Most Libertarian countries thread

[LostSoul]

I'm Libertarian and I want to know something about the most liberal countries that aren't Liberland or, as anti-Libertarians say "Somalia".

[sean]

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[PaleoEuropean]

If you can't freely own a firearm then the country isn't libertarian.

[JamesBond007]

If you can't freely own a firearm then the country isn't libertarian.

Firearms are obsolete I can program a drone as big as an insect with facial recognition that can laser beam punch a hole in your head and kill you like a deadly bug but it not easy to see or squash. How are your firearms saving you then ?

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[JamesBond007]

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That USA and Canada are libertarian are some fucking kind joke you clown this is not 18th century America. Libertarians, like Ron Paul , never get elected president but are shut out by the two party tyrannical system in the USA.

1.) Many states in America have high and medium level rather than low taxes

2.) The government spies on its citizens via the NSA etc..

3.) When disaster strikes such as Covid or 9/11 the government further restricts freedoms which it then seemingly never repeals.

4.) People can involuntarily be committed to 'mental hopsitals'

etc...

America is not libertarian compared to say Luxembourg.

[Ranger0075]

Iceland during medieval times (930-1264)

[noricum]

I'm Libertarian and I want to know something about the most liberal countries that aren't Liberland or, as anti-Libertarians say "Somalia".

I think the US wins overall, in Europe maybe Czechia. Still you have to decide in which area you need Liberatrianism the most business, religion, drugs, guns etc. You can't have it all everywhere, which only then would be true Libertarianism.

[XenophobicPrussian]

USA, then Switzerland. Eastern Europe, Canada, Finland after that.

[PaleoEuropean]

Firearms are obsolete I can program a drone as big as an insect with facial recognition that can laser beam punch a hole in your head and kill you like a deadly bug but it not easy to see or squash. How are your firearms saving you then ?

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51356y9HBpL._SX315_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

You would need millions of dollars worth of equipment to even attempt that, it's a lot easier said than done.

[PaleoEuropean]

I think the US wins overall, in Europe maybe Czechia. Still you have to decide in which area you need Liberatrianism the most business, religion, drugs, guns etc. You can't have it all everywhere, which only then would be true Libertarianism.

Idk we might be EU level lefty by this time next year.

[Tooting Carmen]

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I know Erdogan has wrecked Turkey to a significant extent, but is it seriously even less libertarian than Syria, Saudi Arabia (!), Iraq and Pakistan? And how are Germany and especially France and Sweden more libertarian than the UK?

[Tooting Carmen]

Oh, and the country that imprisons the most people per capita is the US.

[Ryujin]

Netherlands, Scandinavian nations, Belgium.

[Ryujin]

USA, then Switzerland. Eastern Europe, Canada, Finland after that.

If you don't mean Baltic countries by Eastern Europe, hell no. Eastern Europe is extremely conservative.

[PlattitüdenPaule]

Firearms are obsolete I can program a drone as big as an insect with facial recognition that can laser beam punch a hole in your head and kill you like a deadly bug but it not easy to see or squash. How are your firearms saving you then ?

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51356y9HBpL._SX315_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

Good old spear > weak ass drones.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhbuEUoxntQ

[Ryujin]

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I know Erdogan has wrecked Turkey to a significant extent, but is it seriously even less libertarian than Syria, Saudi Arabia (!), Iraq and Pakistan? And how are Germany and especially France and Sweden more libertarian than the UK?

Turkey has a bad image across the world because of the government's policies. It's probably a political assessment. And I'm sure their criteria are not whether they can drink alcohol, wear miniskirts and have premarital sex or not.:P

But still; there have been free elections in Turkey since 1946 anyway. So it's stupid to place it lower than countries with an absolute monarchy.

[PlattitüdenPaule]

I think the US wins overall, in Europe maybe Czechia. Still you have to decide in which area you need Liberatrianism the most business, religion, drugs, guns etc. You can't have it all everywhere, which only then would be true Libertarianism.


Why czechs? Eternal Hate Festival 2019: a turk who told he was a greece got so severly beaten up by security, just for attending, his blood and teeth were found all over the venue even 3 days after. I can tell many more personal experiences. Also was in aller Welt bewegt dich zu einem solchen Irrglauben?

[Tooting Carmen]

Why czechs? Eternal Hate Festival 2019: a turk who told he was a greece got so severly beaten up by security, just for attending, his blood and teeth were found all over the venue even 3 days after. I can tell many more personal experiences. Also was in aller Welt bewegt dich zu einem solchen Irrglauben?

Czechia seems to be more liberal about sex and morality than most other Eastern European countries - Prague in particular has been a major gay and sex tourist destination and is where a lot of pornography (both gay and straight) is filmed.

[PlattitüdenPaule]

Czechia seems to be more liberal about sex and morality than most other Eastern European countries - Prague in particular has been a major gay and sex tourist destination and is where a lot of pornography (both gay and straight) is filmed.

Well havent seen anything like this and I`m a frequent visitor to Tschechien. It`s a beautiful country with loads of incredibly interesting history after all. People there tend to be very friendly and welcoming(at least to europeans), thats true, but also quiet xenophobic (as in non whites).

[LostSoul]

Bump

[LostSoul]

Ok, so I want to know about libertarian countries regarding:

-Abortion law
-Gay marriage
-Right to bear arms
-non-mandatory vaccinations (particularly those for Covid, not saying I won't get vaccinated, I just want freedom of choice)
-Free enterprises
-Free market
-Freedom of speech (even excluding "hate speech" laws)
etc.

[XenophobicPrussian]

Ok, so I want to know about libertarian countries regarding:

-Abortion law
-Gay marriage
-Right to bear arms
-non-mandatory vaccinations (particularly those for Covid, not saying I won't get vaccinated, I just want freedom of choice)
-Free enterprises
-Free market
-Freedom of speech (even excluding "hate speech" laws)
etc.
Again, USA, Switzerland, then Finland and Canada.

For the non-mandatory vaccinations, probably some random African, Central Asian, etc countries, but they won't have as much free market or freedom of speech.

[Dick]

Again, USA, Switzerland, then Finland and Canada.

For the non-mandatory vaccinations, probably some random African, Central Asian, etc countries, but they won't have as much free market or freedom of speech.

Vaccines won't be mandatory here

[LostSoul]

Vaccines won't be mandatory here

Where?

[Samnium]

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France is very far from being libertarian.

It's a state-focused economy and society.

[Victor]

Firearms are obsolete I can program a drone as big as an insect with facial recognition that can laser beam punch a hole in your head and kill you like a deadly bug but it not easy to see or squash. How are your firearms saving you then ?

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51356y9HBpL._SX315_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

That's not your problem, libertarianism (which i partly agree with) is about what matters for me, not you :D

[Victor]

Uruguay seems to be partly libertarian for me. Classic libertarian states do not exist and will never exist. That's utopia. You can be a libertarian on personal level, allowing yourself what you consider to be needed for you. In a state which doesn't allow its citizens to own firearms, a true individual libertarian would buy and own an illegal one. Democracy is generally bullshit. I can be actually more free in authoritarian Russia (it is authortiarian state, indeed) than in any "democratic state" granting myself privileges and freedom, using the state corruption factor for my own good. Freedoms granted by someone, especially the strong state, is a total nonsense. A state which decides whether to take your kids from you for some lunatic reasons, a state which thinks it can indoctrinate your kids with universal state education, a state which promotes degeneracy and presecutes those who oppose it or even make fun of it can't be libertarian. Those dark green ones on map are on the way of cultural marxism under strong state control, not libertarianism.

[Victor]

Ok, so I want to know about libertarian countries regarding:

-Abortion law
-Gay marriage
-Right to bear arms
-non-mandatory vaccinations (particularly those for Covid, not saying I won't get vaccinated, I just want freedom of choice)
-Free enterprises
-Free market
-Freedom of speech (even excluding "hate speech" laws)
etc.

A true libertarian considers a baby in a womb to be a person who already has basic human rights (same do I).

[LostSoul]

A true libertarian considers a baby in a womb to be a person who already has basic human rights (same do I).

Libertarians have varying opinion on this. Some Libertarians support "evictionism", like me, for example.

[noricum]

Why czechs? Eternal Hate Festival 2019: a turk who told he was a greece got so severly beaten up by security, just for attending, his blood and teeth were found all over the venue even 3 days after. I can tell many more personal experiences. Also was in aller Welt bewegt dich zu einem solchen Irrglauben?

Czechs got quite libertarian view towards sexuality, firearms and explsives, drugs, business etc. Points that are more important to me personally. Still they are ovaerall very much against immigration which again I can personally undeerstand, but is clearly the opposite of Libertarianism. As I wrote before, you can't get all libetarian points filled everywhere, but Czechia still ranks pretty high overall. Sorry about your turkish friend, but I wouldn't judge a an entire country by a single incident on a rock festival.

[PlattitüdenPaule]

Czechs got quite libertarian view towards sexuality, firearms and explsives, drugs, business etc. Points that are more important to me personally. Still they are ovaerall very much against immigration which again I can personally undeerstand, but is clearly the opposite of Libertarianism. As I wrote before, you can't get all libetarian points filled everywhere, but Czechia still ranks pretty high overall. Sorry about your turkish friend, but I wouldn't judge a an entire country by a single incident on a rock festival.

Haha, Ive never said he was my friend, nor that I felt sorry for him.

I get your point, but have never seen in all my visits to Tschechien and particulary Prague anything you mentioned. Quite the contrary in most cases.

[XenophobicPrussian]

It's debatable whether anti-immigration is anti-libertarian or not. On one hand, immigration is freedom. On the other, politics(atleast until recently anyway) are political boundary/nation state specific and are(or rather, should be) only relevant to the nation in question, libertarians are not anarchists that don't want any government.

[noricum]

I get your point, but have never seen in all my visits to Tschechien and particulary Prague anything you mentioned. Quite the contrary in most cases.

Czechia is one of the least religious countries on earth. They have very pro-gun laws and even planned to add something line the US 2nd ammendment to therir constitution. You can get fireworks there that are illegal in Austria or Germany. Prostitution is everywhere. I was onces approached by 5 prostitutes at and close to Wenceslas Square within an hour. (Passiert mir normalerweise so nicht) Drugs are very easy to come by. Much of these point is defacto illeagal but noone seems to inforce the law, which makes Czechia a very Libertarian state to me.

[Jehan]

In which country you pay the less tax. Imagine i win at the lottery where would you advice me to live?

[Laly]

Libertarians have varying opinion on this. Some Libertarians support "evictionism", like me, for example.

“Evictionism”… aka perilous mental gymnastics libertarians have invented in order to justify something degenerate while remaining within the framework of their doctrine, lol.

[Hithaeglir]

If you can't freely own a firearm then the country isn't libertarian.

Why do you need to own a firearm? Unless you are in the police force, some parts of the army, you don't really need a firearm:P I always see that mentioned by some members and i don't understand it. Do you live in a third world place where you feel you can't step out of your house without protection?

[PaleoEuropean]

Why do you need to own a firearm? Unless you are in the police force, some parts of the army, you don't really need a firearm:P I always see that mentioned by some members and i don't understand it. Do you live in a third world place where you feel you can't step out of your house without protection?

God made man, Colt made them equal

[Hithaeglir]

God man man, Colt made them equal

Owning a colt is definitely not a measure of equality :)

[Tooting Carmen]

France is very far from being libertarian.

It's a state-focused economy and society.

Do you like that or not? Certainly, many French people (whether left-leaning or right-leaning) who I have met are proud of their etatisme.

[Tooting Carmen]

Czechia is one of the least religious countries on earth. They have very pro-gun laws and even planned to add something line the US 2nd ammendment to therir constitution. You can get fireworks there that are illegal in Austria or Germany. Prostitution is everywhere. I was onces approached by 5 prostitutes at and close to Wenceslas Square within an hour. (Passiert mir normalerweise so nicht) Drugs are very easy to come by. Much of these point is defacto illeagal but noone seems to inforce the law, which makes Czechia a very Libertarian state to me.

Plus also Prague is one of the world's biggest sex tourism destinations (for both gay and straight people) and likewise for pornography.

[Victor]

Why do you need to own a firearm? Unless you are in the police force, some parts of the army, you don't really need a firearm:P I always see that mentioned by some members and i don't understand it. Do you live in a third world place where you feel you can't step out of your house without protection?

It's sounds strange from a British person. In fact, it's safer in some 3rd world states than in EU states. It's quite lame to enjoy being dependant of government and poilce which will arrive after you're already shot or stabbed by the burglar whom you could shot on place after house invasion.

[Laly]

Plus also Prague is one of the world's biggest sex tourism destinations (for both gay and straight people) and likewise for pornography.

The pinacle of the "libertarian society", lol.

[noricum]

Why do you need to own a firearm? Unless you are in the police force, some parts of the army, you don't really need a firearm:P I always see that mentioned by some members and i don't understand it. Do you live in a third world place where you feel you can't step out of your house without protection?

Let me try to answer this question two ways.

From an US american perspective it is their constitutional right. A right should be exercised - use it or loose it. As it feels weired to question the first amendment (free speech), questioning the second amendment is just as bad. With the US beingfounded around the constitution, and the ideas therein, and not a peope or common origin, thieir constitution is naturally more important for them than lets say the citizens of most European countries.

From my personal perspective I need guns for my personal happyness. I very much enjoy their history, technological development and just simply shooting firearms. Not because I feel threaded. Some others my like Sports cars or motorbikes -nobody "needs" them either ande more people get killed by these every year.

[Tooting Carmen]

The pinacle of the "libertarian society", lol.

From the perspective of the gay porn industry, Czechia is ideal because the men are (1) White, often well-built and with blonde hair and blue eyes and (2) Are still a lot cheaper to hire than men in Western Europe and North America.

[Victor]

Plus also Prague is one of the world's biggest sex tourism destinations (for both gay and straight people) and likewise for pornography.

It is sad that people reduced personal freedom down to gluttony, fornication and perversion while they're happily transferring their real freedom and responsibility to the pagan gods of state and government who control them badly holding their balls tightly. Immature hedonists deserve slavery and extinction. In fact, they do not mind.

[Hithaeglir]

Let me try to answer this question two ways.

From an US american perspective it is their constitutional right. A right should be exercised - use it or loose it. As it feels weired to question the first amendment (free speech), questioning the second amendment is just as bad. With the US beingfounded around the constitution, and the ideas therein, and not a peope or common origin, thieir constitution is naturally more important for them than lets say the citizens of most European countries.

From my personal perspective I need guns for my personal happyness. I very much enjoy their history, technological development and just simply shooting firearms. Not because I feel threaded. Some others my like Sports cars or motorbikes -nobody "needs" them either ande more people get killed by these every year.

Thanks, that makes more sense.

[Tooting Carmen]

Let me try to answer this question two ways.

From an US American perspective it is their constitutional right. A right should be exercised - use it or loose it. As it feels weired to question the first amendment (free speech), questioning the second amendment is just as bad. With the US being founded around the constitution, and the ideas therein, and not a people or common origin

Not that I wish to digress too much but the part in bold isn't entirely true. Although people like Smeagol undoubtedly exaggerate this, it is true the Founding Fathers saw the US as essentially a WASP nation and, insofar as others could be allowed into the country and become part of the American nation at all, they had to adopt their culture, language and values.

[noricum]

Not that I wish to digress too much but the part in bold isn't entirely true. Although people like Smeagol undoubtedly exaggerate this, it is true the Founding Fathers saw the US as essentially a WASP nation and, insofar as others could be allowed into the country and become part of the American nation at all, they had to adopt their culture, language and values.

I think you point is valid, but i don't entirely agree. With Charles Carroll of Carrollton we have one Catholic founding father, the rest where Wasps. Maryland was founded as a Catholic Colony. German Americans kept a lot of their culture, language (f.e. newspapers) until WW1 when it eventually became unpopular to speak German. Another group that comes to my mind are Cajuns. But yes, WASP culture clearly lead the way.

[noricum]

Not that I wish to digress too much but the part in bold isn't entirely true. Although people like Smeagol undoubtedly exaggerate this, it is true the Founding Fathers saw the US as essentially a WASP nation and, insofar as others could be allowed into the country and become part of the American nation at all, they had to adopt their culture, language and values.

I think you point is valid, but i don't entirely agree. With Charles Carroll of Carrollton we have one Catholic founding father, the rest where Wasps. Maryland was founded as a Catholic Colony. German Americans kept a lot of their culture, language (f.e. newspapers) until WW1 when it eventually became unpopular to speak German. Another group that comes to my mind are Cajuns. But yes, WASP culture clearly lead the way.

[Samnium]

Do you like that or not? Certainly, many French people (whether left-leaning or right-leaning) who I have met are proud of their etatisme.

I'm not that much etatist, atleast I want to somewhat reduce State influence that is nefarious in France.

[Tooting Carmen]

I'm not that much etatist, at least I want to somewhat reduce State influence that is nefarious in France.

Is it more State intervention in the economy you object to (where France definitely is one of the leaders in the West)? Or State intervention in social and moral issues (where France is middling by Western standards and certainly less puritanical than the UK and the US)?

[PaleoEuropean]

Owning a colt is definitely not a measure of equality :)

But it's a good guarantee of freedom and protection. I wouldn't rely on anyone for my own protection, that is what the Globalists guilt people into thinking. Every man and woman has the right to defend their life and liberty. A standing military is frankly a waste of money and can be used to suppress freedom (foot soldiers aren't great free thinkers, especially in a professional army). And the police are largely incompetent or over stretched, they generally only take action after something goes wrong unless it makes them look good and get government funding. The legal system is broken and is a revolving door for criminals in most places except conservative places.

In a perfect world the police and military would be all we needed, but this is far from a perfect world. There is a lot of sick and evil people out there looking to victimize and succeeding because people cannot or are unwilling to take the measures to defend themselves. I personally think every women of sound mind especially should have to carry and own a firearm since they more vulnerable and often care for the children more often than not.

[noricum]

... A standing military is frankly a waste of money..

Didn't turn out all that well in the war of 1812 for you.

[XenophobicPrussian]

Czechia is one of the least religious countries on earth. They have very pro-gun laws and even planned to add something line the US 2nd ammendment to therir constitution. You can get fireworks there that are illegal in Austria or Germany. Prostitution is everywhere. I was onces approached by 5 prostitutes at and close to Wenceslas Square within an hour. (Passiert mir normalerweise so nicht) Drugs are very easy to come by. Much of these point is defacto illeagal but noone seems to inforce the law, which makes Czechia a very Libertarian state to me.
Do these seem to be ethnic Czechs? For example, Dutch prostitutes are rarely actually Dutch.

[LostSoul]

Do these seem to be ethnic Czechs? For example, Dutch prostitutes are rarely actually Dutch.

There are Gypsies starring in that stuff, too.

[Faklon]

Libertarian sounds like liberal is getting closer to liberetard.

Are you an anarchist so to say?

Do you fight for the decentralization of banks via cryptocurrencies?

What's your active role and your beliefs as a Libertarian?

[LostSoul]

Libertarian sounds like liberal is getting closer to liberetard.

Are you an anarchist so to say?

Do you fight for the decentralization of banks via cryptocurrencies?

What's your active role and your beliefs as a Libertarian?

You know, no person is free of hypocrisy. I formed this thread, because I wanted to know some people that share my views, I did not want to impose my views on anybody.
Besides, my country (Poland) feels like a statist hell, sometimes.
For a while I didn't do anything, but I will work on it. I always was convinced that a musician should not dabble in politics.
I would vote for Konfederacja, if it wasn't for their illiberal views on LGBT rights and abortion, TBH.

[Tooting Carmen]

You know, no person is free of hypocrisy. I formed this thread, because I wanted to know some people that share my views, I did not want to impose my views on anybody.
Besides, my country (Poland) feels like a statist hell, sometimes.
For a while I didn't do anything, but I will work on it.
I would vote for Konfederacja, if it wasn't for their illiberal views on LGBT rights and abortion, TBH.

So what is your opinion on the Law and Justice Party then?

[LostSoul]

So what is your opinion on the Law and Justice Party then?

Pretty bad. Socially right-wing, fiscally left-wing.
I'm trying to find some advantages of this party, as I hated Civic Platform, but it seems they are not better.
Taxes, taxes and taxes, restricted freedom etc.
There is so much to talk about this party.
I'm still trying to be a patriot, though.

[PaleoEuropean]

Didn't turn out all that well in the war of 1812 for you.

There is no British rule here so it wasn't that bad.

[Redmar]

New-Zealand is probably Libertarian paradise or a state in the US like South-Dakota or New Hampshire. You could also put forward some Caribbean British crown dependencies like the BVI, Bermuda etc

[XenophobicPrussian]

New-Zealand is probably Libertarian paradise or a state in the US like South-Dakota or New Hampshire. You could also put forward some Caribbean British crown dependencies like the BVI, Bermuda etc
New Zealand had a very non-libertarian response to Covid(although I agree with their response), but yeah they're probably up there. I'm not sure how archaic their hate speech laws are, but they're not like a UK in terms of guns.

[Redmar]

New Zealand had a very non-libertarian response to Covid(although I agree with their response), but yeah they're probably up there. I'm not sure how archaic their hate speech laws are, but they're not like a UK in terms of guns.

Not sure either about their hate speech laws but I know for a fact that their current social-democratic government has tried to implement a capital gains tax, a plan that miserably failed. Anyways, New-Zealand is quite Anglo compared to Australia, less wog types walking around there.

[Dick]

Where?

Canada but I don't trust government whether it's left or right. Anarcho-capitalism, a more extreme version of libertarianism, is better in my opinion.

[noricum]

...but they're not like a UK in terms of guns.

Social Democrat Jacinda Ardern pushed through a so called "assault weapons ban" within a few weeks after the Christchurch attacks. Now they are not so far off UK gun laws anymore.

[Faklon]

You know, no person is free of hypocrisy. I formed this thread, because I wanted to know some people that share my views, I did not want to impose my views on anybody.
Besides, my country (Poland) feels like a statist hell, sometimes.
For a while I didn't do anything, but I will work on it. I always was convinced that a musician should not dabble in politics.
I would vote for Konfederacja, if it wasn't for their illiberal views on LGBT rights and abortion, TBH.

Seems like a mild-liberal at most.

I want to understand what makes a libertarian, to me it sounds like a more pathetic word for anarchist that it is being abused by multiple fronts.

[Hithaeglir]

But it's a good guarantee of freedom and protection. I wouldn't rely on anyone for my own protection, that is what the Globalists guilt people into thinking. Every man and woman has the right to defend their life and liberty. A standing military is frankly a waste of money and can be used to suppress freedom (foot soldiers aren't great free thinkers, especially in a professional army). And the police are largely incompetent or over stretched, they generally only take action after something goes wrong unless it makes them look good and get government funding. The legal system is broken and is a revolving door for criminals in most places except conservative places.

In a perfect world the police and military would be all we needed, but this is far from a perfect world. There is a lot of sick and evil people out there looking to victimize and succeeding because people cannot or are unwilling to take the measures to defend themselves. I personally think every women of sound mind especially should have to carry and own a firearm since they more vulnerable and often care for the children more often than not.

Sure we don't live in a perfect world but i still don't understand why your defense should be a firearm. Also there's a very wide range of scenarios were you would want naturally to defend yourself, but if you hold a firearm most likely the person will die if you use it. Is every situation out there worth of somebody dying?

Your defense alternatively could be knowing a martial art, a knife, a gun that emits light and blinds the intruder (I can't recall their name).

I'd rather have a good police force than allowing random people owning loaded guns in their homes, hoping to use them for their 'defense' and taking law into their own hands.

[Faklon]

Misuse of guns is totally correlated with morally corrupted individualism.

[LittleDarkAge]

https://i.redd.it/mr6w9up499p01.png

It is certainly no coincidence that the most libertarian countries are the ones with the highest density of Whites.

[JamesBond007]

Seems like a mild-liberal at most.

I want to understand what makes a libertarian, to me it sounds like a more pathetic word for anarchist that it is being abused by multiple fronts.

Libertarianism is the belief that the government should keep its nose out of our business and its hand out of our pocket. It is classical liberalism rather than modern liberalism. Arthur Schopenhauer today would be a libertarian :

Schopenhauer viewed the role of the state from a classical liberal perspective. He writes, in The World as Will and Representation:


The State is nothing more than an institution of protection, rendered necessary by the manifold attacks to which man is exposed, and which he is not able to ward off as an individual, but only in alliance with others. [This] protection [includes] the safeguarding of private right. But, as is usual in things human, the removal of one evil generally opens the way to a fresh one, [which requires] protection against the protection… This seems most completely attainable by dividing and separating from one another the threefold unity of protective power, the legislative, the judicative, and the executive, so that each is managed by others, and independently of the rest.

The USA was libertarian from its founding until 1930 and that is what made it a good place to live now America just sucks. Conflating libertarianism with anarchism is incorrect.

[JamesBond007]

It is certainly no coincidence that the most libertarian countries are the ones with the highest density of Whites.

Sean is an idiot for saying the USA is libertarian. The USA ranks number 15 instead of the top 5 freest countries in the world. The USA is a piece of shit country. Why is the USA a piece of shit country ? Many reasons including it considers itself a 'free country' ! LOL :


Rank Country
1 New Zealand
2 Switzerland
3 Ireland
4 Finland
5 Canada
6 Australia
7 Luxembourg
8 Denmark
9 Netherlands
10 Sweden
11 Norway
12 Estonia
13 Iceland
14 United Kingdom
15 United States
16 Taiwan
17 Germany
18 Austria
19 Lithuania
20 Japan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_World_Liberty_Index

[Tooting Carmen]

Libertarianism is the belief that the government should keep its nose out of our business and its hand out of our pocket. It is classical liberalism rather than modern liberalism. Arthur Schopenhauer today would be a libertarian :

Schopenhauer viewed the role of the state from a classical liberal perspective. He writes, in The World as Will and Representation:


The State is nothing more than an institution of protection, rendered necessary by the manifold attacks to which man is exposed, and which he is not able to ward off as an individual, but only in alliance with others. [This] protection [includes] the safeguarding of private right. But, as is usual in things human, the removal of one evil generally opens the way to a fresh one, [which requires] protection against the protection… This seems most completely attainable by dividing and separating from one another the threefold unity of protective power, the legislative, the judicative, and the executive, so that each is managed by others, and independently of the rest.

The USA was libertarian from its founding until 1930 and that is what made it a good place to live now America just sucks. Conflating libertarianism with anarchism is incorrect.

Unless you were Black, gay, a woman...