This is where the Behar Romanias are from

[Ion Basescul]

LMAO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A2lcele,_Covasna


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Vâlcele has an ethnically mixed population. According to the 2011 census (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Census), it has a population of 4,292, of which 48.3% or 2,071 are Roma (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people), 39.4% or 1,689 are Romanians (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_people) and 9.9% or 427 are Székely (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sz%C3%A9kely) Hungarians (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_people). 100 people, or 2.3%, belong to other ethnicities.

Their DNA results in K13

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2 of them were pure Romas/Gypsies, though I do not have their results.

[Jana]

^^^^These aren't mixed with Gypsies though. All look like regular Romanian results.

[Ion Basescul]

^^^^These aren't mixed with Gypsies though.

No, there weren't any who were mixed in that dataset. Just these and the other two were pure Romas. This can be seen easily on the PCA from the study. Their Armenians are also very funny and professional.

https://media.springernature.com/lw685/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1038%2Fnature09103/MediaObjects/41586_2010_Article_BFnature09103_Fig2_HTML.jpg

I just find it weird that they went looking for Romanians in a Hungarian majority county firstly and in a Roma majority village secondly. Seems like they were completely clueless of what they were doing.

[Jana]

Agree. I found academic studies sampling suprisingly poor in many cases.

[CommonSense]

The academic studies aren't bad at analyzing the DNA itself, it's their sampling methodology that often doesn't make any sense.

[Nurzat]

but Europe is so genetically homogenous that when compared to non-Euros a Sardinian or a Finn work just the same as good. so even if they would have sampled Aromanians in Thessaly or Istroromanians in Istria/Croatia, it would have been just as relevant as Romanians in Bessarabia or Transylvania or Oltenia etc for the Romanian/Vlach ethnic group