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LorD NooB
01-02-2021, 08:51 AM
Or phenotypes

Reccared I
01-02-2021, 09:10 AM
North-pontid, East baltic.

LorD NooB
01-02-2021, 09:34 AM
North-pontid, East baltic.

Are you sure about East Baltid?

Reccared I
01-02-2021, 09:37 AM
Are you sure about East Baltid?

At least to a certain extent.

Satem
01-07-2021, 07:14 PM
Norid, Pontid, Gorid, North Pontid, Dinarid, Baltid and mixes of these

Viridian1
01-07-2021, 08:39 PM
At least to a certain extent.

It was about most popular phenotypes....

http://zawiercianskie.pl/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Zakonczenie-roku-szkolnego-Malczewska-2018-3.jpg
https://bi.im-g.pl/im/a7/8e/17/z24702631V,26-04-2019--Zakonczenie-roku-szkolnego-klas-matura.jpg
https://bi.im-g.pl/im/a5/8e/17/z24702629V.jpg

aherne
01-08-2021, 07:26 PM
It was about most popular phenotypes....

http://zawiercianskie.pl/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Zakonczenie-roku-szkolnego-Malczewska-2018-3.jpg
https://bi.im-g.pl/im/a7/8e/17/z24702631V,26-04-2019--Zakonczenie-roku-szkolnego-klas-matura.jpg
https://bi.im-g.pl/im/a5/8e/17/z24702629V.jpg

Mostly HG types (Baltid) with Steppe (Corded) and ENF influences (Dinaric/Med/Alpine). Baltid+Alpine is most common in women while Corded-Dinaric is most common in men

Viridian1
01-08-2021, 08:15 PM
Mostly HG types (Baltid) with Steppe (Corded) and ENF influences (Dinaric/Med/Alpine). Baltid+Alpine is most common in women while Corded-Dinaric is most common in men

I am on the women side xD

Dirdepo
01-08-2021, 08:23 PM
Cro Magnon, Baltid, Uralid, Pontid, Dinarid and variations of those if they are truly Polish and not actors

LorD NooB
01-09-2021, 12:24 PM
Yesterday i saw a photo of Polish school team and if not the Polish coat of arms on the wall I would have thought that they were Russians

LorD NooB
01-09-2021, 12:26 PM
Cro Magnon, Baltid, Uralid, Pontid, Dinarid and variations of those if they are truly Polish and not actors

Uralid in Poland???

Art23
01-09-2021, 01:19 PM
Uralid is indeed much more common in Russia and absent in Poland. That's what makes the main difference in looks between Poles and Russians in fact.

Viridian1
01-09-2021, 01:25 PM
Yesterday i saw a photo of Polish school team and if not the Polish coat of arms on the wall I would have thought that they were Russians

Where did you see it?

LorD NooB
01-09-2021, 01:42 PM
Uralid is indeed much more common in Russia and absent in Poland. That's what makes the main difference in looks between Poles and Russians in fact.

Uralid isn't common in Russia I assure you

LorD NooB
01-09-2021, 01:45 PM
Where did you see it?

In instagram

Art23
01-09-2021, 01:48 PM
Uralid isn't common in Russia I assure you

I wouldn't say that stereotypical Uralid is common, but some Uralid traits are quite frequent among Russians.

LorD NooB
01-09-2021, 01:55 PM
I wouldn't say that stereotypical Uralid is common, but some Uralid traits are quite frequent among Russians.

Nope, Uralid features are not frequent for Russians but they are frequent for some Finno-Ugric and Turkic people in Russia

VirilLignac
01-28-2024, 08:24 AM
Mostly HG types (Baltid) with Steppe (Corded) and ENF influences (Dinaric/Med/Alpine). Baltid+Alpine is most common in women while Corded-Dinaric is most common in men

Similar to Lithuania.

Roy
01-28-2024, 12:12 PM
Middle Sinid obviously. Poles are chinky.

Roy
01-28-2024, 12:14 PM
Similar to Lithuania.

Not really, Poles are pretty different looking than Lithuanians already
We look more like Czechs than like Lithuanians (even if nearly all Lithuanians can pass as Poles).

nittionia
01-28-2024, 12:33 PM
When I was in northern Poland I was a little surprised at how "proper" slavic the people looked. I guess I thought this region would be more similar to other Baltic areas (and to an extent they do), but overall they looked closer to other continental slavs to me

SocietyIslands
02-01-2024, 01:38 PM
Neo-Danubian.

Roy
02-01-2024, 01:50 PM
Neo-Danubian.

Not accurate actually. Pure Neo-Danubian is present but it's more often mixed with other type for instance.

SocietyIslands
02-01-2024, 02:22 PM
Not accurate actually. Pure Neo-Danubian is present but it's more often mixed with other type for instance.

What individual phenotype would be the most common one then? I know that Alpines and Dinarics (including Norics) are also very common but less so in pure form than Neo-Danubian or any Ladogan subtype.

TRoE:

Contemporary Polish anthropologists have studied the population of their country by dividing it into types, and plotting the proportions of these types by regions. These types include what would in our present terminology be Nordic, Neo-Danubian, Lappish, Ladogan, Alpine, and Dinaric, as well as Armenoid, and both tall and short Mediterraneans. The last three, however, are admittedly much in the minority, if they are present at all. The Nordic element is strongest in the Polish Corridor, where East Baltic factors, unusual in Poland in our definition of the term, are also found. The Nordic element is also strongest on the German border, and elsewhere it is concentrated along main water courses, the highroads of migration in pre-Slavic Gothic times, as well as later. Its identity with a social and economic upper level, however, is probably stronger than its geographical differentiation. The Neo-Danubian element, which has probably gained in stature through its Nordic interlude, is as blond as the Nordic, on the whole, and this fact leads one to the conclusion that the pre-Corded peasants of eastern Europe, as of the Danube Valley, were already partly blond. The combination of ash-blond hair with gray-mixed eyes seems to be a Neo-Danubian specialty.

Members of the early forest types with their incipiently mongoloid facial features have seeped in everywhere north of the Carpathians, but more in the east than in the west. They too were probably partly blond from the beginning, but not as blond as the Danubians with whom they have become thoroughly blended. Dinarics, commonest in the Carpathians, are found in solution throughout Poland, and the same is true of the Alpines. The rare brunet Mediterraneans noted by the Polish authors are probably related to the commoner brunet long heads of southern Rus-sia, of Bulgaria, and of the Caucasus, with whom we shall deal later.



From the crowds I've seen and having visited both Gdańsk, Warsaw and Kraków, the type with the most common presence in pure form seemed to be Neo-Danubian or some Mongoloid admixed type, the Kaczyński brothers (who are said to be very Polish looking) are also just dark Neo-Danubians.

cass
02-01-2024, 07:09 PM
source: Michalski I., Struktura antropologiczna Polski, 1949
36532 men

https://i.ibb.co/9Z3mnd8/aa.jpg (https://ibb.co/1zJYZ4v)
Nordid element is the dominating but mixed with Alpinid (south) and Atlanto Mediterranid (north)

1. Subnordid - the most frequent
https://i.ibb.co/prrGZHH/41-n.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/DrZdQ5y/AL-0202.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/MgZ0tDm/al-1.jpg (https://ibb.co/x2XTBSN)

2. NW Type (aka Nordid+ minor Medit., mostly Corded)
https://i.ibb.co/BG8SWDJ/AE-0289092191.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/3yS1dFn/AE-9932983.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/DQGkXYX/ae.jpg (https://ibb.co/KWN7ZDZ)

3. Dinarid (polish antr. equivalent of Norid)
https://i.ibb.co/yVhXJSN/14-n.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/8dVG78R/ah.jpg (https://ibb.co/rcJqwyL)
png do jpg (https://pl.imgbb.com/)

4. Pure Nordid
https://i.ibb.co/6BKD8Kn/aa-4434343.jpg (https://ibb.co/TLQP1Qv)
https://i.ibb.co/7nNdgrK/typ-aa.jpg (https://ibb.co/ByK54TB)

5. Alpinid
https://i.ibb.co/KWvZ1Zb/HL-n.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
el photo (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/L09RRgv/hl.jpg (https://ibb.co/7SrCCpb)

6. Baltid
https://i.ibb.co/kXXthvd/YL-093893.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/cvqJwkr/YL-30939.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/qMLGxPm/yl.jpg (https://ibb.co/gMb16Bt)

7 Fennonordid
https://i.ibb.co/6ZS5qkj/AQ-01.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/5T86CRR/aq.jpg (https://ibb.co/4WT7CVV)

another aproach ca 300000 ppl
Górny S., Terytoria antropologiczne Środkowej i Wschodniej Polski, Materiały Prace Antropologiczne, nr. 37, 1961, s. 17-49
https://i.ibb.co/sgPPtYK/form-gorny.jpg (https://ibb.co/j855HXy)

The main formations are continental Nordid in the north, Subnordid central and Alpinid in the south.

Katarzyna
02-02-2024, 01:33 PM
Not accurate actually. Pure Neo-Danubian is present but it's more often mixed with other type for instance.

Mostly mixed with alpine
Subnordid + Neo Danubian is a common combination in Poland