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Hungarian_master
02-16-2021, 09:07 AM
Vámosújfalu is a village of Northeast Hungary (Borsod county, where I live).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A1mos%C3%BAjfalu

This is a multi-ethnic village, where lives Hungarians, Rusyns and Gypsies.
But rank them by these countries:
France
Slovakia
Montenegro
Bulgaria
Spain
Denmark
Poland
Turkey
Germany
Russia
UK

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Hungarian_master
02-16-2021, 09:31 AM
BUMP!

Altaylı
02-16-2021, 10:08 AM
They look really multi ethnic
Best fits: Montenegro Bulgaria and slovakia
Worst fits Denmark and Germany

Norics Dinarics Pontids,CM's some Nordids and some south asian

Also There are too many central euro looking person here i think only some of them can pass in Turkey others i dont think

Gypsy ones can pass as gypsy in Turkey but i am not sure

The Blade
02-16-2021, 10:09 AM
I wonder when will you post a group that's not mainly consisting of kids and elderly people...

The Blade
02-16-2021, 10:11 AM
And why would I rank a multiracial (by your words and by the looks of some people on photos) region?

Hungarian_master
02-16-2021, 10:15 AM
I wonder when will you post a group that's not mainly consisting of kids and elderly people...

I like to use pitcures about village people, because there are only locals.

I think, the elderly people could be classify, too. Could be interesting phenotypes on this age.

On the TA almost all group pitcures for taxonomy are young people, but I'm tired of that. That's why I even use group pitcures of the elderly and middle-aged people.

The Blade
02-16-2021, 10:26 AM
I like to use pitcures about village people, because there are only locals.

I think, the elderly people could be classify, too. Could be interesting phenotypes on this age.

On the TA almost all group pitcures for taxonomy are young people, but I'm tired of that. That's why I even use group pitcures of the elderly and middle-aged people.
All these threads usually lead to the same answers and rankings, dude. Hungarians, even though regional differences exist (as is the case with every country that's not a microstate), fit best in other Central Euro states and most Balkan ones. You cannot post three threads where one group would fit best in Bulgaria, another one in Denmark and the third in Portugal. The phenotypes of Hungarians are usually in the North Pontid-Norid-Atlantid-Dinarid-Pontid-Nordid-Alpinid-Gorid-Baltid-Tronder-Balto-CM-Borreby-Sub-Nordid-Brunn-Faelid-Atlanto-Med range with also some East Med, Turanid and East Baltid admix. These are normally the answers in such threads. Nevertheless, it's a fact that children who haven't hit puberty aren't a good object of classification and features start diluting with age. These threads always end the same way.

Hungarian_master
02-16-2021, 11:10 AM
And why would I rank a multiracial (by your words and by the looks of some people on photos) region?

The ranking is alternative.

If you don't want ranking them, would you classify them.

Also, Tooting Carmen post threads about U.S resident Latin American ethnicities, which are multiracial groups. For example this: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?275432-State-the-main-phenotypes-of-Cuban-American-residents-from-Little-Havana-Miami

With the Gypsy pitcures, I want to please to Mortimer and show the ethnicity proportions the my region (NE Hungary, which have the largest Gypsy population in whole Hungary).

The Blade
02-16-2021, 11:21 AM
The ranking is alternative.

If you don't want ranking them, would you classify them.

Also, Tooting Carmen post threads about U.S resident Latin American ethnicities, which are multiracial groups. For example this: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?275432-State-the-main-phenotypes-of-Cuban-American-residents-from-Little-Havana-Miami

With the Gypsy pitcures, I want to please to Mortimer and show the ethnicity proportions the my region (NE Hungary, which have the largest Gypsy population in whole Hungary).
I already described my opinion of Hungarian phenotypes in general which in this case also matches the general consensus on this topic.
Latin America and certain parts of the US have been multicultural and multiracial regions for centuries for reasons completely different. This is ''The New World'', there was no core European population before that.
I don't care whom you want to please. Neither Hungarians, nor other Europeans see Gypsies as part of their own. This is pure garbage.

Hungarian_master
02-16-2021, 11:28 AM
I already described my opinion of Hungarian phenotypes in general which in this case also matches the general consensus on this topic.
Latin America and certain parts of the US have been multicultural and multiracial regions for centuries for reasons completely different. This is ''The New World'', there was no core European population before that.
I don't care whom you want to please. Neither Hungarians, nor do other Europeans see Gypsies as part of their own. This is pure garbage.

But the Hungarian Gypsies often have Hungarian identity, also unique thing, that almost all of them speak only in the native language (the Romani speakers are rare in Hungary).
The racial discrimination exist in the New World countries, too.

Also, this thread is not ethnically based, but maybe I Will make thread about Hungarian Germans, Gypsies, Croats and other minorities.

The Blade
02-16-2021, 11:36 AM
But the Hungarian Gypsies often have Hungarian identity, also unique thing, that almost all of them speak only in the native language (the Romani speakers are rare in Hungary).
The racial discrimination exist in the New World countries, too.

Also, this thread is not ethnically based, but maybe I Will make thread about Hungarian Germans, Gypsies, Croats and other minorities.
They can have whatever identity they want. It's ok some of them are into Hungarian culture.
However, they remain a different race and I wouldn't rank a mixed European region.

Hungarian_master
02-16-2021, 11:36 AM
The Blade! I wonder in your behavior, because in other times are you looser.

Hungarian_master
02-16-2021, 11:38 AM
I sorry to everybody, that thread is embarrassing!

Should be close this thread!

The Blade
02-16-2021, 11:39 AM
The Blade! I wonder in your behavior, because in other times are you looser.
Man, you need to really get some things clear in your mind. This goes for politics, European culture and race.

Kivan
02-16-2021, 11:43 AM
Most look too old for classification but many look apparently Dinarid influenced.

As for ranking the white ones, i'd say the Balkan options for best fiting.
The worst i'd say Russia and Northern European options.

Oliver109
02-16-2021, 12:43 PM
All these threads usually lead to the same answers and rankings, dude. Hungarians, even though regional differences exist (as is the case with every country that's not a microstate), fit best in other Central Euro states and most Balkan ones. You cannot post three threads where one group would fit best in Bulgaria, another one in Denmark and the third in Portugal. The phenotypes of Hungarians are usually in the North Pontid-Norid-Atlantid-Dinarid-Pontid-Nordid-Alpinid-Gorid-Baltid-Tronder-Balto-CM-Borreby-Sub-Nordid-Brunn-Faelid-Atlanto-Med range with also some East Med, Turanid and East Baltid admix. These are normally the answers in such threads. Nevertheless, it's a fact that children who haven't hit puberty aren't a good object of classification and features start diluting with age. These threads always end the same way.

With children it is obviously hard to classify those who are under the age of 11 or so, many of these kids are preteens and already show the distinctive features of that part of Hungary, in other words they look Alpine or Med generally, as for the elderly, again you still notice their generally central/east Euro facial features, again there are many Alpines it seems with a Med component, this area is very distinct from Germany and western Europe but aligns more with Croatia, Poland and Romania.

hurtuv
02-16-2021, 01:55 PM
Look like a mix of Balkanic and Ukrainian people. Among many types, there are quite a few Gorids. As for passing in Spain/Portugal, if you take each picture individually, many of those smaller groups can pass, at least at first sight, could be different upon closer inspection of facial features.

TheMaestro
02-16-2021, 02:11 PM
Vámosújfalu? That's in Nortwest ye? Wierdly they look more southern shifted towards Romania/Vojvodina, gypsies excluded.

Benyzero
02-16-2021, 02:13 PM
The master is activated again, here comes the old people cunami

Blondie
02-16-2021, 02:56 PM
The master is activated again, here comes the old people cunami

with kids and elders again :thumb001:

Immanenz
02-16-2021, 03:16 PM
I think this set is more southeast shifted (towards Romania i guess) outside the few Indid influenced individuals. more Pontid types etc