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hurtuv
02-13-2021, 04:57 PM
You may also pass/place, if you want.
CEO/economist, also TV commentator, did great commentary on the actuation of the government about the pandemic.
Surnames like Norton or Bettencourt are old in Portugal, not really viewed as foreign, and not indicative of recent foreign ancestry (except in exceptional cases).
He's average pigmented for Portugal with a bit of a tan, but facial features wise the idea I have is that if he was light pigmented he'd look very Northern. What do you think? The way he's pigmented, I can still see him passing as a dark German for instance.

https://i.postimg.cc/wj0WdyD6/norton1.jpg (https://postimg.cc/K137PY9V)
https://i.postimg.cc/nhPvkvvQ/norton2.png (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/1X3GBMYw/norton4.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/3xNKhGz1/norton5.jpg (https://postimg.cc/5XccqX4Q)

Geschichte
02-13-2021, 05:21 PM
The second picture is the one where he can pass best as a dark German, still not typical.

Kivan
02-13-2021, 05:25 PM
Atlanto-Med.

Damiăo de Góis
02-13-2021, 05:34 PM
I think he seems more southern shifted. Maybe a darker berid.

https://cdn2.jornaldenegocios.pt/images/2016-03/img_900x560$2016_03_04_18_30_00_278798.jpg

hurtuv
02-13-2021, 05:36 PM
The second picture is the one where he can pass best as a dark German, still not typical.

Nothing like an actual German opinion on the matter :thumb001:

Oliver109
02-13-2021, 08:30 PM
Just looks standard Portuguese to me, Norton is a very middle class English name, how did it get to Portugal?

Cernunnos
02-13-2021, 08:37 PM
Just looks standard Portuguese to me, Norton is a very middle class English name, how did it get to Portugal?

Many ways. That fella could even have recent English ancestry, which is most likely the case.

hurtuv
02-14-2021, 01:01 AM
Just looks standard Portuguese to me, Norton is a very middle class English name, how did it get to Portugal?


Many ways. That fella could even have recent English ancestry, which is most likely the case.

He looks normal Portuguese alright, I might classify him as a Atlanto-Med/Paleo Atlantid intermediate; more than once have different people said not so jockingly that some Northern types would just be like depigmented meds, so the Northern shift I see in his facial features might not be that much compared to an average Portuguese, but would be enough for him to look very Northern if he was light pigmented imo.

According to this website, the surname Norton in Portugal is only 4.4x less common than in England and 2.38x than in Wales
https://forebears.io/surnames/norton

A famous Portuguese Norton, there is a big neighbourhood in my city named after him, and various streets and avenues throughout the country as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Norton_de_Matos

However, I was talking more about Bettencourt than Norton when I said it was generally not viewed as recent foreign, but still; I suppose this perception regarding Bettencourt is more widespread (with particular association with the Azores), while Norton might be more variable. Cernnunos, what's your experience with these names?

Jon96
02-14-2021, 06:38 AM
Does look normal Portuguese as you claim. He's also rather dark featured, but you said he has a bit of a tan. Maybe he likes the tan look so he maintains it year round.