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Jana
01-04-2021, 03:20 PM
1. This one can pass in Croatia rather easily

https://www.hnk-gorica.hr/UserDocsImages/fotografije/organizacija/nikoliciusmindaugas.jpg
https://www.hrt.hr/media/tt_news/PXL_040720_29441139.jpg.688x388_q85_crop_upscale.j pg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRGzfiGXUAIa6Zm.jpg
https://s2.15min.lt/images/photos/2013/08/06/original/treniruotes-akimirka-5200c2616909c.jpg
https://static.slobodnadalmacija.hr/images/slike/2021/01/04/o_15703178_1024.jpg
https://www.novilist.hr/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/PXL_260920_30282417-717x478.jpg

2. While this one can't, he looks too foreign

https://www.novilist.hr/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Gorica-predstavila-novoga-trenera-radio-je-u-Manchester-Unitedu-i-Barceloni-scaled.jpg
https://dalmatinskiportal.hr/sadrzaj/vijesti/velika/2020-07-01-08-13-2682-.jpg
https://ip.index.hr/remote/indexnew.s3.index.hr/e8663435-1b2b-42f0-bbae-46b21981315f.jpg?width=765&height=402
https://ip.index.hr/remote/indexnew.s3.index.hr/a00aa3d2-6302-4b78-b9a9-fc9e1773cd5e.jpg?width=765&height=421
https://static.slobodnadalmacija.hr/images/slike/2020/09/29/o_14661048_1024.jpg
https://image.dnevnik.hr/media/images/1920x1080/Jun2020/61895679-valdas-dambrauskas.jpg

XenophobicPrussian
01-04-2021, 03:26 PM
Gorid with a small shift toward Baltid

Sub-Nordid+Baltid

Second guy reminds me of a few Germans I've seen.

Sandis
06-08-2021, 10:48 PM
1. Mostly Gorid. Can pass in Poland, Ukraine. In Latvia as atypical.
2. West-Baltid/Balto-Borreby range + Nordid admixture. Can pass from Lithuania to Finland.

Ygsi
06-08-2021, 10:53 PM
Both of them are managers, right?

Dick
06-09-2021, 12:03 AM
Asiatic Nords or depigmented Han. Arent Lithuanians N1c mostly?

Xacal
06-09-2021, 12:09 AM
1. Gorid
2. Balto-​Nordid

Sandis
06-09-2021, 10:01 AM
Asiatic Nords or depigmented Han. Arent Lithuanians N1c mostly?

It's not true. Autosomally Lithuanians have low East Asian component.
Haplogroup N is not so common among Chinese, their average is about 7 pct., and it is more frequent in the North:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/Haplogrupo_N_%28ADN-Y%29.PNG
Lithuanians have lower Siberian admixture than their haplogroup N frequency. Their Mongoloid traits can be seen through Siberian admixture, but often these traits are not exactly like East Asian or Siberian, it's also because their phenotype developed in similar conditions.

Jana
06-09-2021, 02:57 PM
Balts have almost 0% mongoloid autosomal admixture, much less than Finns, Russians, Turks or even Romanians/Moldovans and Hungarians.

But N1c does have east Asian origin despite today it is rare there. Ancient N1c was found in neolithic China or something like that.

Jana
06-09-2021, 03:04 PM
Both of them are managers, right?

Sporting menager and football coach, they are very good.

Ygsi
06-09-2021, 03:10 PM
Sporting menager and football coach, they are very good.

I guess the Croatian football league is by far the most one-sided league, at least in Europe. Since Croatia became independent, only 4 teams have ever won it (2 of them only once each), and Dinamo Zagreb won like 22 times out of 30. I remember I looked out of curiosity around January or February, and I think Osijek was around 10 points or so ahead of Dinamo Zagreb back then. How did DZ manage to win again?

Jana
06-09-2021, 03:22 PM
I guess the Croatian football league is by far the most one-sided league, at least in Europe. Since Croatia became independent, only 4 teams have ever won it (2 of them only once each), and Dinamo Zagreb won like 22 times out of 30. I remember I looked out of curiosity around January or February, and I think Osijek was around 10 points or so ahead of Dinamo Zagreb back then. How did DZ manage to win again?

They are simply best club in entire south-eastern Europe currently, best organised, world class youth academy etc. They started their domination because after indipendance of Croatia they were "regime club" (favorites of first President) and even renamed from Dinamo to Croatia Zagreb (after his death name Dinamo was returned). Afterwards though they simply built best sporting system and that's why they dominate.

Ygsi
06-09-2021, 03:36 PM
They are simply best club in entire south-eastern Europe currently, best organised, world class youth academy etc. They started their domination because after indipendance of Croatia they were "regime club" (favorites of first President) and even renamed from Dinamo to Croatia Zagreb (after his death name Dinamo was returned). Afterwards though they simply built best sporting system and that's why they dominate.

Are they? Would they rank better than say Greek clubs like Panathinaikos, Olympiakos, AEK Athens, PAOK? On the other hand even DZ's arch-rivals in Croatia, Hajduk Split has become largely irrelevant, since HS could not even be on 2nd place since the 2012-13 season, and not even in top 3 since the 2018-19 season. HS knew success when the likes of Tonci Gabric and then Stipe Pletikosa played for them.

Jana
06-09-2021, 04:46 PM
Are they? Would they rank better than say Greek clubs like Panathinaikos, Olympiakos, AEK Athens, PAOK? On the other hand even DZ's arch-rivals in Croatia, Hajduk Split has become largely irrelevant, since HS could not even be on 2nd place since the 2012-13 season, and not even in top 3 since the 2018-19 season. HS knew success when the likes of Tonci Gabric and then Stipe Pletikosa played for them.

I didn't really count Greek clubs in "SE Europe" tbh. Olympiacos would be currently most successfull club for sure if Greece is included. But Dinamo Zagreb has better academy than any Greek club, one of top in Europe.

Well this Lithuanian guy took over Hajduk Split as sporting director and they already improved a lot, so maybe he can be X factor for them. It's interesting you know football so well.

Ygsi
06-09-2021, 04:58 PM
I didn't really count Greek clubs in "SE Europe" tbh. Olympiacos would be currently most successfull club for sure if Greece is included. But Dinamo Zagreb has better academy than any Greek club, one of top in Europe.

Well this Lithuanian guy took over Hajduk Split as sporting director and they already improved a lot, so maybe he can be X factor for them. It's interesting you know football so well.

And to think I don't even watch football. My dad watches football all the time, but still doesn't know as much about it as I do. Wanna know the secret? I have been playing FIFA games for 20 years now. You know EA Sports' FIFA series right?

Jana
06-09-2021, 05:11 PM
And to think I don't even watch football. My dad watches football all the time, but still doesn't know as much about it as I do. Wanna know the secret? I have been playing FIFA games for 20 years now. You know EA Sports' FIFA series right?

Ofcourse :) I played PS2 in 2000s, but I prefered PES over FIFA.

Ygsi
06-09-2021, 05:34 PM
Ofcourse :) I played PS2 in early 2000s, but I prefered PES over FIFA.

Is PES better than FIFA?

Jana
06-09-2021, 08:08 PM
Is PES better than FIFA?

When I played in 2004-07, PES was better for me.

Ygsi
06-09-2021, 08:14 PM
When I played in 2004-07, PES was better for me.

In PES, can you do International selection?

Jana
06-09-2021, 08:33 PM
In PES, can you do International selection?

Don't remember, I was 12-14 yo when I played video games. But you could play with national teams or even create your own team/players. I remember because I made team from my elementary school classmates (you could model their look too)

NSXD60
06-09-2021, 08:57 PM
Typical central Euros, surprising since Russians colonized there and racially altered them.

Jana
06-09-2021, 09:31 PM
Typical central Euros, surprising since Russians colonized there and racially altered them.

Second one is not typical Central Euro at all, but I noticed you suck at classifications greatly. First one is more east than central as well. Balts aren't mixed with Russians, just lot of Russians live there.

Ygsi
06-09-2021, 09:36 PM
Don't remember, I was 12-14 yo when I ppayed video games. But you could play with national teams or even create your own team/players. I remember because I made team amde from my elementary school classmates (you could model their look too)

Hah. I did the same in FIFA 2002.

NSXD60
06-09-2021, 11:00 PM
Second one is not typical Central Euro at all, but I noticed you suck at classifications greatly. First one is more east than central as well. Balts aren't mixed with Russians, just lot of Russians live there.
You'd be surprised at the majority of :thumb001: I get for classifying. Yet you think Russians and Balts didn't mate? Moors and Spaniards?