Classify Irish actors Stephen Boyd and Peter O'Toole

[Centurion]

1. Stephen Boyd

He is famous for playing Messala in Ben-Hur.

Height: 1m83

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2. Peter O'Toole

Height: 1m88

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[Sebastianus Rex]

Boyd - atlanto+brunn
O'toole - nordid

[Tooting Carmen]

Boyd - atlanto+brunn
O'toole - nordid

O'Toole is more KN than wholesale Nordid IMO.

[Xacal]

Atlantid + Brunn
Kelto-Brunn

[Latinus]

These are faces I picture when thinking of white America's founding WASP stock, even if they are Irish, but they have a huge phenotypical overlap with the English.

[Sebastianus Rex]

O'Toole is more KN than wholesale Nordid IMO.

I don't see some key KN traits such as dinarcization/nose convexity, relative low skull, neither a sloping forehead. But seeing side pics of him it's true he has not the typical quasi rhomboid skull of the Hallstatt type. Perhaps an intermediate but pred. Nordid nevertheless.

[Immanenz]

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[Immanenz]

O'Toole is more KN than wholesale Nordid IMO.

yeah, he does has little local influences but most "pure" Nordids- aka SkandoNordids have evident residual Cm influences

Sydow does not look terrible different with different coloring

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/BP8HGJ/peter-otoole-the-ruling-class-1972-BP8HGJ.jpg
https://c8.alamy.com/compde/bp89je/max-von-sydow-die-grosste-geschichte-erzahlt-aller-zeiten-1965-bp89je.jpg

[Centurion]

Atlantid + Brunn
Kelto-Brunn

O'toole is morke KN I agree. In the pic where he is old he looks like a druid.

[Steppe Timelord]

O'toole is morke KN I agree. In the pic where he is old he looks like a druid.

O toole wasn't KN, he's 70% brunn 30% nordid (perhaps corded), a nordid heavily admixed with the native CM celtic components(aka brunn and atlantid). He looked to me more as a North Atlantid rather than keltic, he was 0 keltic lol. That nose sellion root is too depressed and not enough dinaromorphic like.

These are real kelto-nordids:


Colin Hay (rather kelto-brunnish):
https://www.gratefulweb.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/IMG_3704.jpg

https://images.pulsewebcontent.com/photos/2020/01_Jan/800/ColinHay800_1_20.jpg


Ed O'Neill (who's Kelto-Borreby actually):

https://imagez.tmz.com/image/1f/4by3/2018/06/13/1f50f5e92b1b52c9845e98fec76ba614_xl.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b3/83/30/b383308b6d650fb26c792a041440c1e5.jpg


aaaand...

Christopher Eccleston (near textbook KN)

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNjIyNjNiYjgtNGE1Mi00YmM4LWI3M2YtODlmYjI0NjM3NG RhXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMTkxNjUyNQ@@._V1_UY317_CR131,0,2 14,317_AL_.jpg
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/christopher_eccleston_natalie_singer_33206008_696_ 970.jpg

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/B2A4/production/_108823754_ecclestonegetty.jpg



then look again at some photos of Lorcan, see and kompare:

https://static.cinemagia.ro/img/db/actor/00/55/23/peter-otoole-859983l.jpg?ts=1311195042
https://static.cinemagia.ro/img/resize/db/actor/00/55/23/peter-otoole-297389l-poza.jpg
https://static.cinemagia.ro/img/db/actor/00/55/23/peter-otoole-133993l.jpg?ts=1253269015


He's obviously not a KN type, rather something archaic, like CM, even though he's longfaced. CMs can be both long faced (those unreduced) and square faced.
In the first pic he looks unironically something southern akin to berid-atlantid. But this is still brunn, a celtic specialized type.

[Steppe Timelord]

Also forgot about stephen boyd: Atlantid + keltic (nose tip) + alpine

[Steppe Timelord]

double...