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Jana
02-26-2021, 08:47 AM
I uploaded my 23andme raw data with hope to get better genetic groups than what MH gave me and I got a huge suprise xD

https://i.imgur.com/zoCVFRu.png

WTF??

Mortimer
02-26-2021, 08:59 AM
Write them a email and ask them I have a similar genetic group but mine is romani in Hungary vojvodina and Romania im content because I'm from vojvodina

Jana
02-26-2021, 09:05 AM
They don't answer to any e-mails.

Mortimer
02-26-2021, 09:06 AM
They don't answer to any e-mails.

Maybe they make fun of you because you are racist

Jana
02-26-2021, 09:07 AM
Maybe they make fun of you because you are racist

Go on diet.

Benyzero
02-26-2021, 09:13 AM
xD Ancient Roman(i)

reboun
02-26-2021, 09:31 AM
If you have elevated South Asian and-or West Asian on GEDmatch results then it might have given you Romani estimation.

Mortimer
02-26-2021, 09:50 AM
Do you have any German genetic group?

TheMaestro
02-26-2021, 09:56 AM
Is it just a noise? Those additional information could be with a low confidence, well still better than my results again where they completely ignore my mothers side DNA.
https://i.imgur.com/GPbgH0L.png

Mortimer
02-26-2021, 09:56 AM
I have hungarian as genetic group both roma in Hungary and properly Hungary

Mortimer
02-26-2021, 09:59 AM
https://i.ibb.co/5jWX3nJ/Screenshot-20210226-115455-org-adblockplus-browser.jpg (https://ibb.co/Zg6RrYb)

Benyzero
02-26-2021, 09:59 AM
I have hungarian as genetic group both roma in Hungary and properly Hungary

my man

TheMaestro
02-26-2021, 10:00 AM
my man

He is more Hungarian than me,no kidding

Mortimer
02-26-2021, 10:01 AM
my man

It could be related to my mtdna which could be from Hungary or from Danube swabians but it would be very distant I think it could be related to my mtdna

Scandal
02-26-2021, 11:08 AM
What is the level of confidence?

Jana
02-26-2021, 11:10 AM
If you have elevated South Asian and-or West Asian on GEDmatch results then it might have given you Romani estimation.

I have elevated West Asian, and score 0% south Asian everywhere.


What is the level of confidence?

Low, but still.

Jana
02-26-2021, 11:11 AM
Do you have any German genetic group?

No, neither does my mother.

Scandal
02-26-2021, 11:29 AM
No, neither does my mother.

It doesn't mean much. Chris (now inactive) is fully hungarian and didn't get any Hungarian genetic groups. So it doesn't work well always.

Jana
02-26-2021, 11:35 AM
It doesn't mean much. Chris (now inactive) is fully hungarian and didn't get any Hungarian genetic groups. So it doesn't work well always.

I didn't get Split-Dalmatia either (despite half of my ancestry is Dalmatian, half of it exactly from Split-Dalmatia county), neither did my mom and dad who are both half Dalmatians (father Dalmatian side is fully from Split-Dalmatia). But Hrvoje got it, and he has no known Dalmatian ancestry. Hrvoje also got groups like Finnish from northern Ostrobothinia, wtf? Chances he has sth to do with such remote and far away region are extremely small.

reboun
02-26-2021, 11:44 AM
No, neither does my mother.

How much German ancestry do you have and does it show in Oracle?

Scandal
02-26-2021, 11:45 AM
I didn't get Split-Dalmatia either (despite half of my ancestry is Dalmatian, half of it exactly from Split-Dalmatia county), neither did my mom and dad who are both half Dalmatians (father Dalmatian side is fully from Split-Dalmatia). But Hrvoje got it, and he has no known Dalmatian ancestry. Hrvoje also got groups like Finnish from northern Ostrobothinia, wtf? Chances he has sth to do with such remote and far away region are extremely small.

It worked well for me. I got Slovak with high confidence, even though my Slovak ancestors moved away from Slovakia (northern Hungary at the time) around 300 years ago. I also got Hungarian with low confidence. Myheritage calls it 'Central European', not hungarian and it's a genetic group stretching to multiple countries, but their most common surnames are Hungarian.
Maybe in the future they will improve the test for Croats, idk.

Peterski
02-26-2021, 11:46 AM
Stearsolina you are a Serbian Gypsy now. :)

Jana
02-26-2021, 11:47 AM
I can claim endangered minority privileges now :cool:

Ion Basescul
02-26-2021, 11:50 AM
I uploaded my 23andme raw data with hope to get better genetic groups than what MH gave me and I got a huge suprise xD

https://i.imgur.com/zoCVFRu.png

WTF??

Congrats, I also have the LivingDNA test which I've uploaded yesterday. Fingers crossed for Gypsy

Satem
02-26-2021, 12:33 PM
Soon The Apricity - Gypsy Cultural Community?

It will turn out everyone is to some degree Gypsy and Morti is our leader:rolleyes:

ixulescu
02-26-2021, 12:48 PM
Soon The Apricity - Gypsy Cultural Community?

It will turn out everyone is to some degree Gypsy and Morti is our leader:rolleyes:

Soon all eastern euro results will show gypsy, gay and intersex as a potential match - you don't like it, you're a racist and a bigot.

Dušan
02-26-2021, 12:52 PM
O irony :lol:

gixajo
02-26-2021, 12:56 PM
Stearsolina you are a Serbian Gypsy now. :)

Don´t forget her "jewish" percentage...:picard1:

Roy
02-26-2021, 01:02 PM
LMAO you need to break up with Stears and hook up with Morty! Stears is not a Gypsy afficionado as far as I know.

Dušan
02-26-2021, 01:17 PM
Stearsolina's song starts at 2:00
"Blonde Gypsy girl" :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpWH6tEuWME

Hulu
02-26-2021, 01:18 PM
Those eyebrows had to come from somewhere :eyes:

Ion Basescul
02-26-2021, 02:06 PM
Stearsolina's song starts at 2:00
"Blonde Gypsy girl" :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpWH6tEuWME


https://youtu.be/i1gvPva38Nk

Figaro
02-26-2021, 02:53 PM
That is kind of weird for you; probably nothing, especially since you say it's under "Low" confidence. I mean, it also says you're English, as well :p

Scandal
02-26-2021, 03:00 PM
Maybe it's because gypsies are partially southeastern European genetically?

Leto
02-26-2021, 03:07 PM
A daily reminder that Balkan Gypsies are only about 1/3 Pajeet.

Gallop
02-26-2021, 03:20 PM
In the green dot of Spain they have put a great variety of gypsies from Eastern Europe, many Spanish users are surprised because they have not been given the necessary socio-cultural conditions and there is not enough time for such a feat, nor do they have family oral tradition, nor documents to prove it.

So it must be a My Heritage screw-up.

Ion Basescul
02-26-2021, 03:44 PM
Maybe it's because gypsies are partially southeastern European genetically?

In general I wouldn't take these groups too seriously.
With MyHeritage tested kit I get Romania, which is fine and another group for Poles and South Italians in Poland, Italy and Chicago. The latter makes zero sense. With the 23andme upload, I receive Romania and then East Slavic group and French in France. East Slavic I understand, but French in France doesn't add up. Mom for example doesn't receive Ukrainians in Moldova group, but instead it is noticed in my father who doesn't have documented Ukrainian ancestry. My brother receives Germans in Saxony and Hannover if I'm not mistaken, which again appears out of the blue.

Dušan
02-26-2021, 04:14 PM
I thing it is from her paternal Bosnian Muslim side.

Most common surnames in this genetic group are Muslim ones.

https://i.imgur.com/SIe99HP.png

And among top places is Prijedor, town that is close to Dubica where her Muslim ancestors lived.

https://i.imgur.com/rRI8PGz.png

Hulu
02-26-2021, 05:16 PM
This is what I get

EUROPE
Greek and South Italian
94.0%
Albania and Northwestern Greece
Albanians in Albania, Serbia, North Macedonia and in Turkey (İstanbul)
Albanians in North Macedonia and in Albania
Italian
3.5%
Ashkenazi Jewish
2.5%

MandM
02-26-2021, 05:26 PM
I got Brazil Rio sul somthing ��

CommonSense
02-26-2021, 05:49 PM
How many matches with South Asian ancestry do you have? Any of them 3rd to 5th cousins?

Jana
02-26-2021, 07:07 PM
Well I think most logical explanation might be that some of my Bosniak ancestors had fun with Gypsy women and thus some samples in this genetic group have south Slavic/Bosniak admixture rather than the contrary.
Gypsies were always present in Dubica and were citizens who worked as blacksmiths. Since neither I or my parents score south Asian I conclude that these Gypsies are likely part Bosniak.


How many matches with South Asian ancestry do you have? Any of them 3rd to 5th cousins?

I didn't see any so far, but I wasn't checking that toroughly though.

Jana
02-26-2021, 07:09 PM
Stears call me Gypsolina now :o

CommonSense
02-26-2021, 08:09 PM
Well I think most logical explanation might be that some of my Bosniak ancestors had fun with Gypsy women and thus some samples in this genetic group have south Slavic/Bosniak admixture rather than the contrary.
Gypsies were always present in Dubica and were citizens who worked as blacksmiths. Since neither I or my parents score south Asian I conclude that these Gypsies are likely part Bosniak.



I didn't see any so far, but I wasn't checking that toroughly though.

You can filter matches by ethnicity.

Jana
02-26-2021, 08:59 PM
You can filter matches by ethnicity.

I get 11 DNA matches with south Asian ancesty (3rd to distant cousin). What does that mean?

Ion Basescul
02-26-2021, 09:05 PM
I get 11 DNA matches with south Asian ancesty (3rd to distant cousin). What does that mean?

Check on which segments you match and if there's an overlap when you compare with multiple people at once. If this triangulation is successful then it would mean that you all share one ancestor. It doesn't mean that the ancestor is the source for Gypsy though, unless you can prove that that segment is associated with South Asian admixture.

CommonSense
02-26-2021, 09:13 PM
I get 11 DNA matches with south Asian ancesty (3rd to distant cousin). What does that mean?

That's hardly any. I guess they assigned you the genetic group by error or due to some common Balkan ancestry those Gypsies in Bosnia share with you.

Jana
02-26-2021, 09:13 PM
Check on which segments you match and if there's an overlap when you compare with multiple people at once. If this triangulation is successful then it would mean that you all share one ancestor. It doesn't mean that the ancestor is the source for Gypsy though, unless you can prove that that segment is associated with South Asian admixture.

I don't know how to do that, but as I say I score 0% Indian/South Asian everywhere as well on MyHeritage. None of my parents score it either, so it's pretty clear those Gypsies have south Slav admixture.

Kamilla13
02-26-2021, 09:36 PM
I would not take those additional genetic groups seriously if I were you.
I mean...I got Venezuela as AGG :rolleyes:

RatCat
02-26-2021, 09:48 PM
I get Romania and Greece as a additional genetic group lol. It's a mistake most likely.

Mortimer
02-27-2021, 04:35 AM
No, neither does my mother.

Your genetic group is wrongly assigned I guess, but it is at low confidence, look at high confidence. At high confidence I have "roma from vojvodina, hungary and romania" and strictest highest confidence. You dont.

Mortimer
02-27-2021, 05:13 AM
https://i.ibb.co/4JHC3y8/Genetische-Gruppen-Balkan.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Jon96
02-27-2021, 05:20 AM
https://i.ibb.co/4JHC3y8/Genetische-Gruppen-Balkan.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Hey Mortimer, how do I do this? What app is this?

Mortimer
02-27-2021, 05:21 AM
Hey Mortimer, how do I do this? What app is this?

Myheritage https://www.myheritage.at/site-286483351/plemic-family-site-23andme?utm_source=ppc_google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=mh_search_at_de_des_web_exact_myherit age&utm_content=199712981640&utm_term=myheritage&tr_camp_id=851648590&tr_ad_group=myheritage&tr_ag_id=44939577002&tr_placement=&tr_device=c&tr_account=882-490-0610&tr_size=

Nurzat
02-27-2021, 05:41 AM
they count Western Ukraine as Balkan - I was assigned genetic group called Western Ukraine, Moldova and Northeastern Romania. this inflated my Balkan to 60%,Eastern Euro down to 30%, rest is Scandinavian, Ashkenazi and South Asian.

to related groups this group gets the one called Slovakia (Prešov and Košice), Poland (Podkarpackie), Ukraine (Lviv), Austria, Hungary and Czechia, I don't know if that is included to the Balkan as well.