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Flashball
03-12-2021, 10:51 AM
He does not know his father (he has his mother's last name), but from what his mother said: he could be a native from North of France (therefore a French), his mother has origins from Picardy (North of France), Béarn ("Basque-like" part of South-West France: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A9arn), Hainaut (Picardy part of Belgium: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hainaut_Province) and Sarthe (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarthe)

Haplogroupe : R-BY1701 and H105a (maternal haplogroup >>> Béarn maternal great-grandmother)

23andme (i think the "spanish" percentage here come from his bearn side, kind of franco-basque; from what he told me they would be intermediaries between Basque and French, not pure Basque):
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2021/10/5/1615548999-w0hdc6fr.jpg
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2021/10/5/1615549009-7lyxw0ax.jpg


Gedmatch results (V5, but V3 soon)

1 North_Atlantic 47.38
2 West_Med 23.99
3 Baltic 15.95
4 East_Med 7.55
5 Red_Sea 2.78
6 South_Asian 0.92
7 Oceanian 0.91
8 West_Asian 0.52

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 French 7.54
2 Southwest_French 8
3 Spanish_Cantabria 8.4
4 Spanish_Cataluna 8.47
5 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 9.17
6 Spanish_Galicia 9.91
7 Spanish_Aragon 10
8 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 10.26
9 Spanish_Valencia 10.61
10 Portuguese 10.67
11 South_Dutch 10.87
12 Spanish_Murcia 11.04
13 Spanish_Extremadura 11.86
14 Southwest_English 12.03
15 West_German 12.26
16 Southeast_English 12.41
17 Spanish_Andalucia 12.79
18 Orcadian 14.62
19 West_Scottish 15.09
20 French_Basque 15.27

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.9% Spanish_Aragon + 45.1% Southwest_English @ 2.88
2 59.7% Spanish_Cantabria + 40.3% Southwest_English @ 2.94
3 65.9% Spanish_Aragon + 34.1% Norwegian @ 3.03
4 60% Spanish_Aragon + 40% Orcadian @ 3.05
5 61.2% Southwest_French + 38.8% Southwest_English @ 3.12
6 65.4% Spanish_Cantabria + 34.6% West_Scottish @ 3.12
7 55.8% Spanish_Aragon + 44.2% Southeast_English @ 3.15
8 67.8% Spanish_Aragon + 32.2% Swedish @ 3.15
9 60.9% Spanish_Aragon + 39.1% West_Scottish @ 3.18
10 62.9% Spanish_Aragon + 37.1% North_Dutch @ 3.19
11 61.4% Spanish_Aragon + 38.6% Irish @ 3.25
12 66.9% Southwest_French + 33.1% West_Scottish @ 3.26
13 60.8% Spanish_Cantabria + 39.2% Southeast_English @ 3.31
14 64.9% Spanish_Cantabria + 35.1% Orcadian @ 3.34
15 62.2% Southwest_French + 37.8% Southeast_English @ 3.36
16 63.6% Spanish_Aragon + 36.4% Danish @ 3.38
17 66.1% Spanish_Cantabria + 33.9% Irish @ 3.42
18 66.5% Southwest_French + 33.5% Orcadian @ 3.57
19 67.6% Southwest_French + 32.4% Irish @ 3.58
20 70.8% Spanish_Cantabria + 29.2% Norwegian @ 3.67

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_English +50% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.417552


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_English +25% Spanish_Aragon +25% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.417552


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++
1 French_Basque + North_Swedish + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.062119
2 French + French_Basque + Spanish_Aragon + Swedish @ 3.069512
3 French_Basque + North_Swedish + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.156298
4 French + French_Basque + Norwegian + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.214273
5 French + French_Basque + Southeast_English + Southwest_French @ 3.236362
6 French + French_Basque + Southeast_English + Spanish_Galicia @ 3.246606
7 French + French_Basque + Southeast_English + Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.262996
8 French + French_Basque + Southeast_English + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.266667
9 French_Basque + North_Swedish + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.270608
10 French + French_Basque + Orcadian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.279502
11 French_Basque + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Swedish @ 3.281378
12 French + French_Basque + North_Dutch + Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.283484
13 French + French_Basque + Orcadian + Spanish_Galicia @ 3.289010
14 French + French_Basque + North_Dutch + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.293594
15 Danish + French + French_Basque + Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.295177
16 Danish + French + French_Basque + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.304563
17 French + French_Basque + Southwest_English + Spanish_Galicia @ 3.318936
18 French_Basque + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Cataluna + Swedish @ 3.319821
19 French_Basque + Spanish_Cantabria + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Swedish @ 3.325228
20 French_Basque + North_Swedish + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.329747



K15:

1 Atlantic 34.5
2 North_Sea 27.74
3 West_Med 18.42
4 Baltic 7.48
5 Eastern_Euro 3.54
6 Red_Sea 3.01
7 East_Med 2.3
8 West_Asian 2.27
9 Oceanian 0.74

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 French 9.18
2 Spanish_Cataluna 9.5
3 Spanish_Cantabria 9.53
4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 10.06
5 Southwest_French 10.14
6 Spanish_Aragon 11.14
7 South_Dutch 11.21
8 Spanish_Galicia 11.44
9 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 11.47
10 Southwest_English 11.48
11 Portuguese 11.6
12 Spanish_Murcia 11.75
13 Spanish_Extremadura 11.98
14 Spanish_Valencia 12.04
15 Southeast_English 12.84
16 Spanish_Andalucia 14.03
17 Irish 14.33
18 French_Basque 14.89
19 West_Scottish 15
20 West_German 15.22

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57% Southwest_English + 43% French_Basque @ 3.55
2 50.6% French_Basque + 49.4% West_German @ 3.98
3 58.5% French_Basque + 41.5% West_Norwegian @ 4.1
4 52.6% French_Basque + 47.4% North_Dutch @ 4.18
5 59.7% Spanish_Aragon + 40.3% Orcadian @ 4.19
6 57.6% French_Basque + 42.4% Norwegian @ 4.3
7 50.9% Spanish_Aragon + 49.1% Southwest_English @ 4.3
8 61.7% Spanish_Cantabria + 38.3% Irish @ 4.32
9 54.1% Southeast_English + 45.9% French_Basque @ 4.36
10 62.9% Spanish_Cantabria + 37.1% West_Scottish @ 4.37
11 62.5% Southwest_French + 37.5% Orcadian @ 4.37
12 51.7% French_Basque + 48.3% Orcadian @ 4.39
13 57.1% Spanish_Aragon + 42.9% Irish @ 4.4
14 64.3% Spanish_Cantabria + 35.7% Orcadian @ 4.41
15 59.1% French_Basque + 40.9% Swedish @ 4.41
16 58.4% Spanish_Aragon + 41.6% West_Scottish @ 4.41
17 54.2% Spanish_Aragon + 45.8% Southeast_English @ 4.65
18 55.8% Spanish_Cantabria + 44.2% Southwest_English @ 4.65
19 59% Spanish_Cantabria + 41% Southeast_English @ 4.66
20 64.2% French + 35.8% French_Basque @ 4.67

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% French_Basque +50% Southwest_English @ 4.434288


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% French_Basque +25% Orcadian +25% West_German @ 3.701725


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++
1 French_Basque + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.404624
2 French_Basque + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.500742
3 French_Basque + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.538248
4 French_Basque + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.581232
5 French_Basque + Irish + Southwest_English + Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.596514
6 French + French_Basque + French_Basque + West_Norwegian @ 3.607354
7 French_Basque + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.626743
8 French_Basque + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.678030
9 French_Basque + French_Basque + Orcadian + West_German @ 3.701725
10 French_Basque + Southwest_English + Spanish_Cantabria + West_Scottish @ 3.703895
11 French_Basque + Irish + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.751585
12 French_Basque + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.754333
13 French_Basque + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_French @ 3.780120
14 French_Basque + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.807081
15 French_Basque + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_French @ 3.810658
16 French_Basque + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon + West_Scottish @ 3.815160
17 French_Basque + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.818142
18 French + French_Basque + Orcadian + Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.837952
19 French_Basque + North_Dutch + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.865649
20 French_Basque + French_Basque + Southwest_English + West_German @ 3.909158


https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2021/10/5/1615549484-e0hc-4gu.jpg

Global 25 results soon.

Flashball
03-12-2021, 10:52 AM
1 Atlantic_Med 47.38
2 North_European 33.64
3 Caucasus 8.1
4 Gedrosia 6.71
5 Southwest_Asian 3.3
6 Northwest_African 0.6
7 South_Asian 0.27

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 French (HGDP) 4.07
2 French (Dodecad) 4.65
3 Cataluna (1000Genomes) 9.13
4 Galicia (1000Genomes) 10.95
5 Spaniards (Behar) 11.55
6 Cornwall (1000Genomes) 11.81
7 Cantabria (1000Genomes) 11.89
8 Spanish (Dodecad) 11.92
9 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 12.03
10 Baleares (1000Genomes) 12.15
11 Kent (1000Genomes) 12.29
12 Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) 12.32
13 Portuguese (Dodecad) 12.52
14 British (Dodecad) 12.6
15 English (Dodecad) 13.11
16 Valencia (1000Genomes) 13.22
17 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 13.22
18 Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) 13.54
19 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 13.62
20 British_Isles (Dodecad) 13.67

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.1% French (HGDP) + 24.9% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 1.11
2 78% French (HGDP) + 22% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 1.2
3 77.8% French (HGDP) + 22.2% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) @ 1.38
4 70.2% French (HGDP) + 29.8% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 1.4
5 77.5% French (HGDP) + 22.5% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 1.43
6 90.1% French (Dodecad) + 9.9% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 1.49
7 75.2% French (HGDP) + 24.8% Spaniards (Behar) @ 1.54
8 75.8% French (HGDP) + 24.2% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 1.54
9 91.4% French (HGDP) + 8.6% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 1.58
10 73.8% Dutch (Dodecad) + 26.2% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 1.61
11 69.4% Spaniards (Behar) + 30.6% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.62
12 74.3% Cataluna (1000Genomes) + 25.7% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.64
13 67.2% Spaniards (Behar) + 32.8% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 1.81
14 77.1% French (HGDP) + 22.9% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 1.86
15 52% Pais_Vasco (1000Genomes) + 48% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.87
16 89.2% French (HGDP) + 10.8% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 1.93
17 54.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 45.3% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 1.98
18 85.2% Cataluna (1000Genomes) + 14.8% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 1.99
19 55.4% Spaniards (Behar) + 44.6% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.99
20 86.4% French (HGDP) + 13.6% Pais_Vasco (1000Genomes) @ 2

Flashball
03-13-2021, 03:53 AM
My friend is close to my father on the PCA, except he's a little bit more Basque shifted.

The non-scientific stupidities on the diversity of the French attract more than my threads showing homogeneity.

It is unfortunate.

Flashball
03-14-2021, 12:28 PM
Global 25

Distance: 6,1044% / 0,06104397
52,0 TUR_Barcin_N
33,0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
15,0 WHG

Distance: 1.9797% / 0.01979709 | R4P | ADC: 1x RC
32.8 French_Nord
25.6 Basque_French
21.2 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
20.4 French_Occitanie

Distance: 2.1076% / 0.02107573 | R3P | ADC: 1x RC
52.8 Spanish_Navarra
30.0 Irish
17.2 Spanish_Galicia

Distance: 2.0854% / 0.02085421 | R2P | ADC: 1x RC
67.8 Basque_French
32.2 Dutch

Distance: 1.9683% / 0.01968254 | ADC: 1x RC
30.6 French_Nord
23.8 Basque_French
18.0 French_Occitanie
16.4 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
11.2 French_South

Distance: 1.8764% / 0.01876412 | ADC: 0.5x RC
22.8 Basque_French
15.4 French_Nord
15.0 French_Occitanie
14.0 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
13.0 Belgian
11.6 French_South
8.2 Spanish_Galicia

Distance: 1.8112% / 0.01811214 | ADC: 0.25x RC
29.4 Basque_French
15.4 Irish
15.4 Spanish_Navarra
11.4 French_Nord
10.2 Spanish_Galicia
10.0 French_South
4.6 French_Occitanie
3.4 German
0.2 Belgian

Distance: 1.8064% / 0.01806359
30.8 Basque_French
14.4 Irish
10.4 French_Nord
9.4 Spanish_Navarra
8.6 Spanish_Galicia
5.6 French_South
5.4 German
5.0 French_Occitanie
3.8 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
3.4 Dutch
2.8 Sardinian
0.4 Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh

Distance: 1.9145% / 0.01914512 | R6P | ADC: 0.5x RC
49.2 HUN_MA_Szolad
24.0 ITA_Sardinia_EBA
22.4 Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
4.4 FRA_Occitanie_IA2

Distance: 1.8824% / 0.01882395 | R5P | ADC: 0.5x RC
50.8 VK2020_SWE_Skara_VA
20.2 ITA_Sardinia_EBA
18.6 Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
10.0 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
0.4 FRA_Occitanie_EMBA

Distance: 1.9145% / 0.01914512 | R4P | ADC: 0.5x RC
49.2 HUN_MA_Szolad
24.0 ITA_Sardinia_EBA
22.4 Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
4.4 FRA_Occitanie_IA2

Distance: 1.9365% / 0.01936525 | R3P | ADC: 0.5x RC
51.8 HUN_MA_Szolad
25.6 ITA_Sardinia_EBA
22.6 Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES

Distance: 2.0696% / 0.02069559 | R2P | ADC: 0.5x RC
68.4 HUN_MA_Szolad
31.6 ITA_Sardinia_EBA

Distance: 2.1367% / 0.02136683 | ADC: 0.5x RC
32.8 VK2020_SWE_Oland_VA
21.4 CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
19.2 Iberia_East_IA
18.2 Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
8.4 FRA_Occitanie_IA2

Distance: 1.7973% / 0.01797331 | ADC: 0.25x RC
34.4 VK2020_SWE_Skara_VA
17.2 VK2020_NOR_Mid_MA
16.0 ITA_Sardinia_EBA
13.4 Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
7.0 Iberia_East_IA
6.0 FRA_Occitanie_IA2
5.0 VK2020_SWE_Oland_VA
1.0 ITA_Sardinia_Nuragic

Distance: 1.6427% / 0.01642718
21.0 ITA_Sardinia_EBA
18.4 VK2020_SWE_Skara_VA
16.6 VK2020_NOR_Mid_MA
14.8 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
6.6 Iberia_N
4.8 HUN_MA_Szolad
4.6 Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
3.8 Scotland_N
3.6 FRA_Occitanie_IA2
3.0 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
1.2 Levant_Megiddo_MLBA
0.8 IND_Roopkund_A
0.4 VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA
0.2 FRA_Occitanie_EMBA
0.2 MAR_Taforalt


0.02940220 French_South:SouthFrench1323
0.03046595 French_Occitanie:T_97
0.03069735 French_Occitanie:T_72
0.03225655 French_Occitanie:T_57
0.03287611 Spanish_Navarra:Navarra3
0.03305675 Basque_French:HGDP01365
0.03317360 Spanish_Pais_Vasco:HG01516
0.03320919 Spanish_Valencia:HG01606
0.03363249 Basque_French:HGDP01364
0.03408222 French_Occitanie:T_18
0.03409668 Basque_French:HGDP01358
0.03476140 French_Occitanie:T_90
0.03487382 French_Occitanie:T_127
0.03495591 French_South:SouthFrench3326
0.03512514 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:COD068
0.03520515 French_Occitanie:T_7
0.03527600 French_Auvergne:C_35
0.03540135 Basque_French:HGDP01359
0.03547184 Spanish_Pais_Vasco:HG01518
0.03551987 Spanish_Penedes:FER023
0.03564679 Basque_French:HGDP01362
0.03597552 French_Nord:N_46
0.03598219 French_Occitanie:T_4
0.03631746 French_Occitanie:T_80
0.03632650 Spanish_Girona:VID016

Flashball
03-14-2021, 01:11 PM
His Myheritage results
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2021/10/7/1615727411-altwh7k4.jpg

RyoHazuki
03-15-2021, 05:19 AM
He sits at a similar y-coordinate to me, but is far more western shifted which pulls him further from Germans and closer to Iberians, I think?-

Flashball
03-15-2021, 09:52 AM
He sits at a similar y-coordinate to me, but is far more western shifted which pulls him further from Germans and closer to Iberians, I think?-

He is not of German descent, so I don't see why he should be shifted toward Germans...

Not "iberians", but Basques. he's shifted towards the Basques because of Béarn contribution, who form a Basque-French mixture (mixture of French and Basque, not purely basque).

On a PCA, there not just the Spaniards. It seems that if we don't clust with Norwegians, we are necessarily in the Spanish cluster or we "shifted" towards the Spaniards, but no it does not work that way. This is a view that a lot of people have of Apricity, an incorrect view.

He is at 25% Béarn, so it is consistent that he is shifted towards Basques and not the Spaniards (on the PCA, we can clearly see that he is shifted toward Basques, not the Spaniards), but he remains close to the Picards (North of France) and other French people.

You can see that he is closer to other French people (including my father) than to the Spaniards, on the PCA (my father in black and him in red):
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2021/11/1/1615801758-frienddddd.png


My father: x-axis 266; y-axis 188
Him : x-axis 208; y-axis 188

Jana
03-15-2021, 01:58 PM
French average on Eurogenes is pretty good, this person is proof. I saw other French who are mixes of north and south French who get "French" as their top pick.
So I disagree with those who claimed it's too southern shifted. Don't think so at all.

Flashball
03-16-2021, 08:18 AM
French average on Eurogenes is pretty good, this person is proof. I saw other French who are mixes of north and south French who get "French" as their top pick.
So I disagree with those who claimed it's too southern shifted. Don't think so at all.

Even the Picardy (non-Flemish) of the north of France are closer to the French of the Center (and even a little lower like the Ardèche and the Loire) than to the Europeans of the North-West (English and others). So, yeah.

J.S.
03-16-2021, 08:19 PM
French average on Eurogenes is pretty good, this person is proof. I saw other French who are mixes of north and south French who get "French" as their top pick.
So I disagree with those who claimed it's too southern shifted. Don't think so at all.

I am the guy who has been tested. The 23andMe and G25 results match perfectly my known genealogy and what I have learned since. Actually, even the ethnic composition from My heritage show "French" up as the best genetic cluster.
My Heritage found two first cousins once removed with respectively 224cM and 335 cM segment DNA shared and 52 cM as the longer one. Since the tree of the two cousins ​​is very well documented, i was able to track down the person who is probably my biological father after searching for him for decades.
It's just a miracle.

Jana
03-16-2021, 08:34 PM
I am the guy who has been tested. The 23andMe and G25 results match perfectly my known genealogy and what I have learned since. Actually, even the ethnic composition from My heritage show "French" up as the best genetic cluster.
My Heritage found two first cousins once removed with respectively 224cM and 335 cM segment DNA shared and 52 cM as the longer one. Since the tree of the two cousins ​​is very well documented, i was able to track down the person who is probably my biological father after searching for him for decades.
It's just a miracle.

Amazing. Welcome to the forum!

Flashball
03-20-2021, 09:59 AM
I am the guy who has been tested. The 23andMe and G25 results match perfectly my known genealogy and what I have learned since. Actually, even the ethnic composition from My heritage show "French" up as the best genetic cluster.
My Heritage found two first cousins once removed with respectively 224cM and 335 cM segment DNA shared and 52 cM as the longer one. Since the tree of the two cousins ​​is very well documented, i was able to track down the person who is probably my biological father after searching for him for decades.
It's just a miracle.

I forgot to specify that you were of Normando-Picardo-Provençal origin on the paternal side, I simplified with the data I had available.

Many people on Apricity (I'm not saying all) deny the existence of the native French cluster, and think that in the North you are a kind of "English-like" and that in the South, a kind of Spanish! That is to say that for them, a French from the North cannot be closer to a French from the center than to an Englishman.

You can read the comment of the person who said that you had a proximity with the Spaniards, while this is not the case since we see that your Béarn input pulls you towards the Basques (but not totally towards the Basques), but not towards the Spaniards.

J.S.
03-20-2021, 05:20 PM
I am the first amazed to get so French components in all the analyses. 23andMe detect no matches in South Europe despite being 30% Iberian. MH give me 54,6% Iberian but, actually, the Iberian clusters turn out to be from Southern France.

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Flashball
03-20-2021, 07:12 PM
I am the first amazed to get so French components in all the analyses. 23andMe detect no matches in South Europe despite being 30% Iberian. MH give me 54,6% Iberian but, actually, the Iberian clusters turn out to be from Southern France.


Good!

gixajo
03-20-2021, 07:29 PM
I am the first amazed to get so French components in all the analyses. 23andMe detect no matches in South Europe despite being 30% Iberian. MH give me 54,6% Iberian but, actually, the Iberian clusters turn out to be from Southern France.

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Nice results, congratulations.

Next step : get your G25 coordinates.

Sometimes I get the impression when reading your conversation, (J.S. & Flashball) that you are the same person.

Flashball
03-20-2021, 07:44 PM
Nice results, congratulations.

Next step : get your G25 coordinates.

Sometimes I get the impression when reading your conversation, (J.S. & Flashball) that you are the same person.

We don't have the same IP, so no.

J.S.
03-20-2021, 08:32 PM
Nice results, congratulations.

Next step : get your G25 coordinates.

Sometimes I get the impression when reading your conversation, (J.S. & Flashball) that you are the same person.

It's just because we have almost the same point of view on some topics which are discussed here and we follow each other on twitter. I asked him to help me to run the eurogenes analysis. He was the one who send my 23andMe raw data to Dave in order to get my G25 coordinates.

J.S.
03-20-2021, 08:40 PM
Flashball is over the moon with my results. He sees me as the ultimate proof of the French genetic homogeneity.

Flashball
03-20-2021, 08:58 PM
Flashball is over the moon with my results. He sees me as the ultimate proof of the French genetic homogeneity.

Yeah, that's my man.

J.S.
05-13-2021, 04:07 PM
Here is the genetic group i belong, based on the 23andMe raw datas i uploaded on MyHeritage website: High level confidence

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Then, i got tested by MyHeritage; i stil belong to the French genetic group, but check the confidence level... low level confidence

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What is going on here???

J.S.
05-13-2021, 04:52 PM
Nice results, congratulations.

Next step : get your G25 coordinates.

Sometimes I get the impression when reading your conversation, (J.S. & Flashball) that you are the same person.

I have just seen your reply. You know what's the funniest thing? He paid 12 bucks to Dave to get my G25...

J.S.
05-13-2021, 04:52 PM
delete

J.S.
06-18-2021, 06:32 AM
23andMe
https://i.imgur.com/yzeZpug.png

MyHeritage
https://i.imgur.com/ge3bB1R.png

K13
North_Atlantic 47.65 Pct
Baltic 14.76 Pct
West_Med 24.31 Pct
West_Asian 0.05 Pct
East_Med 9.17 Pct
Red_Sea 1.92 Pct
South_Asian 1.02 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.15 Pct
Oceanian 0.97 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southwest_French @ 8.497539
2 Spanish_Cataluna @ 8.650513
3 Spanish_Cantabria @ 8.693040
4 French @ 9.105807
5 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 9.448913
6 Spanish_Aragon @ 9.904100
7 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 10.561161
8 Spanish_Galicia @ 10.783201
9 Spanish_Valencia @ 10.796503
10 Spanish_Murcia @ 11.370930
11 Portuguese @ 11.408300
12 Spanish_Extremadura @ 12.694197
13 South_Dutch @ 13.377719
14 Spanish_Andalucia @ 13.454626
15 West_German @ 14.779368
16 Southwest_English @ 14.970270
17 Southeast_English @ 15.069941
18 French_Basque @ 16.563625
19 Orcadian @ 17.764181
20 West_Scottish @ 18.333445

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southeast_English +50% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.069147


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Spanish_Aragon +25% Spanish_Aragon +25% Swedish @ 3.730963


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 French + French_Basque + Southeast_English + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.350345
2 French_Basque + Norwegian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.369340
3 French_Basque + Norwegian + Spanish_Valencia + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.419393
4 French + French_Basque + Southeast_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.430091
5 French_Basque + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Valencia + Swedish @ 3.446371
6 French_Basque + Norwegian + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.474233
7 Danish + French_Basque + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.506397
8 French + French_Basque + Southeast_English + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.506806
9 French_Basque + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Swedish @ 3.519153
10 French_Basque + Norwegian + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.541482
11 French_Basque + Spanish_Valencia + Spanish_Valencia + Swedish @ 3.544179
12 French_Basque + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Valencia + Swedish @ 3.545241
13 French_Basque + North_Swedish + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.549737
14 French + French_Basque + Southwest_English + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.554276
15 French_Basque + North_Dutch + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.561319
16 French_Basque + Norwegian + Portuguese + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.563923
17 French_Basque + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Cataluna + Swedish @ 3.565606
18 French_Basque + Norwegian + Portuguese + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.566092
19 French_Basque + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Murcia + Swedish @ 3.568806
20 French + French_Basque + Southeast_English + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.575908


K15-V2

Admix Results (sorted):
1 Atlantic 35.84
2 North_Sea 26.23
3 West_Med 18.56
4 Baltic 8.45
5 East_Med 4.35
6 Red_Sea 2.28
7 Eastern_Euro 1.85
8 West_Asian 1.47

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Spanish_Cantabria @ 10.110973
2 Spanish_Cataluna @ 10.150752
3 Southwest_French @ 10.405893
4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 10.434017
5 Spanish_Aragon @ 11.128162
6 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 11.931475
7 French @ 12.078984
8 Spanish_Valencia @ 12.307775
9 Spanish_Murcia @ 12.442098
10 Portuguese @ 13.016518
11 Spanish_Extremadura @ 13.167704
12 Spanish_Galicia @ 13.360974
13 South_Dutch @ 14.578437
14 Spanish_Andalucia @ 14.791885
15 Southwest_English @ 15.391478
16 French_Basque @ 15.553416
17 Southeast_English @ 16.543215
18 Irish @ 18.092207
19 West_Scottish @ 19.028488
20 West_German @ 19.310646

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% French_Basque +50% West_German @ 4.883993


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% French_Basque +25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% West_Norwegian @ 4.058142


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 French_Basque + French_Basque + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Norwegian @ 4.058142
2 French_Basque + French_Basque + Spanish_Galicia + West_Norwegian @ 4.183678
3 French + French_Basque + French_Basque + North_Dutch @ 4.253881
4 French_Basque + French_Basque + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Norwegian @ 4.301652
5 French_Basque + French_Basque + Portuguese + West_Norwegian @ 4.303956
6 French + French_Basque + French_Basque + Orcadian @ 4.340032
7 French_Basque + French_Basque + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Swedish @ 4.345073
8 French + French_Basque + French_Basque + Irish @ 4.362504
9 French + French_Basque + Irish + Spanish_Aragon @ 4.371209
10 French_Basque + Orcadian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.381137
11 French_Basque + French_Basque + Southwest_English + West_German @ 4.397813
12 French_Basque + Orcadian + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.403173
13 French_Basque + French_Basque + North_Dutch + Spanish_Galicia @ 4.406942
14 French_Basque + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 4.415465
15 French_Basque + French_Basque + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish @ 4.418526
16 French_Basque + Orcadian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.426093
17 French + French_Basque + French_Basque + West_Norwegian @ 4.452088
18 French_Basque + Orcadian + Spanish_Cantabria + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.457318
19 French_Basque + French_Basque + Orcadian + Spanish_Galicia @ 4.459293
20 French_Basque + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Norwegian @ 4.463766