Post more R1a music

[Illyrius]

https://youtu.be/kmSZW6f0s_Y

[vbnetkhio]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q90Kov8lRRQ

[Dick]

Here come the Indo-euR1opeans


https://i.makeagif.com/media/6-28-2018/fbb5QJ.gif

[Parça do Neymar]

Rethel needs to drop his R1aryan playlist here, otherwise this thread will feel incomplete.

[Shubotai]

Are there not so many Irish songs praising the R1a?

[Rethel]

https://youtu.be/kmSZW6f0s_Y

The hero of ths song was R1a indeed (according to FT). :)

[Norb]

https://youtu.be/kmSZW6f0s_Y

my ancestors make me proud :rolleyes:

[Rethel]

Rethel needs to drop his R1aryan playlist here, otherwise this thread will feel incomplete.

I do not get this haplogroupic music threads, because in majority people are putting there stuff,
which shouldn't belong there, often confusing their own temporal ethnicity with their own hg.

Btw, I made a thread about sarmatian music (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?231021-Szlachta-s-Sarmatian-Music), one of the most functionaly and
culturaly indoeuropean groups ever, so, everything what is there, can be putted here.

I also made a thread about cromag music (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?335555-Is-there-any-proof-that-local-euroaboriginal-I-WHGeans-had-MUSIC-life), but noone wrote there anything clever... :pout:

And one about modern polish folk. (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?229010-Polish-MODERN-folk-music)

[Rethel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEVt6zLRCtg

[Rethel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q90Kov8lRRQ

Kind of arabic yelling...

[Rethel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbEzDxbOyZ0

[Linebacker]

You can't expect to make a thread like this and it not being trolled to oblivion.

True R1a Indo Music


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ilXc0j1iHA

[Rethel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCY2cAQ-A9I

[Edgü]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls1ouOL1fbE

[Rethel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLcpwwSRx24

[vbnetkhio]

Kind of arabic yelling...

Steppe peoples were always a bit exotic, they weren't your boring ordinary north Europeans.
that's how i like to imagine them, at least .. :)

[Rethel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls1ouOL1fbE

:picard2:

[Edgü]

:picard2:

Boohoooo

[Altaylı]

:picard2:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Y-DNA_haplogroup_of_Tuvinian_Oorzhak_and_Mongush_cla ns.png
just Look at Altai people.

[Rethel]

just Look at Altai people.

Only Altay. If R1a will grow among Chinese, then all historical chinese stuff will be R1a'nish?
Or if Kongo people will be lingustically dominated by Turks, then this song will be E1a1a'nish?

[Rethel]

Are there not so many Irish songs praising the R1a?

Yea, Irish from Kaledonia :p


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIWbUjHZFTw

[Altaylı]

Only Altay. If R1a will grow among Chinese, then all historical chinese stuff will be R1a'nish?
Or if Kongo people will be lingustically dominated by Turks, then this song will be E1a1a'nish?

Turkics are Half west eurasian steppe and half east eurasian steppe people so they are part of R1 too accept or not these are R1 music too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqmOuo4X7Zg&list=LL&index=2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKmr2IQ-cN4

not only Altai Turkics carry R1 other Turkics carry too(with high frequencies:wink)

[Rethel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GLytMcoOWU

[PaulieVanZant]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGTASmKUnnI

Actually from a good R1a friend of mine. ;)

[Rethel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZALtzTmPz-E

[Rethel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr1DSgjhRqE

[Faklon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTIIMJ9tUc8

[Faklon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EJYW6HDbIM

[Jaromir]

https://youtu.be/YmhMSCAF_QE

[Tauromachos]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3bli2t40pU

[Rethel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcQdJyo1B-8

[Altaylı]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr1DSgjhRqE

Is that R1 music lol i am seeing only boobs i can't see any steppe thing

[Rethel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i--bB93hKKE

[PaleoEuropean]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJa2kwoZ2a4

[Rethel]

steppe thing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uZDANVghi8

[PaleoEuropean]

R1Anthem, a love song about Iran.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVj0ZTS4WF4

[Rethel]

Such simple thread and even this proves that idiots are among us.
Very sad, because forum is now intelectually dead.
Couple of years ago was yet something worthy of the attention here, many great users and great disscussions.
Now it is waste of time on this brain wilderness - especially with technical problems.
So, who killed this forum? (rethorical question).

[Figaro]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJa2kwoZ2a4

Heaviest thing I’ve heard in my life...

[PaleoEuropean]

Heaviest thing I’ve heard in my life...

his gf is a thot tho.

[Altaylı]

Such simple thread and even this proves that idiots are among us.
Very sad, because forum is now intelectually dead.
Couple of years ago was yet something worthy of the attention here, many great users and great disscussions.
Now it is waste of time on this brain wilderness - especially with technical problems.
So, who killed this forum? (rethorical question).



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr1DSgjhRqE
Is that intellectual? Honestly this video is very cringe and nothing do with R1
I meant post more folk music like R1 music
For example you can post tajik folk musics or other r1 people's folk musics

[Jaromir]

r1(obots)
https://youtu.be/D_8Pma1vHmw

[KirillMazur]

Something very deep, taking us simultaneously to the future and to better worlds.
Eduard Artemiev fits well here.

Колыбельная.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WpfkvQc9mU
Родные берега.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE29bgpc6F4
Прощание.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVNBbq0QU4k
Медитация.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1frqa1uuK8


Very sad, because forum is now intelectually dead.
Couple of years ago was yet something worthy of the attention here, many great users and great disscussions.
Now it is waste of time on this brain wilderness - especially with technical problems.
I agree, banhammer is a harsh instrument with a double-edged effect. In addition, it triggers a chain reaction of user churn.

[Moje ime]

Such simple thread and even this proves that idiots are among us.
Very sad, because forum is now intelectually dead.
Couple of years ago was yet something worthy of the attention here, many great users and great disscussions.
Now it is waste of time on this brain wilderness - especially with technical problems.
So, who killed this forum? (rethorical question).

Trolls. That is more than obvious.
When you remove normal discussion outside of forum and let only trolls to be on forum that is what you get.
Being a troll becomes more and more popular, everybody want to become one and trolls start thinking they are powerful, or cool or elite but in reality trolls are just autistic idiots.

[Illyrius]

Here's some more R1a songs

https://youtu.be/K_O4BrwHWH4

[Jaromir]

https://youtu.be/IOYuqRsty4o

[Jaromir]

https://youtu.be/1H1-JmbCdIc

[Faklon]

Sounds of the Steppe


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5-GDloa0Vg&ab_channel=Tobias


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rAHrHd2lcw&ab_channel=terauchi999

[Dr_Maul]

https://youtu.be/1H1-JmbCdIc

This Germanic build type music is more R1b I think

[Jaromir]

This Germanic build type music is more R1b I think

but he has R-M417, have a look at his data
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml

[Rethel]

Is that intellectual?

Is adequate and relevant.
It's not a randomly googled song from some coincidental IE-speaking country, neither
is chinese, mongolian or arab inspired, neither just someone's favorite kind of music.


Honestly this video is very cringe and nothing do with R1
I meant post more folk music like R1 music

So, Slavic folk inspired music about Slavs with slavic people on the screen has nothing
to do with Indoeuropeans, but some mongolo-chinese turkic uralo-altaic yelling has a lot? :ranger


For example you can post tajik folk musics or other r1 people's folk musics

Slavs arent?

[Altaylı]

Is adequate and relevant.
It's not a randomly googled song from some coincidental IE-speaking country, neither
is chinese, mongolian or arab inspired, neither just someone's favorite kind of music.



So, Slavic folk inspired music about Slavs with slavic people on the screen has nothing
to do with Indoeuropeans, but some mongolo-chinese turkic uralo-altaic yelling has a lot? :ranger



Slavs arent?

I didn't say to you should not post slavic music i thumb up your other posts already but this video doesn't look folk music too much more like modern things mixed

Also Turkics were not mongol or chinese every nation have different elements for example many european nation are mix of paleo european and IE people(west eurasian steppe people)
Turkics are western eurasian steppe and east eurasian steppe people mix so i don't see a problem we can post Turkic musics here

[Rethel]

I didn't say to you should not post slavic music i thumb up your other posts already but this video doesn't look folk music too much more like modern things mixed

Because it is modern folk - about Slavs, what makes it relevant. In addition, it is a kind of satire, like this song "We Poles" which you thumbed up.
"Indoeuropean music" doesn't mean, that it has to be like it was in XIXth century with old women yeeling village songs or 4000 years ago.


Also Turkics were not mongol or chinese


Yes, they are not, but the culture is hugely influenced. If Persians (R1 Indoeuropeans by any means) have a huuuge problem with that, then imagine how much more Turks, who are basically altaic people.


every nation have different elements for example many european nation are mix of paleo european and IE people(west eurasian steppe people)
Turkics are western eurasian steppe and east eurasian steppe people mix so i don't see a problem we can post Turkic musics here

I would agree with you under two conditions:

1. You would have to consider Turks as just altaic-speaking Indoeuropeans and
2. post things which are NOT inspired by mongolian, arabic or chinese influence.

It would be hard, but not impossible to do :)

[Altaylı]

Because it is modern folk - about Slavs, what makes it relevant. In addition, it is a kind of satire, like this song "We Poles" which you thumbed up.
"Indoeuropean music" doesn't mean, that it has to be like it was in XIXth century with old women yeeling village songs or 4000 years ago.




Yes, they are not, but the culture is hugely influenced. If Persians (R1 Indoeuropeans by any means) have a huuuge problem with that, then imagine how much more Turks, who are basically altaic people.



I would agree with you under two conditions:

1. You would have to consider Turks as jast altaic-speaking Indoeuropeans and
2. post things which are NOT inspired by mongolian, arabic or chinese influence.

It would be hard, but not impossible to do :)

Honestly i don't believe Uralo Altaic language theory
Turkic language is family in itself
Ancient Turkics have west eurasian haplogroups autosomally they were eurasian people too

[Rethel]

Ancient Turkics have west eurasian haplogroups autosomally they were eurasian people too

Yes, but all what is known about them, is not older than +/- 500 AD. Even if you put to this Xionghu and Rourans, what is hugely doubtful, it is still too late. Original Turks, from what we can say from lingistic evidence, certainly weren't R1 neither caucasian. I would say, they were certainly mongoloidic people (you can only argue what branch of it was) and most likely one of three options: C or N or Q - the last possible if you disagree with altaic or uralo-altaic thing. So, in conclusion, if Turks known from history are not for you just non-indoeuropean speaking Indoeuropeans, then almost nothing from their culture can be representative for R1/Indoeuropean people (if was not clearly inherited from scythian, tocharian, persian, anatolian aso substrate).

[Edgü]

Yes, but all what is known about them, is not older than +/- 500 AD. Even if you put to this Xionghu and Rourans, what is hugely doubtful, it is still too late. Original Turks, from what we can say from lingistic evidence, certainly weren't R1 neither caucasian. I would say, they were certainly mongoloidic people (you can only argue what branch of it was) and most likely one if three options: C or N or Q - the last possible if you disagree with altaic or uralo-altaic thing. So, in conclusion, if Turks known from history are not for you just non-indoeuropean speaking Indoeuropeans, then almost nothing from their culture can be representative for R1/Indoeuropeans people (if was not clearly inherited from scythian, tocharian, persian, anatolian aso substrate).

Why there are no Indoeurbeans with P1 and P* ?

[Altaylı]

Yes, but all what is known about them, is not older than +/- 500 AD. Even if you put to this Xionghu and Rourans, what is hugely doubtful, it is still too late. Original Turks, from what we can say from lingistic evidence, certainly weren't R1 neither caucasian. I would say, they were certainly mongoloidic people (you can only argue what branch of it was) and most likely one of three options: C or N or Q - the last possible if you disagree with altaic or uralo-altaic thing. So, in conclusion, if Turks known from history are not for you just non-indoeuropean speaking Indoeuropeans, then almost nothing from their culture can be representative for R1/Indoeuropean people (if was not clearly inherited from scythian, tocharian, persian, anatolian aso substrate).

If Turks and mongols are same people then how these people seperated from eachother why they are not speaking one language? Why they are not one nation?
Turks are steppe people like Scythians
Afanasievo were proto Turks according to us:
Distance to: Afanasievo_Mixed
0.05811461 Tatar_Siberian
0.07453513 Tubalar
0.07723235 Bashkir
0.07892836 Nogai
0.08123101 Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
0.08523355 Karakalpak
0.09129603 Shor_Mountain
0.09229878 Uygur
0.09366362 Shor
0.09487153 Shor_Khakassia
0.09487226 Hazara_Afghanistan
0.09598066 Hazara
0.10125404 Uzbek
0.10396218 Kazakh
0.10946356 Yukagir_Forest

[Rethel]

Why there are no Indoeurbeans with P1 and P* ?

Because Indoeuropeans are R1. Period.
At best just R - but you can argue that.

P seems to be paleosyberian thing.

[Edgü]

Because Indoeuropeans are R1. Period.
At best just R - but you can argue that.

P seems to be paleosyberian thing.

It's an ANE thing and Turkics do have P1 and P*

[Rethel]

If Turks and mongols are same people then how these people seperated ftom eachother why they are not speaking one language? Why they are not one nation?

Why should they? In such case there shouldn't be separate
turkic nations like Yakuts, Uzbeks and Gaugasians for example.
I do not say, Turks and Mongols are the same for sure, I can
only say, they could be, because such theory exists. That's all.


Afanasievo were proto Turks according to us:
Distance to: Afanasievo_Mixed
0.05811461 Tatar_Siberian
0.07453513 Tubalar
0.07723235 Bashkir
0.07892836 Nogai
0.08123101 Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
0.08523355 Karakalpak
0.09129603 Shor_Mountain
0.09229878 Uygur
0.09366362 Shor
0.09487153 Shor_Khakassia
0.09487226 Hazara_Afghanistan
0.09598066 Hazara
0.10125404 Uzbek
0.10396218 Kazakh
0.10946356 Yukagir_Forest

You confuse deep past with present day.
If Turks would breed with negro women from Kush instead of indoeuropean
chiks from the Steppe, would it mean, that Meroe Nubia was a turkic kingdom?

[Rethel]

It's an ANE thing

ANE is fictional.
It is castizo-like mixes of EHG and AmInd autosomal.


and Turkics do have P1 and P*

Yes, but at present day, to my knowledge, it seems be more paleosyberian than turkic.
If you would abolish definitely uraloaltaicness and altaicness of Turks and exclude amerindian option,
then I would theoretically consider P as Turkic, but I don't see this to be possible today. Maybe in the
future, but because of lack of any historical records from deep past, it probably will be impossible, but who knows.

[Altaylı]

Why should they? In such case there shouldn't be separate
Because if Turks were mongoloids then Turks and mongols can't seperate from eachother (they lived in same regions and same states this is why) but mongols and Turks are different so Turks were mot mongoloid


You confuse deep past with present day.
If Turks would breed with negro women from Kush insted of Indoeuropean, would it mean, that Meroe Nubia was a turkic kingdom?
I said before every nation have different elements many europeans today mix of paleo europeans and steppe people Turks were mix of steppe people and east eurasian people also Turks were not just west eurasian from maternal side early medieval Turks care west eurasian y DNA so their paternal side can be west eurasian

[IndoEuropeanR1b]

Why there are no Indoeurbeans with P1 and P* ?

They are all R1a and R1b.

[Rethel]

Because if Turks were mongoloids then Turks and mongols can't seperate from eachother (they lived in same regions and same states this is why) but mongols and Turks are different so Turks were mot mongoloid

You are talking at best about XII century. It doesn't count.
And Turkic people are still mongoloid. look at Yakuts, Kazakhs, Dołgans, Tatars, whatever.
Every single turkic ethnicity has mongoloid admixture. Even anatolian Turks.
Originaly were mongoloids. I do not want to disscuss were they in one group with Mongols or not, because
noone can say it for sure, as we know nothing about Turks before V-VIth century and Mongols before X-XIIth.


I said before every nation have different elements many europeans today mix of paleo europeans and steppe people Turks were mix of steppe people and east eurasian people also Turks were not just west eurasian from maternal side early medieval Turks care west eurasian y DNA so their paternal side can be west eurasian

So everybody can be anybody. It's pointless.

[Altaylı]

You are talking at best about XII century. It doesn't count.
And Turkic people are still mongoloid. look at Yakuts, Kazakhs, Dołgans, Tatars, whatever.
Every single turkic ethnicity has mongoloid admixture. Even anatolian Turks.
Originaly were mongoloids. I do not want to disscuss were they in one group with Mongols or not, because
noone can say it for sure, as we know nothing about Turks before V-VIth century and Mongols before X-XIIth.



So everybody can be anybody. It's pointless.


You are talking at best about XII century. It doesn't count.
I am not talking about XII century i am talking about Xiongnu era xiongu was a Turko mongol state my question is how Turks and mongols seperated from each other(if Turks were mongoloid then they can't seperate from each other) when xiongnu collapsed?

Turkic people already have mongoloid admixture they were eurasian 50/50
Having mongoloid admixture does not mean our ancestors(Turks) were 100% mongoloid in the past.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRa-W2DpxidWazmsLzyFl5ZvdyIesiS9Wd5kw&usqp=CAU

[викторслава]

https://youtu.be/F1HFZwlGr2k

[викторслава]

https://youtu.be/fZiZ1fXm-j0
https://youtu.be/0sC6ZJahgZw
https://youtu.be/3NwDaVnXRf4
https://youtu.be/vuWTMwet8bI
https://youtu.be/LB3zDAxbwCs

[Rethel]

I am not talking about XII century i am talking about Xiongnu era xiongu was a Turko mongol

It is an assumption. Could be yenisayan as well, or whatever.


state my question is how Turks and mongols seperated from each other(if Turks were mongoloid then they can't seperate from each other) when xiongnu collapsed?

Ok, so I do not understand this question.
Why can't separate?


Turkic people already have mongoloid admixture they were eurasian 50/50

But this still werent original Turks. Even 200 BC it is too late.


Having mongoloid admixture does not mean our ancestors(Turks) were 100% mongoloid in the past.

Do you want to suggest, that Yakuts, Dołgans, Kazakhs, Salars
Yugurs, Toflars, Kirgizes, aso have only a mongoloid admixture?

[Peterski]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJa2kwoZ2a4

^^^
Better than the Polish R1a version: :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNfeMbO_AHo

[Altaylı]

Ok, so I do not understand this question.
Why can't separate?

Because if Turks were mongoloid then Mongols and Turks must be same nation because they lived in same state (Xiongnu) this is why but they are totally different genetically and linguisticaly


But this still werent original Turks. Even 200 BC it is too late.

What about Afanasievo?
Distance to: Afanasievo_Mixed
0.05811461 Tatar_Siberian
0.07453513 Tubalar
0.07723235 Bashkir
0.07892836 Nogai
0.08123101 Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
0.08523355 Karakalpak
0.09129603 Shor_Mountain
0.09229878 Uygur
0.09366362 Shor
0.09487153 Shor_Khakassia
0.09487226 Hazara_Afghanistan
0.09598066 Hazara
0.10125404 Uzbek
0.10396218 Kazakh
0.10946356 Yukagir_Forest


Do you want to suggest, that Yakuts, Dołgans, Kazakhs, Salars
Yugurs, Toflars, Kirgizes, aso have only a mongoloid admixture

Modern Turkics are all semi Mongoloid they have all euro admixture except yugurs and yakuts(actually even they have euro admixture but not much like other Turkics) yugurs are heavily mixed with han, yakuts are heavily mixed with tungusics

[Rethel]

Because if Turks were mongoloid then Mongols and Turks must be same nation because they lived in same state (Xiongnu) this is why but they are totally different genetically and linguisticaly

Ok, and?


What about Afanasievo?

I allready explained it.


Modern Turkics are all semi Mongoloid they have all euro admixture except yugurs and yakuts(actually even they have euro admixture but not much like other Turkics) yugurs are heavily mixed with han, yakuts are heavily mixed with tungusics

Euro admixture proofs, that they were mongoloid at the beginning.
Otherwise, it wouldn;t be an admixture. And it has many sources:
Russians, Poles, Vlachs, Greeks, Anatolians, Scythians, Tocharians...

[Rethel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPaDqhSHqw0

[Peterski]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p96pdqxxu_4

Columbus was R1a?

[Rethel]

Columbus was R1a?

EDIT: ok, to not confuse people, I change it.

[Rethel]

I tried, but this thread seems to be too tight for me.

I made more accurate: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?344468-Indoeuropean-music-Just-like-that!&p=7153657#post7153657

[PaulieVanZant]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJMNkoRJnSw

[Altaylı]

Ok, and?



I allready explained it.



Euro admixture proofs, that they were mongoloid at the beginning.
Otherwise, it wouldn;t be an admixture. And it has many sources:
Russians, Poles, Vlachs, Greeks, Anatolians, Scythians, Tocharians...

I allready explained it.
You don't explained anything.
Sorry bro but Your answers are very stupid you can't understand


Euro admixture proofs, that they were mongoloid at the beginning.
Otherwise,
It doesn't proof anything Also mongoloid is an admixture

Really do you believe this '' an alpha mongolian man assimilated all indo europeans and invaded west''

[MercifulServant]

https://www.bitchute.com/video/QEZKwD754bBp/

[Kyp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8OtzJtp-EM

[Arūnas]

https://youtu.be/5N26NTU0bVU

[Faklon]

Yaguar=Steppe Horse


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOzkN8dHnjk&ab_channel=%D0%9C%D1%83%D0%B7%D1%8B%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0 %BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B B%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%9F%D0%B5%D1%82% D1%80%D0%B0%D0%9D%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B0

Lost and forgotten=away from the Steppe


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFEwKjpDD2c&ab_channel=EurovisionSongContest