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mitalit
01-31-2021, 12:45 AM
From a friend of mine.
Ask any question :thumb001:
Haplo R1B-M153

k13
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Using 1 population approximation:
1 Spanish_Aragon @ 4.387687
2 Spanish_Cantabria @ 5.815434
3 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 6.614606

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% French_Basque +50% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.184238

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% French_Basque +25% North_Italian +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.674721

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 French_Basque + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Cantabria + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.497818

k15
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Using 1 population approximation:
1 Spanish_Aragon @ 4.387687
2 Spanish_Cantabria @ 5.815434
3 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 6.614606

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% French_Basque +50% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.184238

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% French_Basque +25% North_Italian +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.674721

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 French_Basque + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Cantabria + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.497818


K36
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calxpal
01-31-2021, 01:54 AM
Where in Spain is his known ancestry from?

Luso
01-31-2021, 05:42 AM
Is he from Catalonia? Or Basque?

R-M153 is a Basque marker.

Randommembr
01-31-2021, 05:47 AM
I have haplos R and M as well. My ethnicity is in my profile.

mitalit
01-31-2021, 12:02 PM
The results are already updated to gedmatch!


Where in Spain is his known ancestry from?
Half Burgos (Castile and Leon) and half Basque



Is he from Catalonia? Or Basque?

R-M153 is a Basque marker.

His paternal line comes from burgos (near where the cid was born)

Leto
01-31-2021, 12:08 PM
Massive West Med percentage.
Can you show me the Dodecad K12b components?

Ajeje Brazorf
01-31-2021, 12:53 PM
How many SNPs on Eurogenes K15?

mitalit
01-31-2021, 12:57 PM
Massive West Med percentage.
Can you show me the Dodecad K12b components?
Yes, ofc
https://i.gyazo.com/57ebd06e645644acaceb9328e779e15b.png
1 Cantabria_1000Genomes @ 3.296725

1 50% Aragon_1000Genomes +50% Cataluna_1000Genomes @ 3.071999

1 50% Cataluna_1000Genomes +25% Galicia_1000Genomes +25% Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes @ 2.791485

1 Cataluna_1000Genomes + Galicia_1000Genomes + Galicia_1000Genomes + Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes @ 2.471687

mitalit
01-31-2021, 12:57 PM
How many SNPs on Eurogenes K15?

SNPs used in this evaluation: 78635.

Leto
01-31-2021, 01:02 PM
Yes, ofc
https://i.gyazo.com/57ebd06e645644acaceb9328e779e15b.png
1 Cantabria_1000Genomes @ 3.296725

1 50% Aragon_1000Genomes +50% Cataluna_1000Genomes @ 3.071999

1 50% Cataluna_1000Genomes +25% Galicia_1000Genomes +25% Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes @ 2.791485

1 Cataluna_1000Genomes + Galicia_1000Genomes + Galicia_1000Genomes + Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes @ 2.471687
Thanks. Could the South Asian be distant Gitano/Gypsy? It's consistently well over 2%.

Ajeje Brazorf
01-31-2021, 01:12 PM
SNPs used in this evaluation: 78635.

Damn V5 chip...

This is a Eurogenes K15 PCA with him:

https://i.ibb.co/C0PdL8d/PCA.png

mitalit
01-31-2021, 01:13 PM
Thanks. Could the South Asian be distant Gitano/Gypsy? It's consistently well over 2%.
I honestly thought he would bring out a little gypsy but not that he knows about. Anyway I get a lot more South Asian that he, why does that stand out for you?

https://i.gyazo.com/c4757ce12f9c4fbcb916b393900f65e4.png

mitalit
01-31-2021, 01:15 PM
Damn V5 chip...

This is a Eurogenes K15 PCA with him:

https://i.ibb.co/C0PdL8d/PCA.png

Thank you very much!

Leto
01-31-2021, 01:17 PM
I honestly thought he would bring out a little gypsy but not that he knows about. Anyway I get a lot more South Asian that he, why does that stand out for you?

https://i.gyazo.com/c4757ce12f9c4fbcb916b393900f65e4.png
You score literally zero. He may or may not have it, I'm not saying he should definitely be part Gypsy. Even so, it's minor and diluted.

mitalit
01-31-2021, 01:22 PM
You score literally zero. He may or may not have it, I'm not saying he should definitely be part Gypsy. Even so, it's minor and diluted.
Okay, it's true. I mistook it for southwest asian.
He may have a gypsy ancestor (in a very small proportion as you say), but nothing about what he knows.

Leto
01-31-2021, 01:29 PM
Okay, it's true. I mistook it for southwest asian.
He may have a gypsy ancestor (in a very small proportion as you say), but nothing about what he knows.
What strikes me is that he is like 10% more Atlantic Med than you. Your score is actually low-ish for Spain. I updated the Dodecad with data obtained from Ibericus because most of the Dodecad spreadsheet is horribly inaccurate.

Defcon2
01-31-2021, 04:20 PM
Thanks. Could the South Asian be distant Gitano/Gypsy? It's consistently well over 2%.

I also get similar amounts from South Asia, along with East Asia / Oceania additives, even at g25. And yes my version of the raw data file is 23andme v5.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 40.02
2 West_Med 30.16
3 East_Med 12.56
4 Baltic 7.8
5 Sub-Saharan 3.11
6 Red_Sea 2.29
7 South_Asian 2.03
8 East_Asian 1.31
9 Oceanian 0.73

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 31.42
2 West_Med 25.52
3 North_Sea 19.5
4 East_Med 9.71
5 Sub-Saharan 3.2
6 Eastern_Euro 2.58
7 Baltic 2.38
8 Red_Sea 2.28
9 South_Asian 1.94
10 Southeast_Asian 0.74
11 Oceanian 0.69

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 4.8119% / 0.04811909
55.4 TUR_Barcin_N
27.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.2 WHG
4.2 MAR_Taforalt
1.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
1.0 Yoruba
0.6 Han

Leto
01-31-2021, 04:27 PM
I also get similar amounts from South Asia, along with East Asia / Oceania additives, even at g25. And yes my version of the raw data file is 23andme v5.

Can you also show me your Dodecad K12b?

Defcon2
01-31-2021, 04:57 PM
Can you also show me your Dodecad K12b?

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Med 48.68
2 North_European 22.14
3 Caucasus 9.99
4 Northwest_African 5.38
5 Gedrosia 4.76
6 Southwest_Asian 4.14
7 South_Asian 2.11
8 Sub_Saharan 1.66
9 East_African 1
10 East_Asian 0.15

Leto
01-31-2021, 05:07 PM
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Med 48.68
2 North_European 22.14
3 Caucasus 9.99
4 Northwest_African 5.38
5 Gedrosia 4.76
6 Southwest_Asian 4.14
7 South_Asian 2.11
8 Sub_Saharan 1.66
9 East_African 1
10 East_Asian 0.15
You are quite Northern but again, the minor South Asian seems to be there

Distance to: Defcon2(Spanish)
2.94725296 Spanish_Asturias
4.50610697 Spanish_Andalusia
5.30519557 Spanish_Aragon
5.88759713 Spanish_Galicia
5.99337134 Spanish_La_Rioja
6.32082273 Spanish_Valencia
6.49540607 Spanish_Cantabria
6.55313665 Spanish_Castilla-Leon
7.28780488 Spanish_Catalonia
8.74949713 Portuguese

Target: Defcon2(Spanish)
Distance: 2.2226% / 2.22264862 | ADC: 0.5x RC
94.0 Spanish_Asturias
4.2 Sardinian
1.8 Bhunjia

I guess Bhunjia is some kind of Indian tribe.

Luso
01-31-2021, 05:39 PM
You are quite Northern but again, the minor South Asian seems to be there

Distance to: Defcon2(Spanish)
2.94725296 Spanish_Asturias
4.50610697 Spanish_Andalusia
5.30519557 Spanish_Aragon
5.88759713 Spanish_Galicia
5.99337134 Spanish_La_Rioja
6.32082273 Spanish_Valencia
6.49540607 Spanish_Cantabria
6.55313665 Spanish_Castilla-Leon
7.28780488 Spanish_Catalonia
8.74949713 Portuguese

Target: Defcon2(Spanish)
Distance: 2.2226% / 2.22264862 | ADC: 0.5x RC
94.0 Spanish_Asturias
4.2 Sardinian
1.8 Bhunjia

I guess Bhunjia is some kind of Indian tribe.


I get a lot of Southwest indian:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Med 41.41
2 North_European 26.91
3 Caucasus 14.17
4 Southwest_Asian 5.58
5 Northwest_African 5.21
6 Gedrosia 3.14
7 Sub_Saharan 1.39
8 East_African 1.37
9 Siberian 0.49
10 South_Asian 0.3

CommonSense
01-31-2021, 05:43 PM
Okay, it's true. I mistook it for southwest asian.
He may have a gypsy ancestor (in a very small proportion as you say), but nothing about what he knows.

Can you post the ethnicity estimate he got from the company he tested with?

Leto
01-31-2021, 05:48 PM
I get a lot of Southwest indian:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Med 41.41
2 North_European 26.91
3 Caucasus 14.17
4 Southwest_Asian 5.58
5 Northwest_African 5.21
6 Gedrosia 3.14
7 Sub_Saharan 1.39
8 East_African 1.37
9 Siberian 0.49
10 South_Asian 0.3
Southwest Asian is Ayrab i.e. 100% Caucasoid/West Eurasian. It's not Indian.

Leto
01-31-2021, 05:50 PM
Less than 1% South Asian is noise but 2+% may not be noise. It depends on other factors. In some parts of the world that type of thing wouldn't indicate Gypsy ancestry but in others that may very well be the case.

mitalit
01-31-2021, 06:07 PM
Can you post the ethnicity estimate he got from the company he tested with?

with myheritage 95,3 iberian, 4,7 italian

CommonSense
01-31-2021, 06:21 PM
with myheritage 95,3 iberian, 4,7 italian

Then he likely has no admix of that kind unless he has close matches with Gypsies.