PDA

View Full Version : Iam half german and half montenegrin albanian. Do i have slavic roots?



Adler4093
01-11-2021, 09:21 PM
Eurogenes K13

Population
North_Atlantic 33.46 Pct
Baltic 28.51 Pct
West_Med 14.93 Pct
West_Asian 3.15 Pct
East_Med 15.26 Pct
Red_Sea 2.67 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.23 Pct
Siberian 1.08 Pct
Amerindian 0.39 Pct
Oceanian 0.33 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

# Population Percent

1 North_Atlantic 33.46
2 Baltic 28.51
3 East_Med 15.26
4 West_Med 14.93
5 West_Asian 3.15
6 Red_Sea 2.67
7 Siberian 1.08


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 6.88
2 Serbian 7.84
3 Austrian 7.95
4 East_German 9.53
5 Croatian 10.93
6 Romanian 11.57
7 Moldavian 11.57
8 West_German 12.13
9 South_Dutch 13.36
10 French 14.03
11 Bulgarian 14.18
12 South_Polish 15.34
13 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.16
14 North_German 16.29
15 Ukrainian 17.01
16 Southeast_English 18.05
17 North_Swedish 18.37
18 Danish 18.39
19 North_Italian 18.42
20 Portuguese 18.5

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.3% Southwest_Finnish + 48.7% Tuscan @ 3.61
2 56.7% Southwest_Finnish + 43.3% West_Sicilian @ 4.35
3 53.8% Tuscan + 46.2% Estonian @ 4.43
4 53% Tuscan + 47% Finnish @ 4.49
5 54.5% North_Italian + 45.5% Belorussian @ 4.55
6 77.4% East_German + 22.6% Ashkenazi @ 4.58
7 56.8% North_Italian + 43.2% Finnish @ 4.6
8 87.1% East_German + 12.9% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.68
9 57.6% North_Italian + 42.4% Estonian @ 4.68
10 61.8% North_Swedish + 38.2% Ashkenazi @ 4.77
11 80.9% East_German + 19.1% Italian_Jewish @ 4.78
12 78.4% Hungarian + 21.6% North_Italian @ 4.84
13 53.3% North_Swedish + 46.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.85
14 78.5% Hungarian + 21.5% Portuguese @ 4.85
15 64.1% Southwest_Finnish + 35.9% Italian_Jewish @ 4.88
16 80.6% Hungarian + 19.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.88
17 80.6% Hungarian + 19.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.88
18 66.8% North_Swedish + 33.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.88
19 81.1% Hungarian + 18.9% Tuscan @ 4.91
20 90% Austrian + 10% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.93

Oracle 4:

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Hungarian @ 7.895847
2 Serbian @ 9.052513
3 Austrian @ 9.213189
4 East_German @ 11.028616
5 Croatian @ 12.529087
6 Moldavian @ 13.324594
7 Romanian @ 13.338938
8 West_German @ 13.942443
9 South_Dutch @ 15.401565
10 French @ 15.979462
11 Bulgarian @ 16.347485
12 South_Polish @ 17.468542
13 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 18.483280
14 North_German @ 18.809841
15 Ukrainian @ 19.394180
16 North_Italian @ 20.729851
17 Portuguese @ 20.759758
18 Southeast_English @ 20.814888
19 Spanish_Galicia @ 21.020109
20 North_Swedish @ 21.076450

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_Finnish +50% Tuscan @ 4.080185


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian +25% Italian_Jewish +25% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.857402


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Ashkenazi + Belorussian + North_Swedish + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.274043
2 Ashkenazi + Belorussian + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.327028
3 Ashkenazi + Lithuanian + North_Swedish + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.339154
4 Ashkenazi + Belorussian + North_Swedish + Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.353387
5 Estonian + Italian_Jewish + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.384609
6 Estonian + Italian_Jewish + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.397966
7 Ashkenazi + Belorussian + North_Swedish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.435760
8 Ashkenazi + Belorussian + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.438491
9 Ashkenazi + Southwest_Finnish + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.527938
10 Ashkenazi + Belorussian + North_Swedish + Portuguese @ 3.530319
11 Ashkenazi + Estonian + North_Swedish + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.536535
12 Estonian + Italian_Jewish + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.537163
13 Ashkenazi + Lithuanian + North_Swedish + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.557680
14 Ashkenazi + Belorussian + North_Swedish + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.571943
15 Belorussian + Italian_Jewish + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.583087
16 Ashkenazi + Estonian_Polish + North_Swedish + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.585742
17 Ashkenazi + Estonian + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.596193
18 Ashkenazi + Belorussian + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.606038
19 Ashkenazi + Estonian_Polish + North_Swedish + Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.610454
20 Ashkenazi + Belorussian + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.621645

Done.

Elapsed time 0.7408 seconds.


Eurogenes K15

Population
North_Sea 21.28 Pct
Atlantic 22.05 Pct
Baltic 18.92 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.99 Pct
West_Med 10.63 Pct
West_Asian 3.69 Pct
East_Med 11.32 Pct
Red_Sea 2.26 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.45 Pct
Amerindian 0.25 Pct
Oceanian 0.09 Pct
Northeast_African 0.07 Pct
Sub-Saharan -


# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 22.05
2 North_Sea 21.28
3 Baltic 18.92
4 East_Med 11.32
5 West_Med 10.63
6 Eastern_Euro 8.99
7 West_Asian 3.69
8 Red_Sea 2.26
9 Siberian 0.45
10 Amerindian 0.25
11 Oceanian 0.09
12 Northeast_African 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Austrian 5.92
2 Hungarian 7.24
3 Serbian 7.77
4 Croatian 9.29
5 East_German 9.47
6 Romanian 10.36
7 Moldavian 11.03
8 Bulgarian 12.59
9 South_Dutch 12.72
10 French 13.28
11 West_German 13.94
12 South_Polish 14
13 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.29
14 North_German 14.93
15 Ukrainian 15.13
16 Polish 15.86
17 Southwest_Finnish 15.93
18 Spanish_Cataluna 16.03
19 Spanish_Galicia 16.15
20 North_Italian 16.24

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.7% North_Italian + 44.3% Estonian @ 4.14
2 51.9% Tuscan + 48.1% Estonian @ 4.51
3 76.3% Hungarian + 23.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.57
4 77.5% Hungarian + 22.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.69
5 90.9% Austrian + 9.1% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.72
6 58.8% North_Italian + 41.2% Lithuanian @ 4.72
7 83.6% Austrian + 16.4% Tuscan @ 4.74
8 75.8% Hungarian + 24.2% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.75
9 83.7% Austrian + 16.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.77
10 89.6% Austrian + 10.4% Italian_Jewish @ 4.77
11 90% Austrian + 10% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.78
12 81.7% Austrian + 18.3% North_Italian @ 4.8
13 79.1% Hungarian + 20.9% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.81
14 74.7% Hungarian + 25.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.84
15 94% Austrian + 6% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.84
16 54.5% North_Italian + 45.5% Belorussian @ 4.85
17 87.1% Austrian + 12.9% West_Sicilian @ 4.87
18 91.3% Austrian + 8.7% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.9
19 89% Austrian + 11% South_Italian @ 4.9
20 50.6% Polish + 49.4% North_Italian @ 4.91

Oracle 4:

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Austrian @ 6.923495
2 Hungarian @ 8.473573
3 Serbian @ 9.048781
4 Croatian @ 10.868922
5 East_German @ 11.169659
6 Romanian @ 12.104171
7 Moldavian @ 12.900408
8 Bulgarian @ 14.722469
9 South_Dutch @ 14.802244
10 French @ 15.271206
11 West_German @ 16.226791
12 South_Polish @ 16.296043
13 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 16.639481
14 North_German @ 17.423288
15 Ukrainian @ 17.641712
16 Spanish_Galicia @ 18.202192
17 Spanish_Cataluna @ 18.219685
18 Southwest_Finnish @ 18.404144
19 North_Italian @ 18.444639
20 Polish @ 18.460962

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian +50% Tuscan @ 5.309267


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian +25% South_Italian +25% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.051196


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Greek + Lithuanian + Spanish_Valencia + Swedish @ 3.784996
2 Greek + Lithuanian + Spanish_Murcia + Swedish @ 3.836527
3 Greek + Lithuanian + North_German + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.963492
4 Greek + Lithuanian + Spanish_Andalucia + Swedish @ 3.966144
5 Greek + Lithuanian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Swedish @ 3.970313
6 Lithuanian + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Sicilian @ 3.984076
7 Lithuanian + South_Italian + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.989983
8 East_Sicilian + Lithuanian + Spanish_Valencia + Swedish @ 4.000156
9 Greek + Lithuanian + North_German + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.009448
10 Lithuanian + South_Italian + Southwest_French + Swedish @ 4.010512
11 Lithuanian + South_Italian + Spanish_Valencia + Swedish @ 4.011491
12 Greek_Thessaly + Lithuanian + North_German + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.020252
13 Central_Greek + Lithuanian + Spanish_Valencia + Swedish @ 4.022744
14 Algerian_Jewish + Austrian + Irish + Lithuanian @ 4.026273
15 Lithuanian + Sephardic_Jewish + Southwest_French + Swedish @ 4.026978
16 Greek + Lithuanian + North_Dutch + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.031669
17 Greek + Lithuanian + North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.040080
18 Lithuanian + Spanish_Valencia + Swedish + West_Sicilian @ 4.041774
19 Estonian + Estonian + South_Italian + Spanish_Aragon @ 4.051196
20 Greek_Thessaly + Lithuanian + North_German + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.052788

Done.

Elapsed time 1.0233 seconds.
MDLP K16 Modern

Using 1 population approximation:
1 German_Germany @ 5.505591
2 French_NorthwestFrance @ 5.739707
3 French_EastFrance @ 5.817620
4 German_SouthGermany @ 7.039824
5 Croat_Croatia @ 7.087438
6 Austrian_Austria @ 7.195234
7 German_Lipsian_(Saxony) @ 7.233855
8 Welsh_Wales @ 7.476542
9 Dutch_Netherlands @ 7.586494
10 Bosnian_Bosnia-Herzegovina @ 7.676163
11 Croat_Bosnia-Herzegovina @ 7.817629
12 Scottish_Fife @ 7.840871
13 Slovenian_Slovenia @ 7.845565
14 Scottish_Dumfries_Galloway @ 7.889578
15 Serbian_Serbia @ 7.911294
16 Serbian_Bosnia-Herzegovina @ 8.045049
17 Provencal_Provence @ 8.050843
18 Scottish_Grampian @ 8.239231
19 Romanian_Apuseni @ 8.280292
20 French_WestFrance @ 8.287767

puntDNAL K12 Modern

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Romanian @ 2.678434
2 Croatian @ 5.367664
3 Belgian @ 6.977778
4 Bulgarian @ 7.099305
5 French @ 8.356588
6 Dutch_South @ 8.365550
7 Utahn_European @ 8.860904
8 German_South @ 8.968009
9 Hungarian @ 9.238648
10 English_South @ 10.833404
11 Irish @ 12.248775
12 Italian_Bergamo @ 12.271499
13 Albanian @ 12.292164
14 Dutch_North @ 13.059952
15 Czech @ 13.336922
16 German_North @ 13.480319
17 Greek @ 13.810664
18 Spanish_Southwest @ 14.103664
19 Scottish_West @ 14.445837
20 Spanish_Northeast @ 14.492476

puntDNAL K10 Ancient

Using 1 population approximation:
1 French @ 5.060323
2 Croatian @ 5.404438
3 Bulgarian @ 5.558174
4 German_South @ 5.664910
5 Hungarian @ 7.027683
6 Utahn_white @ 7.843569
7 Irish @ 8.686404
8 Italian_North @ 9.381758
9 English_South @ 9.936685
10 German_North @ 11.598627
11 Czech @ 11.870396
12 Albanian @ 12.304005
13 Greek @ 13.058875
14 Spanish_Northeast @ 13.323733
15 Scottish_West @ 13.578965
16 Tuscan @ 13.776834
17 Spanish_Southwest @ 14.756227
18 Italian_South @ 15.011796
19 Ukrainian @ 16.066578
20 Norwegian @ 16.726889

puntDNAL K12 Ancient

1 Alberstedt_LN_I0118 @ 7.942336
2 Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 @ 8.874387
3 Halberstadt_LBA_I0099 @ 10.413528
4 Unetice_EBA_I0117 @ 10.803910
5 Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 @ 11.219086
6 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN_I0059 @ 13.554442
7 Bell_Beaker_Germany_I1549 @ 13.566544
8 BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 @ 15.066144
9 Vatya_SG_RISE479 @ 16.056751
10 Potapovka_I0419 @ 16.662350
11 Hungary_BA_I1502 @ 17.284981
12 Srubnaya_I0430 @ 17.537895
13 Corded_Ware_Estonia_RISE00 @ 18.652927
14 Corded_Ware_Germany_I0103 @ 20.836281
15 Srubnaya_I0232 @ 21.022734
16 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 @ 22.439566
17 Sintashta_MBA_RISE395 @ 22.863773
18 Corded_Ware_Germany_I0104 @ 22.944427
19 Andronovo_SG_RISE505 @ 23.164730
20 Hungary_CA_I1497 @ 29.936842


Thank you for your answers :)

Scandal
01-11-2021, 09:22 PM
You didn't post all of your k13 coordinates.

17571imre
01-11-2021, 09:26 PM
Eurogenes K13

West_Med 14.93
5 West_Asian 3.15
6 Red_Sea 2.67
7 Siberian 1.08
8 Amerindian 0.39
9 Oceanian 0.33
10 East_Asian 0.23

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 6.88
2 Serbian 7.84
3 Austrian 7.95
4 East_German 9.53
5 Croatian 10.93
6 Romanian 11.57
7 Moldavian 11.57
8 West_German 12.13
9 South_Dutch 13.36
10 French 14.03
11 Bulgarian 14.18
12 South_Polish 15.34
13 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.16
14 North_German 16.29
15 Ukrainian 17.01
16 Southeast_English 18.05
17 North_Swedish 18.37
18 Danish 18.39
19 North_Italian 18.42
20 Portuguese 18.5

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.3% Southwest_Finnish + 48.7% Tuscan @ 3.61
2 56.7% Southwest_Finnish + 43.3% West_Sicilian @ 4.35
3 53.8% Tuscan + 46.2% Estonian @ 4.43
4 53% Tuscan + 47% Finnish @ 4.49
5 54.5% North_Italian + 45.5% Belorussian @ 4.55
6 77.4% East_German + 22.6% Ashkenazi @ 4.58
7 56.8% North_Italian + 43.2% Finnish @ 4.6
8 87.1% East_German + 12.9% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.68
9 57.6% North_Italian + 42.4% Estonian @ 4.68
10 61.8% North_Swedish + 38.2% Ashkenazi @ 4.77
11 80.9% East_German + 19.1% Italian_Jewish @ 4.78
12 78.4% Hungarian + 21.6% North_Italian @ 4.84
13 53.3% North_Swedish + 46.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.85
14 78.5% Hungarian + 21.5% Portuguese @ 4.85
15 64.1% Southwest_Finnish + 35.9% Italian_Jewish @ 4.88
16 80.6% Hungarian + 19.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.88
17 80.6% Hungarian + 19.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.88
18 66.8% North_Swedish + 33.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.88
19 81.1% Hungarian + 18.9% Tuscan @ 4.91
20 90% Austrian + 10% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.93



Eurogenes K15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Austrian 5.92
2 Hungarian 7.24
3 Serbian 7.77
4 Croatian 9.29
5 East_German 9.47
6 Romanian 10.36
7 Moldavian 11.03
8 Bulgarian 12.59
9 South_Dutch 12.72
10 French 13.28
11 West_German 13.94
12 South_Polish 14
13 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.29
14 North_German 14.93
15 Ukrainian 15.13
16 Polish 15.86
17 Southwest_Finnish 15.93
18 Spanish_Cataluna 16.03
19 Spanish_Galicia 16.15
20 North_Italian 16.24

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.7% North_Italian + 44.3% Estonian @ 4.14
2 51.9% Tuscan + 48.1% Estonian @ 4.51
3 76.3% Hungarian + 23.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.57
4 77.5% Hungarian + 22.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.69
5 90.9% Austrian + 9.1% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.72
6 58.8% North_Italian + 41.2% Lithuanian @ 4.72
7 83.6% Austrian + 16.4% Tuscan @ 4.74
8 75.8% Hungarian + 24.2% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.75
9 83.7% Austrian + 16.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.77
10 89.6% Austrian + 10.4% Italian_Jewish @ 4.77
11 90% Austrian + 10% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.78
12 81.7% Austrian + 18.3% North_Italian @ 4.8
13 79.1% Hungarian + 20.9% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.81
14 74.7% Hungarian + 25.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.84
15 94% Austrian + 6% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.84
16 54.5% North_Italian + 45.5% Belorussian @ 4.85
17 87.1% Austrian + 12.9% West_Sicilian @ 4.87
18 91.3% Austrian + 8.7% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.9
19 89% Austrian + 11% South_Italian @ 4.9
20 50.6% Polish + 49.4% North_Italian @ 4.91

MDLP K16 Modern

Using 1 population approximation:
1 German_Germany @ 5.505591
2 French_NorthwestFrance @ 5.739707
3 French_EastFrance @ 5.817620
4 German_SouthGermany @ 7.039824
5 Croat_Croatia @ 7.087438
6 Austrian_Austria @ 7.195234
7 German_Lipsian_(Saxony) @ 7.233855
8 Welsh_Wales @ 7.476542
9 Dutch_Netherlands @ 7.586494
10 Bosnian_Bosnia-Herzegovina @ 7.676163
11 Croat_Bosnia-Herzegovina @ 7.817629
12 Scottish_Fife @ 7.840871
13 Slovenian_Slovenia @ 7.845565
14 Scottish_Dumfries_Galloway @ 7.889578
15 Serbian_Serbia @ 7.911294
16 Serbian_Bosnia-Herzegovina @ 8.045049
17 Provencal_Provence @ 8.050843
18 Scottish_Grampian @ 8.239231
19 Romanian_Apuseni @ 8.280292
20 French_WestFrance @ 8.287767

puntDNAL K12 Modern

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Romanian @ 2.678434
2 Croatian @ 5.367664
3 Belgian @ 6.977778
4 Bulgarian @ 7.099305
5 French @ 8.356588
6 Dutch_South @ 8.365550
7 Utahn_European @ 8.860904
8 German_South @ 8.968009
9 Hungarian @ 9.238648
10 English_South @ 10.833404
11 Irish @ 12.248775
12 Italian_Bergamo @ 12.271499
13 Albanian @ 12.292164
14 Dutch_North @ 13.059952
15 Czech @ 13.336922
16 German_North @ 13.480319
17 Greek @ 13.810664
18 Spanish_Southwest @ 14.103664
19 Scottish_West @ 14.445837
20 Spanish_Northeast @ 14.492476

puntDNAL K10 Ancient

Using 1 population approximation:
1 French @ 5.060323
2 Croatian @ 5.404438
3 Bulgarian @ 5.558174
4 German_South @ 5.664910
5 Hungarian @ 7.027683
6 Utahn_white @ 7.843569
7 Irish @ 8.686404
8 Italian_North @ 9.381758
9 English_South @ 9.936685
10 German_North @ 11.598627
11 Czech @ 11.870396
12 Albanian @ 12.304005
13 Greek @ 13.058875
14 Spanish_Northeast @ 13.323733
15 Scottish_West @ 13.578965
16 Tuscan @ 13.776834
17 Spanish_Southwest @ 14.756227
18 Italian_South @ 15.011796
19 Ukrainian @ 16.066578
20 Norwegian @ 16.726889

puntDNAL K12 Ancient

1 Alberstedt_LN_I0118 @ 7.942336
2 Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 @ 8.874387
3 Halberstadt_LBA_I0099 @ 10.413528
4 Unetice_EBA_I0117 @ 10.803910
5 Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 @ 11.219086
6 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN_I0059 @ 13.554442
7 Bell_Beaker_Germany_I1549 @ 13.566544
8 BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 @ 15.066144
9 Vatya_SG_RISE479 @ 16.056751
10 Potapovka_I0419 @ 16.662350
11 Hungary_BA_I1502 @ 17.284981
12 Srubnaya_I0430 @ 17.537895
13 Corded_Ware_Estonia_RISE00 @ 18.652927
14 Corded_Ware_Germany_I0103 @ 20.836281
15 Srubnaya_I0232 @ 21.022734
16 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 @ 22.439566
17 Sintashta_MBA_RISE395 @ 22.863773
18 Corded_Ware_Germany_I0104 @ 22.944427
19 Andronovo_SG_RISE505 @ 23.164730
20 Hungary_CA_I1497 @ 29.936842


Thank you for your answers :)

can you also post your oracle 4 results from k13 and k15. thankyou!

Adler4093
01-11-2021, 09:26 PM
Oh okay i have a look and iam going to edit it. Thanks

Leto
01-11-2021, 09:27 PM
Post your full admix proportions from K13 and K15. Also where is your German side from, which Bundesland?

Adler4093
01-11-2021, 09:34 PM
Deletet

Adler4093
01-11-2021, 09:36 PM
From Lower Saxony. But my Grandpa. The Dad of my mom was from prussia. Near Koenigsberg. But my german Grandma is from lower saxony

Leto
01-11-2021, 09:41 PM
The admixture proportions are still missing.

If your German mother is half East Prussian, then you most definitely have some Balto-Slavic in you. Also some minor Slavic may be present in Albanians too.

Adler4093
01-11-2021, 10:00 PM
I edit the first text. And added oracle 4 both of k13 and 15. Iam sorry if something is missing. Please tell me if something what you need to know is missing. Iam new to all of this. I dont know so much about this. Thank you :)

Adler4093
01-11-2021, 10:19 PM
i editet the missing parts.

Leto
01-12-2021, 10:55 AM
Yes, you do have some Eastern European. There was no need to open a second thread, this one is just fine. I think whatever commercial test results you got should also show Eastern European.

Hulu
01-12-2021, 11:35 AM
I dont think you have any slavic. Both k13 and k15 dont show any slavic populations on the first few 2 population approximations.

Can you post or private message me a pic. I am curious to see how you came out looking.

CommonSense
01-12-2021, 01:17 PM
Your grandpa from Prussia is likely more of an assimilated local than a Germanic person, by ancestry.

Hulu
01-12-2021, 01:31 PM
Your grandpa from Prussia is likely more of an assimilated local than a Germanic person, by ancestry.

But not a slavic one, more like a finnish / estonian one


Eurogenes K13

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.3% Southwest_Finnish + 48.7% Tuscan @ 3.61
2 56.7% Southwest_Finnish + 43.3% West_Sicilian @ 4.35
3 53.8% Tuscan + 46.2% Estonian @ 4.43
4 53% Tuscan + 47% Finnish @ 4.49


Eurogenes K15

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.7% North_Italian + 44.3% Estonian @ 4.14
2 51.9% Tuscan + 48.1% Estonian @ 4.51
3 76.3% Hungarian + 23.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.57
4 77.5% Hungarian + 22.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.69
5 90.9% Austrian + 9.1% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.72
6 58.8% North_Italian + 41.2% Lithuanian @ 4.72

Leto
01-12-2021, 01:34 PM
The guy is 28% Baltic being half Albanian and half German. Check the averages for Germans and Albanians and you'll see that his score is kinda high.

Hulu
01-12-2021, 01:36 PM
The guy is 28% Baltic being half Albanian and half German. Check the averages for Germans and Albanians and you'll see that his score is kinda high.

Check out the 2 populations. I would guess the german was a finnic like person.

Leto
01-12-2021, 01:40 PM
Check out the 2 populations. I would guess the german was a finnic like person.
That doesn't have to be accurate. There is an updated spreadsheet. Baltic Germans have no Finnish ancestry, they did not even live in Finland.

Leto
01-12-2021, 01:42 PM
@Adler4093

This is a great tool
http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/
Check out the updated oracles, they're much better.

Luke35
01-12-2021, 02:41 PM
I was trying to be helpful so I played a little bit with Vahaduo K13 for you, but I am not sure if this answers your question, which is I assume; can Slavic ancestry be pinpointed in your results? And if so, how much?

On paper, as Leto pointed out, you likely have some Slavic or genetically Slavic-like ancestors.

I ran you through Vahaduo with these sources:


Belorussian,29.37,49.40,7.59,3.87,4.98,1.44,0.97,0 .18,1.32,0.18,0.38,0.20,0.13
East_German,37.34,32.19,14.57,6.15,6.42,0.96,1.46, 0.02,0.19,0.38,0.05,0.13,0.14
East_Finnish,30.71,49.54,4.49,1.63,0.22,0.82,1.48, 0.70,8.59,0.71,0.69,0.05,0.37
Finnish,34.17,47.69,4.43,2.21,0.65,0.42,0.53,0.96, 6.48,0.90,0.81,0.50,0.26
North_German,47.17,27.37,10.33,7.12,4.24,0.91,1.46 ,0.04,0.12,0.43,0.28,0.37,0.17
West_German,43.14,22.44,14.78,6.85,8.54,0.86,0.94, 0.13,0.40,0.60,0.64,0.47,0.22
Montenegrin,24.61,25.37,18.18,10.20,17.36,2.35,0.1 3,0.25,0.75,0.43,0.27,0.02,0.06

and got this result:

Target: Adler
Distance: 6.0019% / 6.00193654
44.7 Montenegrin
38.7 West_German
16.6 Belorussian

Then with just these:


East_German,37.34,32.19,14.57,6.15,6.42,0.96,1.46, 0.02,0.19,0.38,0.05,0.13,0.14
North_German,47.17,27.37,10.33,7.12,4.24,0.91,1.46 ,0.04,0.12,0.43,0.28,0.37,0.17
West_German,43.14,22.44,14.78,6.85,8.54,0.86,0.94, 0.13,0.40,0.60,0.64,0.47,0.22
Montenegrin,24.61,25.37,18.18,10.20,17.36,2.35,0.1 3,0.25,0.75,0.43,0.27,0.02,0.06

And you scored this:

Target: Adler
Distance: 6.5431% / 6.54307456
44.8 Montenegrin
38.9 East_German
16.3 West_German

You come out close enough to half Montenegrin, so that makes sense. Overall the distance is high 6+, so probably something is missing here but it will take some investigation. Distance might be high due to your mix, so maybe a "normal" distance is not achievable.

As for Slavic, you can score a lot of East German, also Belarus fits in your mix, so I think this offers the possibility that for you Slavic admix is visible on K13.

CommonSense
01-12-2021, 02:44 PM
I was trying to be helpful so I played a little bit with Vahaduo K13 for you, but I am not sure if this answers your question, which is I assume; can Slavic ancestry be pinpointed in your results? And if so, how much?

On paper, as Leto pointed out, you likely have some Slavic or genetically Slavic-like ancestors.

I ran you through Vahaduo with these sources:


Belorussian,29.37,49.40,7.59,3.87,4.98,1.44,0.97,0 .18,1.32,0.18,0.38,0.20,0.13
East_German,37.34,32.19,14.57,6.15,6.42,0.96,1.46, 0.02,0.19,0.38,0.05,0.13,0.14
East_Finnish,30.71,49.54,4.49,1.63,0.22,0.82,1.48, 0.70,8.59,0.71,0.69,0.05,0.37
Finnish,34.17,47.69,4.43,2.21,0.65,0.42,0.53,0.96, 6.48,0.90,0.81,0.50,0.26
North_German,47.17,27.37,10.33,7.12,4.24,0.91,1.46 ,0.04,0.12,0.43,0.28,0.37,0.17
West_German,43.14,22.44,14.78,6.85,8.54,0.86,0.94, 0.13,0.40,0.60,0.64,0.47,0.22
Montenegrin,24.61,25.37,18.18,10.20,17.36,2.35,0.1 3,0.25,0.75,0.43,0.27,0.02,0.06

and got this result:

Target: Adler
Distance: 6.0019% / 6.00193654
44.7 Montenegrin
38.7 West_German
16.6 Belorussian

Then with just these:


East_German,37.34,32.19,14.57,6.15,6.42,0.96,1.46, 0.02,0.19,0.38,0.05,0.13,0.14
North_German,47.17,27.37,10.33,7.12,4.24,0.91,1.46 ,0.04,0.12,0.43,0.28,0.37,0.17
West_German,43.14,22.44,14.78,6.85,8.54,0.86,0.94, 0.13,0.40,0.60,0.64,0.47,0.22
Montenegrin,24.61,25.37,18.18,10.20,17.36,2.35,0.1 3,0.25,0.75,0.43,0.27,0.02,0.06

And you scored this:

Target: Adler
Distance: 6.5431% / 6.54307456
44.8 Montenegrin
38.9 East_German
16.3 West_German

You come out close enough to half Montenegrin, so that makes sense. Overall the distance is high 6+, so probably something is missing here but it will take some investigation. Distance might be high due to your mix, so maybe a "normal" distance is not achievable.

As for Slavic, you can score a lot of East German, also Belarus fits in your mix, so I think this offers the possibility that Slavic admix is visible on K13.

Montenegrins (Serbian speakers) are different genetically from Albanians living in Montenegro. There's a population referrence for Montenegrin Abanians on vahaduo K13, so you should try with that one instead.

Adler4093
01-12-2021, 05:11 PM
I want to thank all of you for helping me. I will try vahaduo know.

Jana
01-12-2021, 05:14 PM
You surely have some Slavic since both Albanians and east Germans have Slavic admixture, but it will be minor.

Leto
01-12-2021, 05:16 PM
@Adler4093

Can you please Dodecad K12b components? I don't need the oracles, only the values.

Adler4093
01-12-2021, 05:36 PM
Dodecad K12b

Population
Gedrosia 2.39 Pct
Siberian 0.86 Pct
Northwest_African 0.57 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 29.78 Pct
North_European 41.57 Pct
South_Asian 1.14 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 6.61 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 17.08 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Leto
01-12-2021, 05:50 PM
Strangely enough Dodecad won't up pinpoint any Germanic in your results

Distance to: Adler
5.22393530 Croat
5.87132864 Bosnian
6.31026941 Slovenian
6.36781752 HUN_Szekely
6.38830964 Serb
6.68630690 MD_North
8.15139865 MD_Center
8.50023529 Hungarians
9.21685955 Montenegrin
9.26731353 Bavarian_German

Target: Adler
Distance: 2.4460% / 2.44595182 | ADC: 0.25x RC
80.3 Slovenian
14.8 Swiss_Italian
4.9 Kuwait2

Target: Adler
Distance: 1.5321% / 1.53206537 | R3P
47.8 Belorussian
46.8 Swiss_Italian
5.4 Kuwait2

Target: Adler
Distance: 1.1125% / 1.11253704 | R4P
49.6 Lithuanian
25.2 Albanian_Kosovo
21.0 Sardinian
4.2 Kuwait2

Leto
01-12-2021, 05:51 PM
I'm also curious what you look like. More German/Northern European or more Albanian/Balkanic? :)

Adler4093
01-12-2021, 06:20 PM
i look like north european.

Adler4093
01-12-2021, 06:21 PM
but a friend onces said i look russian

Adler4093
01-12-2021, 06:28 PM
49.6 Lithuanian
25.2 Albanian_Kosovo
21.0 Sardinian
4.2 Kuweit

interesting result. so after dodecard i can call my self half Lithuanian xD, because of the 1.11.. distance or iam i wrong i dont know how to interpret those results.

I used Myheritage and it said i would have 59,4% Balkan; England 21,2%; Greek & Itlay 17,5%; 1,9% finish

Leto
01-12-2021, 06:32 PM
I think your Balto-Slavic got sucked into the Balkan on MyHeritage.

Adler4093
01-12-2021, 06:40 PM
those results mean i have high lithuan roots, high belarussian, high slovene,high italian, 25/25 Albanian-Sardinain and some Kuwait. But what does Kuwait mean in my result. Its the Capital of lebanon. And do i interpret the results correctly?

Leto
01-12-2021, 07:11 PM
those results mean i have high lithuan roots, high belarussian, high slovene,high italian, 25/25 Albanian-Sardinain and some Kuwait. But what does Kuwait mean in my result. Its the Capital of lebanon. And do i interpret the results correctly?
That's just a hypothetical model. Calculators give you possible models based on your particular mix and their reference base. They shouldn't be taken literally.

Hulu
01-12-2021, 07:14 PM
i look like north european.

Can you post your pic?

Adler4093
01-12-2021, 07:26 PM
No i dont like to post myself in a forum. Thanks for understanding.