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What would the Australian Aboriginal average look like based on self-reported ancestry. They seem to be incredibly mixed race at this point
Another factor might be the children of mixed marriages: the proportion of Aboriginal adults married (de facto or de jure) to non-Aboriginal spouses increased to 78.2% in the 2016 census,[215] (up from 74% in 2011,[216] 64% in 1996, 51% in 1991 and 46% in 1986); it was reported in 2002 that up to 88% of the offspring of mixed marriages subsequently self-identify as Indigenous Australians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Australians#Demographics
J. Ketch
01-07-2021, 08:58 AM
What would the Australian Aboriginal average look like based on self-reported ancestry. They seem to be incredibly mixed race at this point
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Australians#Demographics
Just average the Abo and Anglo-Celtic Australian averages, and weight it towards Abo's so it's like 60/40, and you wouldn't be far off.
Just average the Abo and Anglo-Celtic Australian averages, and weight it towards Abo's so it's like 60/40 or 70/30, and you wouldn't be far off.
You think they're about one third British? I'm sure there are plenty of even more white-washed individuals identifying as Aboriginal. Like 70% white and 30% Abo.
J. Ketch
01-07-2021, 09:33 AM
You think they're about one third British? I'm sure there are plenty of even more white-washed individuals identifying as Aboriginal. Like 70% white and 30% Abo.
I don't know. I've never studied their modern demography. But like you said the majority of 'them' (those who identify) are mixed now, some majority white (can you really call them Abo? I guess we do), some majority black, some half and half, and some full or near full Abo. There is not really a stable mixture, just a bunch of people with varying degrees of Abo blood who identify as it, and some with minor Abo blood who do so officially only for benefits, while not socially identifying as Abo.
I don't know. I've never studied their modern demography. But like you said the majority of 'them' (those who identify) are mixed now, some majority white (can you really call them Abo? I guess we do), some majority black, some half and half, and some full or near full Abo. There is not really a stable mixture, just a bunch of people with varying degrees of Abo blood who identify as it, and some with minor Abo blood who do so officially only for benefits, while not socially identifying as Abo.
I see. I think most people are unaware of how mongrelized they are now. People would google Aboriginal and see those pictures of pure tribal archaic-looking humans and think that's the average Abo look of 2021.
J. Ketch
01-07-2021, 11:48 AM
I see. I think most people are unaware of how mongrelized they are now. People would google Aboriginal and see those pictures of pure tribal archaic-looking humans and think that's the average Abo look of 2021.Different areas have different levels of admixture. In most of Victoria where I live they are very mixed, and full-blooded ones are extremely rare; only really Gippsland has a noticeable amount of them. Full-blooded Tasmanian Abo's are extinct. In urban areas they tend to be a lot more mixed. It's mainly in Northern and Central Australia, especially in remote areas that they're still mostly full-blooded, but those are massively outnumbered now by the urbanised mongrels. It's more a case of the Abo identity being hijacked by the mongrels, whether you want to consider them real Abo's is up to you.
J. Ketch
05-31-2021, 08:42 AM
Typical modern 'Indigenous Australian', from Queensland, over half white.
Kit KW6164022
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Oceanian 32.04
2 North_Atlantic 25.55
3 Baltic 14.64
4 South_Asian 9.68
5 West_Med 6.87
6 East_Asian 3.54
7 Red_Sea 2.85
8 Siberian 1.95
9 Sub-Saharan 1.77
10 East_Med 1.12
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 45.75
2 Serbian 46.11
3 La_Brana-1 46.12
4 Moldavian 46.2
5 Hungarian 46.27
6 Austrian 46.38
7 French 46.46
8 South_Dutch 46.71
9 East_German 46.74
10 Romanian 46.9
11 Croatian 47.08
12 Portuguese 47.16
13 North_German 47.45
14 Bulgarian 47.59
15 Spanish_Galicia 47.61
16 Southeast_English 47.82
17 Spanish_Cataluna 47.98
18 North_Swedish 48.01
19 Swedish 48.1
20 Ukrainian_Lviv 48.16
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.4% Danish + 45.6% NAN_Melanesian @ 9.75
2 54.8% North_German + 45.2% NAN_Melanesian @ 9.84
3 54.3% Orcadian + 45.7% NAN_Melanesian @ 9.91
4 54.4% North_Dutch + 45.6% NAN_Melanesian @ 9.98
5 54.6% Southeast_English + 45.4% NAN_Melanesian @ 9.99
6 54.4% Swedish + 45.6% NAN_Melanesian @ 10.13
7 54% West_Scottish + 46% NAN_Melanesian @ 10.13
8 54.1% Irish + 45.9% NAN_Melanesian @ 10.15
9 54.3% Southwest_English + 45.7% NAN_Melanesian @ 10.2
10 53.8% Norwegian + 46.2% NAN_Melanesian @ 10.26
11 55.2% South_Dutch + 44.8% NAN_Melanesian @ 10.31
12 64.8% South_Dutch + 35.2% Papuan @ 10.49
13 55.8% West_German + 44.2% NAN_Melanesian @ 10.6
14 65.3% West_German + 34.7% Papuan @ 10.76
15 64.4% North_German + 35.6% Papuan @ 10.79
16 64.1% Danish + 35.9% Papuan @ 11.01
17 54.5% North_Swedish + 45.5% NAN_Melanesian @ 11.03
18 55.2% East_German + 44.8% NAN_Melanesian @ 11.12
19 64.8% East_German + 35.2% Papuan @ 11.27
20 55.4% Austrian + 44.6% NAN_Melanesian @ 11.37
Typical modern 'Indigenous Australian', from Queensland, over half white.
Haha. Some other calculators
Dodecad World9
Population
Amerindian 0.2 Pct
East_Asian 2.88 Pct
African 1.04 Pct
Atlantic_Baltic 39.44 Pct
Australasian 33 Pct
Siberian 2.48 Pct
Caucasus_Gedrosia 6.24 Pct
Southern 7.16 Pct
South_Asian 7.57 Pct
MDLP K23b
Population
Amerindian -
Ancestral_Altaic 0.54 Pct
South_Central_Asian 2.81 Pct
Arctic 1.06 Pct
South_Indian 4.94 Pct
Australoid 25.01 Pct
Austronesian -
Caucasian 8.26 Pct
Archaic_Human 0.39 Pct
East_African -
East_Siberian 0.21 Pct
European_Early_Farmers 16.6 Pct
Khoisan -
Melano_Polynesian 19.35 Pct
Archaic_African 0.39 Pct
Near_East 0.45 Pct
North_African -
Paleo_Siberian -
African_Pygmy -
South_East_Asian 0.61 Pct
Subsaharian -
Tungus-Altaic -
European_Hunters_Gatherers 19.38 Pct
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.2% Australian_ECCAC ( ) + 28.8% English_Kent_GBR ( ) @ 3.59
2 70.8% Australian_ECCAC ( ) + 29.2% Welsh ( ) @ 3.66
3 70.5% Australian_ECCAC ( ) + 29.5% CEU ( ) @ 3.67
4 72.4% Australian_ECCAC ( ) + 27.6% French ( ) @ 3.7
5 70.3% Australian_ECCAC ( ) + 29.7% North_European ( ) @ 3.72
6 71.1% Australian_ECCAC ( ) + 28.9% English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) @ 3.72
7 70.8% Australian_ECCAC ( ) + 29.2% British ( ) @ 3.74
8 69.6% Australian_ECCAC ( ) + 30.4% Norwegian_West ( ) @ 3.89
9 71% Australian_ECCAC ( ) + 29% English ( ) @ 3.9
10 71.2% Australian_ECCAC ( ) + 28.8% Irish ( ) @ 3.96
I wonder what he/she looks like.
Lucas
05-31-2021, 09:46 AM
Different areas have different levels of admixture. In most of Victoria where I live they are very mixed, and full-blooded ones are extremely rare; only really Gippsland has a noticeable amount of them. Full-blooded Tasmanian Abo's are extinct. In urban areas they tend to be a lot more mixed. It's mainly in Northern and Central Australia, especially in remote areas that they're still mostly full-blooded, but those are massively outnumbered now by the urbanised mongrels. It's more a case of the Abo identity being hijacked by the mongrels, whether you want to consider them real Abo's is up to you.
If there is the same trend in Australia like in US to glorify his tiny Abo percentages (distant great-great grandfather for example)?
It is true Abo quadroons are practically white phenotypically and can have light pigmentation comparing to SSA - Euro mixes?
J. Ketch
05-31-2021, 10:07 AM
If there is the same trend in Australia like in US to glorify his tiny Abo percentages (distant great-great grandfather for example)?
Not so much. There is traditionally very little romanticism around Aborigines compared to the romanticism around Amerindians the US, however in recent years they have been glorified the Media, and that is perhaps becoming more of a thing now.
Moreover people here won't make up Abo ancestry like they do for Indian ancestry in the US.
It is true Abo quadroons are practically white phenotypically and can have light pigmentation comparing to SSA - Euro mixes?
I think that might be a stretch. Maybe they look more White than SSA mixes but they still look odd. 1/8 can perhaps look practically white, with some odd features.
Peterski
05-31-2021, 10:09 AM
Aren't they mixing also with other Non-Whites? Only with White Anglo-Celtic Australians?
On GEDmatch I found for example a 3/4 Native American + 1/4 Japanese-American mixed person from Oklahoma.
And another 1/2 Inuit + 1/2 Black person from Canada.
So Amerindians are mixing also with other Non-Whites.
Aren't they mixing also with other Non-Whites? Only with White Anglo-Celtic Australians?
On GEDmatch I found for example a 3/4 Native American + 1/4 Japanese-American mixed person from Oklahoma.
And another 1/2 Inuit + 1/2 Black person from Canada.
So Amerindians are mixing also with other Non-Whites.
Australia has only a few Africans and I doubt 95+% of Chinese or Indians are interested in mixing with Aboriginals. You know non-whites would typically either marry people from their community or whites (depending on the group).
Grace O'Malley
05-31-2021, 10:34 AM
Aren't they mixing also with other Non-Whites? Only with White Anglo-Celtic Australians?
On GEDmatch I found for example a 3/4 Native American + 1/4 Japanese-American mixed person from Oklahoma.
And another 1/2 Inuit + 1/2 Black person from Canada.
So Amerindians are mixing also with other Non-Whites.
Yes some also mix with Asians but majority mix with the dominant population which is Anglo-Celtic.
Jessica Mauboy for example is half-Indonesian and half Indigenous Australian. I know some Aboriginal people that also have Chinese ancestry.
https://static.eurovision.tv/hb-cgi/images/8d917f64-1fdb-4473-93b5-884d5bbef600/hero.jpg
https://static.billboard.com/files/media/Jessica-Mauboy-oct-2019-sydney-billboard-1548-compressed.jpg
Some have interesting mixes like Director Ivan Sen, his mother is Aboriginal and his father is half German half Hungarian. Also possible his mother has some non-indigenous ancestry.
https://images.moviefit.me/p/o/182023-ivan-sen.jpg
https://lotswife.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Christopher-Edwards-Daniel-Connors-Ivan-Sen-2560x1653-1000x646.jpg
Jessica Mauboy is good-looking but her Indonesian father is from West Timor, I assume he is almost Australoid himself, not a Javanese Muslim Indonesian
Mauboy was born 4 August 1989 and raised in Darwin, Northern Territory.[6] Her father, Ferdy, is an Indonesian-born electrician from West Timor.[7][8] Her mother, Therese, is an Indigenous Australian[8][9][10][11] from the Kuku Yalanji people of the rainforest regions of Far North Queensland.
But she is likely to have white-washed kids too because her boyfriend is a Greek Australian
In January 2009, she began a long-distance relationship with Themeli "Magoo" Magripilis, a soccer player and council worker of Greek descent, who was born and raised in Darwin.[125][126][127] Magripilis played for the Darwin soccer league's club Hellenic Athletic, the same club that Mauboy's younger sister Sophia played for.[126][128] After seven years of long distance dating, Magripilis relocated from Darwin to Sydney in September 2016 and moved in with Mauboy.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/04/30/05/12891164-0-image-a-45_1556599625567.jpg
Grace O'Malley
05-31-2021, 10:54 AM
Here's a story about an Aboriginal woman Brenda Kafonski discovering her Chinese roots. I knew some Aboriginal people had Chinese ancestry.
Some 3,000 Chinese men and boys came to Australia from Amoy — now known as Xiamen, in China's eastern Fujian province — in the 1840s, to work as shepherds across Victoria, New South Wales and Queensland.
The historical connections between Indigenous and Chinese people in Australia started at least 150 years ago, yet their stories have largely gone unrecorded.
Historian Dr Sandi Robb has been researching the relationships and marriage patterns of Chinese men and Aboriginal women in Queensland.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-29/australian-aboriginal-woman-looks-for-her-chinese-roots/12282332
https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/915733e53cde748825d285930f67ba9a?impolicy=wcms_cro p_resize&cropH=1989&cropW=2992&xPos=8&yPos=8&width=862&height=575
There is also some Chinese/Aboriginal mixes in Broome in the north of Western Australia.
Another article about the history of Chinese and Aboriginal intermarriage.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-23/indigenous-and-chinese-relationship-in-australian-history/9893920
Jason Wing is of Chinese and Aboriginal ancestry. Looking at him though he also has obvious European blood.
https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/sites/sbs.com.au.nitv/files/styles/full/public/jason_wing.jpg?itok=kS8QFYtD
Jason Wing is of Chinese and Aboriginal ancestry. Looking at him though he also has obvious European blood.
https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/sites/sbs.com.au.nitv/files/styles/full/public/jason_wing.jpg?itok=kS8QFYtD
He would pass easily as a Tatar or some kind of Turkic person LOL xD
Grace O'Malley
05-31-2021, 11:04 AM
He would pass easily as a Tatar or some kind of Turkic person LOL xD
Yes he would. :) He has a very interesting mix for sure.
https://107.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/blog34-jasonwing.jpg
I know a surprising amount of people that look just average Aussie looking but have an Asian Grandparent. You would never know if they didn't tell you.
His Aboriginal ancestry must be rather negligible, looks more like LARPing to me 'cause it's cooler or more profitable to be of both immigrant and "indigenous" descent. Full Aboriginals look nothing like him and Chinese people don't have the genes for blue eyes and red hair.
Yes, quarter East Asians can pass as white occasionally. Tatars and similar groups are multigenerational mixes, they're a different story of course. In their case the mixing has been happening since at least the Middle Ages.
Grace O'Malley
05-31-2021, 11:28 AM
His Aboriginal ancestry must be rather negligible, looks more like LARPing to me 'cause it's cooler or more profitable to be of both immigrant and "indigenous" descent. Full Aboriginals look nothing like him and Chinese people don't have the genes for blue eyes and red hair.
Yes, quarter East Asians can pass as white occasionally. Tatars and similar groups are multigenerational mixes, they're a different story of course. In their case the mixing has been happening since at least the Middle Ages.
A lot of people that identify as indigenous don't even look it. I know this from personal experience. :) Some of them are most probably only 25% or less but that's how they identify.
Here's some Aboriginal lawyers. They are quite diverse looking. Some people I know have no obvious traits though.
https://www.liv.asn.au/getattachment/Staying-Informed/LIJ/LIJ/April-2021/Diversity--Aboriginal-lawyers-making-inroads/20210218_DIG_PUB_LIJ_April2021_MainImg_V0110.jpg.a spx?width=770&height=410&ext=.jpg
The women below went through a program that is open to Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander law students. Good on them though because they are doing well for themselves.
https://www.legalaid.vic.gov.au/sites/www.legalaid.vic.gov.au/files/styles/content-full/public/vla-aboriginal-and-torres-strait-islander-graduate-law-program-2020.jpg?itok=Q0KEwdLV
Obviously that's another post-modern "multicultural" identity i.e. a complete farce.
J. Ketch
05-31-2021, 11:49 AM
Obviously that's another post-modern "multicultural" identity i.e. a complete farce.
This guy was lauded as the first Aboriginal Winter Olympian in 2018.
https://www.denverpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/harley-windsor.jpg?w=1024&h=806
Petalpusher
05-31-2021, 11:54 AM
Different phenomen than in the US, and likely everywhere else, the original mixes identify with their African ancestry and therefore marry back in those ethnicities. In the end all Afroamericans are white admixed but whites are much much less African admixed.
This guy was lauded as the first Aboriginal Winter Olympian in 2018.
[IMG]https://www.denverpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/harley-windsor.jpg?w=1024&h=806
Lol, what a joke.
If white privilege was a real thing, there wouldn't be so many pale-ass fuckers out there pretending they are something other than white. Likewise if male privilege was a real thing, there wouldn't be so many weirdos identifying as LGBTQ.
Different phenomen than in the US, and likely everywhere else, the original mixes identify with their African ancestry and therefore marry back in those ethnicities. In the end all Afroamericans are white admixed but whites are much much less African admixed.
Being black in America is a pretty flexible thing, yes but USUALLY one needs to have at least noticable African features in order to be accepted as black. I think a lot of African Americans would denounce a Larper as a cultural appropriator.
Grace O'Malley
05-31-2021, 12:03 PM
Different phenomen than in the US, and likely everywhere else, the original mixes identify with their African ancestry and therefore marry back in those ethnicities. In the end all Afroamericans are white admixed but whites are much much less African admixed.
It's only on remote communities that there are full-blood Aboriginals and they are small populations. The vast majority of Aboriginals are mixed and they will marry non-Aboriginals in the majority of cases. So yes the trend in Australia is for Aboriginals to marry out.
https://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/people/mixed-race-couples
Lucas
05-31-2021, 02:08 PM
This guy was lauded as the first Aboriginal Winter Olympian in 2018.
https://www.denverpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/harley-windsor.jpg?w=1024&h=806
Obviously he looks white but indeed has strong glabella region and sloping forehead as traits inherited from Abo side (probably). Well, still it is nothing out of white.
catgeorge
05-31-2021, 02:17 PM
Average aboriginal these days
https://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Players/ChampIDImages/XLarge2021/260930.png?i10c=img.resize(scale_height:0.6)
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https://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Players/ChampIDImages/XLarge2021/296254.png?i10c=img.resize(scale_height:0.6)
Remote regions
https://static.hudl.com/users/temp/7310346_a5951007d3e6408eaaa12559ce6398ea.jpg
https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/05232f31adfea78f8dcee363c82d58af
J. Ketch
06-01-2021, 12:05 AM
An article which Andrew Bolt was found guilty of 'Racial Discrimination' for in this mad country.
Andrew Bolt
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April 15, 2009 - 2:05PM
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MEET the white face of a new black race - the political Aborigine. Meet, say, acclaimed St Kilda artist Bindi Cole, who was raised by her English-Jewish mother yet calls herself "Aboriginal but white". She rarely saw her part-Aboriginal father, and could in truth join any one of several ethnic groups, but chose Aboriginal, insisting on a racial identity you could not guess from her features. She also chose, incidentally, the one identity open to her that has political and career clout. And how popular a choice that now is. Ask Annette Sax, another artist and - as the very correct Age newspaper described her - a "white Koori". Her father was Swiss, and her mother only part-Aboriginal. Racially, if these things mattered, she is more Caucasian than anything else. Culturally, she's more European. In looks, she's Swiss. But she, too, has chosen to call herself Aboriginal, which happily means she could be shortlisted for this year's Victorian Indigenous Art Award. Shall I go on? Not yet convinced that there is a whole new fashion in academia, the arts and professional activism to identify as Aboriginal? Not yet convinced that for many of these fair Aborigines, the choice to be Aboriginal can seem almost arbitrary and intensely political, given how many of their ancestors are in fact Caucasian?
Then meet now Tara June Winch, who is just 26 and has written only one book, Swallow the Air, yet is already an ambassador for the Australia Council's Indigenous Literacy Project. Yes, indeed, because despite her auburn hair and charmingly freckled face, she, too, is an Aborigine, who claims her "country is Wiradjuri". Yet her mother, who raised her in industrial Wollongong, is in fact boringly English, and her father has both Afghan and Aboriginal heritage. She could call herself English, Afghan, Aboriginal, Australian or just a take-me-as-I-am human being called Tara June Winch. Race irrelevant. Instead, she's an official Aborigine, and hired as such in a nation that now institutionalises even racial differences you cannot detect with a naked eye. Larissa Behrendt has also worked as a professional Aborigine ever since leaving Harvard Law School, despite looking almost as German as her father name, and having been raised by her white mother. She chose to be Aboriginal, as well, a member of the "Eualayai and Kammillaroi nations", and is now a senior professor at the University of Technology in Sydney's Indigenous House of Learning. She's won many positions and honours as an Aborigine, including the David Unaipon Award for Indigenous Writers, and is often interviewed demanding special rights for "my people". But which people are "yours", exactly, Larissa? And isn't it bizarre to demand laws to give you more rights as a white Aborigine than your own white mum? How much more of this madness can you take? Meet now Associate Professor Anita Heiss, who says she's a "member of the Wiradjuri nation" who prays to Biami, the tribe's creator spirit. Heiss's father was Austrian, and her mother only part-Aboriginal. What's more, she was raised in Sydney and educated at Saint Claire's Catholic College. She, too, could identify as a member of more than one race, if joining up to any at all was important. As it happens, her decision to identify as Aboriginal, joining four other "Austrian Aborigines" she knows, was lucky, given how it's helped her career. Heiss not only took out the Scanlon Prize for Indigenous Poetry, but won plum jobs reserved for Aborigines at Koori Radio, the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Arts Board and Macquarie University's Warawara Department of Indigenous Studies. I'm not saying any of those I've named chose to be Aboriginal for anything but the most heartfelt and honest of reasons. I certainly don't accuse them of opportunism, even if full-blood Aborigines may wonder how such fair people can claim to be one of them and in some cases take black jobs. I'm saying only that this self-identification as Aboriginal strikes me as self-obsessed, and driven more by politics than by any racial reality. It's also divisive, feeding a new movement to stress pointless or even invented racial differences we once swore to overcome. What happened to wanting us all to become colour blind? Of course, the white Aborigine - or "political Aborigine" - is not new. In 1972, Pat Eatock, founding secretary of the Aboriginal Tent Embassy, officially became the first Aborigine to stand for federal parliament in the ACT, even though she looked as white as her Scottish mother, or some of her father's British relatives. Indeed, Eatock only started to identify as Aboriginal when she was 19, after attending a political rally, so little did any racial difference matter to her before her awakening to far-Left causes. But she thrived as an Aboriginal bureaucrat, activist and academic, leading the way for Leeanne Enoch, who stood for Labor in last month's Queensland election as its "first Aboriginal candidate" in a winnable seat, despite looking as Aboriginal, or not, as Premier Anna Bligh. The white Aboriginal artist, too, is more than 15 years old. Kim Scott was hailed as the first Aborigine to win the Miles Franklin Award, and calls himself a Noongar, despite conceding that the Aborigines who did not know him called him wadjila - a white. No doubt he has Aboriginal ancestry, but why does he not also identify with his obvious European background? That is now a question even for our most famous Aboriginal leaders. Geoff Clark, the last chairman of ATSIC, the Aboriginal "parliament", had an English a Scottish father. Lowtija O'Donohue, another ATSIC chairman, had an Irish father. Blue-eyed Michael Mansell, the Tasmanian firebrand, clearly has more European than Aboriginal ancestry. Even Professor Mick Dodson, the Australian of the Year and a fierce advocate for a treaty between black and white, had a white father and from the age of 10 was a boarder at a Victorian Catholic school. Sign a treaty with yourself, Mick. Or take the most prominent Yorta Yorta leaders - Melbourne University academic Wayne Atkinson and Victorian Traditional Owners Land Justice Group co-chair Graham Atkinson. Both are Aboriginal because their Indian great-grandfather married a part-Aboriginal woman. I think it sad if we keep harping on about differences and rights based on trivial inflections of race. And how comic it can be. We get fair-faced Dr Mark Rose, director of Melbourne University’s Centre for Indigenous Education, falsely claiming as "a member of the western Victorian Gundjitamara Nation" that the northern Australia didgeridoo is banned to women. We get Daniel Browning, host of ABC radio's Awaye! program for Aborigines, insisting he's Aboriginal when he looks more like one of his West Indian ancestors, and could just as correctly claim to be South Sea Islander, English, Australian or who-cares. To me, this blacker-than-thou offends the deepest humanist ideals, and our "enlightened" opinion is debased when it takes a Casey Donovan, a mere Australian Idol winner, to hint at the healthier truth, saying she's proud of being Aboriginal, but "proud of being half-white, too". In fact, let's go beyond racial pride. Beyond black and white. Let's be proud only of being human beings set on this land together, determined to find what unites us and not to invent such racist and trivial excuses to divide. Deal?
Some of the people referred to in the article
Michael Mansell
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Annette Sax
https://www.childcareconference.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Annette-Sax-scaled.jpg
Geoff Clark
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Pat Eatock
https://www.fairfaxstatic.com.au/content/dam/images/1/c/d/j/y/image.related.articleLeadwide.620x349.1cdhu.png/1301317200000.jpg
Kim Scott
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Bindi Cole
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Leeanne Enoch
https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/06c52517747dd6d8de695a7eed3c9e5c
Tara June Winch
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/%2Fmethode%2Fsundaytimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2Ff10a 09da-661d-11eb-976c-0f21d6721778.jpg?crop=2667%2C1500%2C0%2C0&resize=1180
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Graham Atkinson
https://barpa.com.au/app/uploads/2019/09/graham-atkinson-1600x687.jpg
Mark Rose
https://www.business.unsw.edu.au/News-Events-Site/PublishingImages/Professor%20Mark%20Rose%20AGSM.jpg?RenditionID=9
Crn Volk
06-01-2021, 01:07 AM
Average aboriginal these days
Remote regions
https://static.hudl.com/users/temp/7310346_a5951007d3e6408eaaa12559ce6398ea.jpg
This is Sam Petrevski-Seton.
He is part Macedonian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Petrevski-Seton
catgeorge
06-01-2021, 01:10 AM
This is Sam Petrevski-Seton.
He is part Macedonian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Petrevski-Seton
That was abit of a giveaway actually - should have known better.
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