JamesBond007
02-11-2021, 07:11 AM
Hello, everyone,
I understand the appeal of G25 but not so much K13 and I think K15 might be the best calculator for Europeans because G25 is too fine-grained for modern European populations etc... and K13 is mainly a north/south calculator while K15 adds West/East dimensions and I think K15 is technically supposed to the the replacement for EUtest v1 not K13 so that is another reason to suppose it is better than K13.
I'll use myself as a case study not so much because we can extrapolate it to mean it is the most accurate for all other peoples but because I lack data for others , to a significant degree, except formyself so perhaps in sharing this other people can opine and we can see the bigger picture even if not officially 'scientific' in consensus. Also, obviously I have the most motivation to do this for myself rather than others but hopefully others can opine here.
However, let me first state the I annoint Mortimer as Pontifux Maximus of the apricity -- he told me that I'm paleo-atlantid with minor Upper Paleolithic while others said the more inane sounding "atlantid with minor dinarid" like I'm magically French or something :picard1:
Vahaduo K15 :
Distance to: Kevin
2.53950783 English_Midlands
2.54597722 English_North
2.60653026 English
2.62463331 Welsh
2.64041663 English_Southeast
3.43611699 English_Southwest
3.47788729 Dutch_Central
3.49177605 Dutch
3.61364082 Scottish
etc....
^ I think people when they think of England Southern England and that everything above south England is 'Harry Potter land" so they are unaware that Paleo-Atlantid can be a English look and they might tend to associate it more with Wales (understandably ) and Scotland. For instance, the outsider XenophobicPrussian said I look more Welsh/Cornish/Devonshire English while not a bad guess , actually pretty damn good, human perception can't compete with genetic analysis:
England = 25% Keltic Nordic (derived from pre-Roman invaders), 15% Anglo-Saxon (post-Roman Germanic invaders, most common in the southeast, especially East Anglia), 15% Brünn {indigenous Paleolithic inhabitants}, 15% North-Atlantid and 10% Palaeo-Atlantid (blend of Mesolithic Atlanto-Mediterranean invaders with both earlier and later arrivals; most common in the Midlands and northwest), 8% Hallstatt Nordic (of Viking and Norman derivation), 5% Trønder (of Norwegian Viking derivation; most common in the northeast), 3% Borreby and 2% Fälish (both of Viking and Norman derivation; associated with the landed gentry; source of the "John Bull" type), 2% Noric (from Bronze-Age invaders) = 100% Nordish (73% central and 27% periphery types)
My picture as mister Paleo-Atlantid :
https://i.postimg.cc/PxFHXgr7/2021-02-10-101029.jpg[/center]
Now , so I mean what else to say ? I'll collaborate it with academic tools. Now qpAdm/admixture2 is an elite academic tool honestly the academic samples I found where not as detailed overall and it is really a pain in the ass to merge them into a coherent set since they tend to be eclectically mixed for their own idiosyncratic needs or studies. I did use it a little but and it did have me clustering with Great Britain but that is about all I can say on that.
However, using an older tool here which perhaps is also overlooked :
Spatial Ancestry analysis (SPA) is a method for predicting ancestry or where an individual is from using the individual's DNA. Accurately modeling ancestry is an important step in identifying genetic variation involved in disease.
http://genetics.cs.ucla.edu/spa/
https://i.postimg.cc/CKL0J2LN/me.png
BTW, rather flood this post with to much information I'll just say that G25 has my closest populations as 1.) Dutch 2.) Norwegian and 3.) Welsh and K13 depending in the rendition (vahduo, gedmatch, genoplot etc.. ) as IRISH ! or English but overall they just don't seem as accurate. I'm sure the Dutch and the Norwegians are fine people but I'm sorry I'm just not Dutch or Norwegian !
I'm adding a poll and I'm sorry if I talked too much about myself here so please share your experiences so in this thread so I seem less narcisstic please ! I'm adding a poll too !
I understand the appeal of G25 but not so much K13 and I think K15 might be the best calculator for Europeans because G25 is too fine-grained for modern European populations etc... and K13 is mainly a north/south calculator while K15 adds West/East dimensions and I think K15 is technically supposed to the the replacement for EUtest v1 not K13 so that is another reason to suppose it is better than K13.
I'll use myself as a case study not so much because we can extrapolate it to mean it is the most accurate for all other peoples but because I lack data for others , to a significant degree, except formyself so perhaps in sharing this other people can opine and we can see the bigger picture even if not officially 'scientific' in consensus. Also, obviously I have the most motivation to do this for myself rather than others but hopefully others can opine here.
However, let me first state the I annoint Mortimer as Pontifux Maximus of the apricity -- he told me that I'm paleo-atlantid with minor Upper Paleolithic while others said the more inane sounding "atlantid with minor dinarid" like I'm magically French or something :picard1:
Vahaduo K15 :
Distance to: Kevin
2.53950783 English_Midlands
2.54597722 English_North
2.60653026 English
2.62463331 Welsh
2.64041663 English_Southeast
3.43611699 English_Southwest
3.47788729 Dutch_Central
3.49177605 Dutch
3.61364082 Scottish
etc....
^ I think people when they think of England Southern England and that everything above south England is 'Harry Potter land" so they are unaware that Paleo-Atlantid can be a English look and they might tend to associate it more with Wales (understandably ) and Scotland. For instance, the outsider XenophobicPrussian said I look more Welsh/Cornish/Devonshire English while not a bad guess , actually pretty damn good, human perception can't compete with genetic analysis:
England = 25% Keltic Nordic (derived from pre-Roman invaders), 15% Anglo-Saxon (post-Roman Germanic invaders, most common in the southeast, especially East Anglia), 15% Brünn {indigenous Paleolithic inhabitants}, 15% North-Atlantid and 10% Palaeo-Atlantid (blend of Mesolithic Atlanto-Mediterranean invaders with both earlier and later arrivals; most common in the Midlands and northwest), 8% Hallstatt Nordic (of Viking and Norman derivation), 5% Trønder (of Norwegian Viking derivation; most common in the northeast), 3% Borreby and 2% Fälish (both of Viking and Norman derivation; associated with the landed gentry; source of the "John Bull" type), 2% Noric (from Bronze-Age invaders) = 100% Nordish (73% central and 27% periphery types)
My picture as mister Paleo-Atlantid :
https://i.postimg.cc/PxFHXgr7/2021-02-10-101029.jpg[/center]
Now , so I mean what else to say ? I'll collaborate it with academic tools. Now qpAdm/admixture2 is an elite academic tool honestly the academic samples I found where not as detailed overall and it is really a pain in the ass to merge them into a coherent set since they tend to be eclectically mixed for their own idiosyncratic needs or studies. I did use it a little but and it did have me clustering with Great Britain but that is about all I can say on that.
However, using an older tool here which perhaps is also overlooked :
Spatial Ancestry analysis (SPA) is a method for predicting ancestry or where an individual is from using the individual's DNA. Accurately modeling ancestry is an important step in identifying genetic variation involved in disease.
http://genetics.cs.ucla.edu/spa/
https://i.postimg.cc/CKL0J2LN/me.png
BTW, rather flood this post with to much information I'll just say that G25 has my closest populations as 1.) Dutch 2.) Norwegian and 3.) Welsh and K13 depending in the rendition (vahduo, gedmatch, genoplot etc.. ) as IRISH ! or English but overall they just don't seem as accurate. I'm sure the Dutch and the Norwegians are fine people but I'm sorry I'm just not Dutch or Norwegian !
I'm adding a poll and I'm sorry if I talked too much about myself here so please share your experiences so in this thread so I seem less narcisstic please ! I'm adding a poll too !