Classify Spain and Italy football players with fewer than ten caps as of Jan 2021

[Tooting Carmen]

Spain

Unai Simón
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/Unai_Sim%C3%B3n_Mendibil.jpg

Pau Torres
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/T0YK12/granada-spain-21st-mar-2019-pau-torres-esp-footballsoccer-under-21international-friendly-match-between-u21-spain-1-0-u21-romania-at-the-estadio-municipal-nuevo-los-carmenes-in-granada-spain-credit-mutsu-kawamoriafloalamy-live-news-T0YK12.jpg

Marc Cucurella
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2B1Y21N/football-spain-la-liga-santander-2019-2020-getafe-club-de-futbol-marc-cucurella-saseta-2B1Y21N.jpg

Eric Garcia
https://resources.premierleague.com/premierleague/photos/players/250x250/p432656.png

Sergio Reguilón
https://resources.premierleague.com/premierleague/photos/players/250x250/p199249.png

Héctor Bellerín
https://www.arsenal.com/sites/default/files/styles/player_featured_image_1045x658/public/images/Bellerin_1045x658_1.jpg?itok=95vIilIJ

Sergio Canales
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7f/Real_Sociedad_-_Red_Bull_Salzburgo_52_%2839408621605%29_%28croppe d%29_2.jpg

Fabián Ruiz
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/UEFA_EURO_qualifiers_Sweden_vs_Spain_20191015_Fabi an_Ruiz_6_%28cropped%29.jpg/800px-UEFA_EURO_qualifiers_Sweden_vs_Spain_20191015_Fabi an_Ruiz_6_%28cropped%29.jpg

Mikel Merino
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Miker_Merino_2018_%28cropped%29.jpg

Gerard Moreno
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/UEFA_EURO_qualifiers_Sweden_vs_Spain_20191015_138_ %28cropped%29.jpg/800px-UEFA_EURO_qualifiers_Sweden_vs_Spain_20191015_138_ %28cropped%29.jpg

Adama Traoré (Malian descent)
https://s.hs-data.com/bilder/spieler/gross/227381.jpg

Ferran Torres
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/Ferran_Torres_2019.png/1024px-Ferran_Torres_2019.png

Dani Olmo
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/293385-1537950178.jpg

Diego Llorente
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/Real_Sociedad_-_Red_Bull_Salzburgo_62_%2826433581918%29_%28croppe d%29.jpg

José Campaña
https://worldfootballindex.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Jose-Campana-01-21.jpg

Óscar Rodríguez
https://www.mundodeportivo.com/r/GODO/MD/p5/Futbol/Imagenes/2018/08/17/Recortada/20180817-636701128569663513_20180817143124862-kpcG--980x554@MundoDeportivo-Web.jpg

Ansu Fati (from Guinea-Bissau)
https://s.hs-data.com/bilder/spieler/gross/438534.jpg

Italy

Alex Meret
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Alex_Meret_%28cropped%29.jpg/800px-Alex_Meret_%28cropped%29.jpg

Alessio Cragno
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/12907-1595927456.jpg

Danilo D'Ambrosio
https://sportstar.thehindu.com/third-party/opta/article30461891.ece/ALTERNATES/LANDSCAPE_1200/danilodambrosio-cropped1daeyq7vr5iqa13xtxdcrqq1j3jpg

Davide Calabria
https://www.pianetamilan.it/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2020/10/davide_calabria_ac_milan-e1603085197666.jpeg

Alessandro Bastoni
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/315853-1511780680.jpg

Giovanni Di Lorenzo
https://1vs1-7f65.kxcdn.com/img/players/players/giovanni-di-lorenzo_84317_281-ub-800.png

Luca Pellegrini
https://images2.minutemediacdn.com/image/upload/c_fill,w_912,h_516,f_auto,q_auto,g_auto/shape/cover/sport/cagliari-v-spal-serie-a-5d19dc28a45dd223c7000001.jpg

Gian Marco Ferrari
https://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Gian+Marco+Ferrari+Italy+Portrait+Session+q6HZ7oE4 oWkl.jpg

Sandro Tonali
https://sempreinter.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/tonali-6-scaled-e1595585863697-1280x720.jpg

Manuel Locatelli
https://www.rossoneriblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/DbUzx7dWsAE-Y_u.jpg-large-e1534173363423.jpg

Roberto Soriano
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8c/20150616_-_Portugal_-_Italie_-_Gen%C3%A8ve_-_Roberto_Soriano.jpg

Matteo Pessina
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/Matteo_Pessina_%28cropped%29.jpg/800px-Matteo_Pessina_%28cropped%29.jpg

Kevin Lasagna (reminds me of Tim Vincent!)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Kevin_Lasagna_Udinese.JPG/800px-Kevin_Lasagna_Udinese.JPG

Domenico Berardi
https://sm.imgix.net/19/20/domenico-berardi.jpg

Riccardo Orsolini
https://s.hs-data.com/bilder/spieler/gross/306921.jpg

Stefano Okaka (Nigerian descent)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Okaka_Spezia.jpg/800px-Okaka_Spezia.jpg

Marco Silvestri
https://futhead.cursecdn.com/static/img/14/players/190745.png

Cristiano Biraghi
https://static.inter.it/img/417591-6704e1d89cc31a19b277b3527fad49e90f2c3bf743226b062e 3bab52fcfed1bb.jpg

Gianluca Mancini
https://ultimouomo.imgix.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/19101153/GettyImages-1150981003-1.jpg

Manuel Lazzari
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Manuel_Lazzari03.jpg/800px-Manuel_Lazzari03.jpg

Mattia Caldara
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/197470-1532076231.jpg

Gaetano Castrovilli
https://1vs1-7f65.kxcdn.com/img/players/players/gaetano-castrovilli_256335_276-ub-800.png

Bryan Cristante
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/CSKA-Roma18_%282%29.jpg

Roberto Gagliardini
https://sempreinter.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/gagliardini-scaled-e1591962266391.jpg

Mattia Zaccagni
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/MattiaZaccagni.jpg

Stefano Sensi
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Stefano_Sensi.jpg

Nicolò Zaniolo
https://asroma2-cloudinary.corebine.com/asroma2-production/image/upload/c_fit,dpr_3.0,f_webp,g_center,q_auto,w_730/v1/asroma2-prod/20180816_allenamento_Trigoria-6485

Moise Kean (Ivorian descent)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/Moise_Kean_-_2015_-_Juventus_FC_%28youth_team%29_%28cropped_2%29.jpg

Vincenzo Grifo
https://sempreinter.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/grifo-1-scaled-e1589980135673.jpg

Francesco Caputo
https://m.footballdatabase.eu/images/photos/players/a_44/44408.jpg

Pietro Pellegri
https://www.egypttoday.com/siteimages/Larg/39498.jpg

[TheMaestro]

Most of Italians pass very very well as Albanians, imo AL and ITA overlap with their looks alot.

[Tooting Carmen]

Most of Italians pass very very well as Albanians, imo AL and ITA overlap with their looks alot.

And the Spaniards?

[TheMaestro]

And the Spaniards?

Ye some of them pass, but it's not the just passing im talking about, ITA and AL really share some common looks they both share.

[Tooting Carmen]

Ye some of them pass, but it's not the just passing im talking about, ITA and AL really share some common looks they both share.

What phenotypes do Albanians and Italians frequently share in particular?

[Lozano]

Spain

Sergio Reguilón
https://resources.premierleague.com/premierleague/photos/players/250x250/p199249.png

Mikel Merino
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Miker_Merino_2018_%28cropped%29.jpg

Oscar Rodriguez

https://i.postimg.cc/J01Mr2zJ/scar-Rodr-guez-Presentaci-n.jpg (https://postimages.org/)



Look off-white as fuck, that Mikel Merino even looks arab or mestizo.

A big LoL to perikolez when he tells me my white criteria does not apply to spaniards :lol:

[Oliver109]

Mikel Merino is 6 ft 2, that is much taller than the Arab average and suggests an Atlanto Med component, he does not look that unspanish, Oscar Rodriguez has light brown eyes, a European, not an Arab trait tbh.

[Sebastianus Rex]

[/QUOTE=Lozano;7090962]Look off-white as fuck, that Mikel Merino even looks arab or mestizo.

A big LoL to perikolez when he tells me my white criteria does not apply to spaniards :lol:[/QUOTE]

Those guys make Luso or Gonçalo Guedes look North Atlantids. xD

Reguillon is just a dark berid...not too exotic imo but passes easily as latino
Merino is completely Araboid (surely orientalid)
And Oscar Rodriguez looks 200% gypsy...he look way more gypsy than Esgaio who I consider to look 100% gypsy...I have to review my criteria I guess. xD
Cucurella looks like a octoroon with those traits and hair.

Yet I have to say that ItalicRoots loses this battle, the Italian set has more ambiguous/ non-europid types.

[Sebastianus Rex]

Mikel Merino is 6 ft 2, that is much taller than the Arab average and suggests an Atlanto Med component, he does not look that unspanish, Oscar Rodriguez has light brown eyes, a European, not an Arab trait tbh.

And Osama Bin Laden was 6'5, what's your point?

[Latinus]

The fuck, is this fully Italian?
https://1vs1-7f65.kxcdn.com/img/players/players/giovanni-di-lorenzo_84317_281-ub-800.png

[Oliver109]

And Osama Bin Laden was 6'5, what's your point?

I was taking it on averages, Bin Laden was an extreme anomaly but in Spain you see quite a few darker taller people, are they all Arabs?

[Sebastianus Rex]

I was taking it on averages, Bin Laden was an extreme anomaly but in Spain you see quite a few darker taller people, are they all Arabs?

Height has nothing to do with it, nowadays all populations are much taller than decades ago and it's not because of it their phenotype classification changes. If I see an Arabid, Syrid or Orientalid face I will classify as such and couldn't care less if they are midget or have 2meters tall neither if they were born in Mecca, Pamplona or Tokyo.

[Oliver109]

Height has nothing to do with it, nowadays all populations are much taller than decades ago and it's not because of it their phenotype classification changes. If I see an Arabid, Syrid or Orientalid face I will classify as such and couldn't care less if they are midget or have 2meters tall neither if they were born in Mecca, Pamplona or Tokyo.

Well maybe but this site has a Orientalid presence in the south of Spain so i don't think you can say that all Orientalid phenotypes in Spain are non Spanish
http://humanphenotypes.net/basic/Orientalid.html

[hurtuv]

The fuck, is this fully Italian?
https://1vs1-7f65.kxcdn.com/img/players/players/giovanni-di-lorenzo_84317_281-ub-800.png

His hair is not that dark although it's curly, but that doesn't imply that he's not Italian. Skin may be just tanned, and his eye region actually looks a bit Northern shifted to me shape wise.

[Latinus]

His hair is not that dark although it's curly, but that doesn't imply that he's not Italian. Skin may be just tanned, and his eye region actually looks a bit Northern shifted to me shape wise.

If he was Latino he would be seen as some type of pardo easily, easily.

[Immanenz]

If he was Latino he would be seen as some type of pardo easily, easily.

just Dinaro Med, you guys are maybe not used to these types of faces.


Height has nothing to do with it, nowadays all populations are much taller than decades ago and it's not because of it their phenotype classification changes. If I see an Arabid, Syrid or Orientalid face I will classify as such and couldn't care less if they are midget or have 2meters tall neither if they were born in Mecca, Pamplona or Tokyo.

Exactly- people should get off Coons textbook bullshit- Alpines can be tall too ( a shit load of female Models) . i ve seen textbook Atlanto Meds who are below average height and Gracile Meds who are like 190 cm, but nobody would dare to classify them as such.

[Latinus]

just Dinaro Med, you guys are maybe not used to these types of faces.

Nope. Tons of people look like him among the Southern Euro looking stock of Latam, it's just that since most Latinos look mixed, it can be hard to distinguish these darker and coarser types from very Euro shifted pardos.

He looks like a favelado.

[Immanenz]

Nope. Tons of people look like among the Southern Euro looking stock of Latam, it's just that since most Latinos look mixed, it can be hard to distinguish these darker and coarser types from very Euro shifted pardos.

He looks like a favelado.

lol come on- i google favelado and this is the result- half Black mixes.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQzcq-c2_zsUi7DoN42orfydaM7k_GN3lrSpQ&usqp=CAU
https://i.imgur.com/zZ7QFt0.jpg

Not every south European looks the same- he is jsut Gracile Med+ Dinaric, i mean he could pass as West Asian, but that does not make him part Black either... obv. the hair makes you think otherwise, but its complete nonsense

https://editorial01.shutterstock.com/wm-preview-1500/10343811l/75477fd3/napoli-v-feralpi-salo-preseason-friendly-football-municipal-stadium-dimaro-italy-shutterstock-editorial-10343811l.jpg

[Sebastianus Rex]

just Dinaro Med, you guys are maybe not used to these types of faces.



Exactly- people should get off Coons textbook bullshit- Alpines can be tall too ( a shit load of female Models) . i ve seen textbook Atlanto Meds who are below average height and Gracile Meds who are like 190 cm, but nobody would dare to classify them as such.

Agree about the height stuff of course.

Funny how Di Lorenzo looks completely different in this pic, without the frizzie hair...still his natural extremely frizzy hair is not normal, Dinaro-Med + something else for sure (maybe coarse med or south med admix)
https://sempreinter.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/di-lorenzo-1024x682.jpg

[Cristiano viejo]

Those guys make Luso or Gonçalo Guedes look North Atlantids. xD

Reguillon is just a dark berid...not too exotic imo but passes easily as latino
Merino is completely Araboid (surely orientalid)
And Oscar Rodriguez looks 200% gypsy...he look way more gypsy than Esgaio who I consider to look 100% gypsy...I have to review my criteria I guess. xD
Cucurella looks like a octoroon with those traits and hair.

Yet I have to say that ItalicRoots loses this battle, the Italian set has more ambiguous/ non-europid types.
That is because (as usual) Tooting Carmen posts the worst and darker pictures of people (not just in this thread, but in any thread). All the pictures of the Spanish players are terrible :picard1:
Cucurella feautures are super Spanish
https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/megapacks/cutoutfaces/originals/12.07/67215284.png

Mikel Merino Araboid, trololol. He is just very dark
https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/megapacks/cutoutfaces/originals/12.07/67211760.png

Agreed with Óscar, he looks Gypsy... but he is not
https://okdiario.com/img/2018/02/03/oscar-familia.jpg

And agreed, Spaniards are and look whiter than espaguetis.

[Latinus]

lol come on- i google favelado and this is the result- half Black mixes.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQzcq-c2_zsUi7DoN42orfydaM7k_GN3lrSpQ&usqp=CAU
https://i.imgur.com/zZ7QFt0.jpg

Not every south European looks the same- he is jsut Gracile Med+ Dinaric, i mean he could pass as West Asian, but that does not make him part Black either... obv. the hair makes you think otherwise, but its complete nonsense

https://editorial01.shutterstock.com/wm-preview-1500/10343811l/75477fd3/napoli-v-feralpi-salo-preseason-friendly-football-municipal-stadium-dimaro-italy-shutterstock-editorial-10343811l.jpg

Dude, I live here and I know better than you. He looks favelado, poor, cara de pobre, and not all of them are heavily SSA, I have met in real life a share that doesn't show these traits.

[Latinus]

Agree about the height stuff of course.

Funny how Di Lorenzo looks completely different in this pic, without the frizzie hair...still his natural extremely frizzy hair is not normal, Dinaro-Med + something else for sure (maybe coarse med or south med admix)
https://sempreinter.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/di-lorenzo-1024x682.jpg

Yeah, here he doesn't look ambiguos anymore.

[Immanenz]

Yeah, here he doesn't look ambiguos anymore.

Well, you are proving my point. But i m not surprised that more gracile and in Litorid direction looking among them, i just thought you think he is mixed

[Immanenz]

Dp

[Latinus]

Well, you are proving my point. But i m not surprised that more gracile and in Litorid direction looking among them, i just thought you think he is mixed

He looked mixed in that pic, just that. But he is just another Italian.

[chociprasa]

just Dinaro Med, you guys are maybe not used to these types of faces.



Exactly- people should get off Coons textbook bullshit- Alpines can be tall too ( a shit load of female Models) . i ve seen textbook Atlanto Meds who are below average height and Gracile Meds who are like 190 cm, but nobody would dare to classify them as such.

Examples of tall Alpine female models?

[Tooting Carmen]

Alessio Cragno again
https://i.goalzz.com/?i=abd20015%2Falessio+cragno.gif

[XenophobicPrussian]

Mikel Merino is 6 ft 2, that is much taller than the Arab average and suggests an Atlanto Med component, he does not look that unspanish, Oscar Rodriguez has light brown eyes, a European, not an Arab trait tbh.
:picard1:

[Jon96]

Interesting range of phenotypes.

[XenophobicPrussian]

lol come on- i google favelado and this is the result- half Black mixes.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQzcq-c2_zsUi7DoN42orfydaM7k_GN3lrSpQ&usqp=CAU
https://i.imgur.com/zZ7QFt0.jpg

Not every south European looks the same- he is jsut Gracile Med+ Dinaric, i mean he could pass as West Asian, but that does not make him part Black either... obv. the hair makes you think otherwise, but its complete nonsense

https://editorial01.shutterstock.com/wm-preview-1500/10343811l/75477fd3/napoli-v-feralpi-salo-preseason-friendly-football-municipal-stadium-dimaro-italy-shutterstock-editorial-10343811l.jpg
Don't think he looks part black/Latam triracial, but he passes among mestizos and I think is much more MENA shifted than Dinaro-Med.

[Tooting Carmen]

Missing photos:

Davide Calabria
https://m.footballdatabase.eu/images/photos/players/2017-2018/a_215/215753.jpg

Mattia Zaccagni
https://primadituttoverona.it/media/2020/03/IMG-20200318-WA0002.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

Gian Marco Ferrari
https://img.a.transfermarkt.technology/portrait/big/277167-1535016623.jpg?lm=1

[Avgvstvs]

Same old story, we display more Alpine and Dinarid, they have more Atlanto-Med strain.

Also football teams are not always representative.

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[Tenma de Pegasus]

Why Spain have some players with names of italian origin? I thought Cucurella and Bellerin were italian names.

[Avgvstvs]

Why Spain have some players with names of italian origin? I thought Cucurella and Bellerin were italian names.Those names are not italian.

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