Which Matters More?

[Nglund]

Y-DNA? Mt-DNA? Or autosomal DNA?

[Sikeliot]

Autosomal.

[Mordid]

Autosomal.

This.

[research_centre]

There is a big difference between the three yet in combination, they reveal the greatest likelihood. As for the first two, Y-DNA testing and mitochondrial DNA or mtDNA testing are ancestral in nature for direct line and maternal purposes generally.

On the other hand, autosomal DNA testing claims or purports to determine the percentages of a genetic ancestry from particular continents or general regions and is used to generally ID likely tribes. There are additional tests that can be run against all of them to narrow factors. However, these are simply conjecture to a great degree based on other factors including statistical records of similar peoples.

Testing that will list geographical origin runs via a person's alleles which distinguish the person's or related families variations on a number of chromosomes and again this is measured across the genome analysed against databases of various populations.

[Frederick]

By looks:

Identical mtDNA and identical autosomal DNA:
http://media.news.de/resources/thumbs/82/e6/855086078_800x600/796804ef0e08050d4e3ffdb571af.jpg

Identical Y-DNA and identical autosomal DNA:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9ofYDvZ9A8A/R1F9RnzIoyI/AAAAAAAAATE/ufLlCJk4e08/s1600-R/DSC01783.JPG

Identical Y-DNA, 50% shared autosomal DNA:
http://www.deine-promis.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Vitali-und-Wladimir-Klitschko.jpg

Same Y-DNA, different autosomal DNA:
http://www.planet-wissen.de/politik_geschichte/deutsche_politik/ursachen_des_zweiten_weltkriegs/img/tempx_portrait_hitler_g.jpghttp://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/08/23/article-1305414-0AE40A63000005DC-863_226x326.jpg

Unfortunately we cant do genetic experiments in wich we clone a human and transfere his egg a different Y-DNA. To see what it looks like if a human with identical autosomal DNA but a different Y-DNA is born.

;)

[Curtis24]

I find Y-DNA more interesting, at least for myself being a man. I like to know where my male ancestors came from, and what kind of men they were :)

[Frederick]

I find Y-DNA more interesting, at least for myself being a man. I like to know where my male ancestors came from, and what kind of men they were :)

What kind of men they where?
Well for most Europeans, there is a 90% chance that they worked as farmers until like 500 years ago. :D

[Ibericus]

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Same Y-DNA, different autosomal DNA:
http://www.planet-wissen.de/politik_geschichte/deutsche_politik/ursachen_des_zweiten_weltkriegs/img/tempx_portrait_hitler_g.jpghttp://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/08/23/article-1305414-0AE40A63000005DC-863_226x326.jpg

Wrong. The subclade which supposedly Hitler belonged is E-V13, a specific Greco-Balkanic, which is quite common also in parts of Central Europe.

[zack]

Why would anyone honestly give a rats ass about yDNA or mtDNA?

You could theoretically have a Y/M dna marker from a non-white ancestor over 2,000 years ago and have no non-white DNA.

This obsession with the Y-DNA seems to be a purely european thing.

[Scrapple]

Why would anyone honestly give a rats ass about yDNA or mtDNA?

You could theoretically have a Y/M dna marker from a non-white ancestor over 2,000 years ago and have no non-white DNA.

This obsession with the Y-DNA seems to be a purely european thing.

They are useful for tracking human migration patterns, we Europeans are curious about the world like that.

[zack]

They are useful for tracking human migration patterns, we Europeans are curious about the world like that.

Im not talking about the european race. Im talking about europeans...over in europe. You would actually think that americans would be more obsessed with yDNA..us being a melting pot and all(wanting to know our roots). But the opposite has happened....if you are white...thats all that matters it seems.

[Bloodeagle]

What kind of men they where?
Well for most Europeans, there is a 90% chance that they worked as farmers until like 500 years ago. :D

Or 60 years ago for some of us peasant folk.:)

[Argyll]

Can someone explain these DNA types to me?

[Sturmgewehr]

Autosomal DNA

[Scrapple]

Can someone explain these DNA types to me?

yDNA is passed down from father to son directly so it represents your straight paternal line

mtDNA is passed from mother to both children but only daughters can pass it on.

aDNA are you all your chromosomes you get 50% from your father and 50% from your mother

[Troll's Puzzle]

Y-DNA doesn't code for anything 'specifically human'.

mtDNA dosn't code for anything 'specifically human'


come on now...



This obsession with the Y-DNA seems to be a purely european thing.

no, not really.

[Loki]

What kind of men they where?
Well for most Europeans, there is a 90% chance that they worked as farmers until like 500 years ago. :D

And for a lucky few of us, they may have been mighty warriors in the Trojan War 3,000 years ago. ;)

[Curtis24]

What kind of men they where?
Well for most Europeans, there is a 90% chance that they worked as farmers until like 500 years ago. :D

Actually, my Y-DNA is from a German Jew, so mine probably worked as money-lenders :)

And some people get to be descended from the knights/aristocrats...

[Odoacer]

It seems autosomal DNA is more important, if talking about the genetic makeup of any given individual. Paternal haplogroups are interesting, but don't do much. ;)

[Curtis24]

It seems autosomal DNA is more important, if talking about the genetic makeup of any given individual. Paternal haplogroups are interesting, but don't do much. ;)

Yeah, but I"m more interested in my male ancestors, for romantic reasons ;) Who doesn't want to picture his great-to-infinity grandad as a Roman legionaire; a Viking sailor; a Greek philosopher; etc.

[Logan]

Of most import: The Ydna is the most specific, Mtdna is similar but less useful at present, Autosomal more inclusive but more vague. They all have their worth, as do the older methods of determining ones ancestry. There must be a better or best in the future.

[Scrapple]

Yeah, but I"m more interested in my male ancestors, for romantic reasons ;) Who doesn't want to picture his great-to-infinity grandad as a Roman legionaire; a Viking sailor; a Greek philosopher; etc.

I imagine my ancestors have been doing what the peasants in this clip are doing.rAaWvVFERVA

[Scrapple]

Im not talking about the european race. Im talking about europeans...over in europe. You would actually think that americans would be more obsessed with yDNA..us being a melting pot and all(wanting to know our roots). But the opposite has happened....if you are white...thats all that matters it seems.

Thanks for clarifying what you meant, I just don't want us to be seen as separate from Europe. I don't want to see Americans vs Europeans.

I view myself as an American of European descent thus a European-American, although I know others on the board might disagree about me being European but I can understand it.