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Grace O'Malley
03-13-2021, 08:05 AM
Just looking at K13 because of this thread by Dunai.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?343711-Ethnic-and-national-K13-averages-of-Europeans

I looked at all the Irish regions and compared them. I also looked at my results which are a bit different than the Irish average.

First these are Irish regions leaving all populations in.


Target: Irish
Distance: 0.0378% / 0.03779010
29.0 Irish_Munster
22.1 Irish_Ulster
20.0 Irish_Connacht
19.2 Irish_Leinster
6.0 West_Scottish
1.9 Denmark
0.8 English_Southwest
0.6 French_Basque
0.4 Dargin


Distance to: Irish
0.44440972 Irish_Munster
0.91274312 Irish_Connacht
0.99282425 Irish_Leinster
1.01429779 Irish_Ulster
1.37255237 Scottish
1.66496246 West_Scottish
2.69542204 Welsh
3.02727600 Orcadian
3.18713037 English_North
3.89059121 English
3.94504753 English_Southwest
4.36315253 English_Midlands
4.61729358 English_Southeast
4.69804215 Icelandic
5.14632879 Dutch_Central
5.29907539 Dutch
5.31892846 Dutch_North
5.97585140 France_north-west
6.61496788 Norwegian
6.81617195 Denmark
7.26441326 Norway_South_Central
7.54422296 Sweden_Götaland
7.82382260 North_German
8.82109970 Flemish
9.15525532 Sweden_Svealand_West


Target: Irish_Connacht
Distance: 0.0400% / 0.03997382
96.2 Irish_Connacht
1.8 Irish_Ulster
1.6 West_Scottish
0.2 Norwegian
0.1 Dargin
0.1 Norway_South_Central


Distance to: Irish_Connacht
0.91274312 Irish
0.97241966 Irish_Munster
1.34301899 Irish_Ulster
1.70792271 Irish_Leinster
1.80333025 Scottish
1.96443376 West_Scottish
3.28172211 Orcadian
3.34666999 Welsh
3.66637423 English_North
4.25345742 Icelandic
4.45290916 English
4.61713114 English_Southwest
4.93380178 English_Midlands
5.17384770 English_Southeast
5.23634414 Dutch_North
5.31913527 Dutch_Central
5.55237787 Dutch
6.17017828 Norwegian
6.44424550 Denmark
6.68240226 France_north-west
6.85351005 Norway_South_Central
7.15361447 Sweden_Götaland
7.70688653 North_German
8.76264800 Sweden_Svealand_West
9.36318856 Flemish


Target: Irish_Leinster
Distance: 0.0949% / 0.09493998
74.0 Irish_Leinster
14.4 Irish_Munster
5.1 West_Scottish
3.2 Norwegian
1.6 Norway_South_Central
1.2 French_Basque
0.3 Dargin
0.1 Georgian_imereti
0.1 Saudi


Distance to: Irish_Leinster
0.90774446 Scottish
0.99282425 Irish
1.29537639 Irish_Munster
1.70792271 Irish_Connacht
1.80471604 Welsh
1.89259082 Irish_Ulster
1.93664659 West_Scottish
2.32351028 English_North
2.54760672 Orcadian
2.98177799 English
3.08102256 English_Southwest
3.44270243 English_Midlands
3.70149970 English_Southeast
4.45068534 Dutch_Central
4.51768746 Dutch
4.60361814 Icelandic
4.84597771 Dutch_North
5.12221632 France_north-west
6.48101072 Norwegian
6.58801184 Denmark
7.09716845 Norway_South_Central
7.24159513 North_German
7.34194797 Sweden_Götaland
7.90566253 Flemish
8.93115894 Sweden_Svealand_West


Target: Irish_Munster
Distance: 0.0165% / 0.01646737
97.9 Irish_Munster
1.7 Irish_Connacht
0.2 Icelandic
0.1 French_Basque
0.1 West_Scottish


Distance to: Irish_Munster
0.44440972 Irish
0.90194235 Irish_Ulster
0.97241966 Irish_Connacht
1.29537639 Irish_Leinster
1.52597510 West_Scottish
1.54266004 Scottish
2.96179000 Welsh
3.17022081 Orcadian
3.43396273 English_North
4.13581914 English
4.16352015 English_Southwest
4.60208648 English_Midlands
4.83848117 Icelandic
4.88175173 English_Southeast
5.35891780 Dutch_Central
5.47221162 Dutch_North
5.53932306 Dutch
6.23059387 France_north-west
6.72475278 Norwegian
6.95056113 Denmark
7.37807563 Norway_South_Central
7.67343469 Sweden_Götaland
8.09458461 North_German
9.06888637 Flemish
9.29996774 Sweden_Svealand_West


Target: Irish_Ulster
Distance: 0.0000% / 0.00000000
100.0 Irish_Ulster


Distance to: Irish_Ulster
0.90194235 Irish_Munster
1.01429779 Irish
1.34301899 Irish_Connacht
1.89259082 Irish_Leinster
1.90365438 West_Scottish
2.31531855 Scottish
3.49220561 Welsh
3.78642311 Orcadian
4.07693512 English_North
4.66748326 English_Southwest
4.74304754 English
5.21374146 English_Midlands
5.37802938 Icelandic
5.46770519 English_Southeast
6.03434338 Dutch_Central
6.16893832 Dutch_North
6.21274496 Dutch
6.61168662 France_north-west
7.27716978 Norwegian
7.53217100 Denmark
7.92659448 Norway_South_Central
8.22173339 Sweden_Götaland
8.76038812 North_German
9.65540263 Flemish
9.83191233 Sweden_Svealand_West

Myself

Target: Grace
Distance: 1.5995% / 1.59948555
72.3 Icelandic
21.0 West_Scottish
5.0 Irish_Ulster
1.7 Dargin

Distance to: Grace
2.07639110 Icelandic
3.67318663 Scottish
3.70654826 Irish_Connacht
3.82745346 Norwegian
3.84933761 Dutch_North
4.10109741 Irish
4.10454626 West_Scottish
4.11882265 Irish_Leinster
4.15441933 Orcadian
4.20343907 Irish_Munster
4.45470538 Denmark
4.51352412 Dutch_Central
4.66038625 Irish_Ulster
4.67193750 English_North
4.68362039 Norway_South_Central
5.03362692 Dutch
5.03711227 Sweden_Götaland
5.04918805 Welsh
5.46866529 English
5.87728679 English_Midlands
5.93609299 North_German
6.00581385 English_Southeast
6.07132605 English_Southwest
6.61623004 Sweden_Svealand_West
7.66868959 Swedish

firemonkey
03-13-2021, 08:10 AM
How do I do that?

Grace O'Malley
03-13-2021, 08:19 AM
With Irish regions removed. Irish are obviously closest to Scottish populations.


Distance to: Irish
1.37255237 Scottish
1.66496246 West_Scottish
2.69542204 Welsh
3.02727600 Orcadian
3.18713037 English_North
3.89059121 English
3.94504753 English_Southwest
4.36315253 English_Midlands
4.61729358 English_Southeast
4.69804215 Icelandic
5.14632879 Dutch_Central
5.29907539 Dutch
5.31892846 Dutch_North
5.97585140 France_north-west
6.61496788 Norwegian
6.81617195 Denmark
7.26441326 Norway_South_Central
7.54422296 Sweden_Götaland
7.82382260 North_German
8.82109970 Flemish
9.15525532 Sweden_Svealand_West
9.97776027 Belgian
10.02400120 Swedish
10.21637411 German_West
10.24851209 Afrikaner


Target: Irish
Distance: 0.7732% / 0.77317882
95.9 West_Scottish
2.2 Dargin
1.7 French_Basque
0.1 Balochi
0.1 Punjabi_Jat


Distance to: Irish
0.92405897 2.20% Dargin + 97.80% West_Scottish
0.94228926 2.20% Avar + 97.80% West_Scottish
0.95094865 2.20% Lak + 97.80% West_Scottish
0.95392248 1.80% Balochi + 98.20% West_Scottish
0.96371464 1.60% Brahui + 98.40% West_Scottish
0.96756866 2.00% Ossetian + 98.00% West_Scottish
1.00177470 2.20% Tabassaran + 97.80% West_Scottish
1.00673051 2.00% Ingush + 98.00% West_Scottish
1.00924309 2.20% Chechen + 97.80% West_Scottish
1.00936665 2.00% North_Ossetian + 98.00% West_Scottish
1.02297230 2.00% Balkar + 98.00% West_Scottish
1.02502570 1.80% Georgian_imereti + 98.20% West_Scottish
1.02699963 1.60% Makrani + 98.40% West_Scottish
1.02862709 1.80% Abhkasian + 98.20% West_Scottish
1.03132239 2.00% Kabardin + 98.00% West_Scottish
1.03636579 1.80% Georgian + 98.20% West_Scottish
1.03756072 2.00% Adygei + 98.00% West_Scottish
1.04382941 2.00% Lezgin + 98.00% West_Scottish
1.04836713 1.80% Kalash + 98.20% West_Scottish
1.05223917 2.20% Pamiri_Tajikistan + 97.80% West_Scottish
1.06823295 2.00% Afghan_Pashtun + 98.00% West_Scottish
1.07552976 97.80% West_Scottish + 2.20% Yagnobi
1.10809330 2.00% Kumyk + 98.00% West_Scottish
1.10987902 2.00% Tajik_Lowland + 98.00% West_Scottish
1.12537547 61.00% Scottish + 39.00% West_Scottish


Distance to: Irish_Connacht
1.80333025 Scottish
1.96443376 West_Scottish
3.28172211 Orcadian
3.34666999 Welsh
3.66637423 English_North
4.25345742 Icelandic
4.45290916 English
4.61713114 English_Southwest
4.93380178 English_Midlands
5.17384770 English_Southeast
5.23634414 Dutch_North
5.31913527 Dutch_Central
5.55237787 Dutch
6.17017828 Norwegian
6.44424550 Denmark
6.68240226 France_north-west
6.85351005 Norway_South_Central
7.15361447 Sweden_Götaland
7.70688653 North_German
8.76264800 Sweden_Svealand_West
9.36318856 Flemish
9.71853384 Swedish
10.54737882 Belgian
10.63904131 German_West
10.70605903 Afrikaner


Target: Irish_Connacht
Distance: 1.2875% / 1.28750193
94.0 West_Scottish
3.8 Icelandic
1.2 Avar
1.0 Kalash


Distance to: Irish_Connacht
1.28354183 2.40% Dargin + 97.60% West_Scottish
1.31955062 2.40% Lak + 97.60% West_Scottish
1.32977572 2.40% Avar + 97.60% West_Scottish
1.35244216 2.00% Kalash + 98.00% West_Scottish
1.36580690 1.80% Balochi + 98.20% West_Scottish
1.36750169 2.40% Pamiri_Tajikistan + 97.60% West_Scottish
1.38439732 1.80% Brahui + 98.20% West_Scottish
1.41463725 2.20% Tabassaran + 97.80% West_Scottish
1.44386483 2.00% Afghan_Pashtun + 98.00% West_Scottish
1.45837645 97.80% West_Scottish + 2.20% Yagnobi
1.47225703 1.80% Burusho + 98.20% West_Scottish
1.47373024 2.20% Chechen + 97.80% West_Scottish
1.47662989 2.00% Lezgin + 98.00% West_Scottish
1.47757296 1.60% Makrani + 98.40% West_Scottish
1.48184218 1.80% Punjabi_Jat + 98.20% West_Scottish
1.49551924 1.80% Pathan + 98.20% West_Scottish
1.49990666 2.20% Tajik_Lowland + 97.80% West_Scottish
1.50087405 1.60% Sindhi + 98.40% West_Scottish
1.51792962 2.00% Ingush + 98.00% West_Scottish
1.52336465 1.80% North_Ossetian + 98.20% West_Scottish
1.53047921 1.80% Ossetian + 98.20% West_Scottish
1.53834128 2.00% Kabardin + 98.00% West_Scottish
1.54213488 2.20% Tajik_Mountain + 97.80% West_Scottish
1.55616879 1.80% Adygei + 98.20% West_Scottish
1.55952756 1.80% Balkar + 98.20% West_Scottish


Distance to: Irish_Leinster
0.90774446 Scottish
1.80471604 Welsh
1.93664659 West_Scottish
2.32351028 English_North
2.54760672 Orcadian
2.98177799 English
3.08102256 English_Southwest
3.44270243 English_Midlands
3.70149970 English_Southeast
4.45068534 Dutch_Central
4.51768746 Dutch
4.60361814 Icelandic
4.84597771 Dutch_North
5.12221632 France_north-west
6.48101072 Norwegian
6.58801184 Denmark
7.09716845 Norway_South_Central
7.24159513 North_German
7.34194797 Sweden_Götaland
7.90566253 Flemish
8.93115894 Sweden_Svealand_West
9.06399470 Belgian
9.32721823 German_West
9.41137078 Afrikaner
9.67734984 Swedish


Target: Irish_Leinster
Distance: 0.4550% / 0.45503765
54.6 West_Scottish
30.0 Scottish
9.4 Norwegian
4.0 French_Basque
2.0 Dargin


Distance to: Irish_Leinster
0.67063021 2.00% French_Basque + 98.00% Scottish
0.71985865 2.00% France_south-west + 98.00% Scottish
0.80431426 98.20% Scottish + 1.80% Southwest_French
0.80657419 79.40% Scottish + 20.60% Welsh
0.82141588 98.40% Scottish + 1.60% Spanish_Cantabria
0.83128681 2.20% Georgian_imereti + 97.80% West_Scottish
0.83555028 98.60% Scottish + 1.40% Spanish_Aragon
0.84121334 2.20% Abhkasian + 97.80% West_Scottish
0.84424100 2.40% Georgian + 97.60% West_Scottish
0.85011670 98.80% Scottish + 1.20% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.85042651 0.60% Italian_Sardinia + 99.40% Scottish
0.85355798 1.40% France_south + 98.60% Scottish
0.85815942 2.80% Balkar + 97.20% West_Scottish
0.86028332 98.80% Scottish + 1.20% Spanish
0.86304726 2.60% Ossetian + 97.40% West_Scottish
0.86367382 86.20% Scottish + 13.80% West_Scottish
0.86437254 99.00% Scottish + 1.00% Spanish_Andalucia
0.86658569 98.80% Scottish + 1.20% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.86678536 99.00% Scottish + 1.00% Spanish_Galicia
0.86787357 1.60% French + 98.40% Scottish
0.87044457 4.80% France_north-west + 95.20% Scottish
0.87182938 99.00% Scottish + 1.00% Spanish_Extremadura
0.87194638 2.60% Adygei + 97.40% West_Scottish
0.87290460 7.80% English_Southwest + 92.20% Scottish
0.87425382 99.00% Scottish + 1.00% Spanish_Cataluna


Distance to: Irish_Munster
1.52597510 West_Scottish
1.54266004 Scottish
2.96179000 Welsh
3.17022081 Orcadian
3.43396273 English_North
4.13581914 English
4.16352015 English_Southwest
4.60208648 English_Midlands
4.83848117 Icelandic
4.88175173 English_Southeast
5.35891780 Dutch_Central
5.47221162 Dutch_North
5.53932306 Dutch
6.23059387 France_north-west
6.72475278 Norwegian
6.95056113 Denmark
7.37807563 Norway_South_Central
7.67343469 Sweden_Götaland
8.09458461 North_German
9.06888637 Flemish
9.29996774 Sweden_Svealand_West
10.20773726 Swedish
10.22714036 Belgian
10.50866309 German_West
10.53336129 Afrikaner


Target: Irish_Munster
Distance: 0.9274% / 0.92738970
96.5 West_Scottish
1.9 Dargin
1.5 French_Basque
0.1 Balochi


Distance to: Irish_Munster
1.02294506 1.80% Dargin + 98.20% West_Scottish
1.03682578 1.80% Avar + 98.20% West_Scottish
1.04517881 1.40% Balochi + 98.60% West_Scottish
1.05070023 1.40% Brahui + 98.60% West_Scottish
1.05099124 1.80% Lak + 98.20% West_Scottish
1.06482543 1.60% Ossetian + 98.40% West_Scottish
1.08309998 1.80% Tabassaran + 98.20% West_Scottish
1.09045427 1.40% Georgian_imereti + 98.60% West_Scottish
1.09315392 1.60% Ingush + 98.40% West_Scottish
1.09873674 1.40% Abhkasian + 98.60% West_Scottish
1.09934090 1.40% Makrani + 98.60% West_Scottish
1.10459507 1.60% North_Ossetian + 98.40% West_Scottish
1.10664230 1.80% Chechen + 98.20% West_Scottish
1.10952528 1.40% Georgian + 98.60% West_Scottish
1.11630314 1.60% Lezgin + 98.40% West_Scottish
1.11853299 1.60% Balkar + 98.40% West_Scottish
1.12723939 1.60% Adygei + 98.40% West_Scottish
1.12976285 1.40% Kalash + 98.60% West_Scottish
1.13208745 1.60% Kabardin + 98.40% West_Scottish
1.13609781 1.80% Pamiri_Tajikistan + 98.20% West_Scottish
1.14166927 1.60% Afghan_Pashtun + 98.40% West_Scottish
1.15809700 49.40% Scottish + 50.60% West_Scottish
1.16622461 98.40% West_Scottish + 1.60% Yagnobi
1.18032084 1.60% Kumyk + 98.40% West_Scottish
1.18137274 1.60% Tajik_Lowland + 98.40% West_Scottish



Target: Irish_Ulster
Distance: 1.4353% / 1.43528360
96.5 West_Scottish
2.0 French_Basque
1.5 Balochi


Distance to: Irish_Ulster
1.90365438 West_Scottish
2.31531855 Scottish
3.49220561 Welsh
3.78642311 Orcadian
4.07693512 English_North
4.66748326 English_Southwest
4.74304754 English
5.21374146 English_Midlands
5.37802938 Icelandic
5.46770519 English_Southeast
6.03434338 Dutch_Central
6.16893832 Dutch_North
6.21274496 Dutch
6.61168662 France_north-west
7.27716978 Norwegian
7.53217100 Denmark
7.92659448 Norway_South_Central
8.22173339 Sweden_Götaland
8.76038812 North_German
9.65540263 Flemish
9.83191233 Sweden_Svealand_West
10.76843536 Swedish
10.77990260 Belgian
11.03771716 Afrikaner
11.09204670 German_West

Distance to: Irish_Ulster
1.55267380 1.40% Balochi + 98.60% West_Scottish
1.55927348 1.40% Brahui + 98.60% West_Scottish
1.61311999 1.40% Kalash + 98.60% West_Scottish
1.62296217 1.20% Makrani + 98.80% West_Scottish
1.62319403 1.60% Dargin + 98.40% West_Scottish
1.63711867 1.60% Avar + 98.40% West_Scottish
1.64623093 1.20% Sindhi + 98.80% West_Scottish
1.64827097 1.60% Lak + 98.40% West_Scottish
1.64934727 1.40% Ossetian + 98.60% West_Scottish
1.66061181 1.60% Pamiri_Tajikistan + 98.40% West_Scottish
1.66263222 1.40% Afghan_Pashtun + 98.60% West_Scottish
1.66498923 1.20% Burusho + 98.80% West_Scottish
1.67276591 1.20% Punjabi_Jat + 98.80% West_Scottish
1.68855092 1.20% Georgian_imereti + 98.80% West_Scottish
1.68896711 1.40% Tabassaran + 98.60% West_Scottish
1.69271431 1.40% Ingush + 98.60% West_Scottish
1.69271506 1.20% Pathan + 98.80% West_Scottish
1.69731468 1.40% North_Ossetian + 98.60% West_Scottish
1.69996074 1.20% Abhkasian + 98.80% West_Scottish
1.70228039 1.20% Georgian + 98.80% West_Scottish
1.70330635 1.40% Chechen + 98.60% West_Scottish
1.70456241 1.40% Balkar + 98.60% West_Scottish
1.71164106 1.40% Kabardin + 98.60% West_Scottish
1.71955239 1.20% Adygei + 98.80% West_Scottish
1.72259784 1.40% Lezgin + 98.60% West_Scottish

Myself


Target: Grace
Distance: 1.6010% / 1.60097402
71.1 Icelandic
27.1 West_Scottish
1.8 Dargin

Distance to: Grace
2.07639110 Icelandic
3.67318663 Scottish
3.82745346 Norwegian
3.84933761 Dutch_North
4.10454626 West_Scottish
4.15441933 Orcadian
4.45470538 Denmark
4.51352412 Dutch_Central
4.67193750 English_North
4.68362039 Norway_South_Central
5.03362692 Dutch
5.03711227 Sweden_Götaland
5.04918805 Welsh
5.46866529 English
5.87728679 English_Midlands
5.93609299 North_German
6.00581385 English_Southeast
6.07132605 English_Southwest
6.61623004 Sweden_Svealand_West
7.66868959 Swedish
8.03895516 France_north-west
9.59108961 Flemish
10.36938282 German_West
10.77726774 Belgian
10.78080238 Sweden_Svealand_East



Distance to: Grace
1.82302811 76.20% Icelandic + 23.80% Scottish
1.89274575 81.00% Icelandic + 19.00% West_Scottish
1.95128828 1.00% Georgian_imereti + 99.00% Icelandic
1.95769531 1.00% Georgian + 99.00% Icelandic
1.95824177 99.00% Icelandic + 1.00% Ossetian
1.96325322 1.00% Abhkasian + 99.00% Icelandic
1.96968280 1.20% Dargin + 98.80% Icelandic
1.97173949 99.00% Icelandic + 1.00% Ingush
1.97500171 1.00% Avar + 99.00% Icelandic
1.98177014 99.00% Icelandic + 1.00% Lak
1.98236228 99.20% Icelandic + 0.80% Laz
1.98606116 99.00% Icelandic + 1.00% North_Ossetian
1.98667272 99.00% Icelandic + 1.00% Tabassaran
1.99025816 99.20% Icelandic + 0.80% Turk_Meskhetian
1.99235046 99.00% Icelandic + 1.00% Lezgin
1.99569355 0.80% Adygei + 99.20% Icelandic
1.99580176 1.00% Chechen + 99.00% Icelandic
1.99700221 0.80% Armenian_East + 99.20% Icelandic
1.99714119 1.00% Balkar + 99.00% Icelandic
2.00169469 0.80% Armenian + 99.20% Icelandic
2.00305246 99.20% Icelandic + 0.80% Turk_East_Black_Sea
2.00356198 99.20% Icelandic + 0.80% Kurdish
2.00500227 99.20% Icelandic + 0.80% Kabardin
2.00516588 99.20% Icelandic + 0.80% Turkmen_Iraq
2.00592483 89.60% Icelandic + 10.40% Welsh

Leinster which is by far Ireland's most populated area does show some differences than the other Irish regions. My results are most likely due to individual variation as I am half Connacht/half Munster by ancestry.

Interested in other results. I'll post some other Irish individual results later.

Grace O'Malley
03-13-2021, 08:25 AM
How do I do that?

Use this.

http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/

Grace O'Malley
03-13-2021, 09:03 AM
This is Creoda's father's result.

Distance to: CreodaDad(Irish)
3.74017379 Dutch_North
3.79490448 Icelandic
4.10739577 Denmark
4.15204769 Norwegian
4.21333597 Norway_South_Central
4.24338308 Orcadian
4.34893090 West_Scottish
4.58852918 Sweden_Götaland
4.84722601 Dutch_Central
4.95790278 Scottish
5.05288037 Irish_Connacht
5.24837118 Irish_Munster
5.34622297 English_North
5.36452235 Irish
5.43645105 Irish_Leinster
5.50486149 Dutch
5.83709688 Irish_Ulster
6.05058675 Sweden_Svealand_West
6.05905933 Welsh
6.13113366 English
6.48258436 English_Southwest
6.51131323 English_Midlands
6.89364200 English_Southeast
7.07838258 Swedish
7.33145961 North_German

Target: CreodaDad(Irish)
Distance: 2.6479% / 2.64789637
51.3 Norway_South_Central
48.7 West_Scottish

With Irish regions removed

Distance to: CreodaDad(Irish)
3.74017379 Dutch_North
3.79490448 Icelandic
4.10739577 Denmark
4.15204769 Norwegian
4.21333597 Norway_South_Central
4.24338308 Orcadian
4.34893090 West_Scottish
4.58852918 Sweden_Götaland
4.84722601 Dutch_Central
4.95790278 Scottish
5.34622297 English_North
5.50486149 Dutch
6.05058675 Sweden_Svealand_West
6.05905933 Welsh
6.13113366 English
6.48258436 English_Southwest
6.51131323 English_Midlands
6.89364200 English_Southeast
7.07838258 Swedish
7.33145961 North_German
8.81217907 France_north-west
10.30220850 Flemish
10.77597327 Sweden_Svealand_East
11.54073654 Belgian
11.56566903 Afrikaner

Target: CreodaDad(Irish)
Distance: 2.6479% / 2.64789637
51.3 Norway_South_Central
48.7 West_Scottish

Distance to: CreodaDad(Irish)
2.64790196 51.20% Norway_South_Central + 48.80% West_Scottish
2.75893943 47.80% Sweden_Götaland + 52.20% West_Scottish
2.78544442 52.60% Denmark + 47.40% West_Scottish
2.82964702 38.20% Sweden_Svealand_West + 61.80% West_Scottish
2.90440750 52.20% Norwegian + 47.80% West_Scottish
2.99743442 33.00% Swedish + 67.00% West_Scottish
3.11770195 57.60% Norway_South_Central + 42.40% Scottish
3.18571865 50.40% Norway_South_Central + 49.60% Orcadian
3.20865207 60.40% Dutch_North + 39.60% West_Scottish
3.22115981 22.20% Sweden_Svealand_East + 77.80% West_Scottish
3.26480546 46.40% Scottish + 53.60% Sweden_Götaland
3.28218647 60.00% Denmark + 40.00% Scottish
3.30770301 51.40% Norwegian + 48.60% Orcadian
3.32313461 52.20% Denmark + 47.80% Orcadian
3.33889515 16.00% North-Swedish + 84.00% West_Scottish
3.35190483 54.60% Orcadian + 45.40% Sweden_Götaland
3.36149431 60.00% Norwegian + 40.00% Scottish
3.36931600 61.20% Icelandic + 38.80% West_Scottish
3.42975657 58.20% Scottish + 41.80% Sweden_Svealand_West
3.45477725 10.20% Southwest_Finnish + 89.80% West_Scottish
3.48230145 67.60% Norway_South_Central + 32.40% Welsh
3.48554582 36.80% English_North + 63.20% Norway_South_Central
3.51178793 7.80% Finnish + 92.20% West_Scottish
3.51851036 29.80% English_Southwest + 70.20% Norway_South_Central
3.52042015 6.60% French_Basque + 93.40% Norway_South_Central

There is obviously some variability within individual Irish results. There might be some more British shifted and some more shifted towards Scandinavia.

Dunai
03-13-2021, 11:27 AM
I'm a little bit more Western shifted to average Hungarians, but still quite close:

Distance to: Dunai
4.48241007 Austrian
4.62222890 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
5.37693221 Hungarian
6.12456529 Slovenian
6.52157190 Hungarian_Alföld
6.84295258 Croat_North
6.92678858 German_East
7.09174168 Hungarian_Northern
7.71532242 Hungarian_Transylvania_Szekely
7.73996770 Csángó-Ceangău
7.93761929 Czech
8.20033536 Croat_West
8.30510084 Croat
8.42333070 Slovak
9.43855921 German
9.79133290 Croat_East
10.25001463 Croat_South
10.78504057 France_Alsace

Target: Dunai
Distance: 0.7810% / 0.78095020 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.7 Hungarian_Transylvania_Szekely
38.2 Austrian
18.0 North-Swedish
2.1 Kirgiz

Benyzero
03-13-2021, 12:04 PM
Distance to: Benny
4.50544115 Hungarian
4.68264882 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
4.83926647 Hungarian_Alföld
5.71578516 Hungarian_Northern
6.92749594 Hungarian_Transylvania_Szekely

Benyzero
03-13-2021, 12:05 PM
I'm a little bit more Western shifted to average Hungarians, but still quite close:

Distance to: Dunai
4.48241007 Austrian
4.62222890 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
5.37693221 Hungarian
6.12456529 Slovenian
6.52157190 Hungarian_Alföld
6.84295258 Croat_North
6.92678858 German_East
7.09174168 Hungarian_Northern
7.71532242 Hungarian_Transylvania_Szekely
7.73996770 Csángó-Ceangău
7.93761929 Czech
8.20033536 Croat_West
8.30510084 Croat
8.42333070 Slovak
9.43855921 German
9.79133290 Croat_East
10.25001463 Croat_South
10.78504057 France_Alsace

Target: Dunai
Distance: 0.7810% / 0.78095020 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.7 Hungarian_Transylvania_Szekely
38.2 Austrian
18.0 North-Swedish
2.1 Kirgiz

You are the shift itself

J. Ketch
03-13-2021, 12:43 PM
For reference Grace, the current Connacht average is based on 23 kits, Leinster 27, Munster 44, and Ulster 22. I'll update them when I find more results.

Ion Basescul
03-13-2021, 12:56 PM
Merged data (23andme v3 + LivingDNA + MyHeritage) pushes me too much to the West compared to just MyHeritage, where the rest of the family is also tested.
On an unrelated note, why do we have two Szekely references? What's the difference?

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<tbody>
Name
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
NE+NW Euro
Med Euro
Caucasus
SW Asia
Siberia
India


IonBasescul_Merged
25.47
29.48
15.06
9.86
12.89
1.53
0.63
1.83
2.85
0
0.40
0
0
54.95
27.95
9.86
1.53
4.68
0.63


IonBasescul_MyHeritage
23.53
30.47
15.75
11.25
12.26
1.47
0.66
1.12
2.34
0.10
1.05
0
0
54.00
28.01
11.25
1.47
3.56
0.66

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</google-sheets-html-origin>

<tbody>
Distance to:
IonBasescul_MyHeritage


3.13724401
Moldova_Centre


3.23970678
Moldova_average


3.56343935
Romania_Moldavia_North


4.25556107
Serb_north


4.29585847
Bosniak


4.45554710
Moldova_North


4.75713149
Serb


4.94421885
Croat_South


5.04804913
Romania_Maramures


5.07353920
Csángó-Ceangău


5.31842082
Serb_central


6.02309721
Székely


6.17649577
Hungarian_Transylvania_Szekely


6.57737790
Croat_East


6.73002229
Croat


6.77424535
Croat_West


6.88554283
Romania_Moldavia_South


6.91711645
Romania_Crisana


6.96012213
Moldova_South


7.07968926
Romania_Transylvania


7.19854152
Romania_average


7.72403392
Serb_south


7.79401694
Romania_Banat


7.90850175
Hungarian_Alföld


8.07808146
Montenegrin

</tbody>


Target: IonBasescul_MyHeritage
Distance: 0.6217% / 0.62173529 | ADC: 0.25x RC
66.6 Moldova_North
22.9 Csángó-Ceangău
4.7 Balkar
3.6 Italian_Sardinia
1.4 Nogay
0.6 NAN_Melanesian
0.2 Papuan




<tbody>
Distance to:
IonBasescul_Merged


2.72725136
Romania_Moldavia_North


3.21347164
Csángó-Ceangău


3.54636434
Székely


3.57769479
Moldova_Centre


3.76293768
Hungarian_Transylvania_Szekely


3.79824960
Moldova_average


3.91760131
Serb_north


4.20286807
Croat_South


4.30984919
Bosniak


4.35443452
Serb


4.46354120
Romania_Maramures


4.57969431
Serb_central


5.25556848
Croat_West


5.51538757
Moldova_North


5.77633102
Croat


5.87580633
Romania_Crisana


6.20969403
Croat_East


6.28672411
Romania_Moldavia_South


6.44094714
Romania_Transylvania


6.63581193
Hungarian_Alföld


6.87403811
Romania_average


7.10873406
Moldova_South


7.29303092
Hungarian


7.33542773
Serb_south


7.44964429
Montenegrin

</tbody>

Target: IonBasescul_Merged
Distance: 0.9205% / 0.92049565 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.7 Romania_Moldavia_North
39.1 Csángó-Ceangău
8.7 Moldova_North
2.3 Nogay
1.2 Xibo

Scandal
03-13-2021, 01:07 PM
On an unrelated note, why do we have two Szekely references? What's the difference?

The Székely avarage was merged with the Transylvanian_Hungarian avarage. I think Lucas forgot to remove the old Székely avarage.

Ion Basescul
03-13-2021, 01:16 PM
The Székely avarage was merged with the Transylvanian_Hungarian avarage. I think Lucas forgot to remove the old Székely avarage.

Got it, maybe it's worth editing the reference to say Transylvania+Szekely, like you have it for Transdanubia+Budapest. Otherwise, it looks as if it represents only the Szekely, instead of Transylvanian Hungarians too.

PaulieVanZant
03-13-2021, 01:33 PM
Distance to: Stahlbestie
3.67418018 German
6.64766124 North_German
6.90763346 German_East
7.32268393 German_West
10.91297851 Swiss_German
11.35597640 Swiss_German2

firemonkey
03-13-2021, 02:20 PM
Distance to: firemonkey
2.46085351 West_Scottish
2.80935936 Orcadian
3.38712267 Scottish
3.43016035 Irish_Leinster
3.58517782 English_North
3.61441558 Irish_Munster
3.67049043 Irish
3.84546486 Welsh
3.99657353 Irish_Connacht
4.06658333 Irish_Ulster


Distance to: firemonkey
2.03913364 1.60% Ethiopian_Tigray + 98.40% West_Scottish
2.04060364 1.60% Ethiopian_Amhara + 98.40% West_Scottish
2.06603564 1.60% Ethiopian_Oromo + 98.40% West_Scottish
2.06928758 1.60% Ethiopian_Wolayta + 98.40% West_Scottish
2.07581304 1.60% Somali + 98.40% West_Scottish
2.14227365 25.20% Dutch_Central + 74.80% West_Scottish
2.16176400 1.20% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator + 98.80% West_Scottish
2.19481198 23.00% Dutch_North + 77.00% West_Scottish
2.19996798 21.60% Dutch + 78.40% West_Scottish
2.21269369 1.20% Maasai + 98.80% West_Scottish


Distance to: English
0.54808758 English_Midlands
0.95304774 English_Southeast
0.96286032 English_Southwest
0.97041228 English_North
1.41894327 Welsh
2.54277408 Dutch
2.57423775 Orcadian
2.82072686 France_north-west
2.91815010 Scottish
2.98177799 Irish_Leinster


Distance to: English
0.11675487 96.80% English_North + 3.20% Italian_Lombardy
0.13478944 96.20% English_North + 3.80% France_Provence
0.14185288 96.00% English_North + 4.00% Swiss-Italian2
0.14292654 97.40% English_North + 2.60% France_Corsica
0.15607008 97.00% English_North + 3.00% Italian_Liguria
0.16009475 96.20% English_North + 3.80% Swiss_Italian
0.16048015 96.60% English_North + 3.40% Italian_Piedmont
0.17687094 64.80% English_Midlands + 35.20% English_North
0.18144859 97.00% English_North + 3.00% Italian_Emilia
0.19148521 96.60% English_North + 3.40% Italian_Veneto

Coastal Elite
03-13-2021, 02:58 PM
Mom (23andMe data)

Target: Mom
Distance: 1.0447% / 1.04474488
44.5 Irish_Munster
40.2 Norwegian
9.4 Scottish
2.9 Italian_Aosta_Valley
2.5 French_Basque
0.4 Laz
0.1 Karitiana

Distance to: Mom
1.77631641 Scottish
2.03811187 Irish_Leinster
2.06755895 Orcadian
2.32907707 English_North
2.47349955 Irish
2.50908350 Welsh
2.56427378 Irish_Connacht
2.59836487 Irish_Munster
2.61902654 West_Scottish
3.13807266 English
3.37025222 Irish_Ulster
3.39001475 Icelandic
3.52183191 English_Midlands
3.55696500 English_Southwest
3.61552209 Dutch_North
3.66176187 Dutch_Central
3.83142271 Dutch
3.86926350 English_Southeast
4.98816600 Norwegian
5.18748494 Denmark
5.71819902 France_north-west
5.72245577 Norway_South_Central
5.95898481 Sweden_Götaland
6.25573337 North_German
7.54419644 Sweden_Svealand_West

celticdragongod
03-14-2021, 12:25 AM
Distance to: CDG
2.23073979 English_North
2.25911487 Dutch
2.30935056 Dutch_Central
2.37903342 Orcadian
2.47301435 Dutch_North
2.74268117 English
2.97843919 English_Midlands
3.06501223 Welsh
3.16534358 English_Southeast
3.18432096 Scottish
3.24530430 Icelandic
3.49556862 English_Southwest
3.62955920 Irish_Leinster
4.21359704 Denmark
4.21753482 Irish
4.25987089 Irish_Connacht
4.31637579 West_Scottish
4.32268435 North_German
4.44347837 Irish_Munster
4.47904008 Norwegian
4.87244292 Norway_South_Central
4.96488671 Sweden_Götaland
5.15354247 Irish_Ulster
5.24991429 France_north-west
6.30200762 Sweden_Svealand_West

Target: CDG
Distance: 0.7843% / 0.78429804
34.9 Scottish
31.7 Denmark
14.8 Orcadian
9.1 Irish_Connacht
4.1 Greek_Northern-Thrace
3.8 North-Swedish
1.6 French_Basque

Grace O'Malley
03-14-2021, 12:46 AM
This is for my mother.

Her closest Irish region is Connacht while she is from North Munster and her family have been there for generations.

Distance to: Bridget
2.85851360 Irish_Connacht
2.99734883 Irish_Leinster
2.99773248 Irish
3.22327473 Scottish
3.37444810 Irish_Munster
3.46814071 Irish_Ulster
3.57705186 Welsh
3.98308925 English_North
4.28544047 Orcadian
4.33636945 West_Scottish
4.48422792 English
4.78324158 English_Southwest
4.84080572 English_Southeast
4.84349048 Icelandic
4.84529669 English_Midlands
5.52669883 Dutch
5.57687188 Dutch_Central
5.80053446 Dutch_North
6.09442368 France_north-west
6.69278716 Norwegian
6.83338862 North_German
6.83796753 Denmark
7.37328285 Norway_South_Central
7.53598700 Sweden_Götaland
8.59528941 Flemish

Target: Bridget
Distance: 0.9206% / 0.92063734
63.5 Irish_Ulster
24.5 Irish_Connacht
4.8 Latvian
3.6 French_Basque
2.0 Dargin
1.6 Kalash

Distance to: Bridget
1.82195418 96.40% Irish_Connacht + 3.60% Kabardin
1.82678001 96.20% Irish_Connacht + 3.80% Yagnobi
1.85954425 96.00% Irish_Connacht + 4.00% Pamiri_Tajikistan
1.86744008 97.00% Irish_Connacht + 3.00% Kalash
1.87080582 3.40% Balkar + 96.60% Irish_Connacht
1.89467634 96.80% Irish_Connacht + 3.20% North_Ossetian
1.89938018 96.40% Irish_Connacht + 3.60% Tajik_Lowland
1.90717126 3.60% Chechen + 96.40% Irish_Connacht
1.90732245 3.40% Adygei + 96.60% Irish_Connacht
1.90878638 3.00% Burusho + 97.00% Irish_Connacht
1.92225425 96.60% Irish_Connacht + 3.40% Lak
1.92257571 3.40% Afghan_Pashtun + 96.60% Irish_Connacht
1.93142637 96.80% Irish_Connacht + 3.20% Ossetian
1.93153455 96.80% Irish + 3.20% Kalash
1.93546469 2.80% Balochi + 97.20% Irish_Connacht
1.93796668 95.80% Irish + 4.20% Pamiri_Tajikistan
1.94082129 3.40% Afghan_Tadjik + 96.60% Irish_Connacht
1.94339256 97.00% Irish_Connacht + 3.00% Pathan
1.94422608 96.20% Irish_Connacht + 3.80% Nogay
1.94605170 2.60% Brahui + 97.40% Irish_Connacht
1.95264597 3.60% Dargin + 96.40% Irish_Connacht
1.95295237 96.60% Irish_Connacht + 3.40% Kumyk
1.95468191 96.20% Irish_Connacht + 3.80% Tajik_Mountain
1.95751824 3.60% Avar + 96.40% Irish_Connacht
1.96161489 3.20% Ingush + 96.80% Irish_Connacht

With Irish regions removed.

Distance to: Bridget
3.22327473 Scottish
3.57705186 Welsh
3.98308925 English_North
4.28544047 Orcadian
4.33636945 West_Scottish
4.48422792 English
4.78324158 English_Southwest
4.84080572 English_Southeast
4.84349048 Icelandic
4.84529669 English_Midlands
5.52669883 Dutch
5.57687188 Dutch_Central
5.80053446 Dutch_North
6.09442368 France_north-west
6.69278716 Norwegian
6.83338862 North_German
6.83796753 Denmark
7.37328285 Norway_South_Central
7.53598700 Sweden_Götaland
8.59528941 Flemish
8.91114471 Sweden_Svealand_West
9.38513186 German_West
9.59887493 Afrikaner
9.60227056 Swedish
9.69545770 Belgian

Target: Bridget
Distance: 1.8260% / 1.82603971
52.2 Icelandic
35.5 West_Scottish
7.3 French_Basque
2.9 Kalash
2.1 Dargin

Distance to: Bridget
2.42578106 5.00% Kalash + 95.00% West_Scottish
2.43400915 6.40% Pamiri_Tajikistan + 93.60% West_Scottish
2.44606498 5.80% Dargin + 94.20% West_Scottish
2.45064689 5.80% Lak + 94.20% West_Scottish
2.48757039 3.00% Kalash + 97.00% Scottish
2.50960864 5.80% Avar + 94.20% West_Scottish
2.52665850 94.00% West_Scottish + 6.00% Yagnobi
2.53064164 4.40% Balochi + 95.60% West_Scottish
2.55845013 2.80% Burusho + 97.20% Scottish
2.56720707 4.40% Brahui + 95.60% West_Scottish
2.57660514 3.60% Pamiri_Tajikistan + 96.40% Scottish
2.58183514 2.80% Punjabi_Jat + 97.20% Scottish
2.61716653 5.40% Afghan_Pashtun + 94.60% West_Scottish
2.62004022 2.40% Balochi + 97.60% Scottish
2.62769305 2.60% Pathan + 97.40% Scottish
2.63971201 5.60% Chechen + 94.40% West_Scottish
2.64110534 2.40% Brahui + 97.60% Scottish
2.64389586 4.80% Burusho + 95.20% West_Scottish
2.64482451 5.40% Kabardin + 94.60% West_Scottish
2.65616974 5.80% Tabassaran + 94.20% West_Scottish
2.66123400 97.60% Scottish + 2.40% Sindhi
2.66943222 5.80% Tajik_Lowland + 94.20% West_Scottish
2.67780136 2.80% Afghan_Pashtun + 97.20% Scottish
2.68313381 3.00% Dargin + 97.00% Scottish
2.69442062 3.00% Lak + 97.00% Scottish

17571imre
03-14-2021, 12:55 AM
Distance to: imre
4.12997579 Hungarian_Transylvania_Szekely
4.26739968 Székely
5.71312524 Croat_West
5.88588141 Csángó-Ceangău
6.59590024 Romania_Crisana
6.96587396 Serb_central
7.06864202 Croat_South
7.16940025 Hungarian
7.39810111 Serb
7.40285756 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
7.42697112 Romania_Moldavia_North
7.43503867 Serb_north
7.46101870 Croat
7.49151520 Romania_Maramures
7.50282613 Hungarian_Alföld
8.14599288 Romania_Transylvania
8.31090248 Romania_Moldavia_South
8.34592116 Montenegrin
8.70343610 Bosniak
8.79307114 Croat_North
8.94135337 Slovenian
9.13394219 Austrian
9.23220992 Moldova_Centre
9.24959459 Romania_average
9.32448926 Serb_south

Target: imre
Distance: 0.6851% / 0.68513258 | ADC: 0.25x RC
36.3 Hungarian_Transylvania_Szekely
35.5 Croat_West
11.5 Swiss_German2
8.5 Swiss_Italian
8.2 Italian_Trentino

Rćdwald
03-14-2021, 01:20 AM
Distance to: Raedwald

5.32331664 Southeast_English
5.47567347 South_Dutch
6.66892045 West_German
7.24839982 Orcadian
7.49343713 Southwest_English
7.96270055 Danish
8.08713175 North_German
8.11694524 North_Dutch
8.73901596 Irish
9.09443786 West_Scottish
10.31291908 Norwegian
10.62280095 French
11.33753501 Swedish
12.76955363 Austrian
13.28200286 East_German
16.25809337 North_Swedish
17.87920300 Hungarian
18.42855393 Spanish_Cataluna
19.45865617 Southwest_French
19.65841296 Spanish_Galicia
19.67908534 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
20.11142710 Spanish_Cantabria
20.13730618 Portuguese
21.41719636 Spanish_Valencia
21.55378157 Spanish_Murcia


Target: Raedwald

Distance: 1.7026% / 1.70262934 | R6P
46.8 Southeast_English
23.9 Danish
12.4 Spanish_Valencia
8.4 Lithuanian
6.1 French_Basque
2.4 Karitiana

oszkar07
03-14-2021, 07:29 AM
Distance to: Hungarian
2.55172491 Slovenian
3.16545415 Croat
5.47570087 Slovak
6.89277883 Czech
6.92676692 Bosniak
7.73963823 Austrian
8.77619508 Moldovan
8.96492052 Serb
12.68648493 Montenegrin
12.77186361 Romanian

In this looks like I lean bit closer to my Hungarian side than British.
I have put in Italics pops that are more likely to be connected to British side, although some can overlap eg German. The Bolded pop's connect to Hungarian side.


Distance to: Oszkar
3.72317069 Austrian
5.04733593 German_East
6.84580163 German
7.93366246 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
8.14288647 Czech
8.25083632 Slovenian
8.82207459 Hungarian
9.51402123 Croat_North
9.59022419 Hungarian_Northern
9.87401134 Slovak
9.98206892 Hungarian_Alföld
10.03557173 France_Alsace
10.13897924 German_West
10.81012026 Swiss_German
11.14596788 Afrikaner
11.34722874 North_German
11.62015060 Belgian
11.69236931 Croat
11.72224381 Swiss_German2
11.72239310 Croat_West
11.86996209 Flemish
12.05339786 Hungarian_Transylvania_Szekely
12.05646714 Pennsylvania_Dutch
12.07142494 Sorb_Lusatia
12.18825254 Csángó-Ceangău

MandM
03-14-2021, 08:08 AM
Distance to: Serb
0.72780492 Serb_central
1.46044514 Romania_Maramures
1.62797420 Serb_north
2.20268019 Romania_Moldavia_North
3.11528490 Moldova_average
3.34296276 Moldova_Centre
3.45476483 Romania_Crisana
3.70896212 Croat_South
3.82602927 Bosniak
3.88164913 Romania_Moldavia_South
4.01057353 Romania_Transylvania
4.05820157 Serb_south
4.44586325 Romania_average
4.45380736 Moldova_South
4.84979381 Montenegrin
5.15658802 Székely
5.20666880 Romania_Banat
5.39306963 Hungarian_Transylvania_Szekely
5.46030219 Croat_West
5.49203059 Romania_Oltenia
5.73534655 Bulgaria_Northwestern
5.94303794 Csángó-Ceangău
6.07098015 Bosniak_Sandzak
6.44234429 Romania_Dobruja
6.44724747 Romania_Wallachia


Distance to: Milenko
4.34378867 Moldova_South
4.83092124 Romania_Maramures
4.92791031 Serb
5.36112861 Serb_south
5.39149330 Serb_central
5.45972527 Romania_average
5.47785542 Romania_Banat
5.60256191 Moldova_average
5.64757470 Romania_Moldavia_South
5.75588395 Serb_north
5.77715328 Bulgaria_Northwestern
5.79054402 Romania_Transylvania
5.98204814 Moldova_Centre
6.17887530 Romania_Oltenia
6.18112449 Romania_Moldavia_North
6.23846936 Romania_Crisana
6.24392505 Montenegrin
6.34253104 Romania_Dobruja
6.45855247 Romania_Wallachia
6.66003754 Bosniak_Sandzak
6.73901328 Romania_Muntenia
7.02724697 Bosniak
7.20518563 Bulgaria_Southwestern
7.40708445 Pomak_Bulgaria
7.43737185 Bulgaria_average

oszkar07
03-14-2021, 09:38 AM
Distance to: imre
4.12997579 Hungarian_Transylvania_Szekely
4.26739968 Székely
5.71312524 Croat_West
5.88588141 Csángó-Ceangău
6.59590024 Romania_Crisana
6.96587396 Serb_central
7.06864202 Croat_South
7.16940025 Hungarian
7.39810111 Serb
7.40285756 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
7.42697112 Romania_Moldavia_North
7.43503867 Serb_north
7.46101870 Croat
7.49151520 Romania_Maramures
7.50282613 Hungarian_Alföld
8.14599288 Romania_Transylvania
8.31090248 Romania_Moldavia_South
8.34592116 Montenegrin
8.70343610 Bosniak
8.79307114 Croat_North
8.94135337 Slovenian
9.13394219 Austrian
9.23220992 Moldova_Centre
9.24959459 Romania_average
9.32448926 Serb_south

Target: imre
Distance: 0.6851% / 0.68513258 | ADC: 0.25x RC
36.3 Hungarian_Transylvania_Szekely
35.5 Croat_West
11.5 Swiss_German2
8.5 Swiss_Italian
8.2 Italian_Trentino

You seem to plot like a full Hungarian here, not much that shows your 25% Dutch background.

17571imre
03-14-2021, 12:24 PM
You seem to plot like a full Hungarian here, not much that shows your 25% Dutch background.

Yep i have that on every calculator also G25. I think Ion Basescul told once that sometimes the dominant ancestry just takes over and that its not rare. So that can explain my results all the time :)

Thracian
03-14-2021, 01:59 PM
Turk Thrace


Distance to: Turk_Trakya
4.58850738 Turk_Deliorman
7.06084273 Turk_Makedonya
8.71583043 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
8.77353976 Turk_Crete
9.11617244 Bulgaria_Southeastern
9.12669162 Greek_Istanbul
9.14805444 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
9.93584923 Pomak_Greece
10.39201135 Bulgaria_Northeastern
10.59457408 Greek_Northeast
10.60207998 Vlach(Aromanian)_average
10.71535347 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
10.74404952 Greek
10.87763301 Greek_Northern-Thrace
10.92154293 Greek_West_Macedonia
10.98898539 Greek_Central_Macedonia
11.08616706 Bulgaria_Southcentral
11.18666170 Bulgaria_Northcentral
11.20820235 Pomak_Bulgaria
11.24257978 Greek_Peloponnese
11.62523978 Bulgaria_average
11.64548518 Greek_Thessaly
11.72086174 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
11.77160992 Macedonian_South
11.81466885 Greek_West


I



Distance to: Thracian(balkan_turk)
5.85551876 Turk_Makedonya
6.27652770 Turk_Trakya
6.62729206 Turk_Deliorman
8.06793034 Greek_Istanbul
8.44125583 Bulgaria_Southeastern
8.76254529 Greek_Northeast
8.85529785 Greek_West_Macedonia
8.97182813 Bulgaria_Northeastern
8.97666976 Turk_Crete
9.03455035 Vlach(Aromanian)_average
9.08033590 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
9.14821841 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
9.29669834 Greek
9.60569753 Greek_Thessaly
9.73147471 Greek_Peloponnese
9.98492864 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
10.01635662 Greek_Central_Macedonia
10.33372150 Macedonian_South
10.35254075 Bulgaria_Southcentral
10.53316667 Macedonian
10.55495144 Bulgaria_Northcentral
10.56913904 Greek_Central
10.58169646 Pomak_Greece
10.58696368 Greek_West
10.74770673 Greek_Eastern-Thrace


Differences through mode difference (AC-BC)


Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↑
A: Thracian(balkan_turk)
B: Turk_Trakya
C: ↴
-3.78336753 France_Provence
-3.63804988 Italian_Friuli_VG
-3.61007819 Italian_Aosta_Valley
-3.60510745 Swiss_Italian
-3.59279273 Spanish_Cataluna
-3.59006649 Spanish_Murcia
-3.58036552 Spanish_Extremadura
-3.56011263 Portuguese
-3.55404822 Spanish_Valencia
-3.53633835 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
-3.51929679 Spanish_Aragon
-3.50279971 Spanish
-3.49251820 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
-3.48792492 Italian_Liguria
-3.47620537 France_Central
-3.46587054 Swiss-Italian2
-3.45947989 French
-3.45624114 Spanish_Galicia
-3.45442065 Italian
-3.44336560 France_north-east
-3.43477957 Italian_Emilia
-3.42652222 Irish_Ulster
-3.42105901 Belgian
-3.41870334 Irish_Munster
-3.41511818 Spanish_Andalucia


Distance difference: ( AC - BC ) ↓
A: Thracian(balkan_turk)
B: Turk_Trakya
C: ↴
3.40807655 Hakas
3.40073510 Crimean_Tatar
3.24468802 Mongolian
3.23193419 Nogay
3.21444951 Buryat
3.20966425 Kazakh
3.18286647 Altaian
3.16919109 Karakalpak
3.16483372 Xibo
3.16089973 Hezhen
3.16072885 Tuvinian
3.14931418 Kirgiz
3.12728261 Shors
3.08516626 Selkup
3.03437383 Oroqen
3.02880876 Japanese
3.01705009 Afghan_Turkmen
3.01665695 Ket
2.98840444 Tu
2.92601935 Uzbeki
2.88637032 Hazara
2.87839742 Yakut
2.87182058 Bashkir
2.83283655 Naxi
2.81292412 Evenki



According to this, I am a bit Western shifted and Turk Thrace are a bit Tatar shifted.

Single runs,


Target: Turk_Trakya
Distance: 0.0066% / 0.00661281 | ADC: 0.25x
99.6 Turk_Trakya
0.3 Turk_Deliorman
0.1 Turk_North_West

Without Turk trakya

Target: Turk_Trakya
Distance: 0.8545% / 0.85454342 | ADC: 0.25x
68.2 Turk_Deliorman
15.6 Turk_North_West
12.2 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
2.5 Turk_Crete
1.5 Selkup

Target: Thracian(balkan_turk)
Distance: 2.0771% / 2.07709916 | ADC: 0.25x
77.1 Turk_Makedonya
10.8 Pamiri_Tajikistan
7.2 Greek_Andros_Island
2.0 Irish_Ulster
1.5 Saudi
1.1 Balkan_Gypsy
0.3 Gypsy_Wallachia




My results were the same that's why I did not run mine without Trakya. But I removed Makedonya and kept Trakya to compare myself with directly Turk Trakya


Target: Thracian(balkan_turk)
Distance: 2.0518% / 2.05183938 | ADC: 0.25x
47.2 Turk_Trakya
21.2 Greek_Istanbul
15.0 Greek_Andros_Island
7.5 North_German
3.7 Brahmin_UP
2.5 Italian_Friuli_VG
2.2 Bulgaria_Northeastern
0.7 Saudi


I removed all Balkan Turks



Target: Turk_Trakya
Distance: 1.0881% / 1.08809267 | ADC: 0.25x
42.4 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
31.6 Turk_North_West
17.4 Pomak_Greece
8.6 Crimean_Tatar

Target: Thracian(balkan_turk)
Distance: 2.3250% / 2.32496199 | ADC: 0.25x
51.0 Bulgaria_Northeastern
34.6 Greek_Andros_Island
9.6 Tajik_Mountain
2.2 Brahmin_UP
1.5 Selkup
0.6 Turkmen
0.5 Saudi


And made a limited model according to historical migration paths of Turks to get rid of illogical results (like having North Germans, Tajiks or Italians, in this case actually South and Central Italians are proxies for native ancestry and Tajiks for Turko-Iranic ancestry but I removed all of them). I also removed Greek Istanbul and Macedonia Thrace because they have foreigner ancestries and also Andros Island. I added Anatolian Turks as well.


Target: Turk_Trakya
Distance: 1.0071% / 1.00706364 | ADC: 0.25x
30.2 Turk_North_West
29.4 Pomak_Greece
26.5 Bulgaria_Southeastern
9.6 Crimean_Tatar
4.3 Greek_Eastern-Thrace

Target: Thracian(balkan_turk)
Distance: 3.2257% / 3.22568539 | ADC: 0.25x
48.8 Bulgaria_Northeastern
29.6 Greek_Thessaly
17.7 Turkmen
2.2 Greek_West_Macedonia
1.7 Iran_Centraleast

celticdragongod
03-14-2021, 04:38 PM
I am not sure if this has been dealt with previously but does Irish_Ulster include samples from both populations in the north of Ireland or just the Catholic one?

Jana
03-14-2021, 04:56 PM
https://i.imgur.com/LfNZaij.png

In regional breakdown I'm closest to eastern Croats from Slavonia which makes sense because they are genetically in-between north and south Croats but closer to southerners.
I'm also mix of south and north Croat with southern ancestry being predominant. :)

MandM
03-14-2021, 05:27 PM
When I take raw data from ftdna and from 23andme its not the same, why is that? I get diffrent outcomes on vahaduo and gedmatch

Kaspias
03-14-2021, 05:29 PM
.

Try this:


MA2196,8.66,8.59,8.46,21.93,19.64,2.58,5.64,6.51,1 5.97,0.12,0.35,1.56,0
Crimean_Tatar,13.17,20.04,7.55,16.36,8.88,1.83,3.2 3,10.25,16.40,1.28,0.47,0.27,0.21
Pomak_Bulgaria,19.91,25.54,17.54,12.24,20.19,2.63, 0.09,0.69,0.47,0.30,0.17,0.19,0.05
Pomak_Greece,18.71,25.67,15.92,12.89,21.39,2.55,0. 34,0.34,1.27,0.36,0.58,0.00,0.00
Bulgaria_Northcentral,21.30,24.45,17.41,11.88,19.8 6,2.33,0.65,0.28,0.99,0.37,0.28,0.07,0.14
Bulgaria_Northeastern,22.15,22.37,17.46,13.43,19.4 4,2.56,0.46,0.32,0.49,0.24,0.29,0.11,0.10
Bulgaria_Southcentral,21.22,23.73,18.05,11.66,20.3 2,2.41,0.57,0.37,0.85,0.21,0.29,0.24,0.04
Bulgaria_Southeastern,20.13,21.81,18.44,13.87,20.4 4,2.92,0.43,0.30,0.48,0.44,0.47,0.11,0.07
Greek_Central_Macedonia,18.99,17.79,21.11,12.46,24 .88,2.53,0.36,0.37,0.21,0.55,0.18,0.23,0.19
Greek_Northeast,20.18,16.56,20.31,13.42,24.38,3.47 ,0.20,0.26,0.34,0.53,0.20,0.04,0.10
Moldova_South_Gagauzia,19.35,22.92,18.13,13.07,21. 02,2.46,0.65,0.37,0.91,0.33,0.51,0.21,0.07
Macedonian_South,21.94,21.01,20,11.07,21.45,2.57,0 .25,0.43,0.50,0.31,0.38,0.11,0.05
Macedonian,22.14,21.18,20.02,11.03,21.55,2.24,0.25 ,0.34,0.43,0.38,0.35,0.04,0.06


You can exclude/add if you want.


Target: Kaspias
Distance: 2.5531% / 2.55307475
52.4 Pomak_Greece
18.3 MA2196
17.7 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
11.6 Crimean_Tatar

Target: Kaspias_dad
Distance: 3.1402% / 3.14016660
35.6 MA2196
18.6 Greek_Northeast
18.4 Bulgaria_Southcentral
15.0 Crimean_Tatar
12.4 Bulgaria_Northeastern



Target: Turk_Trakya
Distance: 1.4796% / 1.47957109
34.1 Pomak_Greece
31.7 MA2196
26.2 Bulgaria_Southeastern
8.0 Greek_Northeast

Target: Turk_Deliorman
Distance: 1.7502% / 1.75024327
42.7 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
34.1 Bulgaria_Northeastern
12.6 MA2196
10.6 Crimean_Tatar

Target: Turk_Makedonya
Distance: 2.5768% / 2.57684278
52.4 Macedonian
32.4 Greek_Central_Macedonia
15.2 MA2196

Kyp
03-14-2021, 05:43 PM
I'll do Azerbaijan:


Iranian Azerbaijani:

Distance to: Azerbaijani_Iran
2.49315062 Azerbaijani_Turkey
2.65422305 Azeri
4.31476535 Zaza
4.50039998 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
4.95516902 Turk_East
5.16845238 Kurd_Sorani
5.41024029 Turk_South_East
5.65622666 Talysh
5.71988636 Kurdish
5.76220444 Turkmen_Iraq
6.59429299 Lor_Iran
6.67823330 Kurd_Iran
7.23678796 Iranian
7.31416434 Turk_Turkey_average
8.38242805 Turkish_mixed
8.61936193 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.73400226 Armenian_East
9.75131786 Turk_Central_East
10.58227764 Iran_Centraleast
10.70985994 Armenian
11.09839178 Turk_South
11.23215474 Turk_Anatolia
11.77790304 Georgian_Jewish
12.04073503 Armenian_West
12.25865001 Turk_Meskhetian

Target: Azerbaijani_Iran
Distance: 1.2170% / 1.21699677 | ADC: 1x RC
56.3 Zaza
25.6 Turk_South_East
18.1 Turkmen


Republic of Azerbaijan:

Distance to: Azeri
2.65422305 Azerbaijani_Iran
2.74796288 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.16838466 Turk_South_East
5.18778373 Turkmen_Iraq
5.36514678 Turk_East
5.40922360 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
5.44465793 Zaza
5.71020140 Kurd_Sorani
6.76938697 Kurdish
6.91601041 Talysh
7.02642868 Turk_Turkey_average
7.40074321 Turkish_mixed
7.50153984 Kurd_Iran
7.56321360 Iranian
7.60771976 Lor_Iran
8.46054963 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.77313513 Turk_Central_East
10.16259809 Turk_South
10.26533974 Turk_Anatolia
10.50689773 Armenian_East
11.02586505 Iran_Centraleast
11.11012151 Turk_Central_West
11.18705502 Armenian
11.44018356 Iraqi_Baghdad
12.04988382 Georgian_Jewish

Target: Azeri
Distance: 1.2388% / 1.23879457 | ADC: 1x RC
30.1 Turk_South_East
27.5 Kurd_Sorani
22.5 Turkmen_Iraq
19.9 Turkmen


Azerbaijani from Turkey:
Distance to: Azerbaijani_Turkey
2.49315062 Azerbaijani_Iran
2.74796288 Azeri
4.31287607 Turk_East
4.42109715 Turk_South_East
5.57976702 Turk_Turkey_average
5.85573223 Zaza
5.88696866 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
6.69274234 Turkmen_Iraq
6.89631061 Turkish_mixed
6.91984104 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.08760185 Kurd_Sorani
7.25027586 Talysh
7.57306411 Kurdish
7.92879562 Turk_Central_East
8.14998160 Kurd_Iran
8.83165330 Lor_Iran
9.24634522 Iranian
9.30834572 Turk_Anatolia
9.41418610 Turk_South
10.28413341 Armenian_East
10.49114388 Turk_Central_West
11.10394975 Armenian
12.13971993 Iran_Centraleast
12.29411648 Armenian_West
12.48922736 Georgian_Jewish

Target: Azerbaijani_Turkey
Distance: 0.5375% / 0.53748483 | ADC: 1x RC
36.5 Turk_South_East
27.9 Turk_East
19.2 Turkmen
16.4 Talysh



--> My father:

Distance to: KypFather(Azeri)
5.18122572 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.87381477 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.34693627 Azeri
8.29522754 Turk_East
8.33713380 Talysh
8.53239122 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
8.60798467 Turk_South_East
8.69863782 Zaza
8.75701433 Turk_Turkey_average
9.30064514 Kurd_Sorani
9.46871163 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.86987842 Turk_Central_East
9.94116693 Kurdish
10.18714877 Turkish_mixed
10.20719354 Lor_Iran
10.33207627 Iranian
10.45836029 Kurd_Iran
10.68113758 Turkmen_Iraq
10.70138309 Turk_South
10.77978664 Turk_Anatolia
11.40952672 Iran_Centraleast
12.40449918 Turk_Central_West
12.57928456 Turkmen
13.69120155 Kumyk
13.89276430 Armenian_East


Target: KypFather(Azeri)
Distance: 2.7720% / 2.77199495 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.6 Azerbaijani_Turkey
38.0 Talysh
6.1 Mari
2.3 North_Kannadi
1.0 Ethiopian_Gumuz

Thracian
03-14-2021, 05:46 PM
Try this:


MA2196,8.66,8.59,8.46,21.93,19.64,2.58,5.64,6.51,1 5.97,0.12,0.35,1.56,0
Crimean_Tatar,13.17,20.04,7.55,16.36,8.88,1.83,3.2 3,10.25,16.40,1.28,0.47,0.27,0.21
Pomak_Bulgaria,19.91,25.54,17.54,12.24,20.19,2.63, 0.09,0.69,0.47,0.30,0.17,0.19,0.05
Pomak_Greece,18.71,25.67,15.92,12.89,21.39,2.55,0. 34,0.34,1.27,0.36,0.58,0.00,0.00
Bulgaria_Northcentral,21.30,24.45,17.41,11.88,19.8 6,2.33,0.65,0.28,0.99,0.37,0.28,0.07,0.14
Bulgaria_Northeastern,22.15,22.37,17.46,13.43,19.4 4,2.56,0.46,0.32,0.49,0.24,0.29,0.11,0.10
Bulgaria_Southcentral,21.22,23.73,18.05,11.66,20.3 2,2.41,0.57,0.37,0.85,0.21,0.29,0.24,0.04
Bulgaria_Southeastern,20.13,21.81,18.44,13.87,20.4 4,2.92,0.43,0.30,0.48,0.44,0.47,0.11,0.07
Greek_Central_Macedonia,18.99,17.79,21.11,12.46,24 .88,2.53,0.36,0.37,0.21,0.55,0.18,0.23,0.19
Greek_Northeast,20.18,16.56,20.31,13.42,24.38,3.47 ,0.20,0.26,0.34,0.53,0.20,0.04,0.10
Moldova_South_Gagauzia,19.35,22.92,18.13,13.07,21. 02,2.46,0.65,0.37,0.91,0.33,0.51,0.21,0.07
Macedonian_South,21.94,21.01,20,11.07,21.45,2.57,0 .25,0.43,0.50,0.31,0.38,0.11,0.05
Macedonian,22.14,21.18,20.02,11.03,21.55,2.24,0.25 ,0.34,0.43,0.38,0.35,0.04,0.06


You can exclude/add if you want.


Target: Kaspias
Distance: 2.5531% / 2.55307475
52.4 Pomak_Greece
18.3 MA2196
17.7 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
11.6 Crimean_Tatar

Target: Kaspias_dad
Distance: 3.1402% / 3.14016660
35.6 MA2196
18.6 Greek_Northeast
18.4 Bulgaria_Southcentral
15.0 Crimean_Tatar
12.4 Bulgaria_Northeastern



Target: Turk_Trakya
Distance: 1.4796% / 1.47957109
34.1 Pomak_Greece
31.7 MA2196
26.2 Bulgaria_Southeastern
8.0 Greek_Northeast

Target: Turk_Deliorman
Distance: 1.7502% / 1.75024327
42.7 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
34.1 Bulgaria_Northeastern
12.6 MA2196
10.6 Crimean_Tatar

Target: Turk_Makedonya
Distance: 2.5768% / 2.57684278
52.4 Macedonian
32.4 Greek_Central_Macedonia
15.2 MA2196




Target: Thracian(balkan_turk)
Distance: 4.3896% / 4.38955215 | ADC: 0.25x
49.2 Bulgaria_Northeastern
28.5 Greek_Northeast
22.3 MA2196

Do you think adding some Anatolian/Iranic works for us?

Kaspias
03-14-2021, 06:05 PM
Target: Thracian(balkan_turk)
Distance: 4.3896% / 4.38955215 | ADC: 0.25x
49.2 Bulgaria_Northeastern
28.5 Greek_Northeast
22.3 MA2196

Do you think adding some Anatolian/Iranic works for us?

The reason why the fit is high is Eurogenes K13 is not that suitable for us. In the cases of individuals who have larger North Atlantic than Baltic fits are elevating naturally. That's because of the random inheritance through generations. Adding populations such as Iranian Turks and Iranian Turkmens could help to fit in the individual level but has no validity in terms of averages.

This model basically tells you you're 78% Balkan, and the Balkan admixture is equal to the pattern(not necessarily your actual ancestry, just similar to your admixture) 2/3 Bulgarian 1/3 Greek, which makes sense when considering your ancestral locations.

alexmegas777
03-15-2021, 07:43 AM
Distance to: alexmegas(Romanian)
7.31598934 Italian_Friuli_VG
8.24618093 Italian_Trentino
8.39999405 Montenegrin
8.46743172 Romania_Crisana
8.60075578 Bosniak_Sandzak
8.84246006 Italian_Veneto
8.84975706 Swiss_French
9.09315677 Romania_Transylvania
9.33323095 Romania_Oltenia
9.46416399 Romania_Moldavia_South
9.78777809 Bulgaria_Southwestern
9.94209736 Romania_average
10.12111654 Romania_Banat
10.17529852 France_Provence
10.27574328 Italian_Piedmont
10.28109916 Hungarian_Transylvania_Szekely
10.29870866 Székely
10.44129302 Romania_Wallachia
10.62978833 Romania_Dobruja
10.66086769 Romania_Maramures
10.74152224 Bulgaria_Northeastern
10.89201542 Romania_Muntenia
10.90917962 Serb_south
10.92458695 Macedonian_North
11.01316031 Serb_central

Distance to: alexmegas(Romanian)
2.22956036 40.80% Bulgaria_Southeastern + 59.20% Swiss_French
2.40504361 59.60% Bulgaria_Northeastern + 40.40% French
2.50431028 38.80% Moldova_South_Gagauzia + 61.20% Swiss_French
2.53449844 53.40% Bulgaria_Southeastern + 46.60% France_Central
2.55496008 47.00% Italian_Aosta_Valley + 53.00% Romania_Banat
2.55705718 55.60% Bulgaria_Southeastern + 44.40% French
2.61581735 48.20% Italian_Aosta_Valley + 51.80% Romania_Dobruja
2.63291650 44.80% Bulgaria_Northeastern + 55.20% Swiss_French
2.68358177 43.60% Macedonian_South + 56.40% Swiss_French
2.68517129 54.00% Bulgaria_Southwestern + 46.00% Italian_Aosta_Valley
2.68741581 41.80% Italian_Aosta_Valley + 58.20% Montenegrin
2.69846692 47.80% Italian_Aosta_Valley + 52.20% Romania_Wallachia
2.71539944 48.80% Italian_Aosta_Valley + 51.20% Romania_Muntenia
2.72910700 50.00% Italian_Aosta_Valley + 50.00% Moldova_South
2.74125503 46.40% Italian_Aosta_Valley + 53.60% Romania_average
2.74295875 57.80% Bulgaria_Northeastern + 42.20% France_Central
2.75254121 46.20% French + 53.80% Moldova_South_Gagauzia
2.76607808 62.20% Bulgaria_Southwestern + 37.80% French
2.76866076 44.60% Italian_Aosta_Valley + 55.40% Romania_Oltenia
2.80221434 43.80% Macedonian + 56.20% Swiss_French
2.81939795 54.40% Italian_Aosta_Valley + 45.60% Pomak_Bulgaria
2.85185863 59.40% Swiss_French + 40.60% Vlach(Aromanian)_average
2.85699807 48.40% France_Central + 51.60% Moldova_South_Gagauzia
2.86546108 59.20% Bulgaria_average + 40.80% French
2.86808253 42.40% Bulgaria_Southcentral + 57.60% Swiss_French

Target: alexmegas(Romanian)
Distance: 1.2134% / 1.21337686 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.3 Montenegrin
28.0 Swiss_French
17.9 Southwest_French
6.1 Kabardin
6.0 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
0.7 Nogay

Jana
03-15-2021, 03:50 PM
https://i.imgur.com/QwAQWP5.png

https://i.imgur.com/zalolrb.png

https://i.imgur.com/sXkC6aN.png

https://i.imgur.com/9832mj8.png

Jana
03-15-2021, 04:01 PM
Stears is closest to Croats :) And regionally to Csangos, Hungarians from region of Moldavia.

https://i.imgur.com/pjWdF2l.png

https://i.imgur.com/EpEyZgq.png

He is best modeled as Hungarian with 10% Yagnobi, which is very interesting. Yagnobi are eastern Iranic minority in Tajikistan with lost of steppe ancestry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaghnobis

Target: Stears
Distance: 0.9310% / 0.93104655 | R2P

89.0 Hungarian
11.0 Yagnobi

Thracian
03-16-2021, 03:56 PM
The reason why the fit is high is Eurogenes K13 is not that suitable for us. In the cases of individuals who have larger North Atlantic than Baltic fits are elevating naturally. That's because of the random inheritance through generations. Adding populations such as Iranian Turks and Iranian Turkmens could help to fit in the individual level but has no validity in terms of averages.

This model basically tells you you're 78% Balkan, and the Balkan admixture is equal to the pattern(not necessarily your actual ancestry, just similar to your admixture) 2/3 Bulgarian 1/3 Greek, which makes sense when considering your ancestral locations.

So, do you think K12b or some other calculators are better for us?

Kaspias
03-17-2021, 08:28 AM
So, do you think K12b or some other calculators are better for us?

K12b is more suitable, yes. I use both of these calculators while investigating one though, but usually, I run all the calculators on K12b while K13 is a superficial check.

Mortimer
03-17-2021, 08:34 AM
I have roma averages from vahaduo a friend sent me I didn't ask him for it but he thought I want to know I'm more westeuroasian shifted than the balkan roma sample but fit with the Spanish gitano samples like roma Barcelona so I guess I fit within roma spectrum

InfamousAngel99
03-17-2021, 02:43 PM
The origins of my ancestors over the past 4 generations seem to be Croatian, English, French, German, Irish, Norwegian, Polish, Scottish.

Target: Inf99(Ancestry)
Distance: 1.0182% / 1.01821704
36.0 English_Midlands
14.1 Irish_Connacht
11.9 Sorb_Lusatia
9.8 French_Basque
8.4 Denmark
8.0 Greek_Northern-Thrace
4.8 Italian_Aosta_Valley
4.7 South_Polish
2.3 North_German

Distance to: Inf99(Ancestry)
2.99628103 Dutch_South
3.00765690 German_West
3.30555593 Flemish
3.52513830 Belgian
3.73029489 German
4.26496190 Afrikaner
5.24907611 German_South
5.25377007 France_north-west
5.62429551 English_Southeast
5.74968695 France_north-east
5.90316864 English_Midlands
6.27806499 German_Northwest
6.31372315 Dutch
6.33818586 France_Alsace
6.34980315 English
6.50059228 Pennsylvania_Dutch
6.61175468 English_Southwest
6.86557354 North_German
7.06868446 English_North
7.09001410 Swiss_German2
7.12846407 Dutch_Central
7.37623210 Welsh
7.53684284 Swiss_German
8.28765950 Dutch_North
8.30855583 Orcadian

Target: Inf99(23andMe)
Distance: 1.3789% / 1.37885822
59.7 Norwegian
15.7 French_Basque
15.7 Greek_Northern-Thrace
5.9 Denmark
1.6 Italian_Trentino
1.4 Sorb_Lusatia

Distance to: Inf99(23andMe)
2.72556416 Dutch_South
2.89684311 Flemish
3.31972890 Belgian
3.48643084 German_West
4.32787477 France_north-west
4.77957111 English_Southeast
4.95762040 English_Midlands
4.97173008 Afrikaner
4.99236417 German
5.45133011 English
5.61892338 English_Southwest
5.77746484 Dutch
5.84464712 France_north-east
5.86716286 German_South
6.19373070 German_Northwest
6.20966183 English_North
6.43020995 Welsh
6.59492229 Dutch_Central
6.76528639 Pennsylvania_Dutch
7.03749956 France_Alsace
7.09745729 North_German
7.46426822 Orcadian
7.49564540 Swiss_German2
7.79577450 Dutch_North
8.07467646 Scottish