Classify Mihkel Ainsalu Estonian footballer

[sevruk]

https://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/3/2020/324x324/250052245.jpg
https://theageoffootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/football-esti.jpg
https://s.err.ee/photo/crop/2020/08/20/807989he82dt27.jpg
https://static.ua-football.com/img/upload/20/2818a2.jpeg

[Immanenz]

Nordic + Armenoid

[Ülev]

this is the clearest result of supporting race mixing in the USSR, EU becomes EUSSR

[Viridian1]

Nordic + Armenoid

Armenordid

[Satem]

My Nordic bro, his nose is perfection

[Harkonnen]

Nose is too short for Nordic or Armenoid.

[sevruk]

this is the clearest result of supporting race mixing in the USSR, EU becomes EUSSR

This happened much earlier. He has a PIE R1 nose
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/52/09/d3/5209d3165a83e5c1c21b610e080dfca9.jpg

[Harkonnen]

This happened much earlier. He has a PIE R1 nose
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/52/09/d3/5209d3165a83e5c1c21b610e080dfca9.jpg

Nah, nose is too short.

[sevruk]

Russian similar with a straight nose:
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/335872-1602312417.png
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/HAAn0hn4Nf0Gh5_N160XfYpDLBjODIrGDf2pasaZQ9kU6i_TVr wMC1zBab5YEscuUJwAODQJB8HoM0kOsY7YRYaQq93bk6c4hAHQ 4Ymuql2l-r56LsgufOA0LotHJc0m_VjYSI2_JlgMB2M1N1sTHZIFrHjk

[Oliver109]

Used to work with an English dude who had exactly the same shaped nose, more of a Dinarid than Armenoid mix i think.

[Immanenz]

Used to work with an English dude who had exactly the same shaped nose, more of a Dinarid than Armenoid mix i think.

This nose isnt typical Dinaric actually.

[Oliver109]

This nose isnt typical Dinaric actually.

So Armenoid?, anyway how did such a nose get up to Estonia? lol

[Immanenz]

If you actually look on human phenotypes- they point out Arabid smewhere in the Balts.most likely some Ashkenazi Jewish settlers.

[Harkonnen]

Russian similar with a straight nose:
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/335872-1602312417.png
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/HAAn0hn4Nf0Gh5_N160XfYpDLBjODIrGDf2pasaZQ9kU6i_TVr wMC1zBab5YEscuUJwAODQJB8HoM0kOsY7YRYaQq93bk6c4hAHQ 4Ymuql2l-r56LsgufOA0LotHJc0m_VjYSI2_JlgMB2M1N1sTHZIFrHjk

Dude you need to give up. OP has short nose. Your IE guy, well half of his face height was nose. The OP nose is something like 1/3 of total face height. Only paper I've seen strong nasal bone forward projection linked with possible (but likely not necessary) nasal convexity AND shortness of nose is the Kylälahti paper. And Kylälahti had very short nose, only Ainu of Japan had similarily short noses. Obviously OP guy would be extreme example even by Kylälahti standards, but put all those requirements together and that is the general plotting you can gauge the guy into with at least some certainty as outlier member.

[FountainOfSalmacis]

This happened much earlier. He has a PIE R1 nose
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/52/09/d3/5209d3165a83e5c1c21b610e080dfca9.jpg

I think the original guy has a shorter nose and is way more curved.

[Norb]

Blonde Arab

[princeton90]

East-Med

[Norb]

So Armenoid?, anyway how did such a nose get up to Estonia? lol

the same way it got into Lithuania :rolleyes:

[MrGroves]

If you actually look on human phenotypes- they point out Arabid smewhere in the Balts.most likely some Ashkenazi Jewish settlers.

+1

I concur.

[sevruk]

Dude you need to give up. OP has short nose. Your IE guy, well half of his face height was nose. The OP nose is something like 1/3 of total face height. Only paper I've seen strong nasal bone forward projection linked with possible (but likely not necessary) nasal convexity AND shortness of nose is the Kylälahti paper. And Kylälahti had very short nose, only Ainu of Japan had similarily short noses. Obviously OP guy would be extreme example even by Kylälahti standards, but put all those requirements together and that is the general plotting you can gauge the guy into with at least some certainty as outlier member.

I don't even know what it is "Kylälahti"

[Steppe Timelord]

lol @ some of the comments/classification in this thread :picard1: :D

I agree, nose length is too short for both arabid/armenoid/dinarid. It's actually PIE nose, with more CHG atavism. Has nothing to do with semites. Or, some of the original R1a people must have looked like arabs/albanians then..

He's corded nordid mostly.

Also that map from humanphenotypes is fake. That's not a strong argument, "arabid" types in far northeastern europe.


Here's a similar type of that nose, this canadian actor. Who just looks british to me. Keltic type.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BODU1MTE4Mzk3Ml5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMzA4MDYyNQ@@._ V1_UY1200_CR585,0,630,1200_AL_.jpg



I don't even know what it is "Kylalahti"

He doesn't even fit into the kylahati description, the nose should be straighter in that type but with the same high root.

[Immanenz]

Corded Nordids have probably on average even more hyperleptophrine noses than Dinarids etc. He has an Armenoid shape to me.
And the Canadian actor looks half Italian to me

[Steppe Timelord]

Corded Nordids have probably on average even more hyperleptophrine noses than Dinarids etc. He has an Armenoid shape to me.
And the Canadian actor looks half Italian to me

Cordeds vary, they don't look the same.
That shape is for sure not armenoid, then there are a lot of keltic types who are armenoid too lol.

It's unlikely that he's half italian, since he's from Newfoundland and labrador.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newfoundland_and_Labrador#Language
English is the primary language there, french language comes the second and is like 0.5% compared to 97.7% English language speakers. Italian language speakers being less than 0.1 lmao, it is likely for him to have chinese or french ancestry based on that legit census. Stop trying to nitpick.

So, there was no major influx of "italians" for him to have italian ancestors lol, he looks french at best.

He also reminds me of Jamie Bell, who is of the same KN type, but with more CM traits. Jonny Harris looks like a gracilized KN version of him. But they have almost the same nose type.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Jamie_Bell-8448_%28cropped%29.jpg/220px-Jamie_Bell-8448_%28cropped%29.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1331022371294224386/FtVwwIb2_400x400.jpg

compare with:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Jonny_Harris_at_the_2013_CFC_Annual_Gala_%26_Aucti on.jpg/398px-Jonny_Harris_at_the_2013_CFC_Annual_Gala_%26_Aucti on.jpg

see? similar type. Others would guess him as british too no doubt. Even Oliver109 said he knows somebody having the same general face, nasal shape.

Then there's also some other acteur, from the same region of the country as the one you say he looks half italian btw, Mark O'Brien, who is kinda similar to Jamie Bell, only this one has stronger CM input(brunn)
Next to the other acteur(they both played in Murdoch) He's in the far right in this image:
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTQzODAxMzA3MV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwNzAwMzAwMTE@._ V1_FMjpg_UY828_.jpg
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTk0Njk5MjQxMV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMzQxNzkxMw@@._ V1_FMjpg_UX600_.jpg

So, this estonian player can't have any armenoid or taurid. Only if it's ancient, it's like some PIE atavism. The nose is found in KN types, so in some corded types too. It's not the first time I hear Kelto-Corded classification. But of course, people like to make fun of, persons with this kind of nose. He's still northeastern european. It's even more 'tarded to trust the humanphenotypes map as if he has any arabid in him. hahaha, arabids look radically different even in B&W pics.

Fun fact about that Jonny Harris guy, there's also some other English acteur named Johnny Harris and he looks textbook low vaulted KN, I think he's somewhere posted in this site.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/Attends_the_EE_British_Academy_Film_Awards_%28BAFT As%29_held_at_Royal_Albert_Hall_on_February_18%2C_ 2018_in_London%2C_England.jpg

Final verdict: Stonehenge + Steppe.

And this estonian player doesn't look peculiar to me, I'd still guess him as some type of northern european. Doesn't look jewish at all. In fact he looks proto-nordid. One of the steppe looks. He could pass in ukraine as well I believe...

[Harkonnen]

lol @ some of the comments/classification in this thread :picard1: :D

I agree, nose length is too short for both arabid/armenoid/dinarid. It's actually PIE nose, with more CHG atavism. Has nothing to do with semites. Or, some of the original R1a people must have looked like arabs/albanians then..

He's corded nordid mostly.

Also that map from humanphenotypes is fake. That's not a strong argument, "arabid" types in far northeastern europe.


Here's a similar type of that nose, this canadian actor. Who just looks british to me. Keltic type.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BODU1MTE4Mzk3Ml5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMzA4MDYyNQ@@._ V1_UY1200_CR585,0,630,1200_AL_.jpg




He doesn't even fit into the kylahati description, the nose should be straighter in that type but with the same high root.

Guy on that pic look 100 Jew. OP guy Arabid+Kylälahtic

[Roy]

Nordic + Armenoid

He has a broken nose imho. For me this Estonian has no Armenoid elements whatsoever.

[Tongio]

East nordic + Noric , nothing armenoid about him , his nose is a Roman nose, not uncommon in europeans less mixed with asians .

[Immanenz]

He has a broken nose imho. For me this Estonian has no Armenoid elements whatsoever.

Its the same useless rhetoric... You classified a lot of people as Armenoid with no clear whatever just because you knew they had West Asian ancestry...

Ignoring the nose he is a Farmer Nordid. Passes in Southeuro perfectly
http://lff.lt/comet/person/_resized/13926_-305205461_285_365.jpg

[chociprasa]

Nordo-Baltid + Armenoid