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Vid Flumina
02-09-2021, 10:55 AM
https://i.imgur.com/BGl6zRV.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/HG1tVPJ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/2FdAXtj.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/aqwGfGX.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/6Sb34Vj.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Kc71ywq.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/O6i6M2X.jpg



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYDI-3TAbHU

jmls
02-09-2021, 11:09 AM
Some sort of CM

chociprasa
02-09-2021, 12:47 PM
Borreby-Med + minor Dinarid

Immanenz
02-09-2021, 12:51 PM
Alpinized Faelid + minor Atlantid

Mortimer
02-10-2021, 09:01 AM
He looks white

Immanenz
02-10-2021, 09:04 AM
He looks German

fixed.

Graywolf
02-10-2021, 09:08 AM
Brünn

Lateranense
02-10-2021, 09:18 AM
Faelid alpine, looks German imho.

Xacal
02-10-2021, 11:12 AM
Faelid + Alpine

Vid Flumina
02-10-2021, 05:26 PM
fixed.

:)

any region in particular or sim. pan german ? where else can he pass ?

Ouistreham
02-11-2021, 04:05 AM
Giraudo is typically a surname from that part of North West Italy that used to speak Alpine-Provençal Occitan and wrote French.

(This bloke was born in Cuneo, close to Nice and the French border).

His name is a semi-Italianate form of Provençal Giraud (the "normal" Italian cognate would be Giraldi).

Vid Flumina
02-11-2021, 10:58 AM
His name is a semi-Italianate form of Provençal Giraud (the "normal" Italian cognate would be Giraldi).

And this is why arguably the most iconic dish of Piedmontese cuisine is called Bagna càuda, bravo.

Other sound changes in standard Piedmontese you might not be aware of :

Italian fuoco > Lombard fögh > Piedmontese feu (fr. feu)
Italian occhio > Lombard öcc > Piedmontese euj (fr. œil)
Italian notte > Lombard nöcc > Piedmontese neuit (fr. nuit)
Italian falso > Lombard fals > Piedmontese fàuss (fr. faux)
Italian alto > Lombard alt > Piedmontese àut (fr. haut)

etc.
hence all the Baudino, Audisio, Pautasso, Rinaudo in the province

Immanenz
02-11-2021, 10:59 AM
:)

any region in particular or sim. pan german ? where else can he pass ?

no particular one, i guess he pass in generally in West Europe and even in the North he would not be that much noticed as a foreigner

Sebastianus Rex
02-11-2021, 12:32 PM
Looks like a reduced faelid.

Latinus
02-11-2021, 01:46 PM
Alpinized Faelid.

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Jon96
02-11-2021, 01:55 PM
Pseudo Timo Werner vibe honestly.

Ouistreham
02-11-2021, 02:34 PM
And this is why arguably the most iconic dish of Piedmontese cuisine is called Bagna càuda, bravo.

Other sound changes in standard Piedmontese you might not be aware of :

Italian fuoco > Lombard fögh > Piedmontese feu (fr. feu)
Italian occhio > Lombard öcc > Piedmontese euj (fr. œil)
Italian notte > Lombard nöcc > Piedmontese neuit (fr. nuit)
Italian falso > Lombard fals > Piedmontese fàuss (fr. faux)
Italian alto > Lombard alt > Piedmontese àut (fr. haut)

etc.
hence all the Baudino, Audisio, Pautasso, Rinaudo in the province

I know that earliest Piedmontese was closer to Occitan (in grammar, phonology, vocabulary) than to any Italian dialect, even Lombard. Il even made plurals with -s!
(Its peripheral situation within the Occitan continuum was very similar to that of Catalan)

BTW I noticed that surnames ending in -o or -a are common place in both North (especially Piedmont) and South Italy, whilst in Central Italy the names ending with -I are absolutely predominant.
Possibly related to the fact that the Roman family model (whereby the basic social unit was not the nuclear household but the enlarged patriarchal family, the clan, the gens) survived longer there than elsewhere?