_Saxon:I0773,0.141141,0.126941,0.063356,0.0 71383,0.044008,0.024263,0.00799,0.011307,0.00409,-0.00656,-0.005359,0.005395,-0.01219,-0.013074,0.021172,0.011668,-0.001434,0.000887,0.008673,0.008629,0.010981,0.003 957,-0.003081,0.015544,-0.007424
England_Saxon:I0774,0.134311,0.13405,0.054305,0.05 1034,0.038161,0.014223,0.013161,0.007615,0.001227, 0.003462,-0.004709,0.002548,-0.00446,-0.008257,0.018051,0.009016,-0.01004,0.005448,0.005908,0,0.002246,0.000371,0.00 0863,0.016267,-0.00467
England_Saxon:I0777,0.135449,0.136081,0.063356,0.0 50388,0.040315,0.019522,0.006345,0.009461,0.01084, 0.000182,-0.005196,0.001349,-0.003271,-0.020781,0.017101,0.020551,0.00326,0.002154,0.0047 77,0.008129,0.003993,0.00643,-0.00949,0.011929,-0.002754
England_Saxon:NO3423,0.129758,0.13405,0.068259,0.0 62339,0.0397,0.017012,0.004465,0.002077,0.001227,-0.007107,-0.007795,0.001499,-0.010852,-0.010459,0.027823,0.005569,-0.014212,0.004561,-0.000126,0.005002,0.009982,0.002473,0.002465,0.015 183,0.001916
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001,0.133173,0.125926 ,0.076933,0.061047,0.041238,0.021196,0.002585,0.00 6461,0.000205,-0.012028,-0.000974,0.004046,-0.000297,-0.006331,0.018051,0.013259,0.009648,0.001647,-0.000754,0.00075,0.002371,0.000371,0.005176,0.0128 93,0.001437
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84005,0.127482,0.120848 ,0.072784,0.070414,0.042777,0.031794,0.00611,0.014 307,0.009817,-0.022051,-0.001461,-0.001349,0.00892,0.012386,0.012893,-0.007558,-0.01708,0.002027,0.00176,0.001626,0.001497,0.00507 ,0.006902,-0.000241,0.00467
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_97002,0.129758,0.140143 ,0.05242,0.04845,0.045855,0.014781,0.00141,0.00207 7,-0.006954,-0.014943,-0.013641,0.001349,-0.012933,-0.001514,0.001629,0.009016,0.000782,0.001267,0.000 377,-0.006878,-0.00262,-0.006306,-0.002218,0.010001,0.000838
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt035,0.130897,0.13608 1,0.07203,0.047158,0.036622,0.019801,0.00188,0.004 154,0.009613,-0.000547,-0.007795,0.001499,-0.011893,-0.01101,0.022937,0.002387,-0.001695,0.004561,-0.004651,0,0.006364,0.002473,0.001972,0.007109,0.0 02036
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt036,0.132035,0.13303 4,0.065996,0.056202,0.0437,0.02008,0.004935,0.0119 99,0.006954,-0.012757,-0.003248,-0.002248,0.00223,-0.001789,0.002172,0.001591,-0.001956,0.001774,0.006159,0.005878,-0.007237,0.005935,0.003574,0.002048,0.003233
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_gtm021,0.121791,0.11881 7,0.081081,0.067184,0.045239,0.023427,0.00752,0.01 2692,-0.005113,-0.014214,0.000487,0.002398,0.007433,0.001239,0.015 608,0.00305,-0.011474,0.001267,-0.002765,0.003502,0.01123,0.004822,0.00037,0.00879 6,-0.002275
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006,0.133173,0.09444 4,0.085229,0.092701,0.038776,0.032909,0.017861,0.0 15922,0.004909,-0.038087,-0.001137,-0.012439,0.018137,0.016652,-0.002714,0.005701,0.001173,0.003167,0.005656,0.006 378,0.007112,-0.004575,0.011216,-0.001084,0.001437
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_kls001,0.125205,0.12084 8,0.075047,0.058786,0.040623,0.026774,0.00658,0.01 9153,0.00859,0.000911,-0.007145,-0.000899,-0.016501,-0.007432,0.022258,0.0118,-0.003651,-0.011275,0.013827,0.010255,0.012478,0.021268,-0.017131,0.012532,0.008502
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_nuf002,0.122929,0.13811 2,0.061848,0.047158,0.044316,0.012829,0.0094,-0.002538,0.007976,-0.008565,0.007632,0.016785,-0.006095,0.006331,0.024701,-0.004773,-0.022035,0.014062,0.008045,0.008129,0.006114,0.006 183,-0.009367,0.002771,-0.010658
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg020,0.126344,0.11678 6,0.086361,0.0969,0.02462,0.021753,0.00423,0.01315 3,0.001023,-0.030798,0.007795,0.002698,0.009217,0.006331,-0.000271,0.023999,0.001825,-0.009375,0.004777,0.006628,0.000749,-0.003215,0.012078,0.002169,-0.007784
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg021,0.125205,0.12287 9,0.065242,0.053295,0.041854,0.027889,0.00564,0.00 3461,0.005113,-0.002551,-0.007145,0.005695,-0.007582,-0.009771,0.012758,-0.008884,-0.017993,0.001394,0.007039,0.006253,-0.001996,0.005812,-0.002218,0.004097,0.001796
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026,0.125205,0.12897 2,0.077687,0.070737,0.04647,0.024542,0.00987,0.009 461,-0.000818,-0.010752,0.003897,0.004346,-0.002676,0.005092,0.004072,0.010872,0.001825,0.005 068,0.004777,0.004627,0.006738,0.000618,-0.000986,0.010483,0.000599
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm035,0.117238,0.12694 1,0.079195,0.070091,0.039084,0.032072,0.00047,0.01 5692,0.011044,-0.021504,-0.003248,-0.001499,0.013825,0.007432,0.016151,0.016043,0.010 17,0.005448,0.003142,0.009505,0.005615,0.007419,0. 002588,0.016026,-0.002515
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160,0.125205,0.12186 4,0.076933,0.068153,0.041238,0.02761,0.008225,0.01 6615,-0.000818,-0.017312,0.003897,-0.004646,0.002973,0.009634,0.0076,0.006629,0.01225 6,-0.00038,0.000503,-0.004377,0.007861,0.000371,0.003697,0.010845,0.003 113

My original from this thread :

Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 2.4894% / 0.02489366
56.0 Germanic
44.0 Celtic

I get a closer distance with the British isles calculator from Davidski !


Anyway, you want a multi-ethnic one ? It has already been done but it is bit more multi-culti. Is it perfect ? Nothing made by man is :

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?338043-G25-modified-IronAge-Medeival-calculator

The original one here :

http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/Nicola-Iron-Age.htm

calxpal
12-29-2020, 11:47 PM
With the ancient British samples....

Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 2.1371% / 0.02137059 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.2 England_IA
29.0 Slavic
15.0 Celtic
12.8 Roman

Non-aggregated

Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 2.1371% / 0.02137059 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.2 England_IA
21.4 Slavic:Ukrainian
9.4 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
7.8 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
7.6 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
5.6 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
5.0 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial


W/O recalculating

Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 2.1612% / 0.02161166 | ADC: 0.25x
43.0 England_IA
28.2 Slavic
19.6 Celtic
9.2 Roman

Looks quite accurate :) and the distance is lower than before :D

drb234
05-21-2022, 10:50 AM
with ancient brit samples:

Target: drb_scaled
Distance: 1.6090% / 0.01609045 | ADC: 0.5x RC
57.4 England_Saxon
42.6 Celtic

Target: drb_scaled
Distance: 1.5347% / 0.01534742 | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.6 England_Saxon
27.2 Celtic
9.0 Roman
6.2 Slavic

Target: drb_scaled
Distance: 1.5328% / 0.01532760
56.0 England_Saxon
24.0 Celtic
11.6 Roman
7.6 Slavic
0.8 England_LBA


i would lump slavic in with germanic, roman with celtic etc.

Gallop
05-21-2022, 12:14 PM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 2.8888% / 0.02888829
54.0 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
18.0 Roman:DEU_Roman
14.4 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
11.6 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
2.0 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 3.1435% / 0.03143512
52.4 Roman:DEU_Roman
18.4 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
9.0 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
8.8 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
8.0 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
3.4 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d

--------------------


Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 1.8932% / 0.01893158
64.0 Father_scaled
16.6 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
8.8 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
7.8 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
2.8 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial


Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.1156% / 0.02115572
70.8 Gallop_scaled
24.2 Roman:DEU_Roman
3.6 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
1.4 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial

Gallop
05-21-2022, 12:27 PM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 7.1561% / 0.07156074
79.6 England_Roman:6DT22
20.4 England_Roman:6DT23

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 7.4052% / 0.07405239
90.6 England_Roman:6DT22
9.4 England_Roman:6DT23


-------------------------

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 2.2255% / 0.02225511
91.2 Father_scaled
8.8 England_Roman:6DT3

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.3188% / 0.02318771
94.2 Gallop_scaled
5.8 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_97002

alexmegas777
05-21-2022, 01:41 PM
Target: alexmegas(Romanian)_scaled
Distance: 2.1301% / 0.02130121 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.8 Slavic
38.2 Roman
14.6 Paleo-Balkan
6.4 Celtic

Dušan
05-21-2022, 02:53 PM
Target: Dušan_scaled_K13&K15_sim
Distance: 0.8065% / 0.00806511
62.8 Slavic
34.6 Roman
2.6 Paleo-Balkan


Target: Dušan_scaled_K13&K15_sim
Distance: 0.8065% / 0.00806511
62.8 Slavic:Ukrainian
20.2 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
9.6 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
4.8 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
2.6 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA

Albertón
05-21-2022, 03:10 PM
nice thread

celticdragongod
05-22-2022, 10:25 PM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02427956 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.03203976 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.04122120 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.04814270 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.05124833 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.05458396 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.05504571 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.06120997 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.06199968 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.06705675 Slavic:Sorb
0.06912502 Slavic:Ukrainian
0.07385029 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.08293091 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.08309748 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.09370006 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.09651209 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.10026830 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.11067900 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.15893345 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.2152% / 0.02215236
48.0 Germanic:DEU_MA
28.2 Germanic:SWE_IA
13.6 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
6.2 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
4.0 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA

celticdragongod
05-22-2022, 10:28 PM
with ancient brit samples:


i would lump slavic in with germanic, roman with celtic etc.

Why?

celticdragongod
05-22-2022, 10:35 PM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02505466 England_Saxon:I0774
0.02521146 England_Saxon:I0159
0.02677443 England_Saxon:I0161
0.02774438 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt035
0.02833758 England_Saxon:I0157
0.02836776 England_Saxon:NO3423
0.02997703 England_Roman:6DT3
0.03028696 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg021
0.03087437 England_Roman:6DT18
0.03199269 England_Roman:3DT16
0.03249859 England_Roman:6DT21
0.03270508 England_Roman:6DT23
0.03615060 England_Roman:6DT22
0.03770922 England_Saxon:I0773
0.03827150 England_Saxon:I0777
0.03855419 England_Saxon:I0769
0.03911270 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt036
0.04252669 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001
0.04505565 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_nuf002
0.04570763 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_97002
0.04930677 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026
0.05021313 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_kls001
0.05119074 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_gtm021
0.05615310 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84005
0.05860202 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.5860% / 0.01585975
27.2 England_Roman:6DT3
22.2 England_Saxon:I0161
15.2 England_Saxon:I0774
10.4 England_Saxon:I0157
8.2 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt036
7.0 England_Roman:6DT21
5.0 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg021
4.2 England_Roman:6DT18
0.6 England_Roman:3DT16

celticdragongod
05-22-2022, 10:41 PM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02151614 England_Roman
0.02415237 England_Saxon
0.02683984 England_IA
0.02839264 England_MBA
0.03363919 England_CA_EBA
0.03568083 England_EMBA
0.04653578 England_LBA

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.0154% / 0.02015412
63.0 England_Roman
36.0 England_Saxon
1.0 England_EMBA

drb234
05-22-2022, 10:56 PM
Why?

because scoring slavic doesnt make sense to me i guess.

drb234
05-22-2022, 11:04 PM
Target: drb_scaled
Distance: 1.6605% / 0.01660500
50.6 England_Saxon
34.6 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
14.8 England_Roman

Distance to: drb_scaled
0.02307615 England_Saxon:I0161
0.02810254 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt035
0.02878525 England_Roman:6DT22
0.02974681 England_Saxon:I0777
0.03013960 England_Roman:6DT18
0.03143234 England_Saxon:I0774
0.03227363 England_Saxon:I0159
0.03309416 England_Roman:3DT16
0.03496423 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_97002
0.03636424 England_Saxon:I0769
0.03880148 England_Saxon:NO3423
0.03922251 England_Saxon:I0157
0.03948271 England_Roman:6DT21
0.04177259 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001
0.04205554 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt036
0.04235873 England_Roman:6DT23
0.04252220 England_Saxon:I0773
0.04473558 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg021
0.04940768 England_Roman:6DT3
0.05141988 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026
0.05221888 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_kls001
0.05671453 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_nuf002
0.05913457 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160
0.05946080 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_gtm021
0.06577028 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm035


+ all samples in thread


Distance to: drb_scaled
0.02307615 England_Saxon:I0161
0.02387674 England_IA
0.02640950 England_Roman
0.02714038 Germanic:Deutschendorf_Poprad_MA
0.02810254 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt035
0.02812216 England_Saxon
0.02878525 England_Roman:6DT22
0.02974681 England_Saxon:I0777
0.03013960 England_Roman:6DT18
0.03143234 England_Saxon:I0774
0.03227363 England_Saxon:I0159
0.03300256 England_MBA
0.03309416 England_Roman:3DT16
0.03496423 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_97002
0.03523471 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.03534875 Germanic:Norse
0.03636424 England_Saxon:I0769
0.03832271 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.03858435 England_CA_EBA
0.03880148 England_Saxon:NO3423
0.03922251 England_Saxon:I0157
0.03948271 England_Roman:6DT21
0.04050451 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.04050682 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.04170960 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119

Target: drb_scaled
Distance: 1.1261% / 0.01126136
47.6 England_Saxon
23.0 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
16.0 Celtic
13.4 Roman

Africanwidow
05-22-2022, 11:22 PM
Target: Africanwidow
Distance: 4.7851% / 0.04785146
45.6 Germanic:DEU_MA
35.6 Germanic:SWE_IA
18.8 Germanic:DNK_BA

bandoge
05-23-2022, 01:16 AM
Target: bandoge_simulated_scaled
Distance: 2.5188% / 0.02518813 | ADC: 0.25x RC
66.6 Roman
27.0 Celtic
6.4 Germanic

Target: bandoge_simulated_scaled
Distance: 2.6010% / 0.02601024 | ADC: 0.5x RC
59.0 Roman
41.0 Celtic

Magma
05-23-2022, 02:56 AM
Target: Magma_scaled
Distance: 2.4918% / 0.02491828 | ADC: 0.25x RC
81.2 Slavic
18.8 Germanic

It would be better if there were Baltic and Finnic samples too.

noricum
05-23-2022, 11:23 AM
Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.0580% / 0.02058040 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.2 Slavic
24.6 Germanic
21.0 Paleo-Balkan
6.2 Roman

Distance to: G25noricum_scaled
0.04296864 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.04341445 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.04442437 Slavic:Sorb
0.04580652 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.04591672 Slavic:Ukrainian
0.04924678 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.05438954 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.05461233 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.06639042 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.06668254 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.07365922 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.07755661 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.07789848 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.07790835 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.08345309 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.08933765 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.09401348 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.10968130 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.14556913 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial

Danjojo
09-29-2022, 08:22 PM
Gives pretty close distance

Target: DanjojoG25sim
Distance: 0.3530% / 0.00352963 | R4P
40.8 Slavic
20.6 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
20.2 Roman
18.4 England_Saxon

No Romans 5pop
Target: DanjojoG25sim
Distance: 0.4534% / 0.00453441 | R5P
38.2 Slavic
21.2 England_Saxon
19.8 Celtic
12.8 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
8.0 Paleo-Balkan

With Romans 5pop
Target: DanjojoG25sim
Distance: 0.3512% / 0.00351208 | R5P
39.4 Slavic
21.4 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
19.6 Roman
18.4 England_Saxon
1.2 Paleo-Balkan

Distance to: DanjojoG25sim
0.02341246 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt036
0.03105172 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.03206922 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.03322490 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_97002
0.03351520 England_Saxon:I0774
0.03598671 England_Roman:6DT22
0.03613615 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt035
0.03648838 England_IA
0.03740481 England_Roman
0.03752700 Slavic:Sorb
0.03799583 England_Saxon:I0161
0.03821276 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001
0.03835122 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.03854740 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg021
0.03875582 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026
0.03888519 England_Roman:3DT16
0.03914576 Slavic:Ukrainian
0.03942796 England_Saxon
0.03963501 England_Roman:6DT21
0.04122185 England_MBA
0.04174337 England_Saxon:I0777
0.04209612 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160
0.04215320 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.04371748 England_Saxon:I0159
0.04381843 England_CA_EBA

Dušan
09-29-2022, 08:40 PM
Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 0.0139% / 0.01385623
67.7 Slavic
32.3 Roman



Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 0.0139% / 0.01385623
50.3 Slavic:Ukrainian
17.4 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
17.0 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
15.3 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA

rothaer
09-29-2022, 08:59 PM
Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.5991% / 0.01599138 | ADC: 0.25x RC
51.4 Slavic
35.4 Germanic
13.2 Celtic

Target: rothaer_wife2_scaled
Distance: 2.4779% / 0.02477878 | ADC: 0.25x RC
66.0 Germanic
25.0 Slavic
9.0 Celtic

Slavic seems notably inflated for me but not for my wife. My wife usually never gets Celtic, so that's a deviation as well.

Selene
09-30-2022, 06:03 AM
Target: Nixie
Distance: 0.5820% / 0.00581969 | ADC: 0.25x RC
68.2 Slavic
14.4 Roman
12.6 Paleo-Balkan
2.8 Germanic
2.0 Celtic


Target: Nixie
Distance: 0.5820% / 0.00581969 | ADC: 0.25x RC
68.0 Slavic:Ukrainian
14.4 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
12.6 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
2.8 Germanic: DEU_MA
2.0 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.2 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav

Russki
09-30-2022, 06:19 AM
Original


https://sun9-61.userapi.com/impg/xxjHcIS9haebes1_1_endDyrAtG5GUvB_DZW3Q/-3wuMIMoktg.jpg?size=760x350&quality=95&sign=42c8b6b7d79c1ff2655a5fbecf6691e8&type=album






With Baltic, Finnish and Estonian BA/IA


https://sun1-83.userapi.com/impg/VAVWQq4FsOETDHBDRWxXN0BNH2TmXOBxq-_2Yw/IpteebGV-vU.jpg?size=760x480&quality=95&sign=85151bc43755b1f14ceee20c022857ec&type=album

Rizza
09-30-2022, 06:39 AM
Distance to: Rizza
0.03518854 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.04921250 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.05208813 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.05398872 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.05821314 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.05853594 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.05965895 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.06157737 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.06897446 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.07109245 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.07670966 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.07789737 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.07844723 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.08834846 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.08912842 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.09809367 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.10143689 Slavic:Sorb
0.10244420 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.10348662 Slavic:Ukrainian



When I removed Roman


Target: Rizza
Distance: 2.9407% / 0.02940730
77.8 Paleo-Balkan
14.2 Slavic
8.0 Celtic

Reozek
09-30-2022, 06:47 AM
Sardinians adding Nuragic BA. Basically a Nuragic-Roman mix

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220930/a9eebb2b6601e4b90e689f49ccda787a.jpg

Distances


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oszkar07
09-30-2022, 06:56 AM
Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.9187% / 0.01918679 | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.0 Germanic
25.0 Slavic
18.2 Paleo-Balkan
17.8 Celtic

Nurzat
09-30-2022, 07:19 AM
Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.7721% / 0.01772079
66.2 Slavic
28.0 Roman
4.0 Paleo-Balkan
1.8 Germanic

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.7721% / 0.01772079
60.6 Slavic:Ukrainian
18.4 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
6.6 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
5.6 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
4.0 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
3.0 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
1.8 Germanic:DNK_BA



I don't understand "Roman". they were way too mixed from the start to consider them a genetic category.

Distance to: Nurzat
0.04197996 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.05144131 Slavic:Ukrainian
0.05404992 Slavic:Sorb
0.05688101 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.05859139 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.05925845 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.06063056 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.06394723 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.06564801 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.06755546 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.06815440 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.07084270 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.07161354 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.07603706 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.07842420 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.08560646 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.09533902 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.09774448 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.12544732 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial

cakmir7y
09-30-2022, 07:23 PM
dp

cakmir7y
09-30-2022, 07:23 PM
Distance to: Mirek_scaled
0.03448705 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.03479172 Slavic:Ukrainian
0.03494506 Slavic:Sorb
0.04620281 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.04907545 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.05048703 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.05733598 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.05740532 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.05778285 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.06073028 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.06713346 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.08207239 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.08570368 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.08642415 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.09911031 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.10029877 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.10880279 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.11324126 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.15639350 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial


Target: Mirek_scaled
Distance: 1.7664% / 0.01766407 | ADC: 0.25x RC
60.6 Slavic
39.4 Celtic


Target: Mirek_scaled
Distance: 1.7663% / 0.01766296
58.2 Slavic:Ukrainian
17.8 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
16.0 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
4.8 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
2.4 Slavic:Sorb
0.8 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116

Luke35
09-30-2022, 10:50 PM
Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.9187% / 0.01918679 | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.0 Germanic
25.0 Slavic
18.2 Paleo-Balkan
17.8 Celtic

When I remove the Roman samples, pretty similar to your result:

Target: Mr.G_scaled
Distance: 0.0166% / 0.01659253
34.9 Germanic
24.7 Slavic
23.2 Paleo-Balkan
17.2 Celtic

With Roman added back:

Target: Mr.G_scaled
Distance: 0.0158% / 0.01581272
38.9 Germanic
23.3 Slavic
16.4 Celtic
13.6 Paleo-Balkan
7.8 Roman

Beo242
12-18-2022, 02:40 PM
116759

Beo242
12-18-2022, 02:41 PM
https://sun9-80.userapi.com/impg/ngzzubKueluTJa-KuOuOUzu_sbEStCt-Gga96w/vmyfYrU2VWA.jpg?size=929x310&quality=95&sign=f9a44d29c7adc11e8414e85eab0a818b&type=album

Jingle Bell
12-18-2022, 04:40 PM
Target: JingleBell_scaled
Distance: 1.8375% / 0.01837521
50.8 SSA
35.6 Roman
7.2 Celtic
3.6 Germanic
2.8 Native_American

Far_away
12-18-2022, 05:53 PM
Distance: 1.0332% / 0.01033240 | ADC: 0.5x RC
52.4 Slavic
31.6 Roman
16.0 Paleo-Balkan


Distance: 1.0076% / 0.01007629 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.4 Slavic
35.6 Roman
12.0 Paleo-Balkan

Eurafricanid
03-08-2023, 06:53 PM
Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 0.8647% / 0.00864654
47.2 Sub-Saharan_African
39.2 Roman
10.8 Celtic
2.8 Amerindian

celticdragongod
03-12-2023, 07:37 PM
118370

gixajo
03-12-2023, 07:52 PM
118370

Celtic?: ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
Celtic?: DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d

https://i.postimg.cc/VLttfz6S/celtic-PCA.png (https://postimages.org/)

Beowulf
03-12-2023, 08:10 PM
Target: Ivorix
Distance: 1.8572% / 0.01857231
50.4 Roman
43.2 Celtic
4.0 England_LBA
2.4 England_CA_EBA

RyoHazuki
03-13-2023, 06:55 AM
Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 1.2780% / 0.01277966 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.0 Germanic:DEU_MA
28.6 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
9.6 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
7.2 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
6.6 Germanic:DNK_BA

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 2.6552% / 0.02655158 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.8 Germanic:DEU_MA
32.2 Germanic:SWE_IA
11.4 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
10.6 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA

celticdragongod
03-15-2023, 10:05 PM
118441

retfala
03-24-2023, 07:03 PM
Target: retfala_scaled
Distance: 0.7237% / 0.00723674
61.8 Slavic
33.2 Roman
5.0 Paleo-Balkan

Figaro
03-24-2023, 07:06 PM
Target: CordedFather_scaled
Distance: 1.9496% / 0.01949588
67.4 Germanic
12.8 Slavic
11.4 Paleo-Balkan
4.4 Celtic
4.0 Roman

Target: CordedMother_scaled
Distance: 1.3902% / 0.01390196
58.8 Slavic
25.0 Germanic
9.4 Celtic
6.8 Roman

Dušan
03-24-2023, 07:08 PM
Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 1.3856% / 0.01385630
67.8 Slavic
32.2 Roman



Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 1.3856% / 0.01385630
50.2 Slavic:Ukrainian
17.6 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
17.0 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
15.2 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA

rothaer
03-24-2023, 07:17 PM
Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.5929% / 0.01592852
50.8 Slavic
34.8 Germanic
14.4 Celtic

Vitez
03-24-2023, 10:33 PM
Target: Vitez_scaled
Distance: 1.5575% / 0.01557506 | ADC: 0.25x RC
66.2 Slavic
19.0 Roman
10.0 Paleo-Balkan
4.8 Celtic

Target: Vitez_scaled
Distance: 1.5751% / 0.01575077 | ADC: 0.5x RC
64.4 Slavic
14.4 Roman
11.8 Paleo-Balkan
9.4 Celtic

cass
03-24-2023, 10:52 PM
Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.5991% / 0.01599138 | ADC: 0.25x RC
51.4 Slavic
35.4 Germanic
13.2 Celtic

Target: rothaer_wife2_scaled
Distance: 2.4779% / 0.02477878 | ADC: 0.25x RC
66.0 Germanic
25.0 Slavic
9.0 Celtic

Slavic seems notably inflated for me but not for my wife. My wife usually never gets Celtic, so that's a deviation as well.

Target: cass
Distance: 1.1943% / 0.01194348
62.8 Slavic
24.4 Germanic
12.8 Celtic



Target: Peterski_scaled
Distance: 2.0856% / 0.02085557
81.2 Slavic
18.2 Germanic
0.6 Celtic

118889

High convergence with Unietice in my case, maybe that's the cause of the Celtic correlation

Rafael Passoni
07-26-2023, 05:41 AM
Target: me_scaled
Distance: 2.2194% / 0.02219392
89.4 Roman
10.6 Slavic


Target: me_scaled
Distance: 2.2194% / 0.02219392 | ADC: 0.25x RC
33.4 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
30.8 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
25.2 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
10.6 Slavic:Sorb

Target: me_scaled
Distance: 2.4427% / 0.02442717 | ADC: 0.5x RC
29.8 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
24.8 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
22.4 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
11.6 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
8.4 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
3.0 Roman:DEU_Roman

keterpier
07-26-2024, 09:56 AM
Target: keterpier_scaled
Distance: 5.9523% / 0.05952333 | ADC: 0.25x RC
87.0 Roman
7.6 Slavic
5.4 Germanic

djipon
07-26-2024, 02:57 PM
Target: djipon_AncestryDNA_scaled
Distance: 1.9903% / 0.01990266 | ADC: 0.5x RC
45.6 Roman
44.2 Slavic
10.2 Paleo-Balkan

Kazimiera
08-27-2024, 08:32 AM
Target: Kazimiera_sim_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.7123% / 0.01712296

61.4 Germanic
34.0 Slavic
3.6 Celtic
1.0 Roman

Lemurian
08-30-2024, 02:36 AM
Target: Lemurian_scaled
Distance: 1.9823% / 0.01982259 | ADC: 0.5x RC
42.2 Slavic
33.8 Roman
24.0 Paleo-Balkan

Athalafuns
08-30-2024, 12:14 PM
Target: RNB27
Distance: 2.2271% / 0.02227061 | ADC: 0.25x RC
73.6 Roman
14.8 Germanic
11.6 Celtic

Tacitus
08-30-2024, 12:31 PM
Target: Tacitus_G25sim
Distance: 1.8216% / 0.01821572 | ADC: 0.25x RC
81.0 Roman
19.0 Celtic

Italo-Celtic connection is real, don't @ me.

Kenshiro
09-06-2024, 07:39 AM
"DEU Roman"...:picard1:

Distance to: Roman:DEU_Roman
0.02420734 Spanish_Extremadura:HG01510
0.02482220 Spanish_Alacant:ALE005
0.02526105 Spanish_Mallorca:SOL053
0.02601334 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GRA011
0.02602989 Spanish_Barcelones:GUS119
0.02621865 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:BOS029
0.02655873 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:MAS003
0.02676415 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:FER039
0.02682678 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:ROI042
0.02688170 Spanish_Baleares:HG01615
0.02727699 Spanish_Andalucia:HG01623
0.02743477 Spanish_Aragon:HG01676
0.02754931 Spanish_Cataluna:HG01537
0.02815277 Spanish_Penedes:VID003
0.02862529 Spanish_Menorca:GUS007
0.02867367 Spanish_Baleares:HG01613
0.02878646 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:ROS008
0.02881215 Spanish_Andalucia:AND33
0.02898215 Spanish_Aragon:HG01673
0.02907384 Spanish_Lleida:MST075
0.02919404 Spanish_Baleares:HG01625
0.02925448 Spanish_Girona:REI087
0.02931447 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:CAR048
0.02941051 Spanish_Valencia:EST038
0.02943736 French_Auvergne:C_80

DEU Roman i think It's effective Celtic or Celtiberian, are more distant to the majority of Italics, Etruscans and Latins than HRV IA, a sort of middle ground between these two samples, which should trace more or less in southern Spain and in some parts of northern Italy and in Corsica