View Full Version : GiCa Autosomal Results
I m really Tuscan and Italian by default
23andme didn t detect any extra Italian genes not even in trace ancestry
https://i.postimg.cc/7bnY0Crr/Screenshot-2021-03-12-13-15-43-532-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/7bnY0Crr)
https://i.postimg.cc/qhX0sFYx/Screenshot-2021-03-12-20-41-10-372-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/qhX0sFYx)
here my ancient and modern population similarity:
https://i.postimg.cc/jLy9Lfpy/Screenshot-2021-03-14-09-04-01-007-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/jLy9Lfpy)
https://i.postimg.cc/CZvMXXJM/Screenshot-2021-03-14-09-04-22-526-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/CZvMXXJM)
Modern Population similarity map and list
Im Tuscan
https://i.postimg.cc/bsLDSLHJ/Screenshot-2021-03-14-09-09-16-323-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/bsLDSLHJ)
Modern Population similarity map
Im Tuscan
https://i.postimg.cc/bsLDSLHJ/Screenshot-2021-03-14-09-09-16-323-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/bsLDSLHJ)
Post your Gedmatch, ragazza. We've seen your 23andme and it doesn't say much.
Im a bit scared for gedmatch.. I know they use it to track murderers and criminals.. I have nothing to hide
But its quite creepy
but i will do It.. I just have to calm myself
Tauromachos
03-14-2021, 09:43 AM
Cool stuff!
Don't worry about Gedmatch, just download and use this program offline! Made by Lukasz Macuga.
https://dnagenics.com/admixture-studio/
It has the same calculators.
Anyway.. The possible match with Sicily on 23andme map seems real.. By the PC plot Map im a Tuscan who tends slightky to sicilians
My mtDNA is H5b
On 23andme they put this image of this Ava who lived in Scotland, who they thought was red haired but instead by genetics they discovered she was dark haired and with a skin tone the same of southern Europe... Anyway she was just H5.. I'm H5b
H5b is found at high frequencies along the Caucasus Mountains
https://i.postimg.cc/mz4ffvp2/Screenshot-2021-03-13-09-54-10-737-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/mz4ffvp2)
According to to me research I did online H mtdna give a slight then average predisposition to Alzheimer disease
Some Wikipedia info on mtdna H5
H5 has been dated to around 11,500 BP (9500 BC). It appears to be most frequent and diverse in the Western Caucasus, so an origin there has been suggested, while its subclade H5a appears European. However samples of mtDNA with T16304C in the HVR1 region have been found in four individuals of around 6800 BC from the Pre-Pottery Neolithic B site of Tell Halula, Syria, suggesting that H5 may have arrived in the Caucasus with farmers from the Near East
Grace O'Malley
03-14-2021, 10:04 AM
My mtDNA is H5b
On 23andme they put this image of this Ava who lived in Scotland, who they thought was red haired but instead by genetics they discovered she was dark haired and with a skin tone the same of southern Europe... Anyway she was just H5.. I'm H5b
H5b is found at high frequencies along the Caucasus Mountains
https://i.postimg.cc/mz4ffvp2/Screenshot-2021-03-13-09-54-10-737-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/mz4ffvp2)
She's a Bell Beaker so she shouldn't really be dark skinned. HGs were but Bell Beakers should be pretty similar to modern day Isles populations. H is the most common mtdna in Europe today.
Anyway great results. 23&Me appear to be making everyone 100% these days. :)
catgeorge
03-14-2021, 10:10 AM
Hopefully its not shocking to you that you are Italian.
She's a Bell Beaker so she shouldn't really be dark skinned. HGs were but Bell Beakers should be pretty similar to modern day Isles populations. H is the most common mtdna in Europe today.
Anyway great results. 23&Me appear to be making everyone 100% these days. :)
the whole story of Ava from 23andme
https://i.postimg.cc/bG4hbtT8/Screenshot-2021-03-14-11-26-54-289-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/bG4hbtT8)
she was from what they thought was an immigrant family from continental Europe (according to her autosomes)
She's a Bell Beaker so she shouldn't really be dark skinned. HGs were but Bell Beakers should be pretty similar to modern day Isles populations. H is the most common mtdna in Europe today.
Anyway great results. 23&Me appear to be making everyone 100% these days. :)
the whole story of Ava from 23andme
https://i.postimg.cc/bG4hbtT8/Screenshot-2021-03-14-11-26-54-289-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/bG4hbtT8)
she was from what they thought was an immigrant family from continental Europe (according to her autosomes)
Grace O'Malley
03-14-2021, 10:44 AM
the whole story of Ava from 23andme
https://i.postimg.cc/bG4hbtT8/Screenshot-2021-03-14-11-26-54-289-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/bG4hbtT8)
she was from what they thought was an immigrant family from continental Europe (according to her autosomes)
Thanks for that. All the Bell Beakers came from the Continent. They were very northern genetically but Yamnaya were darker skinned as well. Bell Beakers though are much closer in time and I know Rathlin carried the genes for blue eyes, had lighter hair and were lactose tolerant so it is strange Ava is so different. Maybe some Bell Beakers were lactose intolerant and some not.
Post Eurogenes K13, K15, K36 and Dodecad K12b for starters. These are the most important ones in your case.
Longbowman
03-14-2021, 02:16 PM
Cool results. Pureblood.
Cool results. Pureblood.
I hoped in at least something more varied like finding other ancestry in trace results but nothing
the result are simple, at least I'm having fun in decoding my snips for traits and medical conditions by finding online references and studies
I'm the most similar to this Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna mummy
https://i.postimg.cc/TLBbC4pK/Screenshot-2021-03-14-09-13-48-982-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/TLBbC4pK)
All of my ancient ancestors
https://i.postimg.cc/HJ6MqLP8/Screenshot-2021-03-14-09-06-01-035-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/HJ6MqLP8)
Chryssie Khanate
03-14-2021, 03:02 PM
ah a true imperial
gıulıoımpa
03-14-2021, 03:06 PM
Complimenti Gica. How are you doing as far as neanderthal variants go? since you are 100% tuscan and tuscans have been shown to carry more neanderthal genes.
Complimenti Gica. How are you doing as far as neanderthal variants go? since you are 100% tuscan and tuscans have been shown to carry more neanderthal genes.
I m very Neanderthal 81% more than 23me users
that means about 2% of my whole genome
https://i.postimg.cc/w1yf0Sfp/Screenshot-2021-03-14-16-15-22-367-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/w1yf0Sfp)
https://i.postimg.cc/F7g3mGYL/Screenshot-2021-03-14-16-21-57-330-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/F7g3mGYL)
Neanderthals gave my my crave for sweet food
I have two copies in two genes loci for that (in a way it's true)
As well as eating less frequently leaves (true especially when I was a child.. I hate vegetables)
And not feeling angry when hungry (in a way it's true)
https://i.postimg.cc/bG8yxc86/Screenshot-2021-03-13-00-51-35-948-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/bG8yxc86)
Rædwald
03-14-2021, 03:50 PM
Congrats on being pure spaghetti :)
Congrats on being pure spaghetti :)
My regional meal is more tortelli and Pici
so my Eurogenes k13
what does that mean?
https://i.postimg.cc/f3R8VCkV/K13-Eurogenes.png (https://postimg.cc/f3R8VCkV)
North Atlantic 25.12
West Med 23.11
East Med 22.61
West Asian 13.62
Baltic 8.62
North East African 0.47
East Asian 0.02 (finally something unexpected, some east asian)
RatCat
03-14-2021, 05:03 PM
so my Eurogenes k13
what does that mean?
https://i.postimg.cc/f3R8VCkV/K13-Eurogenes.png (https://postimg.cc/f3R8VCkV)
North Atlantic 25.12
West Med 23.11
East Med 22.61
Baltic 8.62
North East African 0.47
East Asian 0.02 (finally something unexpected, some east asian)
Distance to: GiCo
3.67533672 Italian_Umbria
3.74415545 Italian_Lazio
3.79946049 Italian_Marche
4.56786602 Italian
4.84748388 Italian_Romagna
6.08444739 Italian_Tuscan
7.10576526 Greek_Western-Thrace
8.10019136 Italian_Abruzzo
8.12672751 Italian_Emilia
8.18461361 Italian_Basilicata
8.72733636 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
8.78898743 Italian_Molise
8.97667533 France_Corsica
9.03707364 Greek_West_Macedonia
9.23761333 Italian_Liguria
9.35327215 Italian_Apulia
9.89398807 Albanian_Tosk
10.00649789 Greek_Northeast
10.03972111 Greek_Cyclades
10.07101782 Greek_Athens
10.10434560 Italian_Sicily
10.22505379 Greek_Thessaly
10.23968261 Albanian
10.39231928 Greek_Central
10.44587000 Greek
Closest populations according to your k13 results.
so my Eurogenes k13
what does that mean?
https://i.postimg.cc/f3R8VCkV/K13-Eurogenes.png (https://postimg.cc/f3R8VCkV)
North Atlantic 25.12
West Med 23.11
East Med 22.61
Baltic 8.62
North East African 0.47
East Asian 0.02 (finally something unexpected, some east asian)
Click "Oracle" right below the values and copy that text.
Figaro
03-14-2021, 05:17 PM
Looks like you’re “actually” Umbrian.
I’m kidding, of course.
Distance to: GiCo
3.67533672 Italian_Umbria
3.74415545 Italian_Lazio
3.79946049 Italian_Marche
4.56786602 Italian
4.84748388 Italian_Romagna
6.08444739 Italian_Tuscan
7.10576526 Greek_Western-Thrace
8.10019136 Italian_Abruzzo
8.12672751 Italian_Emilia
8.18461361 Italian_Basilicata
8.72733636 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
8.78898743 Italian_Molise
8.97667533 France_Corsica
9.03707364 Greek_West_Macedonia
9.23761333 Italian_Liguria
9.35327215 Italian_Apulia
9.89398807 Albanian_Tosk
10.00649789 Greek_Northeast
10.03972111 Greek_Cyclades
10.07101782 Greek_Athens
10.10434560 Italian_Sicily
10.22505379 Greek_Thessaly
10.23968261 Albanian
10.39231928 Greek_Central
10.44587000 Greek
Closest populations according to your k13 results.
Kavkaz is power :D
Target: GiCa(Italian)
Distance: 1.5130% / 1.51299316 | ADC: 0.25x RC
68.1 Italian_Lazio
17.7 Italian_Umbria
7.6 Ossetian
5.0 French_Basque
1.6 Dai
Target: GiCa(Italian)
Distance: 2.1170% / 2.11696216 | ADC: 0.5x RC
80.0 Italian_Umbria
12.4 Italian_Lazio
6.0 Ossetian
1.6 Dai
Looks like you’re “actually” Umbrian.
I’m kidding, of course.
She is pretty Southern actually. I mean unmistakably Italian. Despite what Samnium and others would say most Italians I've seen scored something along those lines. 20% East Med is normal even in Lombardia.
Congrats on your results GiCa! Your autosomal results are typical central Italian, as expected.
GiCa, post Euro K15, K36 and Dodecad K12b.
Eurogenes K15
Atlantic 21.84
East Med 21.03
West Med 17.71
West Asian 12.37
North Sea 11.83
Baltic 6.11
Eastern Euro 2.39
Red Sea 4.8
South East Asian 1.51
North East African 0.38
the South East Asian is a big surprise
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Tuscan @ 4.673073
2 Italian_Abruzzo @ 7.119574
3 West_Sicilian @ 7.693697
4 North_Italian @ 10.485189
5 Greek @ 10.692674
6 East_Sicilian @ 11.187804
7 Central_Greek @ 11.413494
8 Greek_Thessaly @ 12.374193
9 South_Italian @ 12.912933
10 Ashkenazi @ 13.821038
11 Bulgarian @ 15.419341
12 Romanian @ 17.101929
13 Italian_Jewish @ 17.218657
14 Spanish_Andalucia @ 17.662846
15 Sephardic_Jewish @ 17.757248
16 Spanish_Extremadura @ 17.972984
17 Spanish_Murcia @ 18.220137
18 Algerian_Jewish @ 18.798378
19 Portuguese @ 18.831205
20 Spanish_Valencia @ 19.377663
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Abruzzo +50% North_Italian @ 3.995090
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.275135
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Central_Greek + French_Basque + Lebanese_Muslim + North_Italian @ 2.153412
2 Assyrian + South_Italian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Aragon @ 2.159718
3 Ashkenazi + French_Basque + Italian_Abruzzo + South_Italian @ 2.210226
4 Assyrian + Central_Greek + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Aragon @ 2.234190
5 Assyrian + East_Sicilian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Aragon @ 2.236073
6 Assyrian + French_Basque + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 2.247164
7 Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.275135
the Eurohenes K36 is very dispersive, anyway here the results:
Italian 29.45
Iberian 17.65
Near_Eastern 7.06
North_Sea 6.41
Armenian 5.8
French 5.75
Arabian 5.7
East_Central_Euro 4.98
North_Caucasian 3.99
East_Balkan 3.94
East_Med 3.92
West_Med 2.14
West_Caucasian 1.8
South_Chinese 0.76
Basque 0.6
I told you to click Oracle... You probably just don't like me or you're difficult to deal with, so I'll stop wasting my time on you.
Dodecad K12b Oracle
1 Atlantic_Med 34.79
2 Caucasus 24.23
3 North_European 19.43
4 Southwest_Asian 9.81
5 Gedrosia 8.45
6 East_African 1.27
7 Southeast_Asian 1.06
8 Northwest_African 0.95
1 O_Italian (Dodecad) 5.66
2 TSI30 (Metspalu) 6.92
3 Tuscan (HGDP) 7.81
4 C_Italian (Dodecad) 8.39
5 N_Italian (Dodecad) 8.8
6 North_Italian (HGDP) 10.58
7 Greek (Dodecad) 14.23
8 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 14.34
9 Sicilian (Dodecad) 14.6
10 Baleares (1000Genomes) 17.77
11 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 17.99
12 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 18.28
13 Galicia (1000Genomes) 18.68
14 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 18.96
15 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 19.21
16 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 19.46
17 Romanians (Behar) 19.48
18 Portuguese (Dodecad) 19.57
19 Murcia (1000Genomes) 19.91
20 Canarias (1000Genomes) 20.15
1 80.3% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 19.7% Syrians (Behar) @ 2.63
2 81% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 19% Jordanians (Behar) @ 2.75
3 79.9% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 20.1% Lebanese (Behar) @ 3.06
4 81.8% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 18.2% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 3.12
5 69.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 30.6% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 3.23
6 53.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 46.2% French (HGDP) @ 3.23
7 69.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 30.1% British (Dodecad) @ 3.26
8 83.1% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 16.9% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 3.39
9 70.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 29.1% Irish (Dodecad) @ 3.39
10 84.6% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 15.4% Yemenese (Behar) @ 3.45
11 63% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 37% French (HGDP) @ 3.46
12 71.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 28.9% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 3.46
13 82% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 18% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 3.48
14 60.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 39.2% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 3.49
15 70.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 29.2% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 3.51
16 83.7% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 16.3% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 3.52
17 68.6% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 31.4% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 3.57
18 84.8% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 15.2% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 3.6
19 61.4% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 38.6% British (Dodecad) @ 3.64
20 64.3% Cataluna (1000Genomes) + 35.7% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 3.65
Tacitus
03-14-2021, 08:15 PM
Distance to: GiCo
3.67533672 Italian_Umbria
3.74415545 Italian_Lazio
3.79946049 Italian_Marche
4.56786602 Italian
4.84748388 Italian_Romagna
6.08444739 Italian_Tuscan
7.10576526 Greek_Western-Thrace
8.10019136 Italian_Abruzzo
8.12672751 Italian_Emilia
8.18461361 Italian_Basilicata
8.72733636 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
8.78898743 Italian_Molise
8.97667533 France_Corsica
9.03707364 Greek_West_Macedonia
9.23761333 Italian_Liguria
9.35327215 Italian_Apulia
9.89398807 Albanian_Tosk
10.00649789 Greek_Northeast
10.03972111 Greek_Cyclades
10.07101782 Greek_Athens
10.10434560 Italian_Sicily
10.22505379 Greek_Thessaly
10.23968261 Albanian
10.39231928 Greek_Central
10.44587000 Greek
Closest populations according to your k13 results.
I think you missed a couple components in the screenshot. This is what I get including Red_Sea and East_Asian (which is 2 not 0.02):
Distance to: GiCa
4.10298672 Italian_Umbria
4.15045781 Italian_Lazio
4.22860497 Italian_Marche
4.89430281 Italian
5.10996086 Italian_Romagna
6.36126560 Italian_Tuscan
7.01320897 Greek_Western-Thrace
8.27670828 Italian_Abruzzo
8.31459560 Italian_Emilia
8.40658670 Italian_Basilicata
8.86241502 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
8.90980920 Italian_Molise
9.15792007 France_Corsica
9.19347051 Greek_West_Macedonia
9.38223321 Italian_Liguria
9.56054915 Italian_Apulia
10.02717308 Albanian_Tosk
10.12612463 Greek_Cyclades
10.15381702 Greek_Northeast
10.17663009 Greek_Athens
10.23672799 Italian_Sicily
10.34250091 Greek_Thessaly
10.37987958 Albanian
10.52860390 Greek_Central
10.57023179 Greek
Target: GiCa
Distance: 0.5464% / 0.54639951
34.3 Italian_Romagna
18.0 Greek_Chios
17.5 French_Basque
9.6 Laz
5.0 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
4.9 Italian_Aosta_Valley
3.7 Greek_Western-Thrace
3.4 Saudi
1.5 Dai
1.2 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.6 Italian_Marche
0.3 Yemenite_Jewish
Target: GiCa
Distance: 1.3017% / 1.30169647 | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.6 Italian_Lazio
26.9 Italian_Umbria
8.3 Ossetian
5.8 French_Basque
3.0 Moroccan
1.4 Dai
A southern-shifted Tuscan but still obviously central Italian.
Updated Dodecad
GiCa(Italian),8.45,0,0.95,1.06,34.79,19.43,0,1.27, 9.81,0,24.23,0
Distance to: GiCa(Italian)
4.56119502 Italian_Romagna
4.66330355 Italian_Tuscany
5.69891218 Italian_Emilia
5.95577401 Italian_Marche
6.21324392 Italian_Lazio
6.57912608 Italian_Liguria
7.41369004 French_Corsica
8.93123732 Italian_Piedmont
9.26780449 Italian_Lombardy
9.72858160 Italian_Veneto
11.03159100 Greek_Thessaly
11.07990523 Greek_Thrace
11.09064921 Italian_Abruzzo
11.09805839 Albanian_Kosovo
11.12357856 Albanian
11.12504382 Italian_Friuli_VG
12.13591777 Greek_Central
12.35714368 Greek_Peloponnese
12.74289459 Swiss_Italian
12.78726710 Greek_Thessaloniki
Target: GiCa(Italian)
Distance: 1.7387% / 1.73871973 | ADC: 0.25x RC
77.2 Italian_Tuscany
13.6 French_Corsica
5.1 Balochi
1.9 Saudi
1.4 Somali
0.8 Dai
Target: GiCa(Italian)
Distance: 2.1233% / 2.12332925 | ADC: 0.5x RC
91.4 Italian_Tuscany
4.9 Balochi
2.0 Ethiopian
1.7 Yemenite_mixed
Do you think that the South East Asian is real?
is a way to know wich specific country? Dai are southern Chineses.. but it could be something else south east asian
You are similar to user manu1515 who is also Central Italian (Lazio and Marche, I believe). You two should probably marry :D
about the Kavkaz strong
i have two relatives (5th cousins) on 23andme who have 4 grandparents turkish (one with ties to the black seas; one who is a chechen-kurd)
and one who is half Chechen (grozny) half azerbaijani
i seem to have some affinity to Chechens
Yeah, you seem to get 1-2% East Asian on every run. Don't know what to think of that. Maybe nothing, most likely.
Post your HarappaWorld results.
HarappaWorld 4-Ancestors Oracle
1 Mediterranean 29.39
2 Caucasian 25.72
3 NE-Euro 23.59
4 SW-Asian 9.98
5 Baloch 9.17
6 SE-Asian 1.60
Using 1 population approximation:
1 tuscan_1000genomes @ 6.362504
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% cypriot_behar +50% french_hgdp @ 4.317332
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% cypriot_behar +25% orcadian_hgdp +25% spaniard_1000genomes @ 2.483052
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 basque_hgdp + georgia-jew_behar + hungarian_behar + sephardic-jew_behar @ 1.666742
i did also the cromosome painting.. i found also amerindian and subsaharaian on that
what is your general experience with the chromosome painting?
Yeah, you seem to get 1-2% East Asian on every run. Don't know what to think of that. Maybe nothing, most likely.
Post your HarappaWorld results.
Why would it be nothing? Than Siberian in EEs is nothing too. I don't like double criteria when people run same calcs.
Italy isn't isolated, there are many ways how could it reach Italy, Huns are one option.
on the chromosome painting i can find all the population of the world, i have even Oceanian
Here i fell very IMAGINE of John Lennon
https://youtu.be/he-EFFVvwME
https://i.postimg.cc/FYwgr7Dw/Painting.png (https://postimg.cc/FYwgr7Dw)
Alenka
03-14-2021, 09:48 PM
so my Eurogenes k13
what does that mean?
https://i.postimg.cc/f3R8VCkV/K13-Eurogenes.png (https://postimg.cc/f3R8VCkV)
North Atlantic 25.12
West Med 23.11
East Med 22.61
West Asian 13.62
Baltic 8.62
North East African 0.47
East Asian 0.02 (finally something unexpected, some east asian)
Your East Asian score is 2%, not 0.02%.
Anyways, congrats on your results.
:clap2:
Kriptc06
03-14-2021, 10:18 PM
very nice
2% south east asian is a big surprise
why didnt paint that on 23andme ..
i m curious i d like to find tools to know wich south east asian country im more similar
Longbowman
03-15-2021, 04:22 AM
2% south east asian is a big surprise
why didnt paint that on 23andme ..
i m curious i d like to find tools to know wich south east asian country im more similar
probabilmente perche fa parte della tua ascendenza italiana, nel senso che la maggior parte degli europei marcano un po' di DNA asiatico. Per esempio, anch'io ho 2% senza avere antenati asiatici. potrebbe essere che tu abbia piu 'asiatico' che il toscano medio ma devi separare i risultati GEDmatch da quei di 23andme. 23andme ti sta dicendo la tua etnicita, GEDmatch ti sta dicendo i vari gruppi che contribuirono alle popolazioni che formano il tuo lignaggio durante le epoche. quindi, se un italiano sia 25% ENF, 25% WHG, 25% nero e 25% asiatico, e tu sei 100% italiana, riceverai 100% italiano su 23andme ma qualcosa come 25% ENF eccetera su GEDmatch. non vuol dire che tu non provenga dallo stivale italico
e' dire: e' interessante cio che conta le varie calcolatrici di GEDmatch ma non sta contradicendo i risultati di 23andme. meglio dire, sta aggiungendo un'altro livello d'informazione a quello piu basico che si trova su 23andme ed altri siti commerciali.
Smitty
03-15-2021, 05:59 AM
I really don't think the Asian is real. The small percentages on Gedmatch calculators vary wildly (and are often flatly impossible, like Oceanian). If it occurs frequently within a population or can be tied to some known historical event, I'll believe it. But otherwise, I need more evidence.
Vid Flumina
03-15-2021, 06:57 AM
2% south east asian is a big surprise
why didnt paint that on 23andme ..
i m curious i d like to find tools to know wich south east asian country im more similar
cause its not there
in gedmatch fewer snps are evaluated on newest chips - i get 55k tops and random shit like 1.5% southeast asian on K15. i recommend G25 these calcs are pushing 10 years
Flashball
03-15-2021, 09:33 AM
Good. Kind of Tuscan results.
Scandal
03-15-2021, 09:36 AM
2% south east asian is a big surprise
why didnt paint that on 23andme ..
i m curious i d like to find tools to know wich south east asian country im more similar
That's East asian, not south east asian.
cause its not there
in gedmatch fewer snps are evaluated on newest chips - i get 55k tops and random shit like 1.5% southeast asian on K15. i recommend G25 these calcs are pushing 10 years
Where I can use G25?
Samnium
03-15-2021, 07:07 PM
A bit southern shifted for a Tuscan, but probably still in the tuscan range. There are ethnic Tuscans with your same profile, I'm 100% sure.
You're a central italian basically (I think you already knew that).
probabilmente perche fa parte della tua ascendenza italiana, nel senso che la maggior parte degli europei marcano un po' di DNA asiatico. Per esempio, anch'io ho 2% senza avere antenati asiatici. potrebbe essere che tu abbia piu 'asiatico' che il toscano medio ma devi separare i risultati GEDmatch da quei di 23andme. 23andme ti sta dicendo la tua etnicita, GEDmatch ti sta dicendo i vari gruppi che contribuirono alle popolazioni che formano il tuo lignaggio durante le epoche. quindi, se un italiano sia 25% ENF, 25% WHG, 25% nero e 25% asiatico, e tu sei 100% italiana, riceverai 100% italiano su 23andme ma qualcosa come 25% ENF eccetera su GEDmatch. non vuol dire che tu non provenga dallo stivale italico
e' dire: e' interessante cio che conta le varie calcolatrici di GEDmatch ma non sta contradicendo i risultati di 23andme. meglio dire, sta aggiungendo un'altro livello d'informazione a quello piu basico che si trova su 23andme ed altri siti commerciali.
I parenti su 23andme possono dare indicazioni?
parenti con 4 nonni nati in uno stesso paese:
39 Usa (dice poco.. Molti sono in parte italiani)
14 Italia
2 Turchia (sembrano una con geni vicino al Mar Nero, l altro con geni Ceceni, quindi sempre Mar Nero/Caucaso)
2 Canada (stesso discorso degli Stati Uniti)
2 Portorico (non hanno italiano ma porto Rico ha avuto un'immigrazione forte di gente dalla Corsica che ha qualcosa a che vedere con la Toscana visto che sono di fronte a noi)
1 Regno Unito
1 Spagna (il cognome o nickname sembra però italiano)
1 Svezia
Samnium
03-15-2021, 07:21 PM
She is pretty Southern actually. I mean unmistakably Italian. Despite what Samnium and others would say most Italians I've seen scored something along those lines. 20% East Med is normal even in Lombardia.
In N.Italy there's increased West Med in Eurogenes K13, I've seen many Lombards or Piedmontese below 20% East Med. (Not joking)
Think about Bergamo, they have 0 East Med ancestry (not the East Med from Gedmatch). Litterally 0. Same for most of Veneto etc. According to G25 models.
East Med ancestry truly begins at Firenze level.
One example from Veneto :
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?315856-Veneto-Gedmatch-results
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 29.04
2 West_Med 24.26
3 Baltic 15.96
4 East_Med 14.30
5 West_Asian 13.85
And this is a standard result, neither southern or northern shifted for a Northern Italian
In N.Italy there's increased West Med in Eurogenes K13, I've seen many Lombards or Piedmontese below 20% East Med. (Not joking)
Think about Bergamo, they have 0 East Med ancestry (not the East Med from Gedmatch). Litterally 0. Same for most of Veneto etc. According to G25 models.
East Med ancestry truly begins at Firenze level.
One example from Veneto :
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?315856-Veneto-Gedmatch-results
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 29.04
2 West_Med 24.26
3 Baltic 15.96
4 East_Med 14.30
5 West_Asian 13.85
And this is a standard result, neither southern or northern shifted for a Northern Italian
Standard? I doubt that. To me it's one of the Northernmost ones out there. In fact you being half Central French are probably still around 20% EM.
Longbowman
03-15-2021, 07:47 PM
I parenti su 23andme possono dare indicazioni?
parenti con 4 nonni nati in uno stesso paese:
39 Usa (dice poco.. Molti sono in parte italiani)
14 Italia
2 Turchia (sembrano una con geni vicino al Mar Nero, l altro con geni Ceceni, quindi sempre Mar Nero/Caucaso)
2 Canada (stesso discorso degli Stati Uniti)
2 Portorico (non hanno italiano ma porto Rico ha avuto un'immigrazione forte di gente dalla Corsica che ha qualcosa a che vedere con la Toscana visto che sono di fronte a noi)
1 Regno Unito
1 Spagna (il cognome o nickname sembra però italiano)
1 Svezia
suppongo di si ma la pittura autosomica e' un modo superiore di raccogliere informazione genetica. Forse se 15% dei tuoi parenti fossero russi o qualcosa di simile potremmo cominciare a considerare che potesse essere che avessi dell'ascendenza slava, ma non c'e niente di molto sorprendente fra i tuoi parenti, come hai gia menzionato la diaspora italiana e' ben diffusa ed enorme.
suppongo di si ma la pittura autosomica e' un modo superiore di raccogliere informazione genetica. Forse se 15% dei tuoi parenti fossero russi o qualcosa di simile potremmo cominciare a considerare che potesse essere che avessi dell'ascendenza slava, ma non c'e niente di molto sorprendente fra i tuoi parenti, come hai gia menzionato la diaspora italiana e' ben diffusa ed enorme.
più che altro mi sono saltati all occhio questi parenti del anatolia/Caucaso sul Mar Nero
1 turca con metà ascendenza di una città sul Mar Nero
1 che si descrive Ceceno Curdizzato
1 Azera/Cecena
ho anche dei parenti del Libano (non lo hanno messo) ma lo vedo dalla loro ancestry paint
parlando invece di Europa ho corrispondenze col mondo del Regno Unito (una con 4 nonni) l altra delle isole britanniche (3 nonni UK, 1 nonno irlandese)
Sorprendentemente non ho corrispondenze con i paesi vicini tipo Francia, Svizzera, Austria, Slovenia o balcani
Samnium
03-15-2021, 08:39 PM
Standard? I doubt that. To me it's one of the Northernmost ones out there. In fact you being half Central French are probably still around 20% EM.
Not at all, he has a common result, and I've seen many northern italians that are more northern than that... In fact he's very typical for a venetian. Even for a piedmontese.
Regarding me, well I've haven't taken a test, so I can't say, 20% EM is a pretty huge amount even for an half-half, so.
And don't forget that the result over there has 13% West-Asian which is a lot. Not at all "Northern shifted"
Ajeje Brazorf
03-15-2021, 11:05 PM
I also score some East Asian on GEDmatch, but that's due to the low coverage of the modern chip they use.
<tbody>
North_Sea
11.74 Pct
Atlantic
13.15 Pct
Baltic
3.69 Pct
Eastern_Euro
-
West_Med
21.12 Pct
West_Asian
14.69 Pct
East_Med
27.58 Pct
Red_Sea
5.85 Pct
South_Asian
-
Southeast_Asian
0.5 Pct
Siberian
-
Amerindian
-
Oceanian
-
Northeast_African
1.68 Pct
Sub-Saharan
-
</tbody>
I don't seem to score East Asian on Global25
<tbody>
Target: Ajeje_Brazorf_scaled
Distance: 2.0043% / 0.02004343
49.2
TUR_Barcin_N
19.4
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
13.0
Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
10.4
Levant_PPNB
4.6
IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
1.8
MAR_Taforalt
1.6
WHG
</tbody>
Mine
37.26 Mediterranean Farmer
24.88 Baltic Hunter Gatherer
22.32 Anatolian Farmer
12.93 Middle Eastern Herder
1.67 East Asian Farmer
0.55 Bantu Farmer
0.39 Pygmy Hunter Gatherer
Tauromachos
03-17-2021, 05:38 PM
Mine
37.26 Mediterranean Farmer
24.88 Baltic Hunter Gatherer
22.32 Anatolian Farmer
12.93 Middle Eastern Herder
1.67 East Asian Farmer
0.55 Bantu Farmer
0.39 Pygmy Hunter Gatherer
Would be interesting to know what you get if they include Sicilian Hunter Gatherer
Would be interesting to know what you get if they include Sicilian Hunter Gatherer
Are they different from others?
Tauromachos
03-17-2021, 05:44 PM
Are they different from others?
I can't say for sure this topic is fairly new for myself i didn't even knew that such folks existed
until recently but apparently they do : https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2019/07/04/692871.full.pdf
There is even a gedmatch sample which has been posted at eupedia
Not at all, he has a common result, and I've seen many northern italians that are more northern than that... In fact he's very typical for a venetian. Even for a piedmontese.
Regarding me, well I've haven't taken a test, so I can't say, 20% EM is a pretty huge amount even for an half-half, so.
And don't forget that the result over there has 13% West-Asian which is a lot. Not at all "Northern shifted"
With all respect let me have my doubts. Maybe that could be the average for some province but definitely not for the macroregion.
Eurogenes k13
Im really Caucasus shifted Tuscan
Theese results are interesting:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
2 88.6% Tuscan + 11.4% Ossetian @ 2.55
9 88.3% Tuscan + 11.7% Balkar @ 2.8
10 89.5% Tuscan + 10.5% Georgian @ 2.83
11 90.1% Tuscan + 9.9% Abhkasian @ 2.83
16 89.2% Tuscan + 10.8% North_Ossetian @ 2.89
19 88.6% Tuscan + 11.4% Kabardin @ 2.97
20 88.9% Tuscan + 11.1% Adygei @ 3
KAVKAZ POWER
https://zvuk-m.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/876546545.jpg
Tauromachos
03-17-2021, 07:35 PM
Viva la Toscana
RatCat
03-17-2021, 07:39 PM
Eurogenes k13
Im really Caucasus shifted Tuscan
Theese results are interesting:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
2 88.6% Tuscan + 11.4% Ossetian @ 2.55
9 88.3% Tuscan + 11.7% Balkar @ 2.8
10 89.5% Tuscan + 10.5% Georgian @ 2.83
11 90.1% Tuscan + 9.9% Abhkasian @ 2.83
16 89.2% Tuscan + 10.8% North_Ossetian @ 2.89
19 88.6% Tuscan + 11.4% Kabardin @ 2.97
20 88.9% Tuscan + 11.1% Adygei @ 3
KAVKAZ POWER
https://zvuk-m.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/876546545.jpg
Now you need to learn how to cook psihaluj
Differences between me and tuscans on Eurogenes k15
West Asian 9,46 +2.91% (peaks Abkhasians)
Atlantic 19,73 +2.11% (peaks French Basques)
Red Sea 3,33 +1.47% (peaks Saudis)
East Med 19,64 +1.39% (peaks Yemenite Jewish)
South East Asian 0,14 +1,37% (peaks Dais)
North East African 0,1 +0.28% (peaks Ethiopians Aris)
Amerindian 0.03 -0.03% (peaks Karitanas)
Subsaharian 0.06 -0.06% (peaks Yorubans)
Oceanian 0.08 -0.08% (peaks Papuans)
South Asian 0,43 -0.43% (peaks Sakillis)
Eastern Europe 3,37 -0.98 (peaks Maris)
Baltic 7,22 -1.11% (peaks Lithuanians)
West Med 20,24 -2.53% (peaks Sardinians)
North Sea 16,08 -4.25% (peaks West Norvegians)
Siberian 0 same 0 (peaks in Evens)
Basically i score less the northern euro components, Atlantic excluded (wich is anyway not a northern component ad it peaks in the basques) and more the Southern euro/Caucasus and extra europe
pajkosbalna
03-18-2021, 08:34 PM
Nice results!
My Chromosomes Painting
Is this Real? Have I really each cromosomes so different between them?
Is there some expert to explain me something more?
Eurogenes K15
Enjoy
https://i.postimg.cc/K35hQbxF/YW6913643-4-F2710.gif (https://postimg.cc/K35hQbxF)
^ wow I have a large chunk of DNA painted only Yellow wich isEastern Europe (people like Ukrainians etc..) I very never imagined that
It maybe explains why on 23andme I get pure East Euro like Poles relatives
Samnium
03-19-2021, 09:49 PM
With all respect let me have my doubts. Maybe that could be the average for some province but definitely not for the macroregion.
I've seen dozens of Veneto results probably, put him on the K13 calculator and you would find that he plot like someone from Veneto, nothing odd, really.
https://i.imgur.com/BqGx59N.jpg
He's not particuliarly NW shifted, there are people in Italy that come out as nearly 50% Tuscan 50% scandinavian or N.European... And actually the contrary, he's rather balkan shifted...
I share SNIPS with
Hellenic Romans 38.3%
Romans 22.8%
Gallo Romans 21.2%
Minoans 8.62%
Illyrians 8.58%
Phoenicians 0.23%
https://i.postimg.cc/kB4cLXHj/Screenshot-2021-03-22-00-10-57-576-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/kB4cLXHj)
^i guess that makes me quite Hellenic Roman (aka Magno Graecan = South Italian) ~about 46.92%
Axios
03-21-2021, 11:35 PM
I hoped in at least something more varied like finding other ancestry in trace results but nothing
the result are simple, at least I'm having fun in decoding my snips for traits and medical conditions by finding online references and studies
Ngl i would be mad spending money to know i'm 100% something. Cool results tho, italiana de pura cepa.
Ngl i would be mad spending money to know i'm 100% something. Cool results tho, italiana de pura cepa.
120 Euro is not that much.. I spend sometimes more on dresses ans shoes each months
Axios
03-21-2021, 11:37 PM
120 Euro is not that much.. I spend sometimes more on dresses ans shoes each months
Touché
gixajo
03-22-2021, 12:20 AM
West Asian 9,46 +2.91% (peaks Abkhasians)
Atlantic 19,73 +2.11% (peaks French Basques)
Red Sea 3,33 +1.47% (peaks Saudis)
East Med 19,64 +1.39% (peaks Yemenite Jewish)
South East Asian 0,14 +1,37% (peaks Dais)
North East African 0,1 +0.28% (peaks Ethiopians Aris)
Amerindian 0.03 -0.03% (peaks Karitanas)
Subsaharian 0.06 -0.06% (peaks Yorubans)
Oceanian 0.08 -0.08% (peaks Papuans)
South Asian 0,43 -0.43% (peaks Sakillis)
Eastern Europe 3,37 -0.98 (peaks Maris)
Baltic 7,22 -1.11% (peaks Lithuanians)
West Med 20,24 -2.53% (peaks Sardinians)
North Sea 16,08 -4.25% (peaks West Norvegians)
Siberian 0 same 0 (peaks in Evens)
You gave me an idea to make a G25 model.;)
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?344191-K15-based-references-Scaled-G25-Model&p=7148502#post7148502
(I did a similar model with k13 times ago, but seeing where every of k15 component peaks on makes it easier for me to do the model),
ancestry analisys
https://i.postimg.cc/0r2JLjvP/Screenshot-2021-05-26-21-20-29-131-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/0r2JLjvP)
SOUTH CENTRAL EUROPEAN 60%
ARAB EGYPTIAN 16%
SOUTH WESTERN EUROPEAN 7.3%
SARDINIAN 5.1%
ASHKENAZI 5.5%
MEDITERRANEAN ISLANDER 4%
AMBIGUOS WEST EURASIAN 2.2%
I got very high Arab-Egyptian.. That s very curious and surprising
Keys for reading
South/Central European
Includes: Italian/Bergamo, Italian/Tuscan and Toscani in (Bergamo, Tuscany and 1 other site) Italy
Arab/Egyptian
Includes: Egyptian in (2 sites) Egypt; Palestinian, BedouinA and BedouinB in (Central, Negev and 1 other site) Israel; Jordanian in Jordan; Saudi in Saudi Arabia; Syrian in Syrian and Yemen and Yemenite Jew in Yemen
Southwestern European
Includes: Basque/French and French in (South and 1 other site) France and Basque/Spanish and Iberian Population in Spain
Sardinian
Includes: Sardinian in (Sardinia) Italy
Ashkenazi
Includes: Ashkenazi Jew in Poland and Ashkenazi Jew from East Europe especially Lithuania (expat in Baltimore MD)
Mediterranean Islander
Includes: Cypriot in Cyprus; Italian/EastSicilian and Italian/WestSicilian in Italy and Maltese in Malta
Ambiguous West Eurasian
West Eurasian is a very general category containing Arab/Egyptian, Ashkenazi/Levantine, Central Asian, Northeast European, South Asian, South European, Northwest European, Southwestern European and Central Indoeuropean
^ I got 0 genes from the northern half of Europe
As well as I seem to be not blakanic at all
main towns of my ancestors origin: Barberino di Mugello, Vicchio, Vaglia, Monte San Savino
Stats on my cousins on 23andme
Towns of their ancesteal origin
Montagnana, padova, veneto
Nembro, bergamo, lombardia
Milano, milano, lombardia (2)
Piacenza, piacenza, emilia romagna
Meldola, forlí-cesena, emilia romagna
Forlí, forlí-cesena, emilia romagna
Faenza, ravenna, emilia romagna
Ravenna, ravenna, emilia romagna
Genova, genova, liguria (4)
Ancona, ancona, marche
Lucca, lucca, toscana (3)
Pescia, pistoia, toscana
Pistoia, pistoia, toscana
Prato, prato, toscana
Barberino di Mugello, firenze, toscana
Scarperia e San Piero, firenze, toscana
Scandicci, firenze, toscana (2)
Firenze, firenze, toscana (3)
San Gimignano, siena, toscana
Castiglion Fiorentino, arezzo, toscana (2)
Montevarchi, arezzo, toscana
Cesa, arezzo, toscana (2)
Alberoro, arezzo, toscana (2)
Monte San savino, arezzo, toscana
Anghiari, arezzo, toscana
Arezzo, arezzo, toscana (2)
Rieti, rieti, lazio
Teramo, teramo, abruzzo
Basciano, teramo, abruzzo
Montenero di Bisaccia, campobasso, molise
Potenza, potenza, basilicata (3)
Matera, matera, basilicata
Sessa Aurunca, caserta, campania
Lacedonia, avellino, campania
Avellino, avellino, campania
Napoli, Napoli, campania (2)
Siano, salerno, campania
Giovinazzo, bari, puglia
Monopoli, bari, puglia
Trani, barletta andria trani, puglia
Bisignano, cosenza, calabria
Verbicaro, cosenza, calabria (2)
Cosenza, cosenza, calabria
Calabria (2)
Messina, messina, sicilia (2)
Barcellona Pozzo di Gotto, messina, sicilia
Catania, catania, sicilia
Melilli, siracusa, sicilia
Pachino, siracusa, sicilia
Modica, ragusa, sicilia
Caltavuturo, palermo, sicilia
Palermo, palermo, sicilia (2)
Aragona, agrigento, sicilia (2)
Sicilia (5)
My updated deep dive
https://i.postimg.cc/VrHf3pCv/Screenshot-2021-05-30-21-02-12-300-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/VrHf3pCv)
ancient people I share snips with
https://i.postimg.cc/4KfXnsvn/Screenshot-2021-06-05-22-23-12-337-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/4KfXnsvn)
Tenma de Pegasus
06-05-2021, 10:05 PM
ancient people I share snips with
https://i.postimg.cc/4KfXnsvn/Screenshot-2021-06-05-22-23-12-337-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/4KfXnsvn)
Oi miss latitude, não sabia q vc ainda lembrava da senha do apricity hihi
Stats on my cousins on 23andme
Towns of their ancesteal origin
Skibbereen, Cork, Munster, Ireland
Cork, Cork, Munster, Ireland (3)
Limerick, Limerick, Munster, Ireland
Longford, Longford, Leinster, Ireland
Offaly, Leinster, Ireland
Ireland (8)
Scotland (2)
Treorchy, Rhondda Cynon Taf, Wales
Waunarlwydd, Swansea, West Glamorgan, Wales
Swansea, West Glamorgan, Wales (2)
Wales
Hornchurch, Havering, Greater London, England
London, Greater London, England
Somerset, South West, England
Dorset, South West, England
Portsmouth, Hampshire, South East, England
Burton upon Trent, Staffordshire, West Midlands, England
Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, West Midlands, England
Birmingham, West Midlands, West Midlands, England (2)
Derby, Derbyshire, East Midlands, England
Bradford, West Yorkshire, Yorkshire and the Humber, England
Ormesby, North Yorkshire, North East, England
England (5)
United Kingdom (8)
Beauvechain, Nivelles, Walloon Brabant, Wallonia, Belgium
Éghezée, Namur, Namur, Wallonia, Belgium
Wallonia, Belgium
Waarder, Bodegraven-Reeuwijk, South Holland, Netherlands
Driebruggen, Bodegraven-Reeuwijk, South Holland, Netherlands
Amsterdam, North Holland, Netherlands
Nuremberg, Middle Franconia, Bavaria, Germany
Maps with the towns of origin of my cousins
https://i.postimg.cc/w7LXxSdR/Screenshot-2021-06-06-16-44-20-231-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/w7LXxSdR)
https://i.postimg.cc/2Vr6vJZZ/Screenshot-2021-06-06-16-47-40-891-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/2Vr6vJZZ)
https://i.postimg.cc/t7HPSB6X/Screenshot-2021-06-06-16-50-48-747-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/t7HPSB6X)
https://i.postimg.cc/w130qwFC/Screenshot-2021-06-06-16-52-36-895-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/w130qwFC)
https://i.postimg.cc/XrwXCb2d/Screenshot-2021-06-06-16-54-26-216-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/XrwXCb2d)
https://i.postimg.cc/mP22tHHf/Screenshot-2021-06-06-16-58-03-173-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/mP22tHHf)
https://i.postimg.cc/t1pfX3ZW/Screenshot-2021-06-06-17-00-18-263-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/t1pfX3ZW)
https://i.postimg.cc/ThztdVB1/Screenshot-2021-06-06-17-02-09-796-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/ThztdVB1)
https://i.postimg.cc/phcjPctm/Screenshot-2021-06-06-19-58-21-573-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/phcjPctm)
https://i.postimg.cc/CB2R3ZjD/Screenshot-2021-06-06-20-00-02-127-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/CB2R3ZjD)
https://i.postimg.cc/SYGwX9DY/Screenshot-2021-06-06-20-06-38-253-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/SYGwX9DY)
https://i.postimg.cc/dZqJSwfd/Screenshot-2021-06-06-20-08-11-298-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/dZqJSwfd)
It s a mistery why I still don't have that much French, Balkan and Greek cousins
While I get lots of British Isles (this could be because 23andme it's done by lots of Americans) and turkey and the black Sea; there also that surprising Ashgabat turkmen cousin
Flashball
06-06-2021, 10:21 PM
Global 25? :p
https://i.postimg.cc/phhzyv45/Screenshot-2021-06-10-22-59-20-367-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/phhzyv45)
https://i.postimg.cc/Mcr1WHP8/Screenshot-2021-06-10-23-00-07-470-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/Mcr1WHP8)
Updated my true ancestry ad i spent money to highen the level
https://i.postimg.cc/TLsWwLhp/Screenshot-2021-09-26-17-33-03-052-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/TLsWwLhp)
Those I share DNA Snips with
(the only unexpected is the Scitian)
https://i.postimg.cc/Jy4y5cks/Screenshot-2021-09-26-17-39-42-601-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/Jy4y5cks)
My Top Matches by era:
EARLY BRONZE AGE
Ancient Middle Helladic Elati-Logkas Greece
1861 BC at 7.732
LATE BRONZE AGE
Etruscan Tarquinii Italy
800 BC at 6.016
IRON AGE
Ancient Venosa Samnite
400 BC at 9.326
ROMAN AGE
Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi
500 AD at 6.812
DARK AGES
Central Roman of Szolad
590 AD at 5.137
MEDIEVAL AGE
Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy
905 AD at 4.195
EARLY MODERN PERIOD
Morisco Post-Reconquista Granada
1550 AD at 9.632
MODERN PERIOD
Skeleton Lake Traveller - Hellenic
1805 AD at 7.714
Harkonnen
09-27-2021, 08:03 PM
GIGAresults
Very Curious/Interesting/Strange
I share loads of snips with an AVAR of Szolad
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pannonian_Avars
https://i.postimg.cc/fkqd17B0/Screenshot-2021-10-14-23-24-55-916-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/fkqd17B0)
With a PROTO-VILLANOVIAN
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Villanovan_culture
https://i.postimg.cc/2bMHw19q/Screenshot-2021-10-14-23-31-45-397-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/2bMHw19q)
With a SCYTHIAN of southern Moldova
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythians
https://i.postimg.cc/5QH2hRm7/Screenshot-2021-10-14-23-38-09-252-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/5QH2hRm7)
With OETZI
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96tzi
https://i.postimg.cc/grfzw4sp/Screenshot-2021-10-14-23-41-03-338-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/grfzw4sp)
Anyway I have many matches with the town of SZOLAD, Hungary.
The Avar, and loats of Roman settlers there
I wonder if is this the case with many other Italian users of mytrueancestry.. : getting matches with Szolad
Flashball
10-15-2021, 10:56 AM
Do you have your global 25 results?
Do you have your global 25 results?
Where can I find them?
Flashball
10-17-2021, 03:12 PM
Where can I find them?
1. You send 16 Australian dollars (12/13 euros) to the address eurogenesblog@gmail.com (Payment is now via Wise in AUD to this same email);
2. You ask him for your global coordinates 25;
3. When you have your coordinates (in scaled, especially), you go to the Vahaduo Global 25 site to compare yourself to old or modern samples!
You are Tuscan so it would be interesting to compare yourself to those ancient Etruscan people.
Vahaduo:
https://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/
https://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/Global-standard.htm
https://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/G25modern-scaled.htm
https://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/G25ancient-scaled.htm
Updated countries of my 23andme cousins
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 131
ITALY 51
CANADA 15
UNITED KINGDOM 9
GERMANY 7
FRANCE 4
POLAND 3
IRELAND 3
PORTUGAL 3
PUERTO RICO 3
AUSTRALIA 2
CUBA 2
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 2
GREECE 2
LITHUANIA 2
MEXICO 2
SPAIN 2
SWEDEN 2
TURKEY 2
AUSTRIA 1
TOWNS OF PEOPLE WITH 4 GRAND PARENTS NOT FROM ITALY
HAMBURG (3) Germany
KELHASAN (3) Turkey
BIRMINGHAM (2) United Kingdom
GIRESUN (2) Turkey
YALVAC (2) Turkey
CATAK (1) Turkey
CORK (1) Ireland
SOMERSET (1) United Kingdom
STOKE ON TRENT (1) United Kingdom
HORNCHURCH (1) United Kingdom
DORSET (1) Unied Kingdom
PORTSMOUTH (1) United Kingdom
Ajeje Brazorf
02-01-2022, 11:20 PM
Don't know if I had already plotted you, in case I hadn't, here you are:
https://i.imgur.com/y05vf9H.png
My results from My Heritage
https://i.postimg.cc/YvxLsKNk/etnie.png (https://postimg.cc/YvxLsKNk)
IBERIAN 39.6
GREEK AND SOUTH ITALIAN 31.9
WESTERN ASIAN 12.1
NORTHERN AND WESTERN EUROPEAN 11.1
ITALIAN 2.3
ASCHENAZI JEWISH 2.0
MIDDLE EASTERN 1.0
ITALY: EMILIA ROMAGNA high confidency
BRAZIL: SAO PAULO medium confidency (composed of Portuguese and Italian settlers coming in Brazil state of Sao Paulo from Portugal and Northern Italy)
ITALY: FLORENCE, BOLOGNA, RAVENNA low confidency
ITALY: FRIULI VENEZIA GIULIA low confidency
it's curious that i get as first group Emila Romagna and not Florence, Bologna, Ravenna
it's even curious that before Florence, Bologna, Ravenna i get Colonial Sao Paulo
I celebrate with the Flags
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/77/Flag_of_Emilia-Romagna_%28de_facto%29.svg/320px-Flag_of_Emilia-Romagna_%28de_facto%29.svg.png
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Bandeira_do_estado_de_S%C3%A3o_Paulo.svg/320px-Bandeira_do_estado_de_S%C3%A3o_Paulo.svg.png
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Romagna_flag.png/320px-Romagna_flag.png
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/55/Flag_of_Friuli-Venezia_Giulia.svg/320px-Flag_of_Friuli-Venezia_Giulia.svg.png
also..WHY IM ONLY 2.3 ITALIAN?
this is a bit ridiculous and uncorrect
PrimarisOrion
11-26-2023, 03:58 AM
also..WHY IM ONLY 2.3 ITALIAN?
this is a bit ridiculous and uncorrect
Yea when you are using inaccurate admixture calculator, this trash is horrible, Ancestry DNA is more accurate and even then they are commercial DNA testing so results change based on references in their database yet you choose the worst one, MyHeritageDNA.
Your politics are an excuse for you to open your legs for Non-European men? Seems Italian trash women do that enough as it is in Italy. You are the embodiment of low life Italian girls.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?378989-Italian-Women-Are-The-Pathetic-Loser-Females-Of-The-World-Generally-Speaking
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