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LostSoul
01-23-2021, 07:28 PM
I don't know, if Slavs breathed the better air and if it wasn't cold (here in Poland, it gets way too hot, sometimes), they would have looked the same as Western Europeans, I guess.

LostSoul
01-23-2021, 07:30 PM
Sorry, wrong thread, it had to be on "Anthropology". LOL

LittleDarkAge
01-23-2021, 07:34 PM
Eastern European phenotypes: Baltid, Pre-Slavic, Gorid, Pontid, Neo Danubian, and East Nordid.

LostSoul
01-23-2021, 07:36 PM
Eastern European phenotypes: Baltid, Pre-Slavic, Gorid, Pontid, Neo Danubian, and East Nordid.

I don't know, I would probably blame bad air quality in those countries, the fact that they smoke a lot and all that stuff, which results in uneven gray skin color and freakishly pale appearance. The rare presence of sun is also a factor, I think.

LittleDarkAge
01-23-2021, 07:43 PM
I don't know, I would probably blame bad air quality in those countries, the fact that they smoke a lot and all that stuff, which results in uneven gray skin color and freakishly pale appearance. The rare presence of sun is also a factor, I think.

There are other differences besides skin color. Eye shape, skull shape, nose shape...

Komintasavalta
01-23-2021, 08:06 PM
If you base your idea of "eastern" phenotypes on something like humanphenotypes or the SNPA website, keep in mind that they were made by a German and a Norwegian.

These are morphs of teams in the 2021 junior hockey world championship (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?340593-Hockey-under-20-teams-from-world-championships/page2&p=7078477#post7078477). Can you tell which is Russian and which is German?

https://i.ibb.co/9NQRGgG/b.jpg

These are combined morphs of Slavic teams (Czech Republic, Russia, and Slovakia) and Germanic teams (Austria, Germany, Sweden, and Switzerland). Which is which?

https://i.ibb.co/pbRp0yF/a.jpg

Answer:

Russia is on the right, Slavic is on the left.

The photos of different teams were taken under different conditions, so differences in skin color and head shape are caused by factors like differences in lighting and camera distance.

sean
01-23-2021, 08:23 PM
What is exactly an "Eastern European" look?

From what I have seen, the typical slav has a potato, shallow facial structure, slack-jawed, recessed chin, small eye space, no cheekbones and large, bumpy round head.

https://i.imgur.com/oCU9gAj.jpg
https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1561475698303.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/y836Enu.jpg
https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1541961023731.jpg

LostSoul
01-23-2021, 08:25 PM
What on Wykop (Polish Reddit) users say, it's "polacka morda" or "polacki ryjec", your description is accurate, actually.
Receding hairline ('zakola' in Polish) is also their complaint.

LostSoul
01-23-2021, 08:31 PM
From what I have seen, the typical slav has a potato, shallow facial structure, slack-jawed, recessed chin, small eye space, no cheekbones and large, bumpy round head.



I don't care, how their faces look like, though. I think, they could change their hairstyles, like they don't have to wear fade cut or buzz cut all the time. Flow hairstyle, shag, long hair etc. could look nice on them.

Seya
01-23-2021, 08:33 PM
There is no universal east european look from north to south

Aldaris
01-23-2021, 08:35 PM
From what I have seen, the typical slav has a potato, shallow facial structure, slack-jawed, recessed chin, small eye space, no cheekbones and large, bumpy round head.

https://i.imgur.com/oCU9gAj.jpg
https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1561475698303.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/y836Enu.jpg
https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1541961023731.jpg

Post your picture, pal, so we are done with this once and for all.

Satem
01-23-2021, 08:44 PM
Post your picture, pal, so we are done with this once and for all.

I don't understand what for such tone to him. This time he didn't do nothing wrong. He is very accurate with this phenotypes at least for Poland and even includes recent migrants

reboun
01-23-2021, 08:51 PM
I don't know, if Slavs breathed the better air and if it wasn't cold (here in Poland, it gets way too hot, sometimes), they would have looked the same as Western Europeans, I guess.

I think nutrition and climate have an influence on phenotype but they are not only factors. Ancestry affects too.

Aldaris
01-23-2021, 08:51 PM
I don't understand what for such tone to him. This time he didn't do nothing wrong. He is very accurate with this phenotypes at least for Poland and even includes recent migrants

You're quite naive, man. If you think that his post was a little more than an insulut attempt, you should get some 'people smarts' first.

LostSoul
01-23-2021, 08:57 PM
You're quite naive, man. If you think that his post was a little more than an insulut attempt, you should get 'people smarts' first.

TBH, I also hate such generalizations. Ok, when it comes to me, I kinda look Slavic, some people remarked, because of my youthful look, round face and almost no cheekbones, but I have an aquiline nose and dark hair. And I think, not every Polish person looks like that caricature that people have on mind. Educated people, certainly don't look like that. That's an awful stereotype that every Polish person looks like a pathology (patologia in Polish).

LostSoul
01-23-2021, 09:01 PM
On the lighter note (because I also have some sense of humor), I found this.
https://imgur.com/a/eHDP2b3

Viridian1
01-23-2021, 09:08 PM
From what I have seen, the typical slav has a potato, shallow facial structure, slack-jawed, recessed chin, small eye space, no cheekbones and large, bumpy round head.

https://i.imgur.com/oCU9gAj.jpg
https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1561475698303.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/y836Enu.jpg
https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1541961023731.jpg

Those are sebiksy (from name Sebastian which is stereotypically given to a thug guys here, polish version or russian gopnik :P )

Aldaris
01-23-2021, 09:14 PM
TBH, I also hate such generalizations. Ok, when it comes to me, I kinda look Slavic, some people remarked, because of my youthful look, round face and almost no cheekbones, but I have an aquiline nose and dark hair. And I think, not every Polish person looks like that caricature that people have on mind. Educated people, certainly don't look like that. That's an awful stereotype that every Polish person looks like a pathology (patologia in Polish).

You have to understand one thing, hun. The guy I've replied to is no neutral observer, but a notorious troll. Now, that post of his was not meant to be some empirical, objective stuff, it was meant to annoy you and other Slavs reading the thread. Anyhow, thanks for the clarification, but I'm not here to discuss physical anthropology.

Seya
01-23-2021, 09:19 PM
2 east europeans :laugh:
https://bnn-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/bnsnnsnss-1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/w4h3NnQ.png

LostSoul
01-23-2021, 09:34 PM
You have to understand one thing, hun. The guy I've replied to is no neutral observer, but a notorious troll. Now, that post of his was not meant to be some empirical, objective stuff, it was meant to annoy you and other Slavs reading the thread. Anyhow, thanks for the clarification, but I'm not here to discuss physical anthropology.

No, I wasn't that annoyed by him. That's just one of the views and I appreciate everybody has different views.

Aldaris
01-23-2021, 09:47 PM
No, I wasn't that annoyed by him. That's just one of the views and I appreciate everybody has different views.

I didn't say you were and that wasn't anywhere near the point anyways. You still don't get it, hun. Don't appreciate everybody who has whatever shit to say. You evaluate first. And then you look at the context. I would bet my heart for a dollar and I would be confident to win in there. Learn to read between the lines.

LostSoul
01-23-2021, 10:18 PM
I didn't say you were and that wasn't anywhere near the point anyways. You still don't get it, hun. Don't appreciate everybody who has whatever shit to say. You evaluate first. And then you look at the context. I would bet my heart for a dollar and I would be confident to win in there. Learn to read between the lines.

I know about that user from what he writes.

Wehrmacht
01-23-2021, 10:23 PM
From what I have seen, the typical slav has a potato, shallow facial structure, slack-jawed, recessed chin, small eye space, no cheekbones and large, bumpy round head.

https://i.imgur.com/oCU9gAj.jpg
https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1561475698303.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/y836Enu.jpg
https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1541961023731.jpg




Holy crap, it's a gang of weird looking Baltid orcs, lol

1/10
beyond the ugliness

Aldaris
01-23-2021, 11:02 PM
I know about that user from what he writes.

You apparently don't. ;-)

And look above, they never left anyway. Those insects are to be squashed.

The Blade
01-23-2021, 11:14 PM
Look influenced by types rare in Western Europe (Baltid, Pontid/North Pontid, Neo-Danubian, etc.).

Benyzero
01-24-2021, 12:15 AM
There are other differences besides skin color. Eye shape, skull shape, nose shape...

dick shape

PaleoEuropean
01-24-2021, 12:38 AM
I would say Pontid and Dinarid

Dick
01-24-2021, 01:45 AM
2 east europeans :laugh:
https://bnn-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/bnsnnsnss-1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/w4h3NnQ.png

Seya wins the internet once again.

Cleitus
01-24-2021, 02:11 AM
dick shapeand girth

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NSXD60
01-24-2021, 03:14 AM
Putin, who apparently recreated a dna folk-memory of riding bare-chested on a horse.

Mortimer
01-24-2021, 04:12 AM
I agree with you that they could pass unnoticed in western europe, the difference is very minor, most people dont know what gorid or baltid is or east nordid. And it is very similar to other north europeans. I watched some videos "which country do you hate the most" and in one they asked ukranians. They could be swedes, danes, norwegians, germans, too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHBO3qert8o

princeton90
01-24-2021, 07:35 AM
I would say Pontid and Dinarid

They are more like Southern and Western Balkan, AFAIK.

Mortimer
01-24-2021, 09:04 AM
I agree with you that they could pass unnoticed in western europe, the difference is very minor, most people dont know what gorid or baltid is or east nordid. And it is very similar to other north europeans. I watched some videos "which country do you hate the most" and in one they asked ukranians. They could be swedes, danes, norwegians, germans, too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHBO3qert8o

The French guy who said he feels safer in kiew than Paris was the darkest and most southern or med shifted person in that video

Lemminkäinen
01-24-2021, 09:10 AM
Inbreeding effect :)

Mortimer
01-24-2021, 09:16 AM
Inbreeding effect :)

I think eastern european is such a big group that it is impossible while I read that Finnish are really a inbred group

Lemminkäinen
01-24-2021, 09:30 AM
I think eastern european is such a big group that it is impossible while I read that Finnish are really a inbred group

Oh, your sense of humour ended :)

Slavic speakers went through a genetic bottle neck about 3000 years ago. The Finns are mixed Uralic and Scandinavian people, obviously being more mixed than Slavs. The Finnish yDna is 30% Iron Age Scandinavian I1, 60% Iron Age Uralic N1c and the rest R1a and R1b. The slavs are still same Bronze Age R1a+I2.

Polak
01-24-2021, 10:32 AM
I agree with you that they could pass unnoticed in western europe, the difference is very minor, most people dont know what gorid or baltid is or east nordid. And it is very similar to other north europeans. I watched some videos "which country do you hate the most" and in one they asked ukranians. They could be swedes, danes, norwegians, germans, too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHBO3qert8o

I agree that most people won't be able to tell who's Eastern Euro and who's Western Euro. The examples posted before are cherry-picked to the max to make us all fit the stereotypes. When I posted myself for classification most users gave me some sort of Western/Northern phenotype (Alpinid, Brünn, etc) despite me being Polish. Phenotypes don't mean anything.

Viridian1
01-24-2021, 11:14 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaVqY1Sjayo&ab_channel=eMisjaTv

Polak
01-24-2021, 11:31 AM
Inbreeding effect :)

Aren't Finns one of the most genetically secluded groups in Europe?

Lemminkäinen
01-24-2021, 12:54 PM
Aren't Finns one of the most genetically secluded groups in Europe?

Maybe one of the most secluded, but far more mixed than Russian Uralics. The difference between Finns and Balts is not big and taking into account only West Finns the result would be upside-down. Here are global HBD scores. Average HBD length figures the overall admixture rate.

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ekLU8U9f9_c/WutK64KBNoI/AAAAAAAABQg/OSn1x1aHdtISClHk6Z5V0WFCYPcskI6fgCLcBGAs/s1600/hbd.gif

Ranger0075
01-24-2021, 01:23 PM
I don't care, how their faces look like, though. I think, they could change their hairstyles, like they don't have to wear fade cut or buzz cut all the time. Flow hairstyle, shag, long hair etc. could look nice on them.

I don't think so, hair is a feminine trait, all men look better w/shaved hair (except big eared ones)

Benyzero
01-24-2021, 01:39 PM
I don't think so, hair is a feminine trait, all men look better w/shaved hair (except big eared ones)

baldric

Tauromachos
01-24-2021, 01:45 PM
What is it?

When i was new in this forum i learned its something Mainland Greeks are supposed to have and which sets
them apart from Italians and their Island counterparts.

Linebacker
01-24-2021, 06:51 PM
Anyone with a short hairstyle and a Nike/Adidas/Puma tracksuit automatically starts looking Eastern European.

CordedWhelp
01-24-2021, 06:56 PM
They’re not genetically the same. Different looks here from NW-ers will be genetic. NE-ers are a genetically sound group because of that “Balto-Slavic drift” plus extra WHG, and slightly more complex Steppe ancestry. Slightly.

LostSoul
01-25-2021, 07:52 AM
I don't think so, hair is a feminine trait, all men look better w/shaved hair (except big eared ones)

I'm a rock music enthusiast, so I have a different mindset.

LostSoul
01-25-2021, 07:55 AM
Double post

LostSoul
01-25-2021, 07:56 AM
Anyone with a short hairstyle and a Nike/Adidas/Puma tracksuit automatically starts looking Eastern European.

Add to your list uneven skin color (grey or red), too.
Man, I'm pretty controversial one, to some people I looked Western Euro, to the other I looked Eastern Euro (probably because I was not exposed to sun, enough), some people gave me some "Atlantid", other gave me either "North Pontid" or "Gorid".
The closest phenotype of myself I think is Dinarid + Atlantid + Alpine, but that is my opinion.

Golden Lining
01-29-2021, 07:39 PM
It's more of a cumulation of specific traits very common in the East, and the specific traits being mostly absent in the West. Even their blond haired people have a different shade than you find in the West.

Lookswise the change North to South is more "gradual", but even East Germans look different from Poles, despite admixture. The Oder is now a real anthropological border.

Peterski
02-22-2021, 10:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaVqY1Sjayo&ab_channel=eMisjaTv


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh46M47NTVo

Peterski
02-22-2021, 11:15 AM
2 east europeans :laugh:
https://bnn-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/bnsnnsnss-1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/w4h3NnQ.png

The one at the bottom looks Lebanese (or other MENA):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGN2uWS2iKs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZcuhZa0rns