What is this genetic group in MyHeritage?

[knez01]

I got this on low confidence level: https://imgur.com/a/mAMtyBG

[CommonSense]

That makes no sense. I don't see what's the connection between South Italy and Poland. Either way, if it's low confidence it can be disregarded.

[RicoSuave]

I think Arbëreshë

[Figaro]

Lol, you’re right, that is kind of goofy..

[RicoSuave]

Lol, you’re right, that is kind of goofy..

If you know history it make sense, there can be multiple links for this two nations but having Arbëreshë-like dna is most common scenario when Polish nobility are partially genetically Arbëreshë-like opposed to the more recent Muslim Albanians who are usually not Arbëreshë-like genetically and speak a different dialect of Albanian with stronger Ottoman Turkish loanwords.

[knez01]

That makes no sense. I don't see what's the connection between South Italy and Poland. Either way, if it's low confidence it can be disregarded.

I don't agree, because I get Dalmatia on low confidence and I am Dalmatian, so if I disregard South Italy and Poland I disregard Dalmatia too.
https://imgur.com/a/vaE2GFS

[knez01]

If you know history it make sense, there can be multiple links for this two nations but having Arbëreshë-like dna is most common scenario when Polish nobility are partially genetically Arbëreshë-like opposed to the more recent Muslim Albanians who are usually not Arbëreshë-like genetically and speak a different dialect of Albanian with stronger Ottoman Turkish loanwords.

If that is the case, then I could have some Arbanasi relatives who are probably related to Albanians from South Italy, right? The Italian heritage I have is probably mixed with Arbanasi, which is usually the case in Dalmatia. That's where the Genetic group could come from in my case I think, but still, I don't understand why they add Poland into the mix, because I have no Polish ancestry.

[Peterski]

https://i.imgur.com/qL7Glli.png

Probably mafia connections... :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18prsUhCG0M

[vbnetkhio]

I got this on low confidence level: https://imgur.com/a/mAMtyBG

as I said in another thread, it's obviously people from the USA with both Italian and Polish ancestry, and enough of such people tested on MyHeritage to get singled out as their own group.
You match them trough the Italian side obviously. Some sharing with the Polish side is possible too because of common Slavic origins, but probably not, MyHeritage seems to filter out such old segments from what i've seen.

did you get any Polish communities on 23andme?

[knez01]

as I said in another thread, it's obviously people from the USA with both Italian and Polish ancestry, and enough of such people tested on MyHeritage to get singled out as their own group.
You match them trough the Italian side obviously. Some sharing with the Polish side is possible too because of common Slavic origins, but probably not, MyHeritage seems to filter out such old segments from what i've seen.

did you get any Polish communities on 23andme?

Aha, thanks, this is what I get on 23andme : https://imgur.com/a/XiYSHU7

[vbnetkhio]

Aha, thanks, this is what I get on 23andme : https://imgur.com/a/XiYSHU7

thanks, earlier almost all South Slavs used to get eastern Polish regions on 23andme, I guess now they've filtered that out in the newer versions.

[Figaro]

If you know history it make sense, there can be multiple links for this two nations but having Arbëreshë-like dna is most common scenario when Polish nobility are partially genetically Arbëreshë-like opposed to the more recent Muslim Albanians who are usually not Arbëreshë-like genetically and speak a different dialect of Albanian with stronger Ottoman Turkish loanwords.

Ignoring the mild condescension here, how are Polish Szlachta Abereshe-like in particular? I’m not sure what you’re getting at. Referring to partial AJ admix with the Slavic (Med+Northern Slav)?

Note: Albanians are not Slavs ethnolinguistically, but have significant Slav admix.

[Vasilious]

I think this is not accurate? I got also my update and showing me Albanians..
https://i.imgur.com/SflpedG.png

[RicoSuave]

If that is the case, then I could have some Arbanasi relatives who are probably related to Albanians from South Italy, right? The Italian heritage I have is probably mixed with Arbanasi, which is usually the case in Dalmatia. That's where the Genetic group could come from in my case I think, but still, I don't understand why they add Poland into the mix, because I have no Polish ancestry.

I think mixture as you said Arbanasi-Italian, the Poland is combined specifically with Italian because you have that Arbanasi-Italian, plus I would call it Antes concentrated slav admix (Bosnian, Moldovan, Ukrainian, etc) more isolate strain, opposed to what is more common in your region Sclaveni concentrated slav admix (Slovenian, Austrian, East German, etc) that is more common for your countrymen with strong Austrian Empire roots opposed to what you got.

Do you often get Moldova in single populations?

[RicoSuave]

Ignoring the mild condescension here, how are Polish Szlachta Abereshe-like in particular? I’m not sure what you’re getting at. Referring to partial AJ admix with the Slavic (Med+Northern Slav)?

Note: Albanians are not Slavs ethnolinguistically, but have significant Slav admix.

There is different types of Polish people, from Southeast mountains they are Balkan (Vlach) going back until the 14th century when Moldavia and Poland was unified under Władysław II Jagiełło.


Southeast Polish:

Target: Polish:S_Polish-1
Distance: 1.6011% / 0.01601099 | ADC: 0.5x RC
60.0 Albanian
40.0 Baltic_EST_BA

Moldovan Outlier:

Target: Moldovan_o:Moldovan_V46055
Distance: 1.3617% / 0.01361681 | ADC: 0.5x RC
59.2 Albanian
34.4 Baltic_EST_BA
6.4 Turkmen

Polish (Unspecified):

Target: Polish:Polish23
Distance: 1.5278% / 0.01527838 | ADC: 0.5x RC
58.2 Baltic_EST_BA
32.0 Albanian
9.8 Roma_Balkans

Ukrainian:

Target: RicoSuave
Distance: 1.6935% / 0.01693543 | ADC: 0.5x RC
47.6 Albanian
47.0 Baltic_EST_BA
5.4 Turkmen

[knez01]

I think mixture as you said Arbanasi-Italian, the Poland is combined specifically with Italian because you have that Arbanasi-Italian, plus I would call it Antes concentrated slav admix (Bosnian, Moldovan, Ukrainian, etc) more isolate strain, opposed to what is more common in your region Sclaveni concentrated slav admix (Slovenian, Austrian, East German, etc) that is more common for your countrymen with strong Austrian Empire roots opposed to what you got.

Do you often get Moldova in single populations?

I get Moldova as the first population on Eurogenes K13.