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Sebastianus Rex
01-31-2021, 03:31 AM
https://img.nrj.fr/B1-uQ4Id21HoZ6d9fvDrouCFWSw=/0x177/smart/https%3A%2F%2Fimage-api.nrj.fr%2Fhttp%2Fmedia.nrj.fr%2Fraw%2F2020%2F02 %2Fjulien-clerc-ses-plus-belles-chansons-composees-pour-les-autre-1581946819.

https://resize-elle.ladmedia.fr/rcrop/1024,1024/img/var/plain_site/storage/images/people/la-vie-des-people/julien-clerc-helene-miou-miou-france-gall-et-virginie-les-femmes-de-sa-vie-3412364/76415072-1-fre-FR/Julien-Clerc-Helene-Miou-Miou-France-Gall-et-Virginie-les-femmes-de-sa-vie.jpg

https://www.chantefrance.com/musicstory/artists/1193090.jpg

https://static1.purepeople.com/articles/8/79/98/@/29857-julien-clerc-heureux-papa-624x600-1.jpg

Fully French name and 2 french parents:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julien_Clerc

Cristiano viejo
01-31-2021, 03:54 AM
Quite different than the Spanish Carlos Clerc
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/193784-1490623959.jpg

Experts of TA such as Oliverio, Samnium, dududud the Med boy or Nassbean the parasite would swear on the Koran the Spanish is the French and the French is the Spanish :laugh2:

Sebastianus Rex
01-31-2021, 04:11 AM
Quite different than the Spanish Carlos Clerc
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/193784-1490623959.jpg

Experts of TA such as Oliverio, Samnium, dududud the Med boy or Nassbean the parasite would swear on the Koran the Spanish is the French and the French is the Spanish :laugh2:

Like night and day.

Actually the birth name of Julien Clerc is LeClerc, as people can read on the link I posted. Just to dissipate doubts, his name is 100% french.

NSXD60
01-31-2021, 04:49 AM
Jewish, looks like drummer Buddy Rich.

Sebastianus Rex
01-31-2021, 01:40 PM
Bump bitches

Flashball
01-31-2021, 02:18 PM
"Fils de Paul Leclerc (mort en 2003), haut fonctionnaire à l'Unesco, et d'Évelyne Merlot, d'origine guadeloupéenne"

Son of Paul Leclerc (died 2003), senior official at Unesco, and Evelyne Merlot, of Guadeloupe origin

https://gw.geneanet.org/odyss1?lang=fr&n=clerc&oc=1&p=julien

Next.

Cristiano viejo
01-31-2021, 02:37 PM
"Fils de Paul Leclerc (mort en 2003), haut fonctionnaire à l'Unesco, et d'Évelyne Merlot, d'origine guadeloupéenne"

Son of Paul Leclerc (died 2003), senior official at Unesco, and Evelyne Merlot, of Guadeloupe origin

https://gw.geneanet.org/odyss1?lang=fr&n=clerc&oc=1&p=julien

Next.

Facially French and not exotic at all, according Oliverio the expert


Facially he is more French, not exotic to that country, on the other hand the young lady in this picture looks like she has come straight out of Extremadura
https://i0.wp.com/www.starmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/julien-clerc-sa-fille-vanille-vient-d%E2%80%99accoucher-de-son-premier-enfant.jpg?resize=1200%2C675&ssl=1


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?341663-Classify-French-rejoneadora-Lea-Vicens/page15

Hamilcar
01-31-2021, 03:20 PM
haha we now have iberians who try to darkwash french people :picard2:


Always a pleasure admiring people and their insecurities. Iberians are by far more darker than french people, deal with it.

Sakis
01-31-2021, 03:24 PM
That's enough we've got it, the French are darker than the Iberians.

Sebastianus Rex
01-31-2021, 04:15 PM
haha we now have iberians who try to darkwash french people :picard2:


Always a pleasure admiring people and their insecurities. Iberians are by far more darker than french people, deal with it.

Says the Moorish/Islamic supremacist who lives in Europe God knows how and spends is life in a European forum attacking and darkwashing iberians and white washing Moroccans...talking about complexes trololol look at your pathetic self!

We are just posting french people like there are millions of them, you are the ones who start crying if they are not light and start shouting they look Iberian and similar retarded shit.

Darkwash would be manipulating and posting people who are not French, wich is your obsession with Iberians.

Sebastianus Rex
01-31-2021, 04:20 PM
That's enough we've got it, the French are darker than the Iberians.

That's enough we've got it, the French can not be dark unless they have Iberian origins...says all the Mena boys and franco-terroni of this enlightening forum.

Cristiano viejo
01-31-2021, 04:20 PM
haha we now have iberians who try to darkwash french people :picard2:


Always a pleasure admiring people and their insecurities. Iberians are by far more darker than french people, deal with it.

We dont need to darkwash something is already dark even if super hilarious coming from you about insecurities, darkwashing etc

Sakis
01-31-2021, 04:29 PM
That's enough we've got it, the French can not be dark unless they have Iberian origins...says all the Mena boys and franco-terroni of this enlightening forum.

Posting an atypical French if he is at all isn't going to prove anything and it reeks of insecurity.

Hamilcar
01-31-2021, 04:36 PM
Says the Moorish/Islamic supremacist who lives in Europe God knows how and spends is life in a European forum attacking and darkwashing iberians and white washing Moroccans...talking about complexes trololol look at your pathetic self!

We are just posting french people like there are millions of them, you are the ones who start crying if they are not light and start shouting they look Iberian and similar retarded shit.

Darkwash would be manipulating and posting people who are not French, wich is your obsession with Iberians.

Personal attacks won't help you, Iberian members constantly posting dark french is pure cringe and he isn't even fully french : his mother is from guadeloupe and his maternal grand-father was a mulatto. That's also what he said : Julien Clerc declares to be from Guadeloupe and to feel deeply Caribbean, that his music is necessarily inspired by it and that his grandfather was of the same skin color as Yannick Noah. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julien_Clerc


So who's pathetic now ?

MisterGaga
01-31-2021, 04:47 PM
He has a very interesting phenotype. His face has still something very French but with a New World flavor. It's interesting he's like the French version of some Cubans or Dominicans. Just in the comparison because French Caribbeans are made up of majority of griffes.

Sebastianus Rex
01-31-2021, 04:50 PM
Posting an atypical French if he is at all isn't going to prove anything and it reeks of insecurity.

Come bitching about Iberians posting french people and trying to prevent them to do so reeks insecurity. French people are also dark, why can't you accept the truth ? Why does it bother you ?

Ouistreham
01-31-2021, 04:55 PM
We are just posting french people like there are millions of them...

Julien Clerc is 1/4 Black — which makes him look like an average «white» Brazilian (and many Portuguese too).
Easy to check.

On the other hand Spanish filmmaker Pedro Almodovar is 100% Iberian:
https://nextews.com/images/cb/3c/cb3cd0c07ebb0ed5.jpg

Cristiano viejo
01-31-2021, 04:59 PM
Julien Clerc is 1/4 Black — which makes him look like an average «white» Brazilian (and many Portuguese too).
Easy to check.

On the other hand Spanish filmmaker Pedro Almodovar is 100% Iberian:


And? whats up with him?
https://www.alohacriticon.com/wp-content/uploads/2004/03/pedro-almodovar-premio-oscar.jpg

100 times lighter and Europeaan looking than for example Northern French Jerome le Banner or Souther Frennch Sebastien Chabal
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9d/6f/7a/9d6f7a507c4bcba87402b07509848132.jpg

Sebastianus Rex
01-31-2021, 04:59 PM
Personal attacks won't help you, Iberian members constantly posting dark french is pure cringe and he isn't even fully french : his mother is from guadeloupe and his maternal grand-father was a mulatto. That's also what he said : Julien Clerc declares to be from Guadeloupe and to feel deeply Caribbean, that his music is necessarily inspired by it and that his grandfather was of the same skin color as Yannick Noah. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julien_Clerc


So who's pathetic now ?

Pointless, France is a melting pot for ages, millions and millions of french are mixed and in the near future all french will be like that or even darker, thanks to afro-maghrebians like you.:thumb001:

Cristiano viejo
01-31-2021, 05:16 PM
in the near future all french will be like that or even darker, thanks to afro-maghrebians like you.:thumb001:

hahaha ;)

Sebastianus Rex
01-31-2021, 05:30 PM
Julien Clerc is 1/4 Black — which makes him look like an average «white» Brazilian (and many Portuguese too).
Easy to check.


Nice joke but the sad true is that I've actually been in many Brazilian cities MUCH whiter than the major french cities.

Easy to check my ass, there is barely a french public figure who isn't mixed/foreigner to some degree. xD You guys talk like France is a white country when it is in fact a mixed country where almost 50% of the newborn have non-european origins. :icon_lol:

Deal with this my deluded mongrelized friend, the future is dark:
https://www.breizh-info.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/DJuBx2dN.jpg

Sakis
01-31-2021, 05:35 PM
Come bitching about Iberians posting french people and trying to prevent them to do so reeks insecurity. French people are also dark, why can't you accept the truth ? Why does it bother you ?

You are the one here that tries to pass his agenda if you haven't noticed, you seem to care more about the French than your own people. French people on average wouldn't be considered dark, also truth doesn't bother me but stupidity does.

Cristiano viejo
01-31-2021, 05:38 PM
You are the one here that tries to pass his agenda if you haven't noticed, you seem to care more about the French than your own people. French people on average wouldn't be considered dark, also truth doesn't bother me but stupidity does.

How do you know he cares more about French than for his own people? because a single thread?
lol then yourself bother to yourself a lot, I would say, since you seem quite stupid.

Sebastianus Rex
01-31-2021, 05:47 PM
You are the one here that tries to pass his agenda if you haven't noticed, you seem to care more about the French than your own people. French people on average wouldn't be considered dark, also truth doesn't bother me but stupidity does.

You can check my posting history instead of writting stupidities, 90% or more of the people I post to classify are of my own people, If I've posted a dozen french for classification since I am a member (2011) is perhaps already too much, unlike other members who are not Iberian and post 90% Iberians...about those you say nothing.

Sakis
01-31-2021, 05:50 PM
How do you know he cares more about French than for his own people? because a single thread?
lol then yourself bother to yourself a lot, I would say, since you seem quite stupid.

Posting an atypical French just to reinforce a specific agenda is pure butthurtism. Such threads the only thing that they achieve is to make they one that started it to look like a fool.

Cristiano viejo
01-31-2021, 05:53 PM
Posting an atypical French just to reinforce a specific agenda is pure butthurtism. Such threads the only thing that they achieve is to make they one that started it to look like a fool.

You want to kill the soul of this forum, the flamewars, which are very entertaining.
I hate you! :mad:

Sakis
01-31-2021, 06:07 PM
You can check my posting history instead of writting stupidities, 90% or more of the people I post to classify are of my own people, If I've posted a dozen french for classification since I am a member (2011) is perhaps already too much, unlike other members who are not Iberian and post 90% Iberians...about those you say nothing.

That's because I don't give a fuck about non Europeans and their agendas on TA but seeing a European attacking a neighboring European country for no reason is sad.And the guy that you posted is partially non French which makes you look like a fool.

Damião de Góis
01-31-2021, 08:01 PM
That's because I don't give a fuck about non Europeans and their agendas on TA but seeing a European attacking a neighboring European country for no reason is sad.And the guy that you posted is partially non French which makes you look like a fool.

That reminded me of something else:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?197879-Portugal-s-Prime-Minister

The Blade
01-31-2021, 08:09 PM
Litorid + Berberid.

The Blade
01-31-2021, 08:18 PM
Nice joke but the sad true is that I've actually been in many Brazilian cities MUCH whiter than the major french cities.

Easy to check my ass, there is barely a french public figure who isn't mixed/foreigner to some degree. xD You guys talk like France is a white country when it is in fact a mixed country where almost 50% of the newborn have non-european origins. :icon_lol:

Deal with this my deluded mongrelized friend, the future is dark:
https://www.breizh-info.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/DJuBx2dN.jpg
Underlined part reminded me of this song by your compatriots, my friend:

https://youtu.be/lCu5mlHFs5s

Portugal and Spain are (for no reason and usually by idiot non-whites) the most darkwashed states in Western Europe - a fact.
That Belgian weirdo Septentrion is part of it, too.
Balkanites clash the same idiotism from Gypo-Uralics and Nordo-Mongols (I don't mean Scando Germanics but people living eastwards them) - LMAO, you are a clueless bunch.

Sakis
01-31-2021, 08:37 PM
That reminded me of something else:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?197879-Portugal-s-Prime-Minister

Stupid thread aswell.

Sebastianus Rex
01-31-2021, 09:01 PM
Posting an atypical French just to reinforce a specific agenda is pure butthurtism. Such threads the only thing that they achieve is to make they one that started it to look like a fool.

I am actually having fun, if anyone is butthurt is certainly not me but rather all the little bitches who came here crying. xD

But I indulge, from now on I will only post typical french we see on the streets. Preferably group pics. Happy?:patpat:

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/gettyimages-999556784-1531680866.jpg?crop=1.00xw:0.753xh;0,0.0714xh&resize=768:*

https://m.economictimes.com/thumb/height-450,width-600,imgsize-107040,msid-65001373/france-fans-go-wild-from-paris-to-moscow-after-thrilling-world-cup-win.jpg

VIVE LA FRANCE !!!
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_29/2499036/180716-france-celebrates-mc-_03688f5c859bfc3b414fd121749802b5.fit-760w.JPG

Latinus
01-31-2021, 09:11 PM
Pass easily as Brazilian. I say that because we don't have that much French people here.

Luso
01-31-2021, 09:24 PM
Jesus. This is embarrassing. Can’t you guys just accept there is phenotypical variety in most european countries, especially south? Guy op posted has French like features to me, just swarthier skin, so what? What’s so bad ab having dark skin?

Luso
01-31-2021, 09:40 PM
Quite different than the Spanish Carlos Clerc
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/193784-1490623959.jpg

Experts of TA such as Oliverio, Samnium, dududud the Med boy or Nassbean the parasite would swear on the Koran the Spanish is the French and the French is the Spanish :laugh2:

Nice, comparing a darker Frenchman to a light Spaniard who is not very typical either. What's next telling me this Spaniard is the most typical? HAHA :picard2: There is nothing wrong with looking Mediterranean. We are beautiful people, just accept that most of Iberia are med spectrum, with some nordo, and other euro influences as well. You circlejerk germanic looking people who have Spanish names, but if you see one without such then you say "I don't like germanics, Spanish look better." Just lol. Guy posted has french features, and isn't that atypical he just has darker skin than people like on here.

Cristiano viejo
01-31-2021, 10:18 PM
Nice, comparing a darker Frenchman to a light Spaniard who is not very typical either. What's next telling me this Spaniard is the most typical? HAHA :picard2: There is nothing wrong with looking Mediterranean. We are beautiful people, just accept that most of Iberia are med spectrum, with some nordo, and other euro influences as well. You circlejerk germanic looking people who have Spanish names, but if you see one without such then you say "I don't like germanics, Spanish look better." Just lol. Guy posted has french features, and isn't that atypical he just has darker skin than people like on here.
Are you idiot? I posted that Spaniard because his surname is the same, Clerc.

Yes, you are idiot since in all your posts have to claim "he is not typical Spaniard", as if someone had claimed that :picard1:

You are buttburt because you are dark and look like a Gypsy while normal people exist and look nothing like you.

Luso
01-31-2021, 10:27 PM
Are you idiot? I posted that Spaniard because his surname is the same, Clerc.

Yes, you are idiot since in all your posts have to claim "he is not typical Spaniard", as if someone had claimed that :picard1:

Work on your English writing skills then. It wasn't clear. Still, your intentions are obvious :coffee:


You are buttburt because you are dark and look like a Gypsy while normal people exist and look nothing like you.
Okay :thumb001:

Cristiano viejo
01-31-2021, 10:31 PM
Work on your English writing skills then. It wasn't clear. Still, your intentions are obvious :coffee:

Okay :thumb001:
How in hell wasnt I clear????:


Quite different than the Spanish Carlos Clerc

Pietro97
01-31-2021, 10:55 PM
luso and cristiano viejo

are the best couple in this forum

Cristiano viejo
01-31-2021, 10:58 PM
luso and cristiano viejo

are the best couple in this forum

Luso is my girlfriend. Jealous?

Centurion
02-02-2021, 12:41 AM
Octoroon.

Samnium
02-06-2021, 08:27 PM
Not funny at all.

He isn't that "exotic" but neither look fully French so (because he isn't).


That's enough we've got it, the French can not be dark unless they have Iberian origins...says all the Mena boys and franco-terroni of this enlightening forum.

Do you have a problem with "terroni" ? S.Italy was one of the most advanced areas in the world in Antiquity times, and you ? :)

Cristiano viejo
02-06-2021, 09:08 PM
Do you have a problem with "terroni" ? S.Italy was one of the most advanced areas in the world in Antiquity times, and you ? :)

They much more recently.

Sebastianus Rex
02-06-2021, 09:31 PM
Not funny at all.

He isn't that "exotic" but neither look fully French so (because he isn't).



Do you have a problem with "terroni" ? S.Italy was one of the most advanced areas in the world in Antiquity times, and you ? :)

Did I touched a soft spot?

No problems at all, I just find amusing that people with non-french origin act like the lord protectors of frenchieness.

But since you mentioned history, my country has also a great history, was the richest kingdom in the 16th century, one of the biggest empires etc...but whatever, I took no part in those achievements, it is not my merit and it's irrelevant nowadays.

Cristiano viejo
02-06-2021, 09:33 PM
Did I touched a soft spot?

No problems at all, I just find amusing that people with non-french origin act like the lord protectors of frenchieness.

But since you mentioned history, my country has also a great history, was the richest kingdom in the 16th century, one of the biggest empires etc...but whatever, I took no part in those achievements, it is not my merit and it's irrelevant nowadays.

Ejem ejem... the second one.

Sebastianus Rex
02-06-2021, 09:42 PM
Ejem ejem... the second one.

It was for most of that century because of the control of the spice trade, then there was the annexation and it was Spain in the end of the century.

Cristiano viejo
02-06-2021, 09:50 PM
It was for most of that century because of the control of the spice trade, then there was the annexation and it was Spain in the end of the century.
Gold, silver, resources, slave trade, etc of America > spice trade in Asia (in which by the way Spain was involved).

Our colonies, or empire, was much bigger. That meant more richness.

Damião de Góis
02-06-2021, 10:00 PM
Gold, silver, resources, slave trade, etc of America > spice trade in Asia (in which by the way Spain was involved).

Our colonies, or empire, was much bigger. That meant more richness.

No, Spain wasn't involved in the India spice trade. We had the monopoly and from what i read, in the 1500s our king was the richest in Europe.
But then that was lost with the Iberian Union.

Luso
02-06-2021, 10:00 PM
Gold, silver, resources, slave trade, etc of America > spice trade in Asia (in which by the way Spain was involved).

Our colonies, or empire, was much bigger. That meant more richness.

Well, Spain was bigger... so not a fair comparison in my opinion. Back then Portugal was underpopulated on a 1:4 ratio compared to Castille alone (without the Crown of Aragon). But in terms of the empire, the Portuguese empire had the lead on Spain for a while, this does change later though. Now, hypothetically, if you were to quantify the success of one or the other at the start of the age of exploration I'm certain by taking into consideration the population, and territory... Portugal took the lead. I'll gladly give Spain the throne after this.

Cristiano viejo
02-06-2021, 10:05 PM
No, Spain wasn't involved in the India spice trade. We had the monopoly and from what i read, in the 1500s our king was the richest in Europe.
But then that was lost with the Iberian Union.

Who talked about India?

Cristiano viejo
02-06-2021, 10:12 PM
Well, Spain was bigger... so not a fair comparison in my opinion.

I am quantifiying the empires, not the mere countries. Even without the empires Castilla alone probably was richer. We had the Moors of Granada paying us tribute, trading with Flanders, France and England, with whom we had the monopoly of the sale of wool, and the most powerful European navy.

If you add Aragón then Portugal does not resist the comparison. They owned half of Italy and the trade of the Mediterranean.

Damião de Góis
02-06-2021, 10:17 PM
Who talked about India?

The trade was centered in India but also included Indonesia (Malaca). For a while we had the monopoly in this and it's the reason all our army was there and why Brazil wasn't an important colony yet.

https://cdn-pi.niceshops.com/upload/image/banner/medium/default/9086.jpg

Cristiano viejo
02-06-2021, 10:20 PM
The trade was centered in India but also included Indonesia (Malaca). For a while we had the monopoly in this and it's the reason all our army was there and why Brazil wasn't an important colony yet.


I want to beliveve you have heard about the Manila Galleon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila_galleon

The Spanish inaugurated the Manila Galleon trade-route in 1565 after the Augustinian friar and navigator Andrés de Urdaneta discovered the tornaviaje or return route from the Philippines to Mexico. Urdaneta and by Alonso de Arellano made the first successful round-trips that year. The trade using "Urdaneta's route" lasted until 1815, when the Mexican War of Independence broke out. The Manila galleons sailed the Pacific for 250 years, bringing to the Americas cargoes of luxury goods such as spices and porcelain, in exchange for New World silver. The route also fostered cultural exchanges that shaped the identities and culture of the countries involved.

Damião de Góis
02-06-2021, 10:33 PM
I want to beliveve you have heard about the Manila Galleon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila_galleon

The Spanish inaugurated the Manila Galleon trade-route in 1565 after the Augustinian friar and navigator Andrés de Urdaneta discovered the tornaviaje or return route from the Philippines to Mexico. Urdaneta and by Alonso de Arellano made the first successful round-trips that year. The trade using "Urdaneta's route" lasted until 1815, when the Mexican War of Independence broke out. The Manila galleons sailed the Pacific for 250 years, bringing to the Americas cargoes of luxury goods such as spices and porcelain, in exchange for New World silver. The route also fostered cultural exchanges that shaped the identities and culture of the countries involved.

In 1565 Portugal was already well established in the Indian Ocean (not sure why you think Manila compares with the rest), and it's a fact we had the monopoly. It made us rich, and our king was the richest monarch in Europe. It's what i read, although i get that spanish books probably say our king was the poorest.

With the Iberian Union, this was lost to the dutch, who then got very rich themselves.

Cristiano viejo
02-06-2021, 10:39 PM
In 1565 Portugal was already well established in the Indian Ocean (not sure why you think Manila compares with the rest), and it's a fact we had the monopoly. It made us rich, and our king was the richest monarch in Europe. It's what i read, although i get that spanish books probably say our king was the poorest.

With the Iberian Union, this was lost to the dutch, who then got very rich themselves.
Manila has to do because you, or Luso, does not matter who really, said "Portuguese ruled the spice trade", which is not enterely true, as we can check.

It is like if I claim Spain ruled the spice trade "because Filipinas", obviating the rest of Asia.

Your king could be the richest in the history of mankind, that has nothing to do. I am pretty sure the current Moroccan king is richer than the Spanish one. Yet Spain is 1237755464888 billions richer than Morocco.

Damião de Góis
02-06-2021, 10:55 PM
Manila has to do because you, or Luso, does not matter who really, said "Portuguese ruled the spice trade", which is not enterely true, as we can check.

It is like if I claim Spain ruled the spice trade "because Filipinas", obviating the rest of Asia.

Your king could be the richest in the history of mankind, that has nothing to do. I am pretty sure the current Moroccan king is richer than the Spanish one. Yet Spain is 1237755464888 billions richer than Morocco.

When that Philipines route was established by Spain, Portugal was on its 20th viceroy in India. For several decades we did "rule the spice trade".

The money wasn't used to develop the country.

Cristiano viejo
02-06-2021, 11:08 PM
When that Philipines route was established by Spain, Portugal was on its 20th viceroy in India. For several decades we did "rule the spice trade".

The money wasn't used to develop the country.

ok I just say this

The Crown of Castile had organized the expedition of Christopher Columbus to compete with Portugal for the spice trade with Asia, but when Columbus landed on the island of Hispaniola (what is now Haiti) instead of in the Indies the search for a route to Asia was postponed until a few years later. After Vasco Núñez de Balboa crossed the Isthmus of Panama in 1513, the Spanish Crown prepared a westward voyage with Ferdinand Magellan, in order to reach Asia from Spain across the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. On October 21, 1520, his expedition crossed the Strait of Magellan in the southern tip of South America, opening the Pacific to European exploration. On March 16, 1521, the ships reached the Philippines and soon after the Spice Islands, ultimately resulting in the Manila Galleon trade, the first westward spice trade route to Asia. After Magellan's death in the Philippines, navigator Juan Sebastian Elcano took command of the expedition and drove it across the Indian Ocean and back to Spain, where they arrived in 1522 aboard the last remaining ship: the Victoria. For the next two and half centuries, Spain controlled a vast trade network that linked three continents: Asia, the Americas and Europe. A global spice route had been created: from Manila in the Philippines (Asia) to Seville in Spain (Europe), via Acapulco in Mexico (North America).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spice_trade#Age_of_European_Discovery:_finding_a_n ew_route_and_a_New_World

America changed it all.

hurtuv
02-14-2021, 05:48 PM
Looks quite dark French type, (rather obviously) fits in places like Iberia too.

Samnium
03-10-2021, 09:56 PM
Did I touched a soft spot?

No problems at all, I just find amusing that people with non-french origin act like the lord protectors of frenchieness.

I hadn't seen your answer, so your message about Southern Italy show only that you are deeply ignorant about this area of Europe. You literally know nothing about it, and still.

And what are talking about ? I'm half French, I have a french surname and even a french phenotype. I've only said that Julien Clerc being 1/8 afr. is a bit off in my opinion, but still looks mostly French.

Mind your own business, I know many 100% French who have exactly the same ideology and attitude as mine. Irrelevant point.