View Full Version : Poll : Do Iberians have minor SSA admixture?
Scandal
03-26-2021, 07:30 PM
Vote and discuss please.
Alexandro
03-26-2021, 07:33 PM
Yes, because we are, in fact, a black people.
Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
03-26-2021, 07:35 PM
The average Iberian is 0%-3% Sub Saharan at most with a few outlying samples. There's some variation from individual to individual but mostly from region to region. So the answer is "yes" but it doesn't necessarily apply to everybody on the same range.
mitalit
03-26-2021, 07:35 PM
Yes, but not all Iberians and it has its peak in the west.
There is also the theory that the Iberomaurusian is half ssa. In that case all iberians have except the Basques and some places in the Pyrenees.
Scandal
03-26-2021, 07:36 PM
The average Iberian is 0%-3% Sub Saharan at most with a few outlying samples. There's some variation from individual to individual but mostly from region to region.
Why do some individuals have 0, and why do others have 2 or 3%? People with 2-3% could be mixed with something?
chinshen
03-26-2021, 07:39 PM
Generally no, maybe few individuals who are of mixed ancestry.
Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
03-26-2021, 07:40 PM
Why do some individuals have 0, and why do others have 2 or 3%? People with 2-3% could be mixed with something?
It has to do with the Reconquista movements, which regions were under Moorish occupation for longer, where the Sephardi communities were mostly spread out and also likely has something to do with the slave trade period. On the other hand, there are pre-Roman Iberian samples with similar SSA levels as there is nowadays so who knows. Possible a combination of a multitude of events.
It is not like there's a specific answer. I could also ask why some Hungarians have more of a certain component while others do not and it will be hard to pin-point a justification.
gixajo
03-26-2021, 07:40 PM
Why do some individuals have 0, and why do others have 2 or 3%? People with 2-3% could be mixed with something?
Probably with another Iberian individual that has SSA.:coffee:
In my case I have 0% SSA in k13, and both my father and my mother show about 1%.;)
And my mother form Southern Basque COuntry slighty has more than my father from Andalusia...:shrug:
In no commercial company results do any of us have anything from SSA.
So I don't know whether to take that 0-1% SSA in K13 very seriously, like a real SSA mix or just a way to be modeled with those 13 components.
And if it's real, I'm not going to cry about it either.:D
Hamilcar
03-26-2021, 07:43 PM
it shouldn't even be a question :
According to our GW data, Iberians, including southern autochthonous people, are mainly mixing outcomes of ancient settlers in the Peninsula, represented by the Basques and northwestern Europeans, with a reduced contribution of Maghreb and Near East as well as a minor component of sub-Saharan people.
https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/37/4/1041/5670533#201241738
A gradient of shared IBD segments is observed from southern to northern Europe (based on WEA; Fig. 2 and SI Appendix, Table S3). This sharing is highest in the Iberian Peninsula for both North Africa and Sub-Saharan African IBD segments.
Lastly, three recent studies highlight the possibility of genetic exchange between Europe and Africa. Moorjani et al. (9) estimated that about 1–3% of recent Sub-Saharan African ancestry is present in multiple southern European populations; Cerezo et al. (23) find evidence of older (11,000 ya) Sub-Saharan gene flow toward Europe based on mtDNA genomes; and Auton et al. (8) found that short haplotypes were shared between the Yoruban Nigerians and southwestern Europeans.
https://i.imgur.com/7ALoX60.png
https://www.pnas.org/content/110/29/11791
Cernunnos
03-26-2021, 07:45 PM
Yes, but it depends on the individual.
I suspect most people with significant SSA (0,5%+) are from the coastal regions, in particular from southern and central coastal regions.
gixajo
03-26-2021, 07:50 PM
it shouldn't even be a question :
l]
:icon_yes:
This is all from the basic course in TA genetics, anyone who has been participating in TA for two weeks should already know it.
Defcon2
03-26-2021, 07:52 PM
In autosomal I usually obtain between 1-3% of SSA depending on the calculator or test, apart from this there is my Y-DNA which is closely related to Sub-Saharan populations, most likely yes.
Cernunnos
03-26-2021, 07:54 PM
Why do some individuals have 0, and why do others have 2 or 3%? People with 2-3% could be mixed with something?
The first slave ship with africans that was brought to Europe was in 1444 and it arrived in Lagos, Algarve.
There were cities in Portugal like Evora or Lisbon where the black slave population could have reached percentages like 10%, but you have to know that in the cases for black slaves many had a very little life expectancy, they were very segregated in Portuguese society.
Even in places like Brazil, you see the case where like 5 million Black Slaves arrived to the country and even the regions who were not touched/barely touched by subsequent massive european immigration in the 19th century and 20th century, (virtualy anystate outside the south and southeast brazil) are mostly european geneticaly (55-70% depending on the region).
Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
03-26-2021, 07:55 PM
So I don't know whether to take that 0-1% SSA in K13 very seriously, like a real SSA mix or just a way to be modeled with those 13 components.
And if it's real, I'm not going to cry about it either.:D
On K13 I score 0.43% SSA but for some reason this tiny portion is always the one that sparks the most interest on TA regarding Iberians.
Jaromir
03-26-2021, 08:07 PM
of course.... "minor"
Cernunnos
03-26-2021, 08:12 PM
I'm 0,06% SSA on K13.
I'm 0,15% SSA on K15.
Gallop
03-26-2021, 08:17 PM
Many aspects do not fit in this topic due to number and time.
Axios
03-26-2021, 08:18 PM
I've seen some spaniard samples on G25, Gedmatch etc they usually score 5% north african, i dont exactly remember them having SSA, maybe i saw one that had 1,3% but that's it. Some definitely have, it is not the average tho. 0-3% max id say.
EDIT: Ok i realized this is another dumb thread war between Universe and CV.
Petalpusher
03-26-2021, 08:21 PM
Vote and discuss please.
https://i.postimg.cc/XqgM4Q5b/tenffffdor.gif
It begins ;)
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?344453-Do-Hungarians-have-minor-SSA-blood
Tenma de Pegasus
03-26-2021, 08:30 PM
Yes, but Im not sure if its exactly SSA, its instead some shared ancient atlantic ancestry with old Morroco and the old people of Canary Islands.
0.5/1/1.5/2% probably
I don't have any SSA on K13 but I have 1% Oceanian and 1% North African.
Damião de Góis
03-26-2021, 08:35 PM
I do. No idea where it comes from and it can be seen here for example (i'm the last one). On k13 and k15 i also score 1.X%.
https://i.imgur.com/152VYDk.png
And ironically i'm lighter than average.
Tutankhamun
03-26-2021, 08:35 PM
The first slave ship with africans that was brought to Europe was in 1444 and it arrived in Lagos, Algarve.
There were cities in Portugal like Evora or Lisbon where the black slave population could have reached percentages like 10%, but you have to know that in the cases for black slaves many had a very little life expectancy, they were very segregated in Portuguese society.
Even in places like Brazil, you see the case where like 5 million Black Slaves arrived to the country and even the regions who were not touched/barely touched by subsequent massive european immigration in the 19th century and 20th century, (virtualy anystate outside the south and southeast brazil) are mostly european geneticaly (55-70% depending on the region).
In fact, there were 4 million slaves. And you are right most of the slaves were men who died young without leaving children, so much so that most of the SSA of Brazilians came from black women who related to Portuguese, which explains the fact that blacks in Brazil are on average 30%, 40% European in their DNA.
What about the the thread, SSA in Iberians hardly exceeds 1%.
Tenma de Pegasus
03-26-2021, 08:48 PM
In fact, there were 4 million slaves. And you are right most of the slaves were men who died young without leaving children, so much so that most of the SSA of Brazilians came from black women who related to Portuguese, which explains the fact that blacks in Brazil are on average 30%, 40% European in their DNA.
What about the the thread, SSA in Iberians hardly exceeds 1%.
I mostly agree with both comments
3-4 milion slaves arrived to Brazil on both colonial and postcolonial times, most of them arrived after our independance and they are responsible for around 19% of the blood of the average brazilian. Among black brazilians, the africans contributed with 40-45% of their gene pool. And the main contributers were by far the african ladies, their men died with only 4 years after arrive in Brazil and mostly with 16/17 years old and these sad guys left very few decendants.
At the other side, 6 milion europeans arrived on Brazil in both colonial and post colonial times and all together are responsible for around 70% of the average brazilian gene pool. These people had the largest reprodution rates and much higher probably of survival, thats why their impact is larger.
I really really doubt africans arriving in 1444 in Europe left any impact among iberians, I believe if they have any, this 0 0.5/1/1.5% is mostly some old Atlantic ancestry shared with Mirroco and Canary Islands. Not exactly SSA, more like canarian.
5 milion africans is some exageration of the Lula period and its influence among our radical left.
Parça do Neymar
03-26-2021, 09:23 PM
Iberians do have a minor SSA or SSA-like admixture, this shouldn't even be a question. I wonder how much of it is recent and how much is from an ancient North African / Iberomaurusian-like source, it seems to peak around coastal areas (i.e. likely settlement areas).
FinalFlash
03-26-2021, 09:24 PM
Italicroots must be loving this thread.
Flashball
03-26-2021, 09:33 PM
The average Iberian is 0%-3% Sub Saharan at most with a few outlying samples. There's some variation from individual to individual but mostly from region to region. So the answer is "yes" but it doesn't necessarily apply to everybody on the same range.
What spaniard (because iberians are another thing: pre-spaniard population) don't have North African and Subsaharian at all? I means 0% and put the Basques aside, I'm talking about the non-Basques.
Scandal
03-27-2021, 08:25 AM
I don't have any SSA on K13 but I have 1% Oceanian and 1% North African.
Some people call that north african, but it's northeast african which is a mulatto somali-like component.
Diego Garcia
03-27-2021, 08:42 AM
I wouldn't say minor but major admixture. We Spaniards are mainly black, like Kunta Kinte, more or less.
mitalit
03-27-2021, 04:33 PM
I don't have any SSA on K13 but I have 1% Oceanian and 1% North African.
In my case I have 1,37 northeast africa and 0,87 oceania. But it is not that the k13 is the panacea
IndoEuropeanR1b
03-27-2021, 04:50 PM
Surprisingly, seems to be that Spaniards are the only ones voting 'No'. They have a small amount of SSA and a decent E1b1a frequency.
Yes. I get 1.02 SSA on K13, and my official G25 shows 1% Dinka.
All the Iberians? Thought Basque and Franco-Cantabrian Basque-like people lack of African admixture.
LorenzoSpitaleri
03-27-2021, 05:48 PM
I think it's usually north african or guanche in origin not ssa
Scandal
03-27-2021, 05:49 PM
Yes. I get 1.02 SSA on K13, and my official G25 shows 1% Dinka.
You also scored 5.6% Taforalt, which seems to be 1/3 SSA according to my estimates
Target: MAR_Taforalt
Distance: 27.9889% / 0.27988876
56.8 Levant_PPNB
24.8 Dinka
12.4 Gambian
6.0 Jarawa
Gallop
03-27-2021, 05:55 PM
Slavery was abolished in Spain in 1837 and photography was invented in 1860. If we wanted to attribute it to this period, I do not see that the freed slaves would have time to enter Spanish society and contribute to the gene pool, there is no time and they would be in our family albums, so this period would be limited to particular cases.
If we go to a more archaic time I think they relied on several skulls with mitochondrial haplogroup L and ivory, amber and ostrich eggs. I believe that it was here where the operation to find this SSA was already directed and for that reason Richer went for biologicals samples to the Hospital of Huelva where they already knew that there would be some patient mixed with descendants of slaves from Gibraleón and some other town, and he found it and it was attributed to the whole population.
Al Andalus would be left, I don't see any number or time either when an attempt is made to justify that SSA to that historical period.
Also here I don't see the number and time for it to happen either, this is almost the day before yesterday and also taking into account the Moorish who genetically would be Iberians
https://ruidera.uclm.es/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10578/3104/Los%20moriscos%20que%20se%20quedaron.pdf?sequence= 1
Absence of mixed marriages. In this group, it is noteworthy that there are practically no mixed marriages, which can be explained by the desire to
This can be explained by the desire to systematically reinforce the strong pillars that united the group, as well as to avoid
the strong pillars that united the group, as well as to avoid the intrusion of outsiders into those family
of outsiders in those family units that were not too orthodox in religious and cultural terms.
cultural. The Portuguese Marranos did not act in any other way around the same time.
There were exceptions, although few.
The omnipresent endogamy. Such was the importance of consanguineous marriage within this group of people
within this group of people, that it deserves to be dealt with in some detail.
The same thing that happened with the Judeo-converts in their first generations and with the Portuguese Marranos of the 17th century.
Portuguese Marranos of the 17th century, the Moriscos who stayed behind practiced consanguineous
marriage by blood, in many occasions to unsuspected levels. It was logical,
as it was a way of preserving their collective identity, while for certain sectors it was a vital guarantee in the
for certain sectors it was a vital guarantee in the delicate game of keeping their more or less heretical condition hidden.
more or less heretical.
Defcon2
03-27-2021, 06:28 PM
You also scored 5.6% Taforalt, which seems to be 1/3 SSA according to my estimates
Target: MAR_Taforalt
Distance: 27.9889% / 0.27988876
56.8 Levant_PPNB
24.8 Dinka
12.4 Gambian
6.0 Jarawa
Are you implying that he has a 3% SSA? :D
Scandal
03-27-2021, 06:47 PM
Are you implying that he has a 3% SSA? :D
It's not my opinion, but G25 calculator itself indicates that. Try running the taforalt sample through "Davidski standard G25 calculator". It's obv partially SSA.
https://i.imgur.com/iil7v0T.jpg
Btw, he is between 2.5 and 3% SSA on Eurogenes k13 as well, because he has almost 4% "Northeast_african" which is half a SSA component.
Yes, but very negligent. 2-3% maximum and that for a few people. Because the average is close to 0%.
Defcon2
03-27-2021, 07:03 PM
It's not my opinion, but G25 calculator itself indicates that. Try running the taforalt sample through "Davidski standard G25 calculator". It's obv partially SSA.
https://i.imgur.com/iil7v0T.jpg
Btw, he is between 2.5 and 3% SSA on Eurogenes k13 as well, because he has almost 4% "Northeast_african" which is half a SSA component.
The highest percentage of SSA is located in the south of Portugal with 1.23%.
There are Moroccans with 6% SSA, don't troll me that a complete Iberian like Luso gets 3%.
https://i.imgur.com/R2LWu1t.jpg
Gallop
03-27-2021, 07:03 PM
THE BLACK GERMANS AND THE BLACK DUTCH – AFRICAN GENES IN GERMANIA
BLACK DUTCH
By Mike Nassau
Schwarze Deutsche or Black Germans, found along the Danube River in Austria and Germany, in the Black Forest and, to a lesser extent, along the Rhine River, have dark hair and eyes, unlike the fairer people both north and south of them. Their descendants in America may be called either Black Dutch or Black German.
The origin of their dark coloration is ancient, from the Roman army in the third and fourth centuries, C.E. The Roman army of this time period was mostly made up of German mercenary soldiers, but along the German border, the Romans preferred to station non-Germans. The army on the Danube was largely drawn from Numidian and Nubian soldiers, especially Garamante Numidians.
The Garamante (called Tubu now) were Black Africans from the central Sahara. Now the Tubu live in northern Chad, eastern Niger and southern Libya. They are not usually found north of Marzuk in Fezzan or Kufra in Cyrenaica now, but in Roman times they ranged north to the central coast of Libya and to Ghadames in southern Tunisia.
As well as Garamante, there were some Iranic people stationed on this frontier, especially Sarmatians (called Ossets now) and Scythians (Ashkenazi in the Hebrew Bible) from southern Russia and the Ukraine (Ashkenaz, the old Hebrew for Scythia, has been used for Germany in modern Hebrew by Ashkenazic Jews trying to ingratiate themselves with Germans and Austrians or trying to hide their Khazar ancestry).
These African and Iranic soldiers left many descendants who tend to have black, heavy hair and dark eyes even yet. Beethoven and Hitler are two famous examples of this group (Peanuts).
It is interesting to imagine Hitler’s reaction to someone telling him he probably got his heavy, black hair from Black African ancestry. Since this was so long ago, with population movement and inter-marriage, all Europeans must have some ancestry from these Black African soldiers.
In sixty generations, a person could leave 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 descendants with just two children per person each generation so long as no descendants married each other. Obviously, after a time, many descendants will marry each other, but still it works out statistically that most people from that long ago who left descendants at all are ancestors of everyone in Europe today.
The tendency for people to stay in their own community explains why we can see the effects along the Danube and in the Black Forest in the people with black hair and dark eyes but do not see it far away like Iceland. The concentration is far greater at the point of origin, but the dispersion radiates out to everywhere given enough time.
By Mike Nassau
A quote by Benjamin Franklin one of America’s “founding fathers” on Germans and Saxons:
“Why should the Palatine boors [the Germans] be suffered to swarm into our settlements, and by herding together establish their language and manners to the exclusion of ours? Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a colony of aliens, who will soon be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our anglifying them, and will never adopt our language or customs, any more than they can acquire our complexion.
Which leads me to one remark: That the number of purely white people in the world is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawney. And in Europe the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes are generally of what we call a swarthy complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only being excepted, who with the English make up the principal body of white people on the face of the earth. I could wish their numbers increased. While we are scouring our planet by clearing America of woods, and so making our side of the planet reflect a brighter light to the inhabitants of Mars or Venus, why should we in the sight of superior beings darken its people? Why increase the sons of Africa by planting them in America, where we have an opportunity, by excluding all blacks and tawneys, of increasing the lovely white and red.”
https://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/black-germansblack-dutch-african-genes-in-germania/?fbclid=IwAR2CM5J6_OcC2KNVl9qTNyMvzIR0P17JhDol1znc _Hha5CoA6qyyBZ-kYOE
It is somewhat hilarious in its final conclusions but that is not the point of the article.
Are you searching well or do you only find in the Iberian Peninsula?
Scandal
03-27-2021, 07:10 PM
The highest percentage of SSA is located in the south of Portugal with 1.23%.
There are Moroccans with 6% SSA, don't troll me that a complete Iberian like Luso gets 3%.
https://i.imgur.com/R2LWu1t.jpg
I'm not trolling. As I said, it's G25 that shows he's between 2.5% and 3% SSA.
http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/Global-standard.htm
Copy taforalt sample and paste it to target, then delete taforalt from the source, then go to single and run it. You will see it's 1/3 SSA (or a bit more)
Petalpusher
03-27-2021, 07:14 PM
The highest percentage of SSA is located in the south of Portugal with 1.23%.
There are Moroccans with 6% SSA, don't troll me that a complete Iberian like Luso gets 3%.
https://i.imgur.com/R2LWu1t.jpg
Only if you dismiss the fact they score NA too. Do you really believe Tunisians are 0.04% SSA?...Who would believe that, nobody, like everybody around has some and they dodged all of it, it would make no sense. No all their SSA is in their 93% NA, as they are the reference for NA in this run. It's about 20% SSA.
Are you searching well or do you only find in the Iberian Peninsula?
He is trolling even though he knew what the reaction would be like.
Gallop
03-27-2021, 07:27 PM
He is trolling even though he knew what the reaction would be like.
He does not have that ability in fact against Spain no one does.
You can always take advantage of these free threads to upload something meaningful.
Defcon2
03-27-2021, 07:43 PM
I'm not trolling. As I said, it's G25 that shows he's between 2.5% and 3% SSA.
http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/Global-standard.htm
Copy taforalt sample and paste it to target, then delete taforalt from the source, then go to single and run it. You will see it's 1/3 SSA (or a bit more)
Neither G25 nor Vahaduo are reference at all, I prefer to believe in scientists using scientific methods.
Only if you dismiss the fact they score NA too. Do you really believe Tunisians are 0.04% SSA?...Who would believe that, nobody, like everybody around has some and they dodged all of it, it would make no sense. No all their SSA is in their 93% NA, as they are the reference for NA in this run. It's about 20% SSA.
No idea, tell the scientists of that study.
Scandal
03-27-2021, 07:44 PM
He is trolling
Nope.
Nope.
Come on, you're a smart guy and has been on TA for 3 years. You knew damn well what the answer would be, yet you created this thread and it obviously triggered a certain fucker who I never quote or interact with. You did not take heed of my advice when I told you privately to fucking close it. Anyone who is into genetics and the calculators knows that usually it's enough to take a look at the spreadsheet and maybe run some models using public data.
Petalpusher
03-27-2021, 07:55 PM
Neither G25 nor Vahaduo are reference at all, I prefer to believe in scientists using scientific methods.
No idea, tell the scientists of that study.
Tell them what, that some people are gonna pretend to not understand North Africa is made of some SSA? The aren't held reponsible for people trying to twist their datas with such bad faith. They know NA is part SSA and everybody else should too.
Similarly, some people score 100% North Africans on some commercial tests. They are not SSA at all, not even 0.5%? Come on...
It's very much in line with the values found everywhere else. 3% in Portugal is reasonable, specially south. The cline is West and South for NA/SSA.
Mopi The Dire Wolf
03-27-2021, 08:03 PM
THE BLACK GERMANS AND THE BLACK DUTCH – AFRICAN GENES IN GERMANIA
BLACK DUTCH
By Mike Nassau
Schwarze Deutsche or Black Germans, found along the Danube River in Austria and Germany, in the Black Forest and, to a lesser extent, along the Rhine River, have dark hair and eyes, unlike the fairer people both north and south of them. Their descendants in America may be called either Black Dutch or Black German.
The origin of their dark coloration is ancient, from the Roman army in the third and fourth centuries, C.E. The Roman army of this time period was mostly made up of German mercenary soldiers, but along the German border, the Romans preferred to station non-Germans. The army on the Danube was largely drawn from Numidian and Nubian soldiers, especially Garamante Numidians.
The Garamante (called Tubu now) were Black Africans from the central Sahara. Now the Tubu live in northern Chad, eastern Niger and southern Libya. They are not usually found north of Marzuk in Fezzan or Kufra in Cyrenaica now, but in Roman times they ranged north to the central coast of Libya and to Ghadames in southern Tunisia.
As well as Garamante, there were some Iranic people stationed on this frontier, especially Sarmatians (called Ossets now) and Scythians (Ashkenazi in the Hebrew Bible) from southern Russia and the Ukraine (Ashkenaz, the old Hebrew for Scythia, has been used for Germany in modern Hebrew by Ashkenazic Jews trying to ingratiate themselves with Germans and Austrians or trying to hide their Khazar ancestry).
These African and Iranic soldiers left many descendants who tend to have black, heavy hair and dark eyes even yet. Beethoven and Hitler are two famous examples of this group (Peanuts).
It is interesting to imagine Hitler’s reaction to someone telling him he probably got his heavy, black hair from Black African ancestry. Since this was so long ago, with population movement and inter-marriage, all Europeans must have some ancestry from these Black African soldiers.
In sixty generations, a person could leave 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 descendants with just two children per person each generation so long as no descendants married each other. Obviously, after a time, many descendants will marry each other, but still it works out statistically that most people from that long ago who left descendants at all are ancestors of everyone in Europe today.
The tendency for people to stay in their own community explains why we can see the effects along the Danube and in the Black Forest in the people with black hair and dark eyes but do not see it far away like Iceland. The concentration is far greater at the point of origin, but the dispersion radiates out to everywhere given enough time.
By Mike Nassau
A quote by Benjamin Franklin one of America’s “founding fathers” on Germans and Saxons:
“Why should the Palatine boors [the Germans] be suffered to swarm into our settlements, and by herding together establish their language and manners to the exclusion of ours? Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a colony of aliens, who will soon be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our anglifying them, and will never adopt our language or customs, any more than they can acquire our complexion.
Which leads me to one remark: That the number of purely white people in the world is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawney. And in Europe the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes are generally of what we call a swarthy complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only being excepted, who with the English make up the principal body of white people on the face of the earth. I could wish their numbers increased. While we are scouring our planet by clearing America of woods, and so making our side of the planet reflect a brighter light to the inhabitants of Mars or Venus, why should we in the sight of superior beings darken its people? Why increase the sons of Africa by planting them in America, where we have an opportunity, by excluding all blacks and tawneys, of increasing the lovely white and red.”
https://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/black-germansblack-dutch-african-genes-in-germania/?fbclid=IwAR2CM5J6_OcC2KNVl9qTNyMvzIR0P17JhDol1znc _Hha5CoA6qyyBZ-kYOE
It is somewhat hilarious in its final conclusions but that is not the point of the article.
Are you searching well or do you only find in the Iberian Peninsula?
hitler didnt have black hair.
the mainly black and white film of him, makes his hair look alot darker than it actually was
as a child he had light brown hair. as an adult more of a medium to dark brown...certainly not black
his eyes were very clear pale blue...not dark
i wouldn't say he was a "black german" at all tbh
Hamilcar
03-27-2021, 08:03 PM
Only if you dismiss the fact they score NA too. Do you really believe Tunisians are 0.04% SSA?...Who would believe that, nobody, like everybody around has some and they dodged all of it, it would make no sense. No all their SSA is in their 93% NA, as they are the reference for NA in this run. It's about 20% SSA.
none of them score such level of ssa, ANA is not modern west african ancestry when will you understand this ? Moreover even if you want to consider it ssa, most don't reach 20%.
You seem to have a strange obsession with it.
Tell them what, that some people are gonna pretend to not understand North Africa is made of some SSA? The aren't held reponsible for people trying to twist their datas with such bad faith. They know NA is part SSA and everybody else should too.
Similarly, some people score 100% North Africans on some commercial tests. They are not SSA at all, not even 0.5%? Come on...
It's very much in line with the values found everywhere else. 3% in Portugal is reasonable, specially south. The cline is West and South for NA/SSA.
There is Ibero-Maurusian admixture in Iberia and weren't those tribes sort of mulattoid? Some people act like they were just dark-skinned Caucasoids but I think they should've been less Caucasoid than modern Berbers. So it's not exatly direct and recent Sub-Saharan/Negroid blood as in the Americas but it's of African origin nevertheless.
Defcon2
03-27-2021, 08:06 PM
Tell them what, that some people are gonna pretend to not understand North Africa is made of some SSA? The aren't held reponsible for people trying to twist their datas with such bad faith. They know NA is part SSA and everybody else should too.
Similarly, some people score 100% North Africans on some commercial tests. They are not SSA at all, not even 0.5%? Come on...
It's very much in line with the values found everywhere else. 3% in Portugal is reasonable, specially south. The cline is West and South for NA/SSA.
All Moroccans get between 6% and 28% SSA in that table that I published, what are you talking about?
Petalpusher
03-27-2021, 08:08 PM
none of them score such level of ssa, ANA is not modern west african ancestry when will you understand this ? Moreover even if you want to consider it ssa, most don't reach 20%.
You seem to have a strange obsession with it.
It's not ANA, it's just NA in the study posted, so modern indeed.
It's common to play the carpet seller for minoring admixture around here, im used to it. It's not an obsession when every datas point to something, it's those denying it that have one, let's not twist it the other way.
All Moroccans get between 6% and 28% SSA in that table that I published, what are you talking about?
You either have no idea how admixture works, or pretends not to. They score 60 to 80% NA which is where the most of the SSA is. To even begin to imagine Morocco north has only 5.9% SSA is hilarious or again Tunisians have 0.04%...
Rafael Passoni
03-27-2021, 08:09 PM
What I need to do if I want to know how much SSA I inheired? Do I need to purchase my G25 coordinates? I'm very curious.
I dont think but what :mad: my is that all albanians score 1 bit iberians in all calculators....
Hamilcar
03-27-2021, 08:17 PM
There is Ibero-Maurusian admixture in Iberia and weren't those tribes sort of mulattoid? Some people act like they were just dark-skinned Caucasoids but I think they should've been less Caucasoid than modern Berbers. So it's not exatly direct and recent Sub-Saharan/Negroid blood as in the Americas but it's of African origin nevertheless.
they were dark-skinned caucasoids, craniometrically they show no negroid affinities and had straight hair too (they cluster with upper paleolithic europeans in terms of craniometry) :
We studied three northern African samples of human cranial remains from the Pleistocene/Holocene boundary: Afalou-bou-Rhummel, Taforalt, and Sudanese Nubia (Jebel Sahaba and Tushka), and compared them to late Pleistocene Europeans and modern Europeans and Africans. Despite their relatively late dates, all three of our own samples exhibit the robusticity typical of late Pleistocene Homo sapiens. As far as population affinities are concerned, Taforalt is Caucasoid and closely resembles late Pleistocene Europeans [...]
https://openresearch-repository.anu.edu.au/handle/1885/90696
The Late Pleistocene material from Afalou and Taforalt in North Africa, on the other hand, had no similarity with sub-Saharan Africa. Instead, the groups from which it cannot be distinguished range from the Neolithic of Algeria and Egypt, modern Nubia, and especially modern Europe. The pattern of affiliations of the Algerian Neolithic is remarkably similar to that of the Algerian Late Pleistocene at Afalou and Taforalt and suggests long-term in situ population continuity.
Brace, C. L., D. P. Tracer, L. A. Yaroch, J. Robb, K. Brandt, and A. R. Nelson. 1993. Clines and Clusters Versus "Race": A Test in Ancient Egypt and the Case of a Death on the Nile. Yearbook of Physical Anthropology 36:1-31.
This cromagnoid morphology is particularly reminiscent of that of the Magdalenians of Obercassel.
L'Homme, son évolution, sa diversité : manuel d'anthropologie, p. 247
It is interesting that the current-day southwest Asian populations that show more genetic sharing with Iberomaurusians are the east AP populations. We tried to disentangle between an ancient link and a bias due to recent sub-Saharan input in this signature by performing the haplotype-based clustering, and confirmed a still high proportion of the basal Eurasian lineage/Iberomaurusian founding effect in clusters D (east AP and Iran) and F (west AP). Probably, the Iberomaurusian specimens are currently the best proxy for the basal Eurasian population group.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.24.432678v1.full
Hamilcar
03-27-2021, 08:23 PM
It's not ANA, it's just NA in the study posted, so modern indeed.
It's common to play the carpet seller for minoring admixture around here, im used to it. It's not an obsession when every datas point to something, it's those denying it that have one, let's not twist it the other way.
You either have no idea how admixture works, or pretends not to. They score 60 to 80% NA which is where the most of the SSA is. To even begin to imagine Morocco north has only 5.9% SSA is hilarious or again Tunisians have 0.04%...
The only one who is twisting the results here is you, no one denied north africans have ssa admixture but putting yoruba-like ancestry in the same bag as ANA is simply ridiculous (even the anthopological measures don't show such affinities). Also the results of "moroccan_south" are not representative of southern moroccans but only a fringe of them. Saharawis are more representative and their level of ssa doesn't reach 20%.
It's not really normal that a french like you is so obsessed with ssa admixture :confused: are you trying to prove something ? Seems motivated by something
Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
03-27-2021, 08:34 PM
I dont think but what :mad: my is that all albanians score 1 bit iberians in all calculators....
That's because the Illyrians were an ancient Iberian tribe that got lost in the Balkans.
https://i.postimg.cc/rshYr1zX/me.png
Petalpusher
03-27-2021, 08:34 PM
The only one who is twisting the results here is you, no one denied north africans have ssa admixture but putting yoruba-like ancestry in the same bag as ANA is simply ridiculous (even the anthopological measures don't show such affinities). Also the results of "moroccan_south" are not representative of southern moroccans but only a fringe of them. Saharawis are more representative and their level of ssa doesn't reach 20%.
It's not really normal that a french like you is so obsessed with ssa admixture :confused: are you trying to prove something ? Seems motivated by something
Nobody has ever said ANA and SSA is the same. Old anthropology has been several times awfully wrong, might be another example of it, besides it's still 2/3 Caucasian so that's right, it is. What about S.Moroccans? Saharawis are more than 20% SSA.
I do exactly what i want, if i want to discuss SSA admixture or any other sort, i will continue to do so. It's not like you aren't all the same, have talked about ASE or East Asians in the past, the carpet sellers had exactly the same arguments, always the same. I ve kept quiet because i know it's a troll thread, but now we are getting studies, purposedly found one that could trick people with the SSA splited in two components. Im chiming in that's all.
Im not asking you what are you doing in Belgium trying to minimize things people. Now you would have never imagined North Africans and some Iberians teaming up to bring down the SSA, i mean only Apricity can do that i guess..bringing the world together, it's funny.
RicoSuave
03-27-2021, 08:36 PM
That's because the Illyrians were an ancient Iberian tribe that got lost in the Balkans.
https://i.postimg.cc/rshYr1zX/me.png
Haha good one. MTA is the proof
It's not my opinion, but G25 calculator itself indicates that. Try running the taforalt sample through "Davidski standard G25 calculator". It's obv partially SSA.
https://i.imgur.com/iil7v0T.jpg
Btw, he is between 2.5 and 3% SSA on Eurogenes k13 as well, because he has almost 4% "Northeast_african" which is half a SSA component.
Although your run is a real mess and ahistorical, the SSA affinities of the IBM samples are very much real.
In Eurogenes K13 Northeast African is also mainly SSA, it's the non-Eurasian part of modern day Horners(notice how the Oromo and Amhara score around 45% Northeast African and the remaining East Med/Red Sea, but little to no SSA).
Axios
03-27-2021, 09:02 PM
I think it's usually north african or guanche in origin not ssa
My man you are a fan of the Sopranos?
they were dark-skinned caucasoids, craniometrically they show no negroid affinities and had straight hair too (they cluster with upper paleolithic europeans in terms of craniometry) :
https://openresearch-repository.anu.edu.au/handle/1885/90696
Brace, C. L., D. P. Tracer, L. A. Yaroch, J. Robb, K. Brandt, and A. R. Nelson. 1993. Clines and Clusters Versus "Race": A Test in Ancient Egypt and the Case of a Death on the Nile. Yearbook of Physical Anthropology 36:1-31.
L'Homme, son évolution, sa diversité : manuel d'anthropologie, p. 247
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.24.432678v1.full
Okay, if they were some form of Caucasoid and only geographically African, then why do you care that Southern Europeans score a single digit percentage of that? That doesn't make 'em mixed race or something if it's not real black African admixture.
Petalpusher
03-27-2021, 09:07 PM
Although your run is a real mess and ahistorical, the SSA affinities of the IBM samples are very much real.
In Eurogenes K13 Northeast African is also mainly SSA, it's the non-Eurasian part of modern day Horners(notice how the Oromo and Amhara score around 45% Northeast African and the remaining East Med/Red Sea, but little to no SSA).
Yeah most of the time we are being VERY conservative, discussing all of this. Contrary to what people may think. It's also important to understand which groups have this and that to comprehend more deeply the formation of Eurasians on the whole, how you go from being African to not be very related to them anymore. So everybody has the right to be interested about it. Every genome is compared to SSA to assess its relationship towards them and E.Asians mostly, it's like the first thing studies perform in any case. Eventually we ll get a "tree" that makes sense and with all the right branches.
LorenzoSpitaleri
03-27-2021, 10:15 PM
My man you are a fan of the Sopranos?
Yeah how did u know
Axios
03-27-2021, 10:18 PM
Yeah how did u know
You had Moltisanti pfp and now Silvio.
Hamilcar
03-27-2021, 10:27 PM
Okay, if they were some form of Caucasoid and only geographically African, then why do you care that Southern Europeans score a single digit percentage of that? That doesn't make 'em mixed race or something if it's not real black African admixture.
it is real ssa admixture in the case of iberians (we're talking about ssa admixture without taking IBM into account)
Gonzalort
03-27-2021, 10:32 PM
i guess no more than %2, and like %8 or %10 north saharan
Gallop
03-27-2021, 10:34 PM
The SSA as in so many cases in Europe is a matter in particular cases evidently to attribute it to an ancient ethnicity as in the case of the Iberians has been totally evidenced and has not been demonstrated to date.
You have been hunted
Gaditanian
03-27-2021, 10:49 PM
That's because the Illyrians were an ancient Iberian tribe that got lost in the Balkans.
Yep
https://fotos.subefotos.com/19b659838df2caad071796dadfaa2c7bo.jpg
it is real ssa admixture in the case of iberians (we're talking about ssa admixture without taking IBM into account)
So Berbers have "practically no SSA" and "it's all Ibero-Maurusian, bro" but Iberians somehow got "real SSA"? :icon_ask:
RicoSuave
03-27-2021, 10:58 PM
Lol
Jaromir
03-27-2021, 11:01 PM
the numbers don't lie - 16/9
Hamilcar
03-27-2021, 11:08 PM
So Berbers have "practically no SSA" and "it's all Ibero-Maurusian, bro" but Iberians somehow got "real SSA"? :icon_ask:
no one said that :confused:
Yeah most of the time we are being VERY conservative, discussing all of this. Contrary to what people may think. It's also important to understand which groups have this and that to comprehend more deeply the formation of Eurasians on the whole, how you go from being African to not be very related to them anymore. So everybody has the right to be interested about it. Every genome is compared to SSA to assess its relationship towards them and E.Asians mostly, it's like the first thing studies perform in any case. Eventually we ll get a "tree" that makes sense and with all the right branches.
Exactly, the waiting for how Basal and pristine Eurasian will end up being related to ancient SSA is what keeps me around these days. In my case ofcourse it's quite personal, being from the Near East and probably carrying a great deal of Basal admixture.
Smeagol
03-27-2021, 11:45 PM
Yes, at very minor levels. 1 to 3%.
Adamm
03-28-2021, 12:11 AM
Considering IBM is part SSA yes they have.
Axios
03-28-2021, 12:19 AM
Considering IBM is part SSA yes they have.
Hey Adamm, i want to get my Ydna tested. What you recommend?. Idk if its a waste of money since im probably E-M81 or some subclade under E1b.
Adamm
03-28-2021, 01:40 AM
Hey Adamm, i want to get my Ydna tested. What you recommend?. Idk if its a waste of money since im probably E-M81 or some subclade under E1b.
As you're tested positive E with morley I'd suggest to either go for E panel of YSEQ (costs around 100 euro), or do 23andMe (also around 100 euro) and if you don't mind to spent a bit more go for Nebula or Dantelabs (300 euros) which will give you everything you need, Y-DNA, MTDNA and your terminal haplogroup will be included and you can upload your DNA to YFULL. (I've done Dantelabs myself).
MercifulServant
03-28-2021, 02:39 AM
Minor but present.
Grace O'Malley
03-28-2021, 04:35 AM
What other European populations have this or any other "exotic" admixture? Would be an interesting thread. :)
I like this old song from the Scottish singer Al Stewart about being in Morocco (or thereabouts) and falling for some lady's charms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqZc7ZQURMs
PaleoEuropean
03-28-2021, 04:43 AM
I highly doubt Italians, French or Iberians have any real SSA. up to 2% is noise, Archaic DNA is not widely understood or studied, most genetic research goes into forensics and college level ADNA analysis is kind of a joke considering their tiny sample pools. Ancient Iberians crossed the straights into Africa and interbred with the Paleolithic and Neolithic North African populations, plus Roman North Africa, Gothic, Vandal etc etc.
There is a lot of history to consider. I would say get a North African Roman, Vandal or Goth kit and compare. And then you will have something more tangible than just opinions.
Thunder_shock
03-28-2021, 05:24 AM
Indeed for most of them you'll find ssa admixture, but instead of the calculators outputting a percentage for a pure african component, its instead hidden with taforalt/ibero-maurisian component, perhaps indicating that it's ancient?
Scandal
03-28-2021, 08:07 AM
What I need to do if I want to know how much SSA I inheired? Do I need to purchase my G25 coordinates? I'm very curious.
No, G25 is not needed for that.
Your k13 (from my apricity member's database) : Rafael_Passoni(White-Brazilian),30.31,9.34,25.81,7.08,22.58,4.45,0,0,0, 0,0.37,0.07,0
You have zero SSA.
I highly doubt Italians, French or Iberians have any real SSA. up to 2% is noise, Archaic DNA is not widely understood or studied, most genetic research goes into forensics and college level ADNA analysis is kind of a joke considering their tiny sample pools. Ancient Iberians crossed the straights into Africa and interbred with the Paleolithic and Neolithic North African populations, plus Roman North Africa, Gothic, Vandal etc etc.
There is a lot of history to consider. I would say get a North African Roman, Vandal or Goth kit and compare. And then you will have something more tangible than just opinions.
An E1b1a Spaniard is on this very forum and you're dreaming it's archaic.
Defcon2
03-28-2021, 08:58 AM
No, G25 is not needed for that.
Your k13 (from my apricity member's database) : Rafael_Passoni(White-Brazilian),30.31,9.34,25.81,7.08,22.58,4.45,0,0,0, 0,0.37,0.07,0
You have zero SSA.
So my Meta-Ethnicity is correct, I just need to confirm the Slav dna to be sure. :D
I highly doubt Italians, French or Iberians have any real SSA. up to 2% is noise, Archaic DNA is not widely understood or studied, most genetic research goes into forensics and college level ADNA analysis is kind of a joke considering their tiny sample pools. Ancient Iberians crossed the straights into Africa and interbred with the Paleolithic and Neolithic North African populations, plus Roman North Africa, Gothic, Vandal etc etc.
There is a lot of history to consider. I would say get a North African Roman, Vandal or Goth kit and compare. And then you will have something more tangible than just opinions.
An E1b1a Spaniard is on this very forum and you're dreaming it's archaic.
Hamilcar
03-28-2021, 03:01 PM
I highly doubt Italians, French or Iberians have any real SSA. up to 2% is noise, Archaic DNA is not widely understood or studied, most genetic research goes into forensics and college level ADNA analysis is kind of a joke considering their tiny sample pools. Ancient Iberians crossed the straights into Africa and interbred with the Paleolithic and Neolithic North African populations, plus Roman North Africa, Gothic, Vandal etc etc.
There is a lot of history to consider. I would say get a North African Roman, Vandal or Goth kit and compare. And then you will have something more tangible than just opinions.
that's not what the studies say and how can't it be real if spain is only 15km away from Africa and contacts went both ways not only iberia to Africa.
here an example :
Our Copper Age dataset includes a newly reported male (I4246) from Camino de las Yeseras (14) in central Iberia, radiocarbon dated to 2473–2030 calibrated years BCE, who clusters with modern and ancient North Africans in the PCA (Fig. 1C and fig. S3) and, like ~3000 BCE Moroccans (8), can be well modeled as having ancestry from both Late Pleistocene North Africans (15) and Early Neolithic Europeans (tables S9 and S10). His genome-wide ancestry and uniparental markers (tables S1 and S4) are unique among Copper Age Iberians, including individuals from sites with many analyzed individuals such as Sima del Ángel, and point to a North African origin. [...] Our genetic evidence of sporadic contacts with North Africa during the Copper Age fits with the presence of African ivory at Iberian sites (16) and is further supported by a Bronze Age individual (I7162) from Loma del Puerco in southern Iberia who had 25% ancestry related to individuals like I4246 (Fig. 1D and table S16). However, these early movements from North Africa had a limited impact on Copper and Bronze Age Iberians, as North African ancestry only became widespread in the past ~2000 years.
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/363/6432/1230
Also SSA lineages can be found among iberian individuals (we even have a member with a ssa paternal haplogroup) so no it's not just "noise" it's real but minor.
Gallop
03-28-2021, 03:34 PM
We have one member, we have 2, we have 3. 15 km separate Africa from Europe, all that is not attributable to the Iberians first because it is comparing several modern people with an entire ancient ethnic group.
And in the rest of attempts to attribute it to the different periods it is not coherent nor does it fit in any of them, we are out of time.
And in the attempt in reference to the most ancient period, trade of ivory, amber e.t.c. with Africa they went to look for biological remains to the Hospital of Huelva where they knew that already in modern times there would be some patients from the towns like Gibraleón e.t.c. that are visited in the Hospital of Huelva and that in recent times would have been accessed to the local population, not too many decades ago were confined in ghetto neighborhoods of these villages living with gypsies, all very premeditated to find in modern population the SSA they were willing to find to begin to differentiate Iberia and thus also isolate the Hispanic American community from any link through Spain with Anglo-Saxon, Germanic or successful Europe or whatever you want to call it, Italy in this case would be accepted as a companion animal, there is an Italian ethnic minority in the United States, too many movies of Romans e. t.c.
A plotted plan, but they have nothing to do, all these shenanigans eventually come to light.
Cristiano viejo
03-28-2021, 03:34 PM
that's not what the studies say and how can't it be real if spain is only 15km away from Africa and contacts went both way not only iberia to Africa.
here an example :
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/363/6432/1230
Also SSA lineages can be found among iberian individuals (we even have a member with a ssa paternal haplogroup) so no it's not just "noise" it's real but minor.
What an argument, brownie, that "Spain is 15 kms of Africa" :lol: that is like saying Americans have Mexican blood "because they make a frontier" :picard1:
You are just jealous that we dont have black blood, nor look black, unlike you Moroccans. Finding the grave of a negro meaning Iberians have black blood only can happen in your fertile mind :thumb001: where the fuck did you think you semi-blacks were buried? perhaps you thought they were taken to Africa to be it :picard1:
You also scored 5.6% Taforalt, which seems to be 1/3 SSA according to my estimates
Target: MAR_Taforalt
Distance: 27.9889% / 0.27988876
56.8 Levant_PPNB
24.8 Dinka
12.4 Gambian
6.0 Jarawa
Oh wow, forgot about that. So I’d probably be around 3% SSA accounting for that, interesting.
Man i was in Spain ,spaniards have not north african ancestry if we dont count spaniards gypsy the others are whites people...dont talk shiti her...man can see in 10 seconds in the street.I am not again to troll 1 bit Cristiano Veijo and I'm always ready for that,but to say that spaniards have arab ancestry because arabs occupe Spain is absurd....even turcs occuped Albania 500 years but if you see albanians dna they dont have even 0,000009 % turc dna ...
Damião de Góis
03-28-2021, 03:47 PM
I tried the theories presented here. I've read a member saying we are 15% north african in another thread and here people are saying we are 3% SSA. I guess being generous to everyone we could say we are 20% NA + SSA. I tried the run here, http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/Global-standard.htm:
My standard results, (i already was aware of the 1.X SSA i usually score). A somewhat bad distance:
Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 4.0115% / 0.04011473
52.0 TUR_Barcin_N
32.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.4 WHG
3.4 MAR_Taforalt
1.6 Yoruba
By removing MAR_Taforalt i get 3% Gambian and MAR_Taforalt gets replaced with TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N. Already bad distance increases:
Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 4.1523% / 0.04152280
50.2 TUR_Barcin_N
32.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.8 WHG
3.8 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
3.2 Gambian
So the conclusion (with a worse distance) is that i'm 3 SSA% and 0% North African? Or the 15% North African is also hidden in other components?
no one said that :confused:
You have always stated that "it's Ibero-Maurusian", not the kind of African we all think of.
Yes, and it peaks in western Iberia. Basques don't have any as far as I know.
Defcon2
03-28-2021, 04:24 PM
that's not what the studies say and how can't it be real if spain is only 15km away from Africa and contacts went both ways not only iberia to Africa.
here an example :
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/363/6432/1230
Also SSA lineages can be found among iberian individuals (we even have a member with a ssa paternal haplogroup) so no it's not just "noise" it's real but minor.
Yes, but there is a Moroccan individual with my subclade, now it is not seen but it is at least 2000 years old, so it is not impossible that it has been introduced into the Iberian Peninsula by Berbers or people close to them.
https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Z6015/
The problem is that not enough Y-DNA tests are done in Africa due to the low economic power there to draw accurate conclusions.
Cristiano viejo
03-28-2021, 04:26 PM
Yes, and it peaks in western Iberia. Basques don't have any as far as I know.
And where it peaks in Croatia and Hungary? I bet in Budapest, due it was the center of the Jewish community.
And where it peaks in Croatia and Hungary? I bet in Budapest, due it was the center of the Jewish community.
We don't have SSA admxture. Jews do have minor SSA yeah.
Recent/actual African ancestry is non-existent in most of Europe, except for its Southern fringes. That's neither news nor an opinion but an established fact. And even in Southern Europe it's not always present or significant.
Cristiano viejo
03-28-2021, 04:31 PM
We don't have SSA admxture. Jews do have minor SSA yeah.
Yes, you have
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?281473-Croat-from-Zadar-gedmatch-results
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?234771-Northwest-Croat-gedmatch
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?261195-Can-someone-post-bosnian-and-croatian-ged-match-results
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?320142-Croatian-Eurogenes-results
Yes, you have
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?281473-Croat-from-Zadar-gedmatch-results
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?234771-Northwest-Croat-gedmatch
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?261195-Can-someone-post-bosnian-and-croatian-ged-match-results
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?320142-Croatian-Eurogenes-results
I advise you to stop embarassing yourself xD
Diego Garcia
03-28-2021, 04:37 PM
here all are pure but the iberians
oops, sorry, the spaniards, 'cause the portuguese are also pure
lol
Cristiano viejo
03-28-2021, 04:38 PM
I advise you to stop embarassing yourself xD
You embarrased youself claiming ones have others not, when all of them score it.
Yes, but there is a Moroccan individual with my subclade, now it is not seen but it is at least 2000 years old, so it is not impossible that it has been introduced into the Iberian Peninsula by Berbers or people close to them.
https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Z6015/
The problem is that not enough Y-DNA tests are done in Africa due to the low economic power there to draw accurate conclusions.
The Moroccan's subclade is too diverged from you (if you're the Spanish flag). The common ancestor is pre-Berber.
More importantly, the Moroccan shares a clade with a Mandinka, which tells us that your SSA and his could not have been the same one.
Defcon2
03-28-2021, 04:50 PM
The Moroccan's subclade is too diverged from you (if you're the Spanish flag). The common ancestor is pre-Berber.
I am not that Spaniard who is there, but both the Moroccan and that Spaniard have similar ages, so they are related, they are brothers.
Petalpusher
03-28-2021, 04:55 PM
I tried the theories presented here. I've read a member saying we are 15% north african in another thread and here people are saying we are 3% SSA. I guess being generous to everyone we could say we are 20% NA + SSA. I tried the run here, http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/Global-standard.htm:
My standard results, (i already was aware of the 1.X SSA i usually score). A somewhat bad distance:
Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 4.0115% / 0.04011473
52.0 TUR_Barcin_N
32.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.4 WHG
3.4 MAR_Taforalt
1.6 Yoruba
By removing MAR_Taforalt i get 3% Gambian and MAR_Taforalt gets replaced with TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N. Already bad distance increases:
Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 4.1523% / 0.04152280
50.2 TUR_Barcin_N
32.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.8 WHG
3.8 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
3.2 Gambian
So the conclusion (with a worse distance) is that i'm 3 SSA% and 0% North African? Or the 15% North African is also hidden in other components?
When you remove the SSA from NA, they are not that different from neolithic populations all Europeans have. They just tend to be a mix of west and east med, with sizeable WHG. So yes the rest outside of SSA are normal "caucasian components". They also lack the indo European and ANE in particular, sometimes they score a bit because they have an affinity to Iran_N (more east med type) but that's it, minor, while you have real IE, and more mesolithic derived ancestry of course.
In other words, swap the SSA and or/ANA for more WHG and ANE in NA, and you get a regular Euro. They are still pred Eurasian, but it's not like SSA is anecdotic.
I am not that Spaniard who is there, but both the Moroccan and that Spaniard have similar ages, so they are related, they are brothers.
Not how it works. The Moroccan shares unique mutations with the Mandinka in his subclade, which means their common SSA ancestor wasn't the Spaniard's. It's irrelevant that YFull's age of their subclade hasn't gone down.
I am not that Spaniard who is there, but both the Moroccan and that Spaniard have similar ages, so they are related, they are brothers.
So your Y DNA is Negro from Da Gambia? I don't know how your identity changed when you learned it. Or did it?
Defcon2
03-28-2021, 05:02 PM
Not how it works. The Moroccan shares unique mutations with the Mandinka in his subclade, which means their common SSA ancestor wasn't the Spaniard's. It's irrelevant that YFull's age of their subclade hasn't gone down.
I ignore everything that has to do with Y-DNA, but it is suspicious that a Moroccan is very close to my subclade, more people are needed to get tested in Morocco. :lol:
You embarrased youself claiming ones have others not, when all of them score it.
They don't score any. Problem is that you aren't well acquinted with genetics darling.
mitalit
03-28-2021, 05:07 PM
When you remove the SSA from NA, they are not that different from neolithic populations all Europeans have. They just tend to be a mix of west and east med, with sizeable WHG. So yes the rest outside of SSA are normal "caucasian components". They also lack the indo European and ANE in particular, sometimes they score a bit because they have an affinity to Iran_N (more east med type) but that's it, minor, while you have real IE, and more mesolithic derived ancestry of course.
In my personal case I see that when I remove the MAR_Taforalt my whg grow a little.
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 3.7379% / 0.03737881
51.4 TUR_Barcin_N
35.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.8 WHG
3.4 MAR_Taforalt
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 3.9756% / 0.03975649
53.6 TUR_Barcin_N
35.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.0 WHG
0.8 Yoruba
0.6 Han
I have also noticed that whg has some MAR_Taforalt (it is very badly done, but it surprised me)
Target: WHG
Distance: 37.1263% / 0.37126289
79.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
18.2 TUR_Barcin_N
2.2 MAR_Taforalt
Defcon2
03-28-2021, 05:07 PM
So your Y DNA is Negro from Da Gambia? I don't know how your identity changed when you learned it. Or did it?
All this is experimental, it is necessary to go to the Middle Ages regarding the age of a Y-DNA at least to draw better conclusions, if we go back enough there will always be eccentricities.
Why would my identity change? :rolleyes:
I ignore everything that has to do with Y-DNA, but it is suspicious that a Moroccan is very close to my subclade, more people are needed to get tested in Morocco. :lol:
That's fine. If you think the broader clade might've had more lines in Morocco and that a basal Moroccan will one day show up or one who will form a subclade with you, you can wait. However, all things considered, I wouldn't bet this one is by a Moorish proxy.
IndoEuropeanR1b
03-28-2021, 05:10 PM
Saying that croatians and Hungarians could have the negro admixture that iberians have, is just laughable and makes me happy to know such funny creatures exist. I will definitely enjoy this forum.
Axios
03-28-2021, 05:11 PM
I ignore everything that has to do with Y-DNA, but it is suspicious that a Moroccan is very close to my subclade, more people are needed to get tested in Morocco. :lol:
I know a riffian guy from Facebook that has the E-M35 subclade and he shares it with a canarian. E-Z5013: EM183/EZ5009/EZ5013/EA1152
Saying that croatians and Hungarians could have the negro admixture that iberians have, is just laughable and makes me happy to know such funny creatures exist. I will definitely enjoy this forum.
Are you Russian? R1b nationalism makes no sense for us, it's like 5-7% in ethnic Russians. On the other hand we R1as founded Iran and India :cool: Yes, we wuz kangs 'n shit.
Petalpusher
03-28-2021, 05:14 PM
In my personal case I see that when I remove the MAR_Taforalt my whg grow a little.
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 3.7379% / 0.03737881
51.4 TUR_Barcin_N
35.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.8 WHG
3.4 MAR_Taforalt
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 3.9756% / 0.03975649
53.6 TUR_Barcin_N
35.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.0 WHG
0.8 Yoruba
0.6 Han
I have also noticed that whg has some MAR_Taforalt (it is very badly done, but it surprised me)
Target: WHG
Distance: 37.1263% / 0.37126289
79.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
18.2 TUR_Barcin_N
2.2 MAR_Taforalt
That's normal because Taforalt had some WHG, and likely the reason you see a bit of it running it the other way. But trying to model WHG with Yamnaya and neolithic is too much anachronism, it's predating all that, hence the terrible distance too.
mitalit
03-28-2021, 05:14 PM
So your Y DNA is Negro from Da Gambia? I don't know how your identity changed when you learned it. Or did it?
in fact, he used to identify himself as black
PaleoEuropean
03-28-2021, 05:15 PM
An E1b1a Spaniard is on this very forum and you're dreaming it's archaic.
E1b1a is found all over the Mediteranian even in the Balkans. It's also found in all North African populations including Egyptians as well as among Arabs/Jews. That isn't saying much.
Also E1b1a basal is around 40,000 years old, so it's had a lot of time to move around.
mitalit
03-28-2021, 05:16 PM
That's normal because Taforalt had some WHG, and likely the reason you see a bit of it running it the other way. But trying to model WHG with Yamnaya and neolithic is too much anachronism, it's predating all that, hence the terrible distance too.
Yep, I did what universe did with MAR_Taforalt to see how different populations responded
I know a riffian guy from Facebook that has the E-M35 subclade and he shares it with a canarian. E-Z5013: EM183/EZ5009/EZ5013/EA1152
That's more than expcected. It's a subclade of M81 - an effectively Berber clade. M81 isn't SSA. In Defcon's case, only question is whether his is SSA>Moor>Spaniard or SSA>Spaniard.
PaleoEuropean
03-28-2021, 05:18 PM
Saying that croatians and Hungarians could have the negro admixture that iberians have, is just laughable and makes me happy to know such funny creatures exist. I will definitely enjoy this forum.
None of them have any negro influence, if they did you would see people with 10%+ as Autosomal DNA is 100% random and the endless variability would surely create such specimens.
E1b1a is found all over the Mediteranian even in the Balkans. It's also found in all North African populations including Egyptians as well as among Arabs/Jews. That isn't saying much.
Also E1b1a basal is around 40,000 years old, so it's had a lot of time to move around.
If you're new to Y-DNA, it's cool. We all were at one point and said stupid shit before.
Hamilcar
03-28-2021, 06:09 PM
You have always stated that "it's Ibero-Maurusian", not the kind of African we all think of.
I said on these gedmatch calculators it's not accurate for us because they always lacked the IBM samples but I never denied we had some west african type of ancestry
Hamilcar
03-28-2021, 06:16 PM
When you remove the SSA from NA, they are not that different from neolithic populations all Europeans have. They just tend to be a mix of west and east med, with sizeable WHG. So yes the rest outside of SSA are normal "caucasian components". They also lack the indo European and ANE in particular, sometimes they score a bit because they have an affinity to Iran_N (more east med type) but that's it, minor, while you have real IE, and more mesolithic derived ancestry of course.
In other words, swap the SSA and or/ANA for more WHG and ANE in NA, and you get a regular Euro. They are still pred Eurasian, but it's not like SSA is anecdotic.
Please refrain from talking about our genetics you clearly don't really know what you're talking about. Coastal north africans do have real steppe ancestry but you simply chose to ignore it because it seems too "far-fetched" for you. That's where I see that you don't really know much about north african archeology/history. Also where did you see that taforalt had WHG admixture ? Show me pls
Hamilcar
03-28-2021, 06:20 PM
I tried the theories presented here. I've read a member saying we are 15% north african in another thread and here people are saying we are 3% SSA. I guess being generous to everyone we could say we are 20% NA + SSA. I tried the run here, http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/Global-standard.htm:
My standard results, (i already was aware of the 1.X SSA i usually score). A somewhat bad distance:
Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 4.0115% / 0.04011473
52.0 TUR_Barcin_N
32.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.4 WHG
3.4 MAR_Taforalt
1.6 Yoruba
By removing MAR_Taforalt i get 3% Gambian and MAR_Taforalt gets replaced with TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N. Already bad distance increases:
Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 4.1523% / 0.04152280
50.2 TUR_Barcin_N
32.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.8 WHG
3.8 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
3.2 Gambian
So the conclusion (with a worse distance) is that i'm 3 SSA% and 0% North African? Or the 15% North African is also hidden in other components?
I don't see why you removed the MAR_taforalt while it's well known that all iberians have some of it (except basques)
with 3% taforalt it means you're around 9-10% north african and probably around 1-2% SSA (3% if we take ANA into account)
Gallop
03-28-2021, 06:47 PM
Whoever controls the source controls the results, there is something fishy about all this, it doesn't add up and it has been orchestrated from the beginning. It is only necessary to see that France has not left its own affair in the hands of foreigners, Spain has consented to it and here we see things that do not add up, it is because it is trusting.
P.S.: The dream that decent people have is to know the pure truth and nothing else.
Cristiano viejo
03-28-2021, 07:01 PM
They don't score any. Problem is that you aren't well acquinted with genetics darling.
Yes, they score it. You even created some of them, you should know it. Not sure if you know but people can read, in this thread is pretty clear lot of Croatians score Northeast African and SSA:
The average:
.North_AtlanticBalticWest_MedWest_AsianEast_MedRed _SeaSouth_AsianEast_AsianSiberianAmerindianOceania nNortheast_AfricanSub-Saharan
Eurogenes_official_average27.2136.1114.547.949.441 .450.970.300.330.800.400.320.19
Zagreb28.8233.7414.877.4311.131.490.450.260.490.56 0.400.230.13
Herzegovina25.9933.1915.008.5313.271.110.950.050.7 20.740.450.000.00
Bosnia26.8532.1615.727.3013.751.740.730.210.560.28 0.520.100.09
Split25.9531.3916.338.2313.731.640.390.350.520.560 .560.220.13
Zagreb+Bosnia+Herz+Split26.9032.6215.487.8712.971. 490.630.220.570.530.480.140.09
Individually:
.North_AtlanticBalticWest_MedWest_AsianEast_MedRed _SeaSouth_AsianEast_AsianSiberianAmerindianOceania nNortheast_AfricanSub-Saharan
Croatian_Split_CRO10323.4632.4517.068.6610.155.570 .93000.061.6500
Croatian_Split_CRO10725.0134.0412.978.4715.252.390 01.2500.6200
Croatian_Split_CRO1532927.5717.174.1616.371.8700.4 80.811.1400.680.73
Croatian_Split_CRO3131.5930.2114.615.6914.591.410. 93000.5500.410
Croatian_Split_CRO4124.3134.4115.559.7413.140.3100 01.480.240.810
Croatian_Split_CRO4729.5232.0819.656.488.520.7300. 750.610.940.7100
Croatian_Split_CRO4825.5528.7616.98.5516.820.970.9 300.1801.3400
Croatian_Split_CRO5325.0331.0619.2312.697.890.641. 1400.810.460.770.280
Croatian_Split_CRO6620.0430.2114.2111.2819.052.020 1.490.460.950.300
Croatian_Split_CRO9325.9733.1115.966.615.560.4600. 741.060000.55
Split25.9531.3916.338.2313.731.640.390.350.520.560 .560.220.13
cro_bos_125.9530.0316.856.0616.042.051.20.160.210. 930.4800.04
cro_bos_1228.0235.6712.876.1813.861.250.280.490.17 0.070.80.350
cro_bos_1230.6933.8416.245.568.381.92.640.330.370. 02000.03
cro_bos_1625.673216.847.114.641.290.0701.5300.260. 260.34
cro_bos_1927.429.8514.539.9916.7200.0300.970.30.21 00
cro_bos_623.3931.5516.968.912.883.930.170.30.110.3 41.3500.12
Bosnia26.8532.1615.727.313.751.740.730.210.560.280 .520.10.09
cro_herz_126.233.7915.189.9112.180.74000.571.010.4 100
cro_herz_1129.8731.6913.837.4110.30.894.170.011.02 0.610.190.010
cro_herz_1327.5431.4216.457.8512.353.190.0301.040. 090.0200.01
cro_herz_2026.632.3513.597.1417.390.050.530.0801.7 10.5700
cro_herz_819.7436.6815.9610.3314.140.680.040.150.9 60.271.0500
Herzegovina25.9933.19158.5313.271.110.950.050.720. 740.4500
Croat_Croatia_2626.3834.9115.0510.927.31.222.57001 .030.160.460
Croat_Croatia_4331.735.3415.685.48.092.1900.740.45 00.4100
Croat_Croatia_5328.8437.0412.766.5511.151.98000.60 .5300.540
Croat_Croatia_13329.3633.1213.269.0812.2201.230.15 0.581.01000
Croat_Croatia_14029.4735.3614.866.7810.770.620.240 .4200.840.440.20
Croat_Croatia_14126.0832.8312.968.8614.642.1300.82 00.940.6600.08
Croat_Croatia_14226.0338.6913.156.0911.561.8201.03 000.9700.63
Croat_Croatia_19829.8528.7917.817.7511.362.19000.4 201.160.510.16
Croat_Croatia_30228.7332.2815.617.7313.560.420.100 .860000.68
Croat_Croatia_30531.1233.414.575.310.311.960.4201. 230.150.950.550
Croat_Croatia_31229.3234.7815.446.849.681.070.100. 91.3900.480
Croat_Croatia_34428.9428.3717.267.8912.892.260.680 0.890.81000
Zagreb28.8233.7414.877.4311.131.490.450.260.490.56 0.40.230.13
Why you deny this I am not sure, but I find hilarious that people claim this is not real for other countries except Spain and Portugal :lightbul:
Many of these Croats score quite more SSA than the Portuguese user Viriato, for example. FACT.
Saying that croatians and Hungarians could have the negro admixture that iberians have, is just laughable and makes me happy to know such funny creatures exist. I will definitely enjoy this forum.
Did you understand that? and are others the funny creatures?? juassss.
IndoEuropeanR1b
03-28-2021, 07:08 PM
Are you Russian? R1b nationalism makes no sense for us, it's like 5-7% in ethnic Russians. On the other hand we R1as founded Iran and India :cool: Yes, we wuz kangs 'n shit.
Russian flag is just for fun, R1b came from there, that's why I've chosen that, but i will change it. R1b = R1a (exept for Z93 that's more frequent on kikes and apus)
Petalpusher
03-28-2021, 07:09 PM
Please refrain from talking about our genetics you clearly don't really know what you're talking about. Coastal north africans do have real steppe ancestry but you simply chose to ignore it because it seems too "far-fetched" for you. That's where I see that you don't really know much about north african archeology/history. Also where did you see that taforalt had WHG admixture ? Show me pls
0% ANE = 0% Steppe ancestry
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JVGdg2UsN3jYWgaoxAZu-QsAmuCaq3kT7FvqSXwUsAA/pubhtml
It starts to rise up to a mere 2% in Egypt as they begin to have some remnant of southern steppe, rather CHG/Iran_N rich populations more than anything else, which is part of the Yamnaya genesis but lacks the ANE/EHG for it to become IE Yamnaya per say.
In Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia, 0% ANE, peanuts, nada, as it should be since IE have never migrated there. Even a dozen of Vandals wouldn't change that.
Besides im not here to do the lookup into studies for you for such basic knowledge. You learn how Steppe ancestry works, then we may talk.
Damião de Góis
03-28-2021, 07:11 PM
I don't see why you removed the MAR_taforalt while it's well known that all iberians have some of it (except basques)
with 3% taforalt it means you're around 9-10% north african and probably around 1-2% SSA (3% if we take ANA into account)
I was experimenting, trying to reach the 3% figure. I know that if i remove it the distance gets worse because it should be there.
Anyway i find that this run ( http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/ULTIMATE%20ANCIENT%20COMPONENTS.htm ) is a lot better for me for whatever reason. It halved my distance:
Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 2.5356% / 0.02535624
50.2 Early_European_Farmer
33.6 Steppe_Pastoralist
10.6 Western_Hunter-Gatherer
4.6 Iberomaurusian
1.0 Africa_Mesolithic
Axios
03-28-2021, 07:15 PM
0% ANE = 0% Steppe ancestry
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JVGdg2UsN3jYWgaoxAZu-QsAmuCaq3kT7FvqSXwUsAA/pubhtml
It starts to rise up to a mere 2% in Egypt as they begin to have some remnant of southern steppe, rather CHG/Iran_N rich populations more than anything else, which is part of the Yamnaya genesis but lacks the ANE/EHG for it to become IE Yamnaya per say.
In Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia, 0% ANE, peanuts, nada, as it should be since IE have never migrated there. Even a dozen of Vandals wouldn't change that.
Besides im not here to do the lookup into studies for you for such basic knowledge. You learn how Steppe ancestry works, then we may talk.
What is this then:
Target: Ouail_scaled
Distance: 2.0964% / 0.02096426
40.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
29.8 MAR_Iberomaurusian
17.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
8.4 Levant_Natufian
3.8 Yoruba
0.6 GEO_CHG
https://i.ibb.co/1fWSpRx/ajeje.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/pLvKLZB/ajeje2.jpg
Russian flag is just for fun, R1b came from there, that's why I've chosen that, but i will change it. R1b = R1a (exept for Z93 that's more frequent on kikes and apus)
Okay. Z93 is of our kind too, they just had too much brown and yellow pu$$y. But the original lineage carriers did not look like the aforementioned ;)
0% ANE = 0% Steppe ancestry
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JVGdg2UsN3jYWgaoxAZu-QsAmuCaq3kT7FvqSXwUsAA/pubhtml
It starts to rise up to a mere 2% in Egypt as they begin to have some remnant of southern steppe, rather CHG/Iran_N rich populations more than anything else, which is part of the Yamnaya genesis but lacks the ANE/EHG for it to become IE Yamnaya per say.
In Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia, 0% ANE, peanuts, nada, as it should be since IE have never migrated there. Even a dozen of Vandals wouldn't change that.
Besides im not here to do the lookup into studies for you for such basic knowledge. You learn how Steppe ancestry works, then we may talk.
There is assimilated recent Iberian ancestry in the Maghreb though. Axios is clearly part white, so is Nassbean.
Petalpusher
03-28-2021, 07:19 PM
What is this then:
Target: Ouail_scaled
Distance: 2.0964% / 0.02096426
40.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
29.8 MAR_Iberomaurusian
17.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
8.4 Levant_Natufian
3.8 Yoruba
0.6 GEO_CHG
https://i.ibb.co/1fWSpRx/ajeje.jpg
East Basal Eurasian, CHG, Iran_N as i explained in the post you quoted. You do score East med, don't you in K13? That's what it's trying to fit
Run ANE K7 on Gedmatch or Gedrosia K6 and you will see you won't score any relevant ANE or at all. Actually i have already done it with your kit and there s none. There s indeed not even integer values in the table above, but you do score some CHG and east basal.
Axios
03-28-2021, 07:22 PM
East Basal Eurasian, CHG, Iran_N as i explained in the post you quoted. You do score East med, don't you in K13? That's what it's trying to fit
Run ANE K7 on Gedmatch or Gedrosia K6 and you will see you won't score any relevant ANE or at all. Actually i have already done it with your kit and there s none. There s indeed not even integer values in the table above, but you do score some CHG and east basal.
Ancient Eurasia K6
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 11.04 Pct
Ancestral_South_Eurasian -
East_Asian 2.07 Pct
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 23.1 Pct
Natufian 47.41 Pct
Sub_Saharan 16.37 Pct
Gedrosia K3
Population
E_Eurasian 0.49 Pct
SSA 17.91 Pct
W_Eurasian 81.6 Pct
Eurogenes_ANE K7
Population
ANE 0.61 Pct
ASE -
WHG-UHG 28 Pct
East_Eurasian 2.83 Pct
West_African -
East_African 17.41 Pct
ENF
I can't find Gedrosia K6
The truth is that there is shared ancestry between Iberia and Northwest Africa. That's why they all score things like West Med, Atlantic, etc. IMO without fucking Islam the Berbers would be a pretty cool group, very unique. But that applies to other groups as well.
Petalpusher
03-28-2021, 07:27 PM
Ancient Eurasia K6
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 11.04 Pct
Ancestral_South_Eurasian -
East_Asian 2.07 Pct
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 23.1 Pct
Natufian 47.41 Pct
Sub_Saharan 16.37 Pct
Im not talking about you, you might have ancestry from Iberia or something since you are like x5 times higher than North Morocco for ANE. Im talking about North Africans as a whole.
But what do we do with it, you are 16.37% SSA or? Ancestral North Eurasian here integrates some WHG stuff, it's also higher than usual for Europeans.
Your ANE K7:
Population
ANE 0.61 Pct
ASE -
WHG-UHG 28 Pct
East_Eurasian 2.83 Pct
West_African -
East_African 17.41 Pct
ENF 51.15 Pct
Also im not sure why you made a circle on that chart, Sardinia has no steppe? We know that like for 10 years. Iberia in the Copper Age didn't have any yet, same thing, there s no surprise. What are you trying to show?
Axios
03-28-2021, 07:28 PM
The truth is that there is shared ancestry between Iberia and Northwest Africa. That's why they all score things like West Med, Atlantic, etc. IMO without fucking Islam the Berbers would be a pretty cool group, very unique. But that applies to other groups as well.
We couldn't even use berber names some years ago :shrug: it doesnt have to do with islam, but with their constant attempts of arabization, to this day the riffian region is still one of the poorest and marginated areas in Morocco for a reason, hell they even kill our people to this day (Nasser Zafzafi).
Axios
03-28-2021, 07:30 PM
Im not talking about you, you are might have ancestry from Iberia or something since you are like x5 times higher than North Morocco for ANE. Im talking about North Africans as a whole.
But what do we do with it, you are 16.37% SSA or? Ancestral North Eurasian here integrates some WHG stuff, it's also higher than usual for Europeans.
Your ANE K7:
Population
ANE 0.61 Pct
ASE -
WHG-UHG 28 Pct
East_Eurasian 2.83 Pct
West_African -
East_African 17.41 Pct
ENF 51.15 Pct
I'm Bantu confirmed, why is SSA so high with this ancestral calculators btw?
...
Nope. Iberians have minor African ancestry which was also found in formal tests and only other places in Europe where it's present are Med islands like Malta or Sicily. Accept it and move on.
Scandal
03-28-2021, 07:35 PM
I'm Bantu confirmed, why is SSA so high with this ancestral calculators btw?
It's not necessarily bantu, bantu is just one of the many ssa populations.
Axios
03-28-2021, 07:37 PM
It's not necessarily bantu, bantu is just one of the many ssa populations.
I was being sarcastic, i'm around 10-12% SSA not 16%. 5,6 SSA + 11 northeast african = 10-12%.
Petalpusher
03-28-2021, 07:38 PM
I'm Bantu confirmed, why is SSA so high with this ancestral calculators btw?
Because it stops spreading everything in a dozen of anachronic modern components. It goes deeper with these ancestral calculators, those are more ethnic components very removed from each others, maybe except ENF-UHG. Many Europeans score some on those. I would agree you are more in the 12% +/- in more traditional calculators and that's what you get.
Hamilcar
03-28-2021, 07:39 PM
0% ANE = 0% Steppe ancestry
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JVGdg2UsN3jYWgaoxAZu-QsAmuCaq3kT7FvqSXwUsAA/pubhtml
It starts to rise up to a mere 2% in Egypt as they begin to have some remnant of southern steppe, rather CHG/Iran_N rich populations more than anything else, which is part of the Yamnaya genesis but lacks the ANE/EHG for it to become IE Yamnaya per say.
In Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia, 0% ANE, peanuts, nada, as it should be since IE have never migrated there. Even a dozen of Vandals wouldn't change that.
Besides im not here to do the lookup into studies for you for such basic knowledge. You learn how Steppe ancestry works, then we may talk.
Do you have any ANE coordinates ? I see only a few berber samples not all berbers have steppe ancestry.
Also how do you explain such differences ? :
Target: Hamilcar_scaled
Distance: 2.9501% / 0.02950090
46.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
27.4 MAR_Iberomaurusian
12.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
6.6 Yoruba
5.0 Levant_Natufian
1.6 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
1.4 WHG
Target: Ouail_scaled
Distance: 2.0964% / 0.02096426
40.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
29.8 MAR_Iberomaurusian
17.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
8.4 Levant_Natufian
3.8 Yoruba
0.6 GEO_CHG
copper age north africans :
Target: ITA_Sardinia_C_o:I15940
Distance: 4.0821% / 0.04082086
42.4 MAR_Iberomaurusian
34.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
16.2 Levant_Natufian
7.2 Yoruba
Target: Iberia_Central_CA_Afr:I4246
Distance: 3.7370% / 0.03736979
46.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
27.4 MAR_Iberomaurusian
15.4 Levant_Natufian
9.0 Yoruba
2.2 WHG
they don't have any steppe ancestry because migrations that brought this type of admixture came later during the late bronze age (that's why guanches had it too) :
https://i.imgur.com/r49Q2BG.png
The Moroccan dolmens must be directly attached to the Iberian Peninsula from which came, probably at the same time, the bell beaker pottery and the first metal objects. Later, shortly before the start of the Iron Age, At the other end of the Maghreb, the megalithic Mediterranean movement, after reaching peninsular Italy, came to rest on the low coasts of the Tunisian Sahel, while, opposite Sardinia, the coast of eastern Algeria was also subject to the same influence.
https://journals.openedition.org/encyclopedieberbere/2200
see this thread also : https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?335580-Megalithic-culture-in-the-maghreb
But it surely must be a coincidence. No iberian or italian set foot in North Africa, see berbers don't have any ANE ancestry.
I was being sarcastic, i'm around 10-12% SSA not 16%. 5,6 SSA + 11 northeast african = 10-12%.
I use Dodecad World9 for Black ancestry. The Northeast African from Eurogenes is more than 50% SSA, look what Somalis and Ethiopians score.
Axios
03-28-2021, 07:43 PM
I use Dodecad World9 for Black ancestry. The Northeast African from Eurogenes is more than 50% SSA, look what Somalis and Ethiopians score.
Well this confuses me more, Baltic?
Population
Amerindian 0.71 Pct
East_Asian -
African 14.45 Pct
Atlantic_Baltic 30.32 Pct
Australasian 0.26 Pct
Siberian 0.95 Pct
Caucasus_Gedrosia 5.84 Pct
Southern 46.06 Pct
South_Asian 1.41 Pct
Petalpusher
03-28-2021, 07:46 PM
What was brought up after the copper age was, again, not steppe but CHG/Iran stuff, and then likely by some of the Arab conquests. The calculator sees that as Steppe because it has no other choice anyway, but when you estimate ANE with a calculator designed to do it (K7 ANE) it shows none.
Btw, how Sardinia and Ibera_CA are Copper Age North Africans?!
Well this confuses me more, Baltic?
Population
Amerindian 0.71 Pct
East_Asian -
African 14.45 Pct
Atlantic_Baltic 30.32 Pct
Australasian 0.26 Pct
Siberian 0.95 Pct
Caucasus_Gedrosia 5.84 Pct
Southern 46.06 Pct
South_Asian 1.41 Pct
Ignore that, they just merged Western and Eastern Europe into one component. Focus on the African. I think you're about 15% Noir ;) Which is lower than the Moroccan average (~20%).
Hamilcar
03-28-2021, 07:47 PM
I was experimenting, trying to reach the 3% figure. I know that if i remove it the distance gets worse because it should be there.
Anyway i find that this run ( http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/ULTIMATE%20ANCIENT%20COMPONENTS.htm ) is a lot better for me for whatever reason. It halved my distance:
Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 2.5356% / 0.02535624
50.2 Early_European_Farmer
33.6 Steppe_Pastoralist
10.6 Western_Hunter-Gatherer
4.6 Iberomaurusian
1.0 Africa_Mesolithic
yes seems pretty accurate and your results are in accordance with what the studies tell us regarding your NA admixture :
Within the Iberian Peninsula, the admixture proportion of North African ancestry in southern Portugal samples was 11.17 ± 1.87%, similar to the values observed in Galicia (10.30 ± 1.64%) and western Andalusia (present study, 9.28 ± 1.79%).[/B] The Canary Islands (not selected here) exhibit extreme values of the inferred Maghrebi cluster (26%) (Guillen-Guio et al. 2018). Asni Berbers carry the highest proportion of the native Maghrebi ancestral cluster (82.74 ± 8.36%) with respect to the other Moroccan samples.
https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/37/4/1041/5670533
so roughly 4.6 X 3 = 13.8% of north african contribution in your case
Scandal
03-28-2021, 07:49 PM
I was being sarcastic, i'm around 10-12% SSA not 16%. 5,6 SSA + 11 northeast african = 10-12%.
I'm saying that because in the other thread you wondered why you didn't have "black features" if you are over 10% ssa, that's a possible answer. People look at bantus and think those are the black features, but SSA are very diverse, diverse to a point that lumping them together hardly make sense.
These are hottentott-white mixes : https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?312779-How-come-that-many-White-South-Africans-have-Hottentot-admixture-(even-if-minor)&p=6451774&viewfull=1#post6451774
I'm not an expert though, Idk what type of SSA north africans have, but I think not all of your SSA ancestry is bantu.
I'm saying that because in the other thread you wondered why you didn't have "black features" if you are over 10% ssa, that's a possible answer. People look at bantus and think those are the black features, but SSA area very diverse, diverse to a point that lumping them together hardly make sense.
These are hottentott-white mixes : https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?312779-How-come-that-many-White-South-Africans-have-Hottentot-admixture-(even-if-minor)&p=6451774&viewfull=1#post6451774
I'm not an expert though, Idk what type of SSA north africans have, but I think not all of your SSA ancestry is bantu.
The West Africans are the true Blacks (most prominent) and they are also the most numerous.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/dd/aa/b2/ddaab2169a9fa4e9ecafa5c6bf6766a7.jpg
Axios
03-28-2021, 07:53 PM
Ignore that, they just merged Western and Eastern Europe into one component. Focus on the African. I think you're about 15% Noir ;) Which is lower than the Moroccan average (~20%).
Yeah, 10-12-14.5% depending on the calculator, thats more or less the range for me. BLM http://s3.amazonaws.com/pix.iemoji.com/images/emoji/apple/ios-12/256/folded-hands-dark-skin-tone.png
Petalpusher
03-28-2021, 07:56 PM
Ignore that, they just merged Western and Eastern Europe into one component. Focus on the African. I think you're about 15% Noir ;) Which is lower than the Moroccan average (~20%).
It definetly comes from his mesolithic kind of WHG though, it's a calculator effect as i ve tried to explain in the previous posts, it can only see that as "Atlantic_Baltic" because it has no other choice anyway. Most Euro score very high of this on this calculator. I get like +70.
Scandal
03-28-2021, 07:56 PM
The West Africans are the true Blacks (most prominent) and they are also the most numerous.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/dd/aa/b2/ddaab2169a9fa4e9ecafa5c6bf6766a7.jpg
San people are also technically "subsaharan" therefore black, yet look very different. So what type of SSA do North africans have?
Hamilcar
03-28-2021, 07:58 PM
What was brought up after the copper age was, again, not steppe but CHG/Iran stuff, and then likely by some of the Arab conquests. The calculator sees that as Steppe because it has no other choice anyway, but when you estimate ANE with a calculator designed to do it (K7 ANE) it shows none.
Btw, how Sardinia and Ibera_CA are Copper Age North Africans?!
hahaha sure now bell beakers in Iberia were CHG/Iran_N shifted and had nothing to do with steppe invaders :
For the Iron Age, we document a consistent trend of increased ancestry related to Northern and Central European populations with respect to the preceding Bronze Age (Figs. 1, C and D, and 2B). The increase was 10 to 19% (95% confidence intervals given here and in the percentages that follow) in 15 individuals along the Mediterranean coast where non-Indo-European Iberian languages were spoken; 11 to 31% in two individuals at the Tartessian site of La Angorrilla in the southwest with uncertain language attribution; and 28 to 43% in three individuals at La Hoya in the north where Indo-European Celtiberian languages were likely spoken (fig. S6 and tables S11 and S12). This trend documents gene flow into Iberia during the Late Bronze Age or Early Iron Age, possibly associated with the introduction of the Urnfield tradition (18). Unlike in Central or Northern Europe, where Steppe ancestry likely marked the introduction of Indo-European languages (12), our results indicate that, in Iberia, increases in Steppe ancestry were not always accompanied by switches to Indo-European languages. This is consistent with the genetic profile of present-day Basques who speak the only non-Indo-European language in Western Europe but overlap genetically with Iron Age populations (Fig. 1D) showing substantial levels of Steppe ancestry.
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/363/6432/1230
Also I don't see why you bring CHG/Iran_N while my model includes both of them but still it seems the calculator prefers steppe over them.
and yes they were north africans :
Our Copper Age dataset includes a newly reported male (I4246) from Camino de las Yeseras (14) in central Iberia, radiocarbon dated to 2473–2030 calibrated years BCE, who clusters with modern and ancient North Africans in the PCA (Fig. 1C and fig. S3) and, like ~3000 BCE Moroccans (8), can be well modeled as having ancestry from both Late Pleistocene North Africans (15) and Early Neolithic Europeans (tables S9 and S10). His genome-wide ancestry and uniparental markers (tables S1 and S4) are unique among Copper Age Iberians, including individuals from sites with many analyzed individuals such as Sima del Ángel, and point to a North African origin.
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/363/6432/1230
The most surprising is Sardinia_Chalcolithic15940 from the site of Anghelu Ruju, for whom we obtained a radiocarbon date of 2345– 2146 cal. bc from the same bone sample that we analysed for DNA. We modelled this individual as 22.7±2.4% Anatolia_Neolithic and 77.3±2.4% Morocco_EN (P=0.321). This individual is similar in ancestry composition to the approximately contemporary Iberian individual I4246 from the site of Camino de las Yeseras, radiocarbon dated to 2473–2030 cal. bc, who also had North-African related ancestry as well as the same mtDNA haplogroup M1a1b1 and Y-chromosome haplogroup E1b1b1, which are both typical of North Africans25 (Supplementary Table 14). The finding of African to-European gene flow in both individuals shows that such movement was widespread across the Mediterranean long before the classical period when such gene flow became intensive and the ancestries had a larger demographic impact.
https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/sites/reich.hms.harvard.edu/files/inline-files/2020_Fernandes_NatEcolEvol_WestMediterranean_0.pdf
The West Africans are the true Blacks (most prominent) and they are also the most numerous.
Apparently they are extremely diverse genetically just not much research focused on their genetics. Skin color wise Nillotics from Sudan and nearby areas are the blackest. I think Token posted some study of Fulani which showed they have some Caucasoid admixture.
Axios
03-28-2021, 08:00 PM
San people are also technically "subsaharan" therefore black, yet look very different. So what type of SSA do North africans have?
I found lots of threads in anthrogenica talking about what type of SSA north africans have, they talked a lot about "ancient ssa" whatever that is.
San people are also technically "subsaharan" therefore black, yet look very different. So what type of SSA do North africans have?
The San and similar small groups are like the Sami and Maltese in Europe, i.e. total outliers, not representative. Logically the SSA in Northwest Africa should be from the Sahel zone (Niger, Mali, Senegal).
San people are also technically "subsaharan" therefore black, yet look very different. So what type of SSA do North africans have?
Yeah and not only looks wise San people are very different from Bantus genetically, almost like different race.
Apparently they are extremely diverse genetically just not much research focused on their genetics. Skin color wise Nillotics from Sudan and nearby areas are the blackest. I think Token posted some study of Fulani which showed they have some Caucasoid admixture.
That argument is often cited ("the most diverse continent") but I think their diversity is boosted by the Horn of Africa and some other groups which are not fully African by ancestry.
The San and similar small groups are like the Sami and Maltese in Europe, i.e. total outliers, not representative. Logically the SSA in Northwest Africa should be from the Sahel zone (Niger, Mali, Senegal).
Maltese aren't total outliers in Europe at all. They are almost identical to Sicilians genetically.
Maltese aren't total outliers in Europe at all. They are almost identical to Sicilians genetically.
They are part North African and speak a Semitic language with Italian loanwords. Anyway, you got my point.
That argument is often cited ("the most diverse continent") but I think their diversity is boosted by the Horn of Africa and some other groups which are not fully African by ancestry.
Could be as horners have Arab admix. Btw blacks from Sahel countries have some Berber and Tuareg like ancestry.
They are part North African and speak a Semitic language with Italian loanwords. Anyway, you got my point.
It's weird how they speak Semitic language indeed, but genetically speaking they aren't much different from deep south Italians and Greek islanders.
North African and SSA input is found in Sicily as well and from what I remember in some Greek islands like Crete.
Hamilcar
03-28-2021, 08:11 PM
It's weird how they speak Semitic language indeed, but genetically speaking they aren't much different from deep south Italians and Greek islanders.
North African and SSA input is found in Sicily as well and from what I remember in some Greek islands like Crete.
Malta was repopulated by sicilians after they expelled the local muslim populations during the XIIIth century (but I suppose not all of them were expelled hence why there is still a strong arabic influence on their dialect)
Petalpusher
03-28-2021, 08:15 PM
hahaha sure now bell beakers in Iberia were CHG/Iran_N shifted and had nothing to do with steppe invaders :
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/363/6432/1230
I was talking about N.Africa not Iberia, im aware Iberia had some BB... I still don't see why it's such a surprise that before the Bronze Age, Iberians didn't have any..Bronze Age. N.Africa didn't get the same Bronze Age as in Europe. If you mean In Iberia they were somewhat "ethnically" N.Africans at that particular time there, then ok but then got "replaced" and N.Africans back home didn't. You don't even need any autosomal to know that, where are all your R1a and R1b if you had some real steppe, everybody knows NA don't have any relevant IE.
Also I don't see why you bring CHG/Iran_N while my model includes both of them but still it seems the calculator prefers steppe over them.
Of course it's not entirely some CHG guys from 10Ky of the Satsurblia cave or the Zagros moutains who came into N.Africa, it's just population that had affinities with that (and therefore with Yamnaya too), yet still in some relatively low quantities and without ANE, or should i say EHG to make it clearer, so not like Yamnaya, only in part like it.
Hamilcar
03-28-2021, 08:32 PM
I was talking about N.Africa not Iberia, im aware Iberia had some BB... I still don't see why it's such a surprise that before the Bronze Age, Iberians didn't have any..Bronze Age. N.Africa didn't get the same Bronze Age as in Europe. If you mean In Iberia they were somewhat "ethnically" N.Africans at that particular time there, then ok but then got "replaced" and N.Africans back home didn't. You don't even need any aotsomal to know that, where are all your R1a and R1b if you had some steppe, everybody knows NA don't have any relevant IE.
There are strong archeological and genetic evidence of population movements during the bronze age from Iberia/italy to North Africa but according to you this is irrelevant and this "steppe" influence is simply some kind of CHG/iran_N influx during the bronze age while there is no evidence to back up this hypothesis ?
"where are all your R1a/r1b ?" why do you pretend you had never heard of the founder effect with E-m81 that happened 2000 years ago ?
everybody knows by now that NAs do have steppe ancestry only you seem to deny it.
strange copper age north africans show no steppe ancestry nor big amounts of CHG/Iran_N but after the bronze age guanches already had similar amounts of steppe ancestry than modern coastal north africans but it's surely simply a coincidence :picard2:
Of course it's not entirely some CHG guys from 10Ky of the Satsurblia cave or the Zagros moutains who came into N.Africa, it's just population that had affinities with that (and therefore with Yamnaya too), yet still in some relatively low quantities and without ANE, or should i say EHG to make it clearer, so not like Yamnaya, only in part like it.
like I said there is not a single evidence of such event meanwhile there is strong evidence of europeans settling in the maghreb ....north africans surely must have built these dolmens/megaliths by coincidence. You're clearly dishonest and I was right such obsessions with north africans is not normal.
Tu n'est clairement pas dans une optique scientifique et objective, tu interprète les résultats à ta guise pour que cela s'accorde avec ta vision caricaturale des nord africains.
Damião de Góis
03-28-2021, 08:38 PM
yes seems pretty accurate and your results are in accordance with what the studies tell us regarding your NA admixture :
https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/37/4/1041/5670533
so roughly 4.6 X 3 = 13.8% of north african contribution in your case
Do you have a model that would give me ~14% ?
Hamilcar
03-28-2021, 08:46 PM
Do you have a model that would give me ~14% ?
davidsky closed one part of his site so I can't access to the coordinates I want but let's try with this :
Basque_Spanish,0.132035,0.146236,0.059585,0.008075 ,0.060934,0.008367,0.003995,-0.006231,0.026997,0.047564,-0.008282,0.008393,-0.018285,-0.019542,0.011401,0.00769,0.001434,0.014569,-0.004022,0.006128,0.012977,-0.003586,-0.007765,-0.004217,0.004071
Basque_Spanish,0.134311,0.15436,0.056945,0.00646,0 .056934,-0.002789,-0.002585,-0.003231,0.032928,0.046288,-0.012666,0.008542,-0.025718,-0.026424,0.011943,-0.000398,-0.01343,0.001394,-0.001131,0.004252,0.006988,-0.005564,-0.012448,-0.006868,0.005868
German:,0.12862,0.132019,0.05242,0.042959,0.051086 ,0.025379,0.006345,0.006692,-0.005727,-0.005285,-0.016888,0.003447,-0.002973,-0.007019,0.011536,0.007027,-0.001173,-0.002407,-0.002765,0.002876,0.007112,-0.005193,-0.001232,0.01217,-0.000479
German,0.118376,0.127957,0.060339,0.043928,0.04062 3,0.005299,-0.00188,0.010615,0.002659,-0.002187,-0.001949,-0.002698,-0.002973,-0.003303,-0.002579,0.003978,-0.00326,0.011402,0.001383,0.004752,-0.004742,0.005935,0.007888,0.016026,-0.00012
Levantine:149532,0.083091,0.152329,-0.060716,-0.089471,-0.011387,-0.034582,-0.002585,-0.011769,0.018612,0.006196,0.002923,-0.011989,0.025272,0.012799,-0.006107,0.007425,-0.005867,0.00152,0.007416,0.000875,-0.001373,0.005564,-0.003204,-0.002169,0.002634
Levantine:149533,0.088782,0.150298,-0.058454,-0.095931,-0.007078,-0.036535,-0.00188,-0.007384,0.015135,0.006743,0.013153,-0.010191,0.023042,0.015827,-0.0057,-0.003845,-0.013299,-0.000887,-0.000503,-0.005628,-0.002745,0.006059,0.002835,-0.00241,0.009101
Italian,0.105855,0.152329,-0.012445,-0.048127,0.016311,-0.007809,0.000235,0.002308,0.005727,0.019317,-0.004384,-0.003147,-0.002825,0.00867,-0.011943,-0.010209,-0.005867,-0.00152,0.003771,-0.014132,-0.007487,0.000742,0.006039,0.001566,-0.007424
Italian,0.104717,0.153345,-0.012068,-0.0323,0.013233,-0.011713,-0.00188,-0.001846,0.003068,0.027335,0.000487,-0.000899,-0.007582,0.001789,-0.002036,-0.011005,-0.00691,0.003927,0.015587,-0.003126,-0.009858,0.008779,-0.003451,0.009158,0.005748
Berber,-0.021626,0.146236,-0.009051,-0.088502,0.030775,-0.041276,-0.032901,-0.001846,0.069538,0.030616,0.001137,-0.015286,0.024529,-0.016652,0.018322,-0.027844,-0.007302,-0.022551,-0.040475,0.012131,-0.014599,-0.035859,0.026498,-0.005543,0.009939
Berber,-0.033009,0.140143,-0.001508,-0.079135,0.024928,-0.035977,-0.035957,0.010615,0.070765,0.029887,0.00406,-0.005545,0.020367,-0.004542,0.016965,-0.019491,-0.002868,-0.027998,-0.050154,0.012756,-0.011605,-0.035365,0.027114,-0.003133,0.002634
Yoruba,-0.628304,0.061947,0.021496,0.01615,-0.001539,0.003347,-0.042067,0.049152,-0.050108,0.030616,-0.000974,0.003897,0.023191,-0.006468,0.00475,-0.004773,0.005737,-0.007601,0.00729,-0.002876,0.004991,0.000495,-0.006409,0.002771,-0.005029
Yoruba,-0.627165,0.060932,0.019987,0.01615,0.001539,0.0178 49,-0.043947,0.043152,-0.050722,0.029522,0.006008,0.001199,0.01888,-0.00055,0.011672,-0.012729,0.00665,0.002027,0.008296,-0.007629,0.004617,0.007172,-0.000863,-0.003253,0.004191
random portuguese :
Target: Portuguese:EBC_Portugal10
Distance: 2.0694% / 0.02069399
50.8 Basque_Spanish
20.4 German
13.0 Berber
13.0 Italian
2.8 Levantine
Target: Portuguese:EBC_Portugal11
Distance: 2.2761% / 0.02276054
49.2 Basque_Spanish
24.2 German
13.0 Berber
8.2 Levantine
5.4 Italian
Defcon2
03-28-2021, 08:53 PM
davidsky closed one part of his site so I can't access to the coordinates I want but let's try with this :
Basque_Spanish,0.132035,0.146236,0.059585,0.008075 ,0.060934,0.008367,0.003995,-0.006231,0.026997,0.047564,-0.008282,0.008393,-0.018285,-0.019542,0.011401,0.00769,0.001434,0.014569,-0.004022,0.006128,0.012977,-0.003586,-0.007765,-0.004217,0.004071
Basque_Spanish,0.134311,0.15436,0.056945,0.00646,0 .056934,-0.002789,-0.002585,-0.003231,0.032928,0.046288,-0.012666,0.008542,-0.025718,-0.026424,0.011943,-0.000398,-0.01343,0.001394,-0.001131,0.004252,0.006988,-0.005564,-0.012448,-0.006868,0.005868
German:,0.12862,0.132019,0.05242,0.042959,0.051086 ,0.025379,0.006345,0.006692,-0.005727,-0.005285,-0.016888,0.003447,-0.002973,-0.007019,0.011536,0.007027,-0.001173,-0.002407,-0.002765,0.002876,0.007112,-0.005193,-0.001232,0.01217,-0.000479
German,0.118376,0.127957,0.060339,0.043928,0.04062 3,0.005299,-0.00188,0.010615,0.002659,-0.002187,-0.001949,-0.002698,-0.002973,-0.003303,-0.002579,0.003978,-0.00326,0.011402,0.001383,0.004752,-0.004742,0.005935,0.007888,0.016026,-0.00012
Levantine:149532,0.083091,0.152329,-0.060716,-0.089471,-0.011387,-0.034582,-0.002585,-0.011769,0.018612,0.006196,0.002923,-0.011989,0.025272,0.012799,-0.006107,0.007425,-0.005867,0.00152,0.007416,0.000875,-0.001373,0.005564,-0.003204,-0.002169,0.002634
Levantine:149533,0.088782,0.150298,-0.058454,-0.095931,-0.007078,-0.036535,-0.00188,-0.007384,0.015135,0.006743,0.013153,-0.010191,0.023042,0.015827,-0.0057,-0.003845,-0.013299,-0.000887,-0.000503,-0.005628,-0.002745,0.006059,0.002835,-0.00241,0.009101
Italian,0.105855,0.152329,-0.012445,-0.048127,0.016311,-0.007809,0.000235,0.002308,0.005727,0.019317,-0.004384,-0.003147,-0.002825,0.00867,-0.011943,-0.010209,-0.005867,-0.00152,0.003771,-0.014132,-0.007487,0.000742,0.006039,0.001566,-0.007424
Italian,0.104717,0.153345,-0.012068,-0.0323,0.013233,-0.011713,-0.00188,-0.001846,0.003068,0.027335,0.000487,-0.000899,-0.007582,0.001789,-0.002036,-0.011005,-0.00691,0.003927,0.015587,-0.003126,-0.009858,0.008779,-0.003451,0.009158,0.005748
Berber,-0.021626,0.146236,-0.009051,-0.088502,0.030775,-0.041276,-0.032901,-0.001846,0.069538,0.030616,0.001137,-0.015286,0.024529,-0.016652,0.018322,-0.027844,-0.007302,-0.022551,-0.040475,0.012131,-0.014599,-0.035859,0.026498,-0.005543,0.009939
Berber,-0.033009,0.140143,-0.001508,-0.079135,0.024928,-0.035977,-0.035957,0.010615,0.070765,0.029887,0.00406,-0.005545,0.020367,-0.004542,0.016965,-0.019491,-0.002868,-0.027998,-0.050154,0.012756,-0.011605,-0.035365,0.027114,-0.003133,0.002634
Yoruba,-0.628304,0.061947,0.021496,0.01615,-0.001539,0.003347,-0.042067,0.049152,-0.050108,0.030616,-0.000974,0.003897,0.023191,-0.006468,0.00475,-0.004773,0.005737,-0.007601,0.00729,-0.002876,0.004991,0.000495,-0.006409,0.002771,-0.005029
Yoruba,-0.627165,0.060932,0.019987,0.01615,0.001539,0.0178 49,-0.043947,0.043152,-0.050722,0.029522,0.006008,0.001199,0.01888,-0.00055,0.011672,-0.012729,0.00665,0.002027,0.008296,-0.007629,0.004617,0.007172,-0.000863,-0.003253,0.004191
random portuguese :
Target: Portuguese:EBC_Portugal10
Distance: 2.0694% / 0.02069399
50.8 Basque_Spanish
20.4 German
13.0 Berber
13.0 Italian
2.8 Levantine
Target: Portuguese:EBC_Portugal11
Distance: 2.2761% / 0.02276054
49.2 Basque_Spanish
24.2 German
13.0 Berber
8.2 Levantine
5.4 Italian
F*** :confused:
Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.5607% / 0.02560681
57.6 Basque_Spanish
24.0 Italian
12.0 German
3.4 Berber
3.0 Yoruba
Without Yoruba, the fit worsens a bit but is more believable:
Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.8917% / 0.02891685
49.8 Basque_Spanish
19.2 Italian
18.6 German
12.4 Berber
Petalpusher
03-28-2021, 09:10 PM
There are strong archeological and genetic evidence of population movements during the bronze age from Iberia/italy to North Africa but according to you this is irrelevant and this "steppe" influence is simply some kind of CHG/iran_N influx during the bronze age while there is no evidence to back up this hypothesis ?
"where are all your R1a/r1b ?" why do you pretend you had never heard of the founder effect with E-m81 that happened 2000 years ago ?
everybody knows by now that NAs do have steppe ancestry only you seem to deny it.
strange copper age north africans show no steppe ancestry nor big amounts of CHG/Iran_N but after the bronze age guanches already had similar amounts of steppe ancestry than modern coastal north africans but it's surely simply a coincidence :picard2:
like I said there is not a single evidence of such event meanwhile there is strong evidence of europeans settling in the maghreb ....north africans surely must have built these dolmens/megaliths by coincidence. You're clearly dishonest and I was right such obsessions with north africans is not normal.
Tu n'est clairement pas dans une optique scientifique et objective, tu interprète les résultats à ta guise pour que cela s'accorde avec ta vision caricaturale des nord africains.
Sure let's take the Guanches as the representative epithome of N.Africa. Are you claiming the Canarias back?
There s every evidence that North Africa, as in you know this huge chunk of Africa located in its Northwest, has never been invaded by steppe people, you really think anyone is gonna believe this nonsense? I mean yes a few Vandals there and there, but not anywhere near the violent population replacement West Eurasia went through.
What does an haplogroup founder effect has to do with the fact that North Africa as a whole has no IE markers? Only in some big towns like Oran on the coastal line you can find low amounts which were brought there in more recent times obviously. Everywhelse no R1, but one steppe invader went for a trip in North Africa, with for some reasons an E and every women fucked him in line? is that what you are saying?
Megaliths are a neolithic architecture, no such thing as IE at that time, only exchange with Iberian cultures. What a clusterfuck of confusions.
Damião de Góis
03-28-2021, 09:38 PM
davidsky closed one part of his site so I can't access to the coordinates I want but let's try with this :
Basque_Spanish,0.132035,0.146236,0.059585,0.008075 ,0.060934,0.008367,0.003995,-0.006231,0.026997,0.047564,-0.008282,0.008393,-0.018285,-0.019542,0.011401,0.00769,0.001434,0.014569,-0.004022,0.006128,0.012977,-0.003586,-0.007765,-0.004217,0.004071
Basque_Spanish,0.134311,0.15436,0.056945,0.00646,0 .056934,-0.002789,-0.002585,-0.003231,0.032928,0.046288,-0.012666,0.008542,-0.025718,-0.026424,0.011943,-0.000398,-0.01343,0.001394,-0.001131,0.004252,0.006988,-0.005564,-0.012448,-0.006868,0.005868
German:,0.12862,0.132019,0.05242,0.042959,0.051086 ,0.025379,0.006345,0.006692,-0.005727,-0.005285,-0.016888,0.003447,-0.002973,-0.007019,0.011536,0.007027,-0.001173,-0.002407,-0.002765,0.002876,0.007112,-0.005193,-0.001232,0.01217,-0.000479
German,0.118376,0.127957,0.060339,0.043928,0.04062 3,0.005299,-0.00188,0.010615,0.002659,-0.002187,-0.001949,-0.002698,-0.002973,-0.003303,-0.002579,0.003978,-0.00326,0.011402,0.001383,0.004752,-0.004742,0.005935,0.007888,0.016026,-0.00012
Levantine:149532,0.083091,0.152329,-0.060716,-0.089471,-0.011387,-0.034582,-0.002585,-0.011769,0.018612,0.006196,0.002923,-0.011989,0.025272,0.012799,-0.006107,0.007425,-0.005867,0.00152,0.007416,0.000875,-0.001373,0.005564,-0.003204,-0.002169,0.002634
Levantine:149533,0.088782,0.150298,-0.058454,-0.095931,-0.007078,-0.036535,-0.00188,-0.007384,0.015135,0.006743,0.013153,-0.010191,0.023042,0.015827,-0.0057,-0.003845,-0.013299,-0.000887,-0.000503,-0.005628,-0.002745,0.006059,0.002835,-0.00241,0.009101
Italian,0.105855,0.152329,-0.012445,-0.048127,0.016311,-0.007809,0.000235,0.002308,0.005727,0.019317,-0.004384,-0.003147,-0.002825,0.00867,-0.011943,-0.010209,-0.005867,-0.00152,0.003771,-0.014132,-0.007487,0.000742,0.006039,0.001566,-0.007424
Italian,0.104717,0.153345,-0.012068,-0.0323,0.013233,-0.011713,-0.00188,-0.001846,0.003068,0.027335,0.000487,-0.000899,-0.007582,0.001789,-0.002036,-0.011005,-0.00691,0.003927,0.015587,-0.003126,-0.009858,0.008779,-0.003451,0.009158,0.005748
Berber,-0.021626,0.146236,-0.009051,-0.088502,0.030775,-0.041276,-0.032901,-0.001846,0.069538,0.030616,0.001137,-0.015286,0.024529,-0.016652,0.018322,-0.027844,-0.007302,-0.022551,-0.040475,0.012131,-0.014599,-0.035859,0.026498,-0.005543,0.009939
Berber,-0.033009,0.140143,-0.001508,-0.079135,0.024928,-0.035977,-0.035957,0.010615,0.070765,0.029887,0.00406,-0.005545,0.020367,-0.004542,0.016965,-0.019491,-0.002868,-0.027998,-0.050154,0.012756,-0.011605,-0.035365,0.027114,-0.003133,0.002634
Yoruba,-0.628304,0.061947,0.021496,0.01615,-0.001539,0.003347,-0.042067,0.049152,-0.050108,0.030616,-0.000974,0.003897,0.023191,-0.006468,0.00475,-0.004773,0.005737,-0.007601,0.00729,-0.002876,0.004991,0.000495,-0.006409,0.002771,-0.005029
Yoruba,-0.627165,0.060932,0.019987,0.01615,0.001539,0.0178 49,-0.043947,0.043152,-0.050722,0.029522,0.006008,0.001199,0.01888,-0.00055,0.011672,-0.012729,0.00665,0.002027,0.008296,-0.007629,0.004617,0.007172,-0.000863,-0.003253,0.004191
random portuguese :
Target: Portuguese:EBC_Portugal10
Distance: 2.0694% / 0.02069399
50.8 Basque_Spanish
20.4 German
13.0 Berber
13.0 Italian
2.8 Levantine
Target: Portuguese:EBC_Portugal11
Distance: 2.2761% / 0.02276054
49.2 Basque_Spanish
24.2 German
13.0 Berber
8.2 Levantine
5.4 Italian
Doesn't quite work for me, i get similar results to Defcon, meaning i have to tweak it to get near.
I'm not sure if multiplying Taforalt by 3 is that clear cut.
Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 1.7686% / 0.01768559
44.4 Basque_Spanish
25.8 Italian
23.6 German
3.0 Berber
2.8 Yoruba
0.4 Levantine
Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 2.2015% / 0.02201482
35.8 Basque_Spanish
30.0 German
23.2 Italian
11.0 Berber
Basque_Spanish,0.132035,0.146236,0.059585,0.008075 ,0.060934,0.008367,0.003995,-0.006231,0.026997,0.047564,-0.008282,0.008393,-0.018285,-0.019542,0.011401,0.00769,0.001434,0.014569,-0.004022,0.006128,0.012977,-0.003586,-0.007765,-0.004217,0.004071
Basque_Spanish,0.134311,0.15436,0.056945,0.00646,0 .056934,-0.002789,-0.002585,-0.003231,0.032928,0.046288,-0.012666,0.008542,-0.025718,-0.026424,0.011943,-0.000398,-0.01343,0.001394,-0.001131,0.004252,0.006988,-0.005564,-0.012448,-0.006868,0.005868
German:,0.12862,0.132019,0.05242,0.042959,0.051086 ,0.025379,0.006345,0.006692,-0.005727,-0.005285,-0.016888,0.003447,-0.002973,-0.007019,0.011536,0.007027,-0.001173,-0.002407,-0.002765,0.002876,0.007112,-0.005193,-0.001232,0.01217,-0.000479
German,0.118376,0.127957,0.060339,0.043928,0.04062 3,0.005299,-0.00188,0.010615,0.002659,-0.002187,-0.001949,-0.002698,-0.002973,-0.003303,-0.002579,0.003978,-0.00326,0.011402,0.001383,0.004752,-0.004742,0.005935,0.007888,0.016026,-0.00012
Levantine:149532,0.083091,0.152329,-0.060716,-0.089471,-0.011387,-0.034582,-0.002585,-0.011769,0.018612,0.006196,0.002923,-0.011989,0.025272,0.012799,-0.006107,0.007425,-0.005867,0.00152,0.007416,0.000875,-0.001373,0.005564,-0.003204,-0.002169,0.002634
Levantine:149533,0.088782,0.150298,-0.058454,-0.095931,-0.007078,-0.036535,-0.00188,-0.007384,0.015135,0.006743,0.013153,-0.010191,0.023042,0.015827,-0.0057,-0.003845,-0.013299,-0.000887,-0.000503,-0.005628,-0.002745,0.006059,0.002835,-0.00241,0.009101
Italian,0.105855,0.152329,-0.012445,-0.048127,0.016311,-0.007809,0.000235,0.002308,0.005727,0.019317,-0.004384,-0.003147,-0.002825,0.00867,-0.011943,-0.010209,-0.005867,-0.00152,0.003771,-0.014132,-0.007487,0.000742,0.006039,0.001566,-0.007424
Italian,0.104717,0.153345,-0.012068,-0.0323,0.013233,-0.011713,-0.00188,-0.001846,0.003068,0.027335,0.000487,-0.000899,-0.007582,0.001789,-0.002036,-0.011005,-0.00691,0.003927,0.015587,-0.003126,-0.009858,0.008779,-0.003451,0.009158,0.005748
Berber,-0.021626,0.146236,-0.009051,-0.088502,0.030775,-0.041276,-0.032901,-0.001846,0.069538,0.030616,0.001137,-0.015286,0.024529,-0.016652,0.018322,-0.027844,-0.007302,-0.022551,-0.040475,0.012131,-0.014599,-0.035859,0.026498,-0.005543,0.009939
Berber,-0.033009,0.140143,-0.001508,-0.079135,0.024928,-0.035977,-0.035957,0.010615,0.070765,0.029887,0.00406,-0.005545,0.020367,-0.004542,0.016965,-0.019491,-0.002868,-0.027998,-0.050154,0.012756,-0.011605,-0.035365,0.027114,-0.003133,0.002634
Yoruba,-0.628304,0.061947,0.021496,0.01615,-0.001539,0.003347,-0.042067,0.049152,-0.050108,0.030616,-0.000974,0.003897,0.023191,-0.006468,0.00475,-0.004773,0.005737,-0.007601,0.00729,-0.002876,0.004991,0.000495,-0.006409,0.002771,-0.005029
Yoruba,-0.627165,0.060932,0.019987,0.01615,0.001539,0.0178 49,-0.043947,0.043152,-0.050722,0.029522,0.006008,0.001199,0.01888,-0.00055,0.011672,-0.012729,0.00665,0.002027,0.008296,-0.007629,0.004617,0.007172,-0.000863,-0.003253,0.004191
Target: Luso_scaled
Distance: 2.3292% / 0.02329194
48.4 Basque_Spanish
20.4 German
19.0 Italian
10.6 Berber
1.6 Yoruba
Pedro Ruben
03-28-2021, 10:05 PM
[QUOTE=Hamilcar;7155653]davidsky closed one part of his site so I can't access to the coordinates I want but let's try with this :
Basque_Spanish,0.132035,0.146236,0.059585,0.008075 ,0.060934,0.008367,0.003995,-0.006231,0.026997,0.047564,-0.008282,0.008393,-0.018285,-0.019542,0.011401,0.00769,0.001434,0.014569,-0.004022,0.006128,0.012977,-0.003586,-0.007765,-0.004217,0.004071
Basque_Spanish,0.134311,0.15436,0.056945,0.00646,0 .056934,-0.002789,-0.002585,-0.003231,0.032928,0.046288,-0.012666,0.008542,-0.025718,-0.026424,0.011943,-0.000398,-0.01343,0.001394,-0.001131,0.004252,0.006988,-0.005564,-0.012448,-0.006868,0.005868
German:,0.12862,0.132019,0.05242,0.042959,0.051086 ,0.025379,0.006345,0.006692,-0.005727,-0.005285,-0.016888,0.003447,-0.002973,-0.007019,0.011536,0.007027,-0.001173,-0.002407,-0.002765,0.002876,0.007112,-0.005193,-0.001232,0.01217,-0.000479
German,0.118376,0.127957,0.060339,0.043928,0.04062 3,0.005299,-0.00188,0.010615,0.002659,-0.002187,-0.001949,-0.002698,-0.002973,-0.003303,-0.002579,0.003978,-0.00326,0.011402,0.001383,0.004752,-0.004742,0.005935,0.007888,0.016026,-0.00012
Levantine:149532,0.083091,0.152329,-0.060716,-0.089471,-0.011387,-0.034582,-0.002585,-0.011769,0.018612,0.006196,0.002923,-0.011989,0.025272,0.012799,-0.006107,0.007425,-0.005867,0.00152,0.007416,0.000875,-0.001373,0.005564,-0.003204,-0.002169,0.002634
Levantine:149533,0.088782,0.150298,-0.058454,-0.095931,-0.007078,-0.036535,-0.00188,-0.007384,0.015135,0.006743,0.013153,-0.010191,0.023042,0.015827,-0.0057,-0.003845,-0.013299,-0.000887,-0.000503,-0.005628,-0.002745,0.006059,0.002835,-0.00241,0.009101
Italian,0.105855,0.152329,-0.012445,-0.048127,0.016311,-0.007809,0.000235,0.002308,0.005727,0.019317,-0.004384,-0.003147,-0.002825,0.00867,-0.011943,-0.010209,-0.005867,-0.00152,0.003771,-0.014132,-0.007487,0.000742,0.006039,0.001566,-0.007424
Italian,0.104717,0.153345,-0.012068,-0.0323,0.013233,-0.011713,-0.00188,-0.001846,0.003068,0.027335,0.000487,-0.000899,-0.007582,0.001789,-0.002036,-0.011005,-0.00691,0.003927,0.015587,-0.003126,-0.009858,0.008779,-0.003451,0.009158,0.005748
Berber,-0.021626,0.146236,-0.009051,-0.088502,0.030775,-0.041276,-0.032901,-0.001846,0.069538,0.030616,0.001137,-0.015286,0.024529,-0.016652,0.018322,-0.027844,-0.007302,-0.022551,-0.040475,0.012131,-0.014599,-0.035859,0.026498,-0.005543,0.009939
Berber,-0.033009,0.140143,-0.001508,-0.079135,0.024928,-0.035977,-0.035957,0.010615,0.070765,0.029887,0.00406,-0.005545,0.020367,-0.004542,0.016965,-0.019491,-0.002868,-0.027998,-0.050154,0.012756,-0.011605,-0.035365,0.027114,-0.003133,0.002634
Yoruba,-0.628304,0.061947,0.021496,0.01615,-0.001539,0.003347,-0.042067,0.049152,-0.050108,0.030616,-0.000974,0.003897,0.023191,-0.006468,0.00475,-0.004773,0.005737,-0.007601,0.00729,-0.002876,0.004991,0.000495,-0.006409,0.002771,-0.005029
Yoruba,-0.627165,0.060932,0.019987,0.01615,0.001539,0.0178 49,-0.043947,0.043152,-0.050722,0.029522,0.006008,0.001199,0.01888,-0.00055,0.011672,-0.012729,0.00665,0.002027,0.008296,-0.007629,0.004617,0.007172,-0.000863,-0.003253,0.004191
Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 1.8223% / 0.01822252
38.8 Basque_Spanish
29.8 German
17.2 Italian
11.6 Berber
2.6 Yoruba
Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 1.7696% / 0.01769587
44.4 Basque_Spanish
25.0 German
15.4 Berber
12.2 Italian
3.0 Yoruba
Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 1.7587% / 0.01758737
51.0 Basque_Spanish
24.8 German
14.0 Italian
7.6 Berber
2.6 Yoruba
Target: Philou_scaled
Distance: 2.9437% / 0.02943683
60.6 Basque_Spanish
31.2 German
8.2 Italian
Target: Philou_scaled
Distance: 2.6699% / 0.02669894
65.0 Basque_French
18.4 French_Brittany
9.2 German
7.4 Italian
Target: Philou_scaled
Distance: 2.0721% / 0.02072098
23.4 Basque_Spanish_Alava
22.8 French_Landes_Chalosse
19.4 German
16.6 Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West
13.6 Basque_French_Lower_Navarre
4.2 Italian
I am very very Basque shifted and even according to my genealogy, i don't understand why so much.
gixajo
03-28-2021, 10:38 PM
davidsky closed one part of his site so I can't access to the coordinates I want but let's try with this :
Basque_Spanish,0.132035,0.146236,0.059585,0.008075 ,0.060934,0.008367,0.003995,-0.006231,0.026997,0.047564,-0.008282,0.008393,-0.018285,-0.019542,0.011401,0.00769,0.001434,0.014569,-0.004022,0.006128,0.012977,-0.003586,-0.007765,-0.004217,0.004071
Basque_Spanish,0.134311,0.15436,0.056945,0.00646,0 .056934,-0.002789,-0.002585,-0.003231,0.032928,0.046288,-0.012666,0.008542,-0.025718,-0.026424,0.011943,-0.000398,-0.01343,0.001394,-0.001131,0.004252,0.006988,-0.005564,-0.012448,-0.006868,0.005868
German:,0.12862,0.132019,0.05242,0.042959,0.051086 ,0.025379,0.006345,0.006692,-0.005727,-0.005285,-0.016888,0.003447,-0.002973,-0.007019,0.011536,0.007027,-0.001173,-0.002407,-0.002765,0.002876,0.007112,-0.005193,-0.001232,0.01217,-0.000479
German,0.118376,0.127957,0.060339,0.043928,0.04062 3,0.005299,-0.00188,0.010615,0.002659,-0.002187,-0.001949,-0.002698,-0.002973,-0.003303,-0.002579,0.003978,-0.00326,0.011402,0.001383,0.004752,-0.004742,0.005935,0.007888,0.016026,-0.00012
Levantine:149532,0.083091,0.152329,-0.060716,-0.089471,-0.011387,-0.034582,-0.002585,-0.011769,0.018612,0.006196,0.002923,-0.011989,0.025272,0.012799,-0.006107,0.007425,-0.005867,0.00152,0.007416,0.000875,-0.001373,0.005564,-0.003204,-0.002169,0.002634
Levantine:149533,0.088782,0.150298,-0.058454,-0.095931,-0.007078,-0.036535,-0.00188,-0.007384,0.015135,0.006743,0.013153,-0.010191,0.023042,0.015827,-0.0057,-0.003845,-0.013299,-0.000887,-0.000503,-0.005628,-0.002745,0.006059,0.002835,-0.00241,0.009101
Italian,0.105855,0.152329,-0.012445,-0.048127,0.016311,-0.007809,0.000235,0.002308,0.005727,0.019317,-0.004384,-0.003147,-0.002825,0.00867,-0.011943,-0.010209,-0.005867,-0.00152,0.003771,-0.014132,-0.007487,0.000742,0.006039,0.001566,-0.007424
Italian,0.104717,0.153345,-0.012068,-0.0323,0.013233,-0.011713,-0.00188,-0.001846,0.003068,0.027335,0.000487,-0.000899,-0.007582,0.001789,-0.002036,-0.011005,-0.00691,0.003927,0.015587,-0.003126,-0.009858,0.008779,-0.003451,0.009158,0.005748
Berber,-0.021626,0.146236,-0.009051,-0.088502,0.030775,-0.041276,-0.032901,-0.001846,0.069538,0.030616,0.001137,-0.015286,0.024529,-0.016652,0.018322,-0.027844,-0.007302,-0.022551,-0.040475,0.012131,-0.014599,-0.035859,0.026498,-0.005543,0.009939
Berber,-0.033009,0.140143,-0.001508,-0.079135,0.024928,-0.035977,-0.035957,0.010615,0.070765,0.029887,0.00406,-0.005545,0.020367,-0.004542,0.016965,-0.019491,-0.002868,-0.027998,-0.050154,0.012756,-0.011605,-0.035365,0.027114,-0.003133,0.002634
Yoruba,-0.628304,0.061947,0.021496,0.01615,-0.001539,0.003347,-0.042067,0.049152,-0.050108,0.030616,-0.000974,0.003897,0.023191,-0.006468,0.00475,-0.004773,0.005737,-0.007601,0.00729,-0.002876,0.004991,0.000495,-0.006409,0.002771,-0.005029
Yoruba,-0.627165,0.060932,0.019987,0.01615,0.001539,0.0178 49,-0.043947,0.043152,-0.050722,0.029522,0.006008,0.001199,0.01888,-0.00055,0.011672,-0.012729,0.00665,0.002027,0.008296,-0.007629,0.004617,0.007172,-0.000863,-0.003253,0.004191
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.1313% / 0.02131339
61.4 Basque_Spanish
17.6 German
16.2 Italian
4.8 Berber
Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.1246% / 0.02124586
57.6 Basque_Spanish
25.8 Italian
9.0 German
7.0 Berber
0.6 Yoruba
Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.2238% / 0.02223807
61.6 Basque_Spanish
24.4 German
9.4 Italian
4.6 Berber
Strange specially considering the origins of my parents, and considering none of both could be the best representatives of Andalusia and (Southern) Basque Country.
Cernunnos
03-28-2021, 11:02 PM
Target: Cernunnos_scaled
Distance: 1.8787% / 0.01878667
57.8 Basque_Spanish
25.2 German
11.6 Berber
5.2 Levantine
0.2 Italian
gixajo
03-28-2021, 11:03 PM
Individual samples used for the model, if anyone has curiosity about it.
Distance to: Yoruba
0.00000000 Yoruba:NA18486
Distance to: Yoruba
0.00000000 Yoruba:HGDP00944
Distance to: Berber
0.00000000 Berber_Tunisia_Chen:T12
Distance to: Berber
0.00000000 Berber_Tunisia_Chen:T11
Distance to: Italian
0.00000000 Italian_Campania:CMP_b003_2
Distance to: Italian
0.00000000 Italian_Campania:CMP_b002_2
Distance to: Levantine:149533
0.00000000 Samaritan:149533
Distance to: Levantine:149532
0.00000000 Samaritan:149532
Distance to: German
0.00000000 German:German10
Distance to: German:
0.00000000 German:German1
Distance to: Basque_Spanish
0.00000000 Basque_Spanish:BAS25
Distance to: Basque_Spanish
0.00000000 Basque_Spanish:BAS22
Hamilcar
03-28-2021, 11:16 PM
F*** :confused:
Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.5607% / 0.02560681
57.6 Basque_Spanish
24.0 Italian
12.0 German
3.4 Berber
3.0 Yoruba
Without Yoruba, the fit worsens a bit but is more believable:
Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.8917% / 0.02891685
49.8 Basque_Spanish
19.2 Italian
18.6 German
12.4 Berber
replace the berber coordinates with these ones to see if there is a difference :
Moroccan,-0.017073,0.142174,0.004903,-0.060078,0.030775,-0.028726,-0.042067,0.009,0.062175,0.045012,0.001299,-0.008243,0.02334,-0.016102,0.016965,-0.014054,-0.006258,-0.009755,-0.050908,0.014882,-0.013102,-0.029924,0.017501,-0.011568,0.005269
Moroccan,-0.033009,0.139128,0.00528,-0.066538,0.042777,-0.039602,-0.029376,0.005538,0.068515,0.025695,0.010068,-0.01124,0.030029,-0.005367,0.021715,-0.016971,-0.002738,-0.016723,-0.040223,0.011005,-0.019965,-0.041671,0.028593,-0.012773,0.002155
Moroccan,-0.013659,0.129988,-0.001508,-0.062016,0.01908,-0.035419,-0.017391,0.006923,0.070356,0.044466,-0.006171,-0.001199,0.018731,-0.01968,0.002036,-0.017237,-0.004563,-0.025211,-0.048394,0.005628,-0.009982,-0.035117,0.027484,-0.008917,0.005389
Moroccan,-0.028456,0.137096,-0.004525,-0.064923,0.028928,-0.032351,-0.024441,0.014538,0.070561,0.026789,0.020948,0.002 398,0.010704,-0.020643,0.019001,-0.030893,-0.009909,-0.029138,-0.047011,0.004377,-0.011729,-0.044268,0.027484,-0.001687,0.001317
Moroccan,-0.021626,0.141159,-0.00528,-0.054587,0.030159,-0.028726,-0.023266,0.003461,0.056449,0.041368,0.00747,-0.007643,0.014717,-0.020506,0.014115,-0.003845,-0.001695,-0.019003,-0.034441,0.01038,-0.00861,-0.033386,0.019966,0.006266,0.007544
Last take, using all the modern G25 population samples from France, Germany, Belgium, Italy, Yoruba, Berber and Spain including the Spanish and French Basque HGDP, plus the new samples put online by Michalis Morioupoulos:
Target: Philou_scaled
Distance: 2.3728% / 0.02372819
35.4 French_Landes_Chalosse
22.8 Basque_Spanish_Alava
15.2 Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Southwest
14.4 Spanish_Biscay_West
9.2 French_Hautes-Pyrenees_Bigorre
1.8 German
1.2 French_Pyrenees-Atlantiques_Bearn
Distance to: Philou_scaled
0.02945383 French_Landes_Chalosse:1323
0.03166296 French_Hautes-Pyrenees_Bigorre:1177
0.03237430 Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Southwest:7653
0.03243040 Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:2373
0.03261222 Basque_Spanish_Alava:7799
0.03282166 French_Landes_Chalosse:1299
0.03382223 Spanish_Biscay_West:7149
0.03398838 Spanish_Aragon_North:2291
0.03401961 Basque_French
0.03425226 French_Occitanie
0.03450722 French_South
0.03500436 Basque_French_Lower_Navarre:7455
0.03537489 Basque_French_Lower_Navarre:7454
0.03600216 French_Hautes-Pyrenees_Bigorre:1118
0.03615130 Basque_Spanish_Alava:7001
0.03624639 French_Landes_Chalosse:1241
0.03631720 French_Hautes-Pyrenees_Bigorre:3326
0.03639023 Spanish_Aragon_North:2342
0.03674845 Spanish_Aragon_North:2276
0.03685430 French_Pyrenees-Atlantiques_Bearn:1761
0.03713578 Basque_French_Lower_Navarre:8256
0.03740344 French_Hautes-Pyrenees_Bigorre:1112
0.03744807 Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:1912
0.03751406 Spanish_Biscay_West:5619
0.03754146 Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Roncal:6278
Cristiano viejo
03-28-2021, 11:19 PM
and yes they were north africans :
Are now they North Africans? wow, some posts ago you used their graves to claim they were Iberians :rolleyes:
Nope. Iberians have minor African ancestry which was also found in formal tests and only other places in Europe where it's present are Med islands like Malta or Sicily. Accept it and move on.
I do. I have never denied we score some North African ancestry, not black. If you claim we have, then it is you who is in denial not accepting the results I posted about your SSA (in fact it is you Croatians who posted it).
gixajo
03-28-2021, 11:29 PM
And just let´s see something curious that we can get if we know how to choose the right references,an small improvised model made with Levantine, Berber and Yoruban individual samples used by Nass with just one I add (Norwegian average, if I select 2 individual samples I can change somewhat results), to "show" if Irish individual samples have Levantine, Yoruban or Berber ancestry.
Norwegian,0.1338234,0.1279567,0.0679357,0.0534334, 0.0386443,0.0210366,0.0041964,0.0062964,0.0057267, 0.0003906,-0.0037349,0.0036823,-0.007518,-0.011698,0.0210754,0.0093949,-0.0054203,0.0026061,0.0006823,0.0007503,0.005633,0 .0055643,0.0042784,0.0177304,0.0010947
Levantine:149532,0.083091,0.152329,-0.060716,-0.089471,-0.011387,-0.034582,-0.002585,-0.011769,0.018612,0.006196,0.002923,-0.011989,0.025272,0.012799,-0.006107,0.007425,-0.005867,0.00152,0.007416,0.000875,-0.001373,0.005564,-0.003204,-0.002169,0.002634
Levantine:149533,0.088782,0.150298,-0.058454,-0.095931,-0.007078,-0.036535,-0.00188,-0.007384,0.015135,0.006743,0.013153,-0.010191,0.023042,0.015827,-0.0057,-0.003845,-0.013299,-0.000887,-0.000503,-0.005628,-0.002745,0.006059,0.002835,-0.00241,0.009101
Berber,-0.021626,0.146236,-0.009051,-0.088502,0.030775,-0.041276,-0.032901,-0.001846,0.069538,0.030616,0.001137,-0.015286,0.024529,-0.016652,0.018322,-0.027844,-0.007302,-0.022551,-0.040475,0.012131,-0.014599,-0.035859,0.026498,-0.005543,0.009939
Berber,-0.033009,0.140143,-0.001508,-0.079135,0.024928,-0.035977,-0.035957,0.010615,0.070765,0.029887,0.00406,-0.005545,0.020367,-0.004542,0.016965,-0.019491,-0.002868,-0.027998,-0.050154,0.012756,-0.011605,-0.035365,0.027114,-0.003133,0.002634
Yoruba,-0.628304,0.061947,0.021496,0.01615,-0.001539,0.003347,-0.042067,0.049152,-0.050108,0.030616,-0.000974,0.003897,0.023191,-0.006468,0.00475,-0.004773,0.005737,-0.007601,0.00729,-0.002876,0.004991,0.000495,-0.006409,0.002771,-0.005029
Yoruba,-0.627165,0.060932,0.019987,0.01615,0.001539,0.0178 49,-0.043947,0.043152,-0.050722,0.029522,0.006008,0.001199,0.01888,-0.00055,0.011672,-0.012729,0.00665,0.002027,0.008296,-0.007629,0.004617,0.007172,-0.000863,-0.003253,0.004191
Irish:509,0.133173,0.128972,0.065242,0.055879,0.03 5699,0.029562,0.0047,0.003461,0.007567,-0.001276,-0.00065,0.005395,-0.00996,-0.012248,0.029858,0.005701,-0.014342,0.011149,0.000377,0.004002,0.002246,-0.003462,0.008258,0.016147,0.006706
Irish:510,0.130897,0.140143,0.064865,0.049742,0.03 416,0.022311,-0.002115,-0.007615,0.00409,0.004374,0.000162,0.008393,-0.018583,-0.017203,0.020222,0.005436,-0.004824,0.000887,0.002891,0.006753,0.001497,0.002 844,0.005176,0.01699,-0.006945
Irish:511,0.137726,0.14319,0.056191,0.050388,0.029 544,0.012829,0.00705,-0.000462,0.003477,-0.000729,-0.000812,0.008542,-0.011893,-0.008395,0.023208,-0.005038,-0.022948,0.003674,0.000754,0.004877,0.000998,0.000 371,-0.005176,0.011809,0.000838
Irish:512,0.130897,0.125926,0.067127,0.055233,0.03 97,0.019522,0.004465,0.005769,0.016771,0.001822,-0.005684,-3e-04,-0.011447,-0.011285,0.026194,0.009149,-0.004563,0.001647,-0.001257,0.008754,0.005116,0.002968,0.003697,0.013 978,0.007544
Irish:513,0.132035,0.122879,0.059962,0.059755,0.02 8928,0.02259,0.00423,0.004615,0.0045,-0.002005,-0.000974,0.002248,-0.00996,-0.01734,0.028908,0.008618,-0.002608,0.006461,0.004022,0,0.007986,0.003091,0.0 10846,0.017593,0.00479
Irish:514,0.141141,0.125926,0.059962,0.054587,0.04 1546,0.02008,0.004465,0.011769,0.000409,0.017495,-0.005521,0.007493,-0.013677,-0.027112,0.028094,0.017237,-0.007302,-0.000127,0.004274,0.011005,0.00549,0.00779,-0.000123,0.014219,-0.008382
Irish:515,0.12862,0.131003,0.065619,0.037791,0.044 316,0.018407,0.011045,0.010615,0.011044,0.006378,-0.012666,0.008542,-0.013528,-0.011423,0.034066,0.00411,-0.027511,0.001394,-0.011187,0.004002,0.004617,0.001731,-0.000246,0.023738,-0.012454
Irish:516,0.133173,0.131003,0.062979,0.052972,0.03 3237,0.026495,0.00987,0.003,0.008181,0.002187,-0.014128,0.001948,-0.015758,-0.009358,0.019951,0.009414,-0.007562,0.001267,0.000251,0.004502,0.007612,0.011 376,-0.007765,0.005784,-0.002515
Irish:517,0.126344,0.136081,0.058077,0.056202,0.03 2006,0.031794,0.009635,0.013153,-0.000409,0.003098,0.001624,0.003447,-0.014717,-0.018992,0.021444,0.005967,-0.009648,-0.000887,-0.00352,0.002376,0,-0.004081,0.004437,0.014219,-0.000239
Irish:518,0.141141,0.123895,0.057699,0.056202,0.03 8469,0.023985,0.00376,0.003,0.005113,-0.005103,0.002761,0.003747,-0.015758,-0.01968,0.028773,0.00716,-0.010822,0.004181,-0.001885,-0.000625,0.003993,0.008903,0.008627,0.01205,0.0007 18
Irish:520,0.138864,0.129988,0.061094,0.049742,0.03 97,0.022032,0.00799,0.001846,0.007772,-0.003098,-0.000162,-0.001049,-0.017691,-0.007569,0.032573,-0.002254,-0.02034,0.004434,-0.006411,-0.005878,0.007237,0.007172,0.010476,0.006507,0.001 916
Irish:529,0.132035,0.14319,0.049403,0.05168,0.0418 54,0.018686,0.00423,0.003461,0.009204,0.006196,-0.002273,0.009591,-0.009068,-0.006881,0.027958,0.002121,-0.017211,0.002914,0.000377,0.000125,0.002745,0.007 79,0.003944,0.009399,-0.001317
Irish:530,0.122929,0.133034,0.059585,0.048773,0.03 4468,0.01255,-0.003055,0.002538,0.001023,0.002551,-0.015914,0.012739,-0.005946,-0.014863,0.030266,0.004773,-0.029858,-0.005574,-0.003142,0.000125,-0.004118,-0.003833,0.001356,0.003615,0.003952
Irish:531,0.127482,0.128972,0.056945,0.054264,0.03 5699,0.029841,0.006345,-0.000462,0.002863,0.002005,-0.014615,0.010341,-0.018731,-0.019405,0.041123,0.008751,-0.006389,0.002914,0.006411,0.003252,0.008984,-0.000742,0.0053,0.016267,-0.005269
Irish:532,0.135449,0.131003,0.062979,0.045866,0.03 6622,0.023427,0.003995,-0.001154,0.00409,0,-0.013316,0.010641,-0.021853,-0.014863,0.020222,0.019888,0.001304,0.000253,-0.001257,0.003001,0.01123,0.001237,-0.003697,0.016388,0.005269
Irish:533,0.129758,0.138112,0.067505,0.042313,0.03 2929,0.026216,0.011751,0.00923,-0.002454,0.002187,0.002273,0.003747,-0.013379,-0.006055,0.031487,-0.006895,-0.014733,0.002027,0.001006,-0.004127,-0.002246,0.007296,0.001725,-0.004458,-0.006706
Irish:555,0.135449,0.125926,0.060716,0.055233,0.03 7238,0.014502,0.004935,0.008307,0.012476,0.002916,-0.010718,0.007194,-0.015015,-0.013625,0.027687,0.002784,-0.009909,-0.006461,0.002388,0.014257,0.012104,-0.006801,0.003204,0.010363,0.002275
Irish:556,0.127482,0.132019,0.067127,0.034884,0.03 7853,0.012271,0.00517,0.006692,-0.002863,0.008565,-0.016401,0.008243,-0.013825,-0.016377,0.026873,0.001458,-0.019949,-0.002534,-0.004902,0.005753,-0.001123,-0.006801,-0.00037,0.02181,-0.004431
Irish:557,0.140002,0.139128,0.060339,0.052649,0.03 4776,0.014223,-0.009165,0.001615,-0.009204,0.007472,-0.010555,0.003747,-0.011298,-0.020368,0.024701,0.022142,-0.000652,-0.003041,0.003897,-0.003377,0.010606,-0.004822,-0.006286,0.019039,0.003592
Irish:558,0.132035,0.13405,0.059585,0.053941,0.038 776,0.013108,-0.00282,0.013615,0.014112,0.010205,-0.012179,0.012589,-0.014569,-0.015689,0.029723,0.003713,-0.016037,-0.00266,0.006285,0.007629,0.012852,-0.001113,0.00419,0.008676,0.005748
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Irish:Irish63,0.138864,0.13405,0.062225,0.052972,0 .045547,0.012829,0.004935,0.013615,0.008181,0.0109 34,-0.008444,0.009142,-0.021556,-0.015551,0.027958,0.00411,-0.019297,0.001647,-0.001131,-0.003377,-0.000873,-0.002597,0.000739,0.015785,-0.000479
Irish:Irish64,0.130897,0.136081,0.061848,0.053295, 0.028928,0.02008,0.000235,0.009461,0.004295,0.0038 27,-0.000325,0.007493,-0.012785,-0.009909,0.022937,0.002519,-0.013299,0.00114,-0.006662,0.001626,-0.001123,-0.006306,-0.004683,0.021328,-0.003113
Irish:Irish65,0.137726,0.14319,0.057322,0.04845,0. 044316,0.021196,0.001645,0.006923,0.003068,0.00583 2,-0.001624,0.004946,-0.015461,-0.020506,0.015879,0.009414,-0.012126,0.003041,0.002011,0.006503,0.00025,-0.004081,-0.002465,0.018918,0.005508
Irish:Irish7,0.125205,0.136081,0.064488,0.049742,0 .03139,0.018686,-0.00376,-0.000231,0.004704,-0.005649,-0.017213,0.011839,-0.002081,-0.024359,0.02918,-0.007027,-0.021383,-0.005194,-0.004148,0.004252,0.010731,-0.005193,0.005423,0.013496,0.002754
Irish:Irish8,0.138864,0.144205,0.069767,0.05168,0. 041854,0.012271,0.009165,0.009,0.016771,-0.003645,-0.007145,-0.001798,-0.015015,-0.009358,0.026873,0.003315,-0.014733,-0.003927,-0.000503,-0.004002,0.002745,0.005317,0.018117,0.010483,-0.007784
Irish:Irish9,0.140002,0.127957,0.056568,0.049419,0 .043085,0.01757,0.013866,0.007846,-0.003272,-0.000729,-0.001461,0.014087,-0.030029,-0.007019,0.019408,0.000928,-0.008866,0.003801,0.002137,0.003126,0.001373,-0.00779,-0.007765,0.011206,-0.007424
And English?
English:England10,0.141141,0.138112,0.064111,0.050 065,0.031083,0.014502,0.006815,0.004154,0,0.005832 ,0.002111,0.010641,-0.017096,-0.017753,0.013572,0.006232,0.004303,0.008488,-0.006411,0.003001,0.009982,0.004575,0.002465,0.007 471,0.005868
English:England11,0.138864,0.13405,0.052043,0.0507 11,0.035699,0.022032,0.0094,-0.000923,-0.000818,0.002369,-0.004709,0.002248,-0.011447,-0.007569,0.016965,0.007823,-0.008605,0.00266,0.006034,0.007754,0.012353,0.0046 99,-0.002095,0.017593,-0.003712
English:England12,0.133173,0.140143,0.062225,0.035 853,0.035699,0.016733,0.003525,0.010384,0.007567,0 .004556,-0.003085,0.007194,-0.013379,-0.016515,0.028773,-0.000133,-0.003912,0.004054,-0.005028,0.001876,0.00574,-0.002968,-0.01023,0.01458,-0.003952
English:England13,0.134311,0.133034,0.062225,0.038 76,0.042469,0.012271,0,0.000231,0.007772,0.004374,-0.005684,0.005845,-0.008325,-0.007432,0.026873,-0.000928,-0.022035,0.004054,0.004902,0.013131,0.009858,0.005 935,-0.006409,0.012532,0.010059
English:England14,0.12862,0.138112,0.063356,0.0474 81,0.040315,0.010319,0.0094,0.008077,-0.00225,0.002005,0.000325,0.002997,-0.011744,0.002202,0.012758,-0.00053,-0.019166,0.000127,0.012193,0.005002,0.007362,0.005 935,-0.007641,0.014339,-0.000239
English:England15,0.135449,0.139128,0.06939,0.0465 12,0.038161,0.015339,0.004935,0.005538,0.003068,0. 010023,-0.008444,0.008243,-0.012636,-0.019267,0.015472,0.014187,-0.004172,0.008488,-0.000628,0.005002,0.000624,0.011376,-0.002835,0.020485,0.002754
English:England7,0.126344,0.135065,0.058454,0.0432 82,0.030467,0.026216,0.00658,0.006923,0.01084,0.00 4738,-0.004872,0.008393,-0.012339,-0.010872,0.025244,-0.002917,-0.021774,0.008108,0.006159,0,0.008984,0.00136,-0.009613,0.019039,0.000479
English:England8,0.132035,0.137096,0.059962,0.0503 88,0.035699,0.02008,0.00611,0.009,0.002863,0.01257 4,-0.01429,0.001798,-0.020664,-0.012524,0.022122,0.001193,-0.008084,0.005321,0.005154,0.016508,0.004991,-0.005688,-0.004067,0.016026,-0.000239
English:England9,0.135449,0.13405,0.056568,0.03811 4,0.0397,0.013945,0.00188,0.006692,0.007567,0.0089 3,-0.014128,0.007493,-0.010852,-0.017891,0.020358,0.01127,0.005867,-0.002027,0.00352,0.001,0.006489,-0.003215,-0.010846,0.023256,-0.002275
English:English1,0.134311,0.138112,0.062979,0.0494 19,0.042469,0.011156,0.00282,0.005307,0.007772,0.0 06196,0.000487,0.012289,-0.011001,-0.004954,0.019137,-0.012729,-0.018123,0.006334,0.003017,-0.001376,0.003369,0.007296,0.000986,0.010483,0.002 275
English:English2,0.126344,0.139128,0.061848,0.0520 03,0.044316,0.023427,0.010575,0.005538,0.006749,-0.001276,-0.000812,0.000749,-0.013082,-0.014726,0.017915,0.002652,-0.007432,0.003421,0.003142,0.004752,0.002995,0.002 102,0.002835,0.015665,-0.000599
English:English3,0.129758,0.144205,0.065242,0.0465 12,0.037238,0.020638,0.003525,0.006231,0.006136,0. 007289,-0.006008,0.005695,-0.008622,0.003028,0.015472,0.001061,-0.020601,0.006334,0.012444,0.003377,0.003244,0.001 36,0.000493,0.010965,0.002994
English:English4,0.133173,0.133034,0.058077,0.0352 07,0.036007,0.006414,0.00376,0.007384,0.007976,0.0 05649,-0.009256,0.005995,-0.012785,-0.007569,0.022122,0.007425,-0.002608,0.002407,0.002011,-0.004752,0.001622,0.004946,-0.005176,0.016629,-0.006826
English:English5,0.12862,0.139128,0.065996,0.03940 6,0.044008,0.0251,-0.002585,0.003231,0.00859,0.003827,-0.008607,0.006294,-0.016353,-0.015827,0.028366,0.008751,-0.005867,0.006208,0.005531,-0.002001,0.006738,0.005193,-0.000493,0.013496,0.000599
English:English6,0.127482,0.135065,0.062979,0.0490 96,0.048932,0.018407,0.004935,0.006923,0.003068,0. 009841,-0.003897,0.002847,-0.015461,-0.020919,0.025787,0.015513,-0.004563,0.003294,-0.004022,0.00075,0.00836,0.000742,-0.005793,0.00735,-0.001676
English:HG01789,0.12862,0.13405,0.066373,0.043928, 0.043085,0.014223,0.00517,0.003923,0.007363,0.0034 62,-0.001461,0.003897,-0.010406,-0.005918,0.02538,0.000796,-0.026077,0.003674,0.007919,-0.004752,0.003494,0.004946,-0.007272,0.004579,0.001197
English:HG01790,0.132035,0.136081,0.059585,0.03779 1,0.040623,0.013945,0.00611,0.008307,-0.000409,0.01057,-0.000325,0.002548,-0.006392,-0.007707,0.010993,0.004906,-0.005215,0.001647,0.001885,0.001251,0.000749,0.002 597,0.001725,0.007591,-0.003832
English:HG01791,0.12862,0.140143,0.056191,0.039406 ,0.03693,0.01506,0.0047,0.005077,0.008181,0.006014 ,-0.005846,0.004796,-0.014569,-0.01101,0.020494,0.007292,-0.002868,0.00228,0.008422,0.005878,0.008235,0.0075 43,0.0053,0.019762,-0.00455
English:HG02215,0.130897,0.136081,0.066373,0.04231 3,0.042469,0.018407,0.00705,0.007154,0.007976,0.00 0911,-0.002111,0.006744,-0.012042,-0.003441,0.023887,-0.004375,-0.026077,0.002914,0.003771,-0.000125,0.007612,0.005935,-0.003451,0.010242,0.002275
English_Cornwall:HG00160,0.132035,0.139128,0.06335 6,0.047481,0.044008,0.01757,0.004935,0.003461,0.00 8385,0.00492,-0.003573,0.002248,-0.010258,-0.011285,0.02348,0.004773,-0.00665,0.00266,0.007416,0.010005,0.001996,0.00061 8,0.001109,0.015424,-0.002036
English_Cornwall:HG00232,0.130897,0.145221,0.05807 7,0.049096,0.037238,0.012271,-0.000235,0.007154,0.001227,0.003462,-0.002436,0.006744,-0.013974,-0.009771,0.020358,-0.006232,-0.020731,0.00114,0.008296,0.005503,0.004991,0.0069 25,-0.000616,0.01458,0.005389
English_Cornwall:HG00235,0.12862,0.141159,0.054682 ,0.037145,0.047086,0.02259,0.006345,0.003461,0.005 113,0.007107,-0.005521,0.009591,-0.015015,-0.005505,0.019679,-0.001856,-0.017602,0.003167,0.000251,-0.002001,0.008984,0.004822,-0.000863,0.001325,-0.002634
English_Cornwall:HG00236,0.124067,0.142174,0.06373 3,0.037468,0.043393,0.011992,0.007285,0.005769,0.0 10431,0.008018,-0.007145,0.008992,-0.011447,-0.012937,0.015608,0.009281,-0.005737,0.003674,0.001383,0.009254,0.007986,0.001 484,-0.006655,0.013737,0.003832
English_Cornwall:HG00239,0.132035,0.144205,0.05656 8,0.040698,0.041546,0.014781,0.003525,0.010384,0.0 06136,0.002734,-0.005521,0.005545,-0.013825,-0.00523,0.018051,-0.007292,-0.020731,0.005954,0.006913,0.001626,0.000873,0.003 957,-0.001232,0.006989,-0.001557
English_Cornwall:HG00243,0.132035,0.138112,0.06260 2,0.045543,0.033545,0.019522,0.00282,0.004384,0.00 8795,0.004374,-0.003897,0.004946,-0.013379,-0.012799,0.024701,0.008486,-0.007171,0.002914,-0.000126,0.005378,0.006489,0.001978,-0.003574,0.019159,0.002275
English_Cornwall:HG00249,0.130897,0.135065,0.06561 9,0.04845,0.048317,0.013945,0.00094,0.007384,0.006 136,0.00893,-0.006658,0.002997,-0.011447,-0.012111,0.021444,0.018165,0.003781,-0.003927,-0.002011,0.009254,0.003494,0.009027,0.002958,0.020 123,0.004071
English_Cornwall:HG00252,0.130897,0.135065,0.06637 3,0.039083,0.035699,0.02008,0.00564,0.009923,0.008 59,0.010752,-0.005196,0.005095,-0.015015,-0.009358,0.02158,-0.003182,-0.023469,0.003674,0.008045,-0.006503,0.006863,0.002226,-0.00037,0.016749,-0.002874
English_Cornwall:HG00253,0.132035,0.142174,0.06411 1,0.044897,0.048317,0.013108,0.005405,0.003692,0.0 045,0.010387,-0.001786,0.005545,-0.016353,-0.009221,0.025787,-0.007292,-0.025686,-0.002154,0.005028,0.001751,0.007487,0.005441,0.000 123,0.020967,-0.000718
English_Cornwall:HG00255,0.127482,0.136081,0.06147 1,0.039083,0.039084,0.020359,0.0047,0.007154,0.005 522,0.004738,-0.00747,0.009891,-0.011298,-0.014313,0.015744,0.00769,-0.00326,0.005321,0.003268,0.006378,0.005241,0.0030 91,-0.002711,0.013134,0.005269
English_Cornwall:HG00259,0.129758,0.14319,0.058454 ,0.044251,0.042469,0.016733,0.00329,0.009461,0.003 681,0.004191,-0.00341,0.006744,-0.016353,-0.009771,0.023344,0.007823,-0.009127,0.000633,0.004777,0.001876,0.003868,0.003 833,0.003204,0.011568,-0.000718
English_Cornwall:HG00261,0.134311,0.138112,0.05694 5,0.041667,0.041238,0.012271,0.002115,0.009,0.0087 95,0.010205,-0.004709,0.007793,-0.013974,-0.006055,0.017779,0.001856,-0.021774,-0.000127,0.000503,-0.003502,0.001123,0.007419,0.000493,0.020485,-0.006227
English_Cornwall:HG00264,0.127482,0.137096,0.06561 9,0.046512,0.042777,0.018128,-0.002115,0.001846,0.006954,0.010752,-0.002923,0.008093,-0.016353,-0.014863,0.022258,0.009016,-0.004694,0.004561,0.005154,0.003126,0.003119,-0.000495,-0.001725,0.012532,0.0049
Oh, now I am more relaxed, they have more Levantine tham my mother Berber.:thumb001:
I am not saying that Irish or English have in average that real Levantine ancestry, is just to show that knowing how to choose the references, it is possible to obtain higher or lower percentages of components that we want to show, even with acceptable distances.
And that percentage can be increased, if we choose individual samples as sources obviously.
gixajo
03-28-2021, 11:30 PM
Double.
gixajo
03-28-2021, 11:48 PM
Last take, using all the modern G25 population samples from France, Germany, Belgium, Italy, Yoruba, Berber and Spain including the Spanish and French Basque HGDP, plus the new samples put online by Michalis Morioupoulos:
Target: Philou_scaled
Distance: 2.3728% / 0.02372819
35.4 French_Landes_Chalosse
22.8 Basque_Spanish_Alava
15.2 Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Southwest
14.4 Spanish_Biscay_West
9.2 French_Hautes-Pyrenees_Bigorre
1.8 German
1.2 French_Pyrenees-Atlantiques_Bearn
Where did you get these references from?
Post the sources of that model, please.
Hamilcar
03-28-2021, 11:53 PM
Sure let's take the Guanches as the representative epithome of N.Africa. Are you claiming the Canarias back?
https://media.giphy.com/media/xL7PDV9frcudO/giphy.gif
ok...
There s every evidence that North Africa, as in you know this huge chunk of Africa located in its Northwest, has never been invaded by steppe people, you really think anyone is gonna believe this nonsense? I mean yes a few Vandals there and there, but not anywhere near the violent population replacement West Eurasia went through.
Who talked about an invasion ? I implied that north africans got it via admixed iberians/italians not directly by steppe people.
What does an haplogroup founder effect has to do with the fact that North Africa as a whole has no IE markers? Only in some big towns like Oran on the coastal line you can find low amounts which were brought there in more recent times obviously. Everywhelse no R1, but one steppe invader went for a trip in North Africa, with for some reasons an E and every women fucked him in line? is that what you are saying?
First learn what it means and what it implies : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Founder_effect
diversity when it comes to lineage was erased by this founder effect replacing most of the local paternal lineages what can't you understand in this ?
Why do you think guanches had such variety of haplogroups including R1b ? :
https://i.imgur.com/CJuMPQA.png
Megaliths are a neolithic architecture, no such thing as IE at that time, only exchange with Iberian cultures. What a clusterfuck of confusions.
You need to read more about it then, this culture lasted way longer in southern europe that's why specialists reach such conclusions :
Thus the maghrebi dolmens, which are small in size but quite classic in appearance, are exactly the continuation of those of eastern Provence, Corsica and Sardinia, constituting a sort of megalithic Mediterranean axis. But while the dolmens of southern Europe and the islands are undoubtedly very old, from the Late Neolithic-Chalcolithic period, those from North Africa have yielded no documents that allow them to be recognized as such great antiquity. [...] We must therefore imagine that the "megalithic idea" penetrated into the eastern part of the Maghreb, at the time of the extreme end of its expansion and that this particularly conservative region maintained at length this architectural conception which evolved on the spot and gave birth to particular shapes.
https://journals.openedition.org/encyclopedieberbere/2200
These important Kabyle monuments are the most authentic representatives of European megalithism in Africa. By their imposing dimensions, even more than by their shape, they stand out from the small ones.
dolmens so common in eastern Algeria and Tunisia. These are not African forms. The tombs which most closely resemble these monuments are the Tombs of the Giants of Sardinia; they are also the closest in space with the "sesi" of Pantelleria (13). We can
consider that the covered walkways are older than the dolmens, although these are also burials introduced into Africa from the Mediterranean peninsulas
Sur trois types peu connus de Monuments funéraires nord-africains, Gabriel Camps, p. 104
And just let´s see something curious that we can get if we know how to choose the right references,an small improvised model made with Levantine, Berber and Yoruban individual samples used by Nass with just one I add (Norwegian average, if I select 2 individual samples I can change somewhat results), to "show" if Irish individual samples have Levantine, Yoruban or Berber ancestry.
Norwegian,0.1338234,0.1279567,0.0679357,0.0534334, 0.0386443,0.0210366,0.0041964,0.0062964,0.0057267, 0.0003906,-0.0037349,0.0036823,-0.007518,-0.011698,0.0210754,0.0093949,-0.0054203,0.0026061,0.0006823,0.0007503,0.005633,0 .0055643,0.0042784,0.0177304,0.0010947
Levantine:149532,0.083091,0.152329,-0.060716,-0.089471,-0.011387,-0.034582,-0.002585,-0.011769,0.018612,0.006196,0.002923,-0.011989,0.025272,0.012799,-0.006107,0.007425,-0.005867,0.00152,0.007416,0.000875,-0.001373,0.005564,-0.003204,-0.002169,0.002634
Levantine:149533,0.088782,0.150298,-0.058454,-0.095931,-0.007078,-0.036535,-0.00188,-0.007384,0.015135,0.006743,0.013153,-0.010191,0.023042,0.015827,-0.0057,-0.003845,-0.013299,-0.000887,-0.000503,-0.005628,-0.002745,0.006059,0.002835,-0.00241,0.009101
Berber,-0.021626,0.146236,-0.009051,-0.088502,0.030775,-0.041276,-0.032901,-0.001846,0.069538,0.030616,0.001137,-0.015286,0.024529,-0.016652,0.018322,-0.027844,-0.007302,-0.022551,-0.040475,0.012131,-0.014599,-0.035859,0.026498,-0.005543,0.009939
Berber,-0.033009,0.140143,-0.001508,-0.079135,0.024928,-0.035977,-0.035957,0.010615,0.070765,0.029887,0.00406,-0.005545,0.020367,-0.004542,0.016965,-0.019491,-0.002868,-0.027998,-0.050154,0.012756,-0.011605,-0.035365,0.027114,-0.003133,0.002634
Yoruba,-0.628304,0.061947,0.021496,0.01615,-0.001539,0.003347,-0.042067,0.049152,-0.050108,0.030616,-0.000974,0.003897,0.023191,-0.006468,0.00475,-0.004773,0.005737,-0.007601,0.00729,-0.002876,0.004991,0.000495,-0.006409,0.002771,-0.005029
Yoruba,-0.627165,0.060932,0.019987,0.01615,0.001539,0.0178 49,-0.043947,0.043152,-0.050722,0.029522,0.006008,0.001199,0.01888,-0.00055,0.011672,-0.012729,0.00665,0.002027,0.008296,-0.007629,0.004617,0.007172,-0.000863,-0.003253,0.004191
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Oh, now I am more relaxed, they have more Levantine tham my mother Berber.:thumb001:
I am not saying that Irish or English have in average that real Levantine ancestry, is just to show that knowing how to choose the references, it is possible to obtain higher or lower percentages of components that we want to show, even with acceptable distances.
And that percentage can be increased, if we choose individual samples as sources obviously.
That's why i allways wonder how accurate and reliable are all those models.
gixajo
03-28-2021, 11:56 PM
And just let´s see something curious that we can get if we know how to choose the right references,an small improvised model made with Levantine, Berber and Yoruban individual samples used by Nass with just one I add (Norwegian average, if I select 2 individual samples I can change somewhat results), to "show" if Irish individual samples have Levantine, Yoruban or Berber ancestry.
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English:HG02215,0.130897,0.136081,0.066373,0.04231 3,0.042469,0.018407,0.00705,0.007154,0.007976,0.00 0911,-0.002111,0.006744,-0.012042,-0.003441,0.023887,-0.004375,-0.026077,0.002914,0.003771,-0.000125,0.007612,0.005935,-0.003451,0.010242,0.002275
English_Cornwall:HG00160,0.132035,0.139128,0.06335 6,0.047481,0.044008,0.01757,0.004935,0.003461,0.00 8385,0.00492,-0.003573,0.002248,-0.010258,-0.011285,0.02348,0.004773,-0.00665,0.00266,0.007416,0.010005,0.001996,0.00061 8,0.001109,0.015424,-0.002036
English_Cornwall:HG00232,0.130897,0.145221,0.05807 7,0.049096,0.037238,0.012271,-0.000235,0.007154,0.001227,0.003462,-0.002436,0.006744,-0.013974,-0.009771,0.020358,-0.006232,-0.020731,0.00114,0.008296,0.005503,0.004991,0.0069 25,-0.000616,0.01458,0.005389
English_Cornwall:HG00235,0.12862,0.141159,0.054682 ,0.037145,0.047086,0.02259,0.006345,0.003461,0.005 113,0.007107,-0.005521,0.009591,-0.015015,-0.005505,0.019679,-0.001856,-0.017602,0.003167,0.000251,-0.002001,0.008984,0.004822,-0.000863,0.001325,-0.002634
English_Cornwall:HG00236,0.124067,0.142174,0.06373 3,0.037468,0.043393,0.011992,0.007285,0.005769,0.0 10431,0.008018,-0.007145,0.008992,-0.011447,-0.012937,0.015608,0.009281,-0.005737,0.003674,0.001383,0.009254,0.007986,0.001 484,-0.006655,0.013737,0.003832
English_Cornwall:HG00239,0.132035,0.144205,0.05656 8,0.040698,0.041546,0.014781,0.003525,0.010384,0.0 06136,0.002734,-0.005521,0.005545,-0.013825,-0.00523,0.018051,-0.007292,-0.020731,0.005954,0.006913,0.001626,0.000873,0.003 957,-0.001232,0.006989,-0.001557
English_Cornwall:HG00243,0.132035,0.138112,0.06260 2,0.045543,0.033545,0.019522,0.00282,0.004384,0.00 8795,0.004374,-0.003897,0.004946,-0.013379,-0.012799,0.024701,0.008486,-0.007171,0.002914,-0.000126,0.005378,0.006489,0.001978,-0.003574,0.019159,0.002275
English_Cornwall:HG00249,0.130897,0.135065,0.06561 9,0.04845,0.048317,0.013945,0.00094,0.007384,0.006 136,0.00893,-0.006658,0.002997,-0.011447,-0.012111,0.021444,0.018165,0.003781,-0.003927,-0.002011,0.009254,0.003494,0.009027,0.002958,0.020 123,0.004071
English_Cornwall:HG00252,0.130897,0.135065,0.06637 3,0.039083,0.035699,0.02008,0.00564,0.009923,0.008 59,0.010752,-0.005196,0.005095,-0.015015,-0.009358,0.02158,-0.003182,-0.023469,0.003674,0.008045,-0.006503,0.006863,0.002226,-0.00037,0.016749,-0.002874
English_Cornwall:HG00253,0.132035,0.142174,0.06411 1,0.044897,0.048317,0.013108,0.005405,0.003692,0.0 045,0.010387,-0.001786,0.005545,-0.016353,-0.009221,0.025787,-0.007292,-0.025686,-0.002154,0.005028,0.001751,0.007487,0.005441,0.000 123,0.020967,-0.000718
English_Cornwall:HG00255,0.127482,0.136081,0.06147 1,0.039083,0.039084,0.020359,0.0047,0.007154,0.005 522,0.004738,-0.00747,0.009891,-0.011298,-0.014313,0.015744,0.00769,-0.00326,0.005321,0.003268,0.006378,0.005241,0.0030 91,-0.002711,0.013134,0.005269
English_Cornwall:HG00259,0.129758,0.14319,0.058454 ,0.044251,0.042469,0.016733,0.00329,0.009461,0.003 681,0.004191,-0.00341,0.006744,-0.016353,-0.009771,0.023344,0.007823,-0.009127,0.000633,0.004777,0.001876,0.003868,0.003 833,0.003204,0.011568,-0.000718
English_Cornwall:HG00261,0.134311,0.138112,0.05694 5,0.041667,0.041238,0.012271,0.002115,0.009,0.0087 95,0.010205,-0.004709,0.007793,-0.013974,-0.006055,0.017779,0.001856,-0.021774,-0.000127,0.000503,-0.003502,0.001123,0.007419,0.000493,0.020485,-0.006227
English_Cornwall:HG00264,0.127482,0.137096,0.06561 9,0.046512,0.042777,0.018128,-0.002115,0.001846,0.006954,0.010752,-0.002923,0.008093,-0.016353,-0.014863,0.022258,0.009016,-0.004694,0.004561,0.005154,0.003126,0.003119,-0.000495,-0.001725,0.012532,0.0049
Oh, now I am more relaxed, they have more Levantine tham my mother Berber.:thumb001:
I am not saying that Irish or English have in average that real Levantine ancestry, is just to show that knowing how to choose the references, it is possible to obtain higher or lower percentages of components that we want to show, even with acceptable distances.
And that percentage can be increased, if we choose individual samples as sources obviously.
Average of all Irish individual samples(Berber-Levantine-Norwegian-Yoruba)
Average 0.03106311
1.0 2.4 96.5 0.1
Average for English and English Cornwall individual samples (Berber-Levantine-Norwegian-Yoruba)
Average 0.02749639
1.2 4.7 94.1 0.1
Hamilcar
03-28-2021, 11:58 PM
Doesn't quite work for me, i get similar results to Defcon, meaning i have to tweak it to get near.
I'm not sure if multiplying Taforalt by 3 is that clear cut.
Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 1.7686% / 0.01768559
44.4 Basque_Spanish
25.8 Italian
23.6 German
3.0 Berber
2.8 Yoruba
0.4 Levantine
Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 2.2015% / 0.02201482
35.8 Basque_Spanish
30.0 German
23.2 Italian
11.0 Berber
it seems to work for other portuguese member maybe the source should be different in your case. Send me your coordinates or replace the berber coordinates with these ones :
Moroccan,-0.017073,0.142174,0.004903,-0.060078,0.030775,-0.028726,-0.042067,0.009,0.062175,0.045012,0.001299,-0.008243,0.02334,-0.016102,0.016965,-0.014054,-0.006258,-0.009755,-0.050908,0.014882,-0.013102,-0.029924,0.017501,-0.011568,0.005269
Moroccan,-0.033009,0.139128,0.00528,-0.066538,0.042777,-0.039602,-0.029376,0.005538,0.068515,0.025695,0.010068,-0.01124,0.030029,-0.005367,0.021715,-0.016971,-0.002738,-0.016723,-0.040223,0.011005,-0.019965,-0.041671,0.028593,-0.012773,0.002155
Moroccan,-0.013659,0.129988,-0.001508,-0.062016,0.01908,-0.035419,-0.017391,0.006923,0.070356,0.044466,-0.006171,-0.001199,0.018731,-0.01968,0.002036,-0.017237,-0.004563,-0.025211,-0.048394,0.005628,-0.009982,-0.035117,0.027484,-0.008917,0.005389
Moroccan,-0.028456,0.137096,-0.004525,-0.064923,0.028928,-0.032351,-0.024441,0.014538,0.070561,0.026789,0.020948,0.002 398,0.010704,-0.020643,0.019001,-0.030893,-0.009909,-0.029138,-0.047011,0.004377,-0.011729,-0.044268,0.027484,-0.001687,0.001317
Moroccan,-0.021626,0.141159,-0.00528,-0.054587,0.030159,-0.028726,-0.023266,0.003461,0.056449,0.041368,0.00747,-0.007643,0.014717,-0.020506,0.014115,-0.003845,-0.001695,-0.019003,-0.034441,0.01038,-0.00861,-0.033386,0.019966,0.006266,0.007544
Where did you get these references from?
Post the sources of that model, please.
All of them are scaled samples.
,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
Basque_French_Labourd:1216,0.12862,0.146236,0.0561 91,0.010982,0.059088,-0.000279,-0.00282,0.004154,0.036201,0.036994,-0.009256,0.013188,-0.017393,-0.021744,0.016422,0.006895,-0.006258,-0.007855,0.000628,-0.007379,0.009358,0.005812,-0.002342,-0.005663,-0.00012
Basque_French_Labourd:1231,0.136588,0.150298,0.057 699,0.023579,0.060934,0.003904,-0.003525,0.01223,0.03436,0.040821,-0.008119,0.004946,-0.019475,-0.017203,0.018322,0.001989,0.004303,-0.00076,0.003394,0.002126,0.013975,-0.002968,-0.008874,-0.001807,0.00934
Basque_French_Labourd:1275,0.130897,0.151314,0.059 585,0.012597,0.062781,0.006136,-0.011751,-0.005077,0.031292,0.040639,-0.006496,0.016785,-0.015312,-0.016928,0.015472,0.00716,-0.004955,0.002534,0.000251,-0.013256,0.006364,-0.004451,-0.008011,-0.001928,0
Basque_French_Labourd:1285,0.129758,0.149283,0.069 013,0.011628,0.052317,0.002789,-0.00141,0.002308,0.03436,0.040639,-0.005196,0.009741,-0.026908,-0.018441,0.016829,0.002121,-0.012908,0.00152,0.003142,-0.006503,0.001373,0.001855,-0.010476,-0.008435,0.009819
Basque_French_Labourd:1298,0.134311,0.149283,0.050 534,0.005491,0.053856,-0.001952,0.00423,0.001154,0.033746,0.047564,-0.006496,0.005545,-0.023934,-0.012937,0.017779,-0.011138,-0.017471,0.003674,-0.000503,-0.017008,0.01123,0.006677,-0.00949,-0.003856,-0.001916
Basque_French_Labourd:2907,0.136588,0.150298,0.059 208,0.009044,0.056318,-0.002231,-0.011986,0.008538,0.027815,0.041368,-0.004547,0.021581,-0.021853,-0.013762,0.013708,-0.000663,-0.005346,0.00076,-0.008547,-0.007379,0.007112,0.002349,-0.015159,-0.00482,0.002874
Basque_French_Labourd:2911,0.135449,0.150298,0.058 454,0.00969,0.066166,-0.004183,-0.001175,0.001846,0.034155,0.046288,-0.004384,0.009741,-0.026016,-0.009634,0.015744,0.001591,-0.011735,0.004434,-0.001257,-0.013006,0.005865,-0.014838,-0.011709,-0.006507,0.013771
Basque_French_Labourd:2961,0.127482,0.157407,0.053 551,0.015504,0.061242,0.00251,0.002115,0.011307,0. 03661,0.038087,-0.005359,0.009142,-0.026908,-0.013625,0.02443,0.003978,-0.01695,0.00228,-0.002011,-0.01013,0.009109,-0.000866,-0.010106,-0.01446,-0.001197
Basque_French_Labourd:2969,0.132035,0.157407,0.061 471,0.011628,0.05878,0.007251,0.000235,0.002538,0. 040087,0.047746,-0.011854,0.009442,-0.022002,-0.025047,0.022122,0.002519,-0.01017,0.00038,-0.002765,-0.006753,0.00861,-0.000371,-0.00493,-0.011568,0.006826
Basque_French_Labourd:5281,0.129758,0.148267,0.063 356,0.010659,0.051702,-0.001673,-0.002585,0.002538,0.024338,0.040092,-0.001461,0.009591,-0.019326,-0.017891,0.01045,0.001989,-0.011604,0.0019,0.000754,-0.000125,0.008859,-0.007172,-0.013311,-0.008194,-0.008861
Basque_French_Labourd:5288,0.127482,0.157407,0.060 716,0.010982,0.051394,-0.003347,-0.003525,0.001154,0.037019,0.04155,0.005684,0.0110 9,-0.029286,-0.020781,0.010993,-0.002387,0.002738,-0.000633,0.002891,-0.004502,0.010606,0.002597,-0.003204,-0.021449,0.007305
Basque_French_Lower_Navarre:5572,0.135449,0.146236 ,0.061471,0.017765,0.051086,0.003347,0.00658,0.002 769,0.030065,0.049204,-0.002273,0.013188,-0.026759,-0.028901,0.029044,-0.001989,-0.008084,-0.000507,0.003771,-0.002626,0.001622,-0.004699,0.001602,-0.002892,0.001676
Basque_French_Lower_Navarre:5577,0.135449,0.145221 ,0.054305,0.004199,0.051086,0.001116,-0.002115,-0.008077,0.03436,0.041003,-0.008769,0.008692,-0.020961,-0.01968,0.013979,0.010872,0.001043,0.005448,0.0033 94,-0.002251,0.00262,0.004081,-0.007641,0.00482,-0.000479
Basque_French_Lower_Navarre:6060,0.127482,0.150298 ,0.057322,0.008075,0.051086,-0.003347,0.00658,0.005077,0.024543,0.041003,-0.008769,0.01094,-0.019623,-0.016515,0.019137,-0.001724,-0.00691,0.0019,0.000754,0.008254,0.009858,-0.001855,-0.020706,-0.011086,0.000239
Basque_French_Lower_Navarre:6914,0.129758,0.151314 ,0.05506,0.011951,0.05878,0.007809,-0.00282,-0.003923,0.028429,0.046652,-0.005846,0.010041,-0.01888,-0.012661,0.01045,0.008751,0.007041,-0.000507,-0.002388,0.001626,0.002371,0.004081,-0.00419,-0.006627,0.005508
Basque_French_Lower_Navarre:6920,0.129758,0.152329 ,0.061094,0.015827,0.060934,0.000837,-0.00282,-0.000462,0.035587,0.047381,-0.001786,0.010491,-0.023786,-0.013487,0.020358,-0.002652,-0.019166,0.007855,-0.003897,-0.003627,0.014474,0.007172,-0.011462,-0.014701,0.011975
Basque_French_Lower_Navarre:6930,0.130897,0.142174 ,0.050534,0.005491,0.055395,-0.001394,0.00141,-0.000231,0.035792,0.048293,-0.006983,0.014837,-0.02438,-0.017478,0.012622,0.005304,0.00326,0.002787,-0.004525,-0.001126,0.003743,0.009274,-0.015652,-0.011568,0.005269
Basque_French_Lower_Navarre:7438,0.129758,0.145221 ,0.061094,0.00969,0.057241,0.004183,-0.001645,0,0.022702,0.046652,-0.005684,0.020682,-0.030921,-0.020368,0.011265,-0.005436,-0.005346,-0.001394,-0.002514,-0.001501,0.002121,0.000495,-0.006532,-0.011809,0.010418
Basque_French_Lower_Navarre:7450,0.119514,0.147252 ,0.052043,0.014535,0.058472,0.006693,-0.00752,-0.001615,0.034974,0.036629,-0.002273,0.015286,-0.020218,-0.017753,0.017508,-0.001458,-0.00691,0.001394,-0.000377,-0.008379,0.008111,0.004328,-0.011462,-0.015183,-0.002155
Basque_French_Lower_Navarre:7454,0.122929,0.152329 ,0.054682,0.011305,0.052317,-0.002231,-0.006345,0.002538,0.025361,0.044466,-0.001624,0.008093,-0.022745,-0.007844,0.012486,-0.004906,-0.017211,0.005321,-0.008296,-0.003377,0.004243,0.002597,-0.002218,-0.018557,-0.001916
Basque_French_Lower_Navarre:7455,0.138864,0.144205 ,0.050911,0.016473,0.051394,-0.002789,-0.007285,0.009,0.025156,0.039545,-0.002598,0.008692,-0.017691,-0.010459,0.018865,-0.001856,-0.012256,0.00266,-0.010936,-0.003752,0.010606,-0.000124,0.000986,-0.015183,-0.000838
Basque_French_Lower_Navarre:8256,0.126344,0.15436, 0.05242,0.006137,0.057549,0.001673,0.00329,0.00692 3,0.037428,0.045923,-0.008769,0.007943,-0.02438,-0.011147,0.023751,-0.005967,-0.019818,0.004054,-0.00176,-0.003752,0.011605,0.001607,-0.00912,-0.002771,0.001796
Basque_French_Soule:5447,0.129758,0.152329,0.05883 1,0.00646,0.056626,-0.002231,-0.001645,-0.001154,0.029042,0.046106,-0.008931,0.011989,-0.024529,-0.014863,0.010586,0.005569,-0.004694,0.002407,-0.004525,-0.004002,0.012852,-0.001237,-0.003328,-0.002048,0.001437
Basque_French_Soule:5808,0.136588,0.15436,0.067127 ,-0.001615,0.064012,0.000558,0.003995,0.005538,0.032 928,0.04483,-0.004709,0.003147,-0.021556,-0.018854,0.017779,-0.007955,-0.011213,0.000253,0,-0.006878,0.017594,-0.005193,-0.016269,-0.014942,-0.001197
Basque_French_Soule:5911,0.134311,0.153345,0.05468 2,0.002907,0.055703,0.008925,-0.005405,-0.002077,0.037019,0.036629,-0.009743,0.010641,-0.023042,-0.017891,0.013979,-0.00305,-0.01343,-0.000253,0.001508,-0.006503,0.003369,0.001607,-0.012202,-0.007953,0.000239
Basque_French_Soule:5913,0.129758,0.169593,0.05656 8,0.002907,0.06432,-0.004183,-0.003055,0.000231,0.032928,0.044648,-0.00406,0.017385,-0.025718,-0.014038,0.009229,0.00053,-0.019297,0.003167,0.006411,-0.003627,0.015597,0.008532,-0.002465,-0.015303,0.005029
Basque_French_Soule:5915,0.127482,0.155376,0.05317 4,0.000969,0.058472,0.002789,-0.00329,0.002769,0.029042,0.046106,-0.004384,0.01139,-0.029137,-0.015964,0.010043,-0.003182,-0.01708,0,-0.005028,0.00075,0.011355,0.005441,-0.009737,-0.005904,0.008023
Basque_French_Soule:5952,0.12862,0.15436,0.050534, 0.008075,0.058165,-0.000837,-0.00376,0.004384,0.027815,0.040456,-0.001624,0.014687,-0.022002,-0.021332,0.017779,-0.013789,-0.023078,0.002914,0.00088,-0.000875,0.012603,0.001607,-0.003697,-0.015424,0.001437
Basque_French_Soule:7368,0.12862,0.152329,0.05506, 0.00969,0.06432,-0.007251,0.00047,0.001154,0.030883,0.051208,-0.004872,0.006145,-0.021258,-0.014726,0.015879,0.001856,-0.001434,-0.00266,0.000377,0.000625,0.004866,0.005441,-0.010969,-0.007109,-0.001197
Basque_French_Soule:7394,0.135449,0.148267,0.06147 1,0.014212,0.053548,0.006136,-0.00329,0.004154,0.029042,0.031345,-0.006496,0.010041,-0.024529,-0.020781,0.010586,0.001326,0.000652,0.00152,-0.002263,-0.007379,0.006489,0.00507,-0.011462,-0.004458,0.000359
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Basque_Spanish_Biscay:4454,0.135449,0.149283,0.046 009,0.009044,0.065858,-0.000837,-0.00282,0.003461,0.039678,0.047564,-0.007307,0.009891,-0.018434,-0.012524,0.015744,-0.005171,-0.013299,-0.002534,-0.008296,-0.002126,0.007237,0.004081,-0.002342,-0.01446,0.002874
Basque_Spanish_Biscay:4455,0.125205,0.145221,0.051 288,0.016796,0.058472,0.005299,-0.00282,0.006231,0.022702,0.039363,-0.00341,0.016935,-0.026016,-0.023671,0.018051,0.006497,0.001043,0.003294,0.007 416,-0.009254,0.00861,0.008285,-0.012818,-0.010724,-0.006826
Basque_Spanish_Biscay:4487,0.130897,0.14319,0.0558 14,0.001615,0.037853,0.005578,-0.002585,0,0.020452,0.038999,-0.005034,0.013038,-0.025272,-0.015138,0.005157,-0.004375,-0.004955,0.009628,0.002011,0.007003,0.00549,-0.002226,-0.006039,-0.00976,0.010059
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Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Southwest:3861,0.125205,0. 142174,0.064111,0.016473,0.060319,0.002231,0.00352 5,0.000231,0.024952,0.045559,-0.008282,0.013038,-0.020812,-0.024497,0.014929,0.01074,0.004172,0.005448,-0.002514,0.003627,0.015348,0.005441,-0.009244,-0.016629,0.00012
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Southwest:5376,0.132035,0. 151314,0.056191,0.011951,0.060627,0.007251,0.00070 5,0.002538,0.024338,0.040092,-0.000487,0.01139,-0.025421,-0.016377,0.020629,0.005569,0.002868,-0.000507,-0.00352,-0.004127,0.006738,-0.005317,-0.015159,-0.009278,0.003832
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Southwest:6531,0.132035,0. 151314,0.059585,0.017765,0.049548,0.004741,0.00446 5,-0.001846,0.02577,0.042279,-0.002273,0.011989,-0.022002,-0.016377,0.011808,0.007027,0.004303,0.006841,-0.003268,0.001751,0.01148,0.01014,-0.008751,-0.00723,0.002634
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Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Southwest:7653,0.135449,0. 150298,0.054682,0.007106,0.061858,-0.003904,0.000235,0,0.02577,0.040456,-0.002273,0.007044,-0.025124,-0.011285,0.013029,-0.00769,-0.015125,0.006081,0.000503,-0.001751,-0.003369,0.001978,-0.002342,-0.006386,-0.005269
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Southwest:7654,0.130897,0. 157407,0.050157,0.003876,0.056934,0.005299,-0.00188,-0.001846,0.026997,0.045195,-0.008282,0.009292,-0.024826,-0.012661,0.019408,0.002121,-0.007432,0.007095,0.00176,-0.007754,0.010357,-0.005441,-0.000863,-0.015906,0.003113
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Southwest:7664,0.134311,0. 148267,0.058831,0.014858,0.047701,0,-0.00705,-0.001154,0.02802,0.038087,-0.006008,0.006744,-0.00892,-0.017891,0.012622,0.002387,-0.003781,0.0019,-0.00817,-0.006503,0.014474,0.007048,-0.009367,-0.015183,-0.001916
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Southwest:7683,0.133173,0. 146236,0.059585,0.005168,0.059088,-0.001116,-0.00658,0.001846,0.035587,0.038999,-0.003085,0.003897,-0.015609,-0.013487,0.005293,0.012331,-0.002868,-0.000127,-0.00264,0.003877,0.011355,0.005812,-0.016392,0.000361,0.006945
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Central:7670,0.127482,0.14 8267,0.05506,0.005491,0.048624,-0.003626,-0.00517,0.005077,0.03436,0.038634,-0.008282,0.013638,-0.019177,-0.015138,0.012079,-0.003845,-0.010822,0.005068,-0.003897,-0.015632,0.007112,0.007296,-0.010106,-0.005181,0.008263
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Central:7672,0.135449,0.15 1314,0.055814,0.007429,0.057549,-0.004183,-0.00282,-0.004846,0.029656,0.03827,-0.003735,0.008842,-0.028989,-0.018441,0.021037,0.001458,-0.014081,-0.000507,0.00264,0.005127,0.00262,-0.002226,-0.00912,-0.011206,-0.009939
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Central:7677,0.127482,0.15 436,0.056945,0.013243,0.04924,0.003904,-0.00094,-0.003231,0.033542,0.045923,-0.010718,0.020682,-0.01665,-0.007294,0.016965,0,-0.001304,-0.005068,-0.000251,5e-04,0.006239,0.000371,-0.005916,-0.001205,0.001317
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Central:7678,0.132035,0.14 9283,0.057322,0.003553,0.060319,0.004462,-0.007285,0.000692,0.028633,0.038452,-0.013153,0.011989,-0.021407,-0.01679,0.027958,0.012994,0.004433,-0.002534,0.001006,-0.001126,0.007362,0.001484,-0.009983,-0.017954,0.000479
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Central:7692,0.135449,0.14 7252,0.048649,0.007752,0.057241,0.001394,-0.00564,-0.006692,0.028633,0.042279,0.002923,0.01094,-0.017691,-0.019955,0.016422,0.014717,0.009388,0.002914,0.002 64,-0.004877,0.007736,-0.004822,-0.016392,-0.011447,0.000359
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Central:7695,0.132035,0.15 436,0.058454,0.014858,0.062781,0.00502,-0.00094,0.005307,0.03211,0.044101,-0.004709,0.011839,-0.02215,-0.024222,0.009093,0.008486,-0.002608,0.003167,0.001006,-0.011506,0.003743,-0.005812,-0.011709,-0.012532,-0.000359
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Central:7699,0.129758,0.13 8112,0.056191,0.008721,0.061242,0.001116,-0.0094,0.005769,0.034565,0.044101,-0.002923,0.012739,-0.021407,-0.015964,0.016151,0.009414,0.003129,-0.003927,-0.002263,-0.001876,0.009234,-0.013231,-0.007518,-0.014098,0.003712
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Central:7756,0.135449,0.14 319,0.041483,0.016473,0.047701,-0.003068,-0.000235,0.000692,0.021066,0.042097,-0.008282,0.008393,-0.022299,-0.021744,0.013708,0.013392,-0.002738,0,-0.001383,-0.004752,0.002496,-0.001731,-0.013434,-0.008194,-0.001078
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Central:7760,0.127482,0.14 7252,0.048649,0.018411,0.059703,0.005857,-0.0047,0.000231,0.020043,0.038634,-0.009906,0.011989,-0.009514,-0.018441,0.017372,0.003978,-0.00678,0.000127,0.002263,-0.006128,0.001622,-0.002226,-0.012818,-0.014701,0.001078
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Central:7779,0.134311,0.15 7407,0.046763,0.013243,0.050779,0.000837,-0.000705,0.002769,0.034565,0.044283,-0.003573,0.017534,-0.030624,-0.02257,0.015608,0.011403,0.001173,0.006841,-0.005405,-0.012756,0.012478,0.002349,-0.008751,-0.005784,0.011735
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Central:7819,0.124067,0.14 2174,0.067505,0.013889,0.05201,0.002231,-0.00611,0.000231,0.03027,0.040456,0.002273,0.01004 1,-0.017096,-0.014588,0.009093,-0.00769,-0.013038,0.009375,-0.003897,-0.003627,0.001123,0.004699,-0.008751,-0.011688,-0.00012
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:1256,0.12862,0.139128,0.049403,0.004522,0.052 317,-0.005857,-0.011751,-0.006923,0.033951,0.039363,-0.005521,0.01079,-0.02557,-0.016377,0.016694,-0.000398,-0.000913,0.005194,-0.003645,-0.007128,0.012228,-0.001855,-0.007148,-0.010724,0.001796
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:1262,0.120652,0.153345,0.067505,0.008721,0.05 878,0.000837,0.002115,-0.007384,0.022702,0.04483,-0.006171,0.014387,-0.029286,-0.015964,0.020629,0.000796,-0.002999,-0.00076,-0.000503,0.008754,0.010606,0.002968,-0.008627,-0.01217,0.002874
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:1266,0.121791,0.146236,0.051666,0.00323,0.040 007,0.001673,-0.00705,-0.000923,0.027406,0.034625,0.000162,-0.002098,-0.019475,-0.025323,0.011129,0.004375,0.00352,-0.002914,-0.002263,0.001126,0.00025,0.003833,-0.006162,-0.010242,-0.006107
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:1267,0.124067,0.148267,0.061094,0.009044,0.05 6318,0.000837,-0.005875,-0.002538,0.033746,0.044466,0.000974,0.011839,-0.017691,-0.023809,0.014386,0.001591,-0.007041,0.005448,-0.004777,-0.002626,-0.001497,-0.002597,-0.000986,0.003615,0.003952
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:1912,0.133173,0.145221,0.054682,0.005168,0.05 878,0.003347,0.001645,0,0.028838,0.039545,-0.012179,0.013488,-0.020515,-0.010459,0.010179,-0.003713,-0.006258,0.001267,-0.006913,0.002376,0.006988,0.010263,-0.005916,-0.003012,0.001916
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:1918,0.126344,0.149283,0.054682,0.00323,0.051 086,0.005578,-0.001175,0.003461,0.024543,0.037176,-0.002761,0.007343,-0.013528,-0.023121,0.014522,0.000663,0.000261,0.010262,-0.00817,-0.004752,0.010981,-0.004699,-0.008504,-0.008555,0.003832
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:1979,0.133173,0.155376,0.049026,0.008721,0.04 5547,0.000837,-0.00235,-0.004154,0.027406,0.043737,-0.003085,0.012439,-0.023934,-0.016928,0.013572,-0.002784,-0.003912,-0.000253,0.000251,0.001,0.005366,0.000371,-0.003451,-0.020003,0.003712
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:1985,0.125205,0.153345,0.055814,0.008398,0.05 1702,0.002789,0.002585,0.003,0.026588,0.037905,-0.001624,0.007643,-0.019475,-0.014588,0.012758,0.009812,-0.011083,-0.002154,-0.001257,-0.002001,0.007487,-0.006059,-0.009367,-0.00241,-0.001078
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:2368,0.124067,0.148267,0.044877,0.002907,0.04 8317,-0.003904,-0.007285,-0.001154,0.023725,0.041368,0.005196,0.008243,-0.01888,-0.016239,0.007872,0.003447,-0.000522,0.012415,-0.002011,0.000375,0.009608,0.00136,-0.007641,-0.00964,0.000239
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:2373,0.125205,0.147252,0.054682,0.006783,0.05 2317,0.000558,0.001645,0.003923,0.02802,0.047746,-0.006496,0.011989,-0.022299,-0.015689,0.021987,-0.005701,-0.018254,0.001014,-0.009553,-0.002126,0,-0.002349,0.000493,-0.003494,-0.001676
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gixajo
03-29-2021, 12:09 AM
That's why i allways wonder how accurate and reliable are all those models.
This tool is to model ourselves with the populations of the sources, and that is the result that it gives us, a way of modeling ourselves through our coordinates.
It is a very useful tool, the best there is possibly right now.
The problem comes from the intention with which the model is made, and the reading that is made of the results.
But we have to read the results as "trends" and not as definitive%, and have results from many different models to have a solid base to get a better idea.
No single model is universally accepted as having accurate results for all origins, and even no single model is perfect for people from the same country.
This does not invalidate the models we make, including the one posted by Nassbean, which shows something that we all know (that the inhabitants of the Iberian Peninsula have NA admixture), but that when it comes to quantifying the %, we cannot precisely establish any % exactly.
The thing about the model with English and Irish, is not to denounce that Nassbean has "tricked" the model to obtain a high percentage of what he is interested in showing, (I would not be surprised if you had done it like that Nass ;)), if not to show that with a little of intuition choosing references, it can be done.
This tool is to model ourselves with the populations of the sources, and that is the result that it gives us, a way of modeling ourselves through our coordinates.
It is a very useful tool, the best there is possibly right now.
The problem comes from the intention with which the model is made, and the reading that is made of the results.
But we have to read the results as "trends" and not as definitive%, and have results from many different models to have a solid base to get a better idea.
No single model is universally accepted as having accurate results for all origins, and even no single model is perfect for people from the same country.
This does not invalidate the models we make, including the one posted by Nassbean, which shows something that we all know (that the inhabitants of the Iberian Peninsula have NA admixture), but that when it comes to quantifying the %, we cannot precisely establish any % exactly.
The thing about the model with English and Irish, is not to denounce that Nassbean has "tricked" the model to obtain a high percentage of what he is interested in showing, (I would not be surprised if you had done it like that Nass ;)), if not to show that with a little of intuition choosing references, it can be done.
I totally agree with you.
gixajo
03-29-2021, 12:17 AM
All of them are scaled samples.
But from official datasheet???
I´ve never seen these references...
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.1187% / 0.01118687
36.2 Spanish_Cantabria
22.6 Spanish_Aragon_North
18.2 Spanish_La_Rioja
13.2 French_Landes_Chalosse
4.0 Basque_Spanish_Alava
3.0 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North
2.8 Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West
Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.9587% / 0.01958724
54.8 Spanish_Cantabria
23.0 Spanish_La_Rioja
15.0 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North
7.2 Spanish_Aragon_North
Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.1236% / 0.01123619
30.8 Spanish_Cantabria
22.6 Spanish_Aragon_North
20.2 Spanish_Biscay_West
10.0 Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Central
9.2 French_Hautes-Pyrenees_Bigorre
4.4 French_Landes_Chalosse
2.2 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.6 Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Southwest
Edit: I would expect difefrent results, they are stranges too...
Lucas
03-29-2021, 12:23 AM
But from official datasheet???
I´ve never seen these references...
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.1187% / 0.01118687
36.2 Spanish_Cantabria
22.6 Spanish_Aragon_North
18.2 Spanish_La_Rioja
13.2 French_Landes_Chalosse
4.0 Basque_Spanish_Alava
3.0 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North
2.8 Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West
Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.9587% / 0.01958724
54.8 Spanish_Cantabria
23.0 Spanish_La_Rioja
15.0 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North
7.2 Spanish_Aragon_North
Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.1236% / 0.01123619
30.8 Spanish_Cantabria
22.6 Spanish_Aragon_North
20.2 Spanish_Biscay_West
10.0 Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Central
9.2 French_Hautes-Pyrenees_Bigorre
4.4 French_Landes_Chalosse
2.2 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.6 Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Southwest
Edit: I would expect difefrent results, they are stranges too...
Yes, new north Iberian and SW French refs added just few days ago. I must add it too to Vahaduo sheet...
But from official datasheet???
I´ve never seen these references...
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.1187% / 0.01118687
36.2 Spanish_Cantabria
22.6 Spanish_Aragon_North
18.2 Spanish_La_Rioja
13.2 French_Landes_Chalosse
4.0 Basque_Spanish_Alava
3.0 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North
2.8 Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West
Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.9587% / 0.01958724
54.8 Spanish_Cantabria
23.0 Spanish_La_Rioja
15.0 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North
7.2 Spanish_Aragon_North
Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.1236% / 0.01123619
30.8 Spanish_Cantabria
22.6 Spanish_Aragon_North
20.2 Spanish_Biscay_West
10.0 Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Central
9.2 French_Hautes-Pyrenees_Bigorre
4.4 French_Landes_Chalosse
2.2 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.6 Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Southwest
Edit: I would expect difefrent results, they are stranges too...
Theses refreces were put online by Marioupoulos from AG. They come from Genetic origins, singularity, and heterogeneity of Basques.
https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(21)00349-3?_returnURL=https%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com %2Fretrieve%2Fpii%2FS0960982221003493%3Fshowall%3D true
gixajo
03-29-2021, 12:42 AM
Yes, new north Iberian and SW French refs added just few days ago. I must add it too to Vahaduo sheet...
I would expect score more % in Álava, but quite well for me using them in a model just with Álava+Biscay+Guipúzcoa and Andalusian individual samples. Do we have already averages too? Now it´s too late, but I can do them tomorrow.
Basque_Spanish_Alava:6593,0.141141,0.152329,0.0644 88,0.012274,0.061242,0.003626,0.00188,0.005307,0.0 36201,0.04647,-0.006496,0.004196,-0.024083,-0.017065,0.013708,-0.008353,-0.014081,0.006841,0.000628,-0.004252,0.006738,0.008037,-0.005669,-0.005302,-0.003712
Basque_Spanish_Alava:6594,0.12862,0.139128,0.06071 6,0.010013,0.060627,0.003347,-0.011516,0.001154,0.022907,0.033349,-0.005034,0.002398,-0.021258,-0.018304,0.018051,-0.002121,-0.009127,-0.004307,0.001508,0.004502,0.013975,-0.000618,-0.00986,-0.007953,0.003353
Basque_Spanish_Alava:6648,0.119514,0.150298,0.0644 88,0.017442,0.059703,0.008088,-0.00047,0.003461,0.029451,0.047381,-0.016401,0.015736,-0.020812,-0.013487,0.011129,-0.002652,0.002608,0.001014,-0.004525,-0.009505,0.015473,0.009769,-0.005669,-0.01217,-0.004071
Basque_Spanish_Alava:7001,0.133173,0.152329,0.0509 11,0.02261,0.053856,0.009761,-0.003995,0.008307,0.027202,0.034989,-0.004709,0.008093,-0.020961,-0.007982,0.022665,0.004375,-0.005215,-0.004181,-0.00352,0.001126,0.007861,0.001607,-0.001479,-0.010604,-0.005868
Basque_Spanish_Alava:7004,0.122929,0.153345,0.0592 08,0.012274,0.050779,0.003347,-0.003055,0.006923,0.028429,0.036083,-0.009094,0.018284,-0.029435,-0.018441,0.024701,-0.004508,-0.013169,0.004307,-0.002011,-0.003001,0.011105,-0.002226,-0.009737,-0.006748,-0.004071
Basque_Spanish_Alava:7085,0.127482,0.148267,0.0637 33,0.008398,0.050471,0.005299,-0.003995,0,0.026997,0.042461,-0.007145,0.01139,-0.01665,-0.019955,0.003529,0.010342,-0.006519,-0.000887,0.006662,-0.00025,0.005116,-0.00272,-0.000493,-0.000964,0.003952
Basque_Spanish_Alava:7089,0.122929,0.152329,0.0561 91,0.030039,0.048317,0.00251,-0.006345,0.005307,0.024747,0.028976,-0.004547,0.006594,-0.017542,-0.017753,0.013708,0.000265,-0.005998,-0.001267,-0.004902,-0.00988,0.01672,-0.000618,-0.00493,-0.009519,0.007424
Basque_Spanish_Alava:7094,0.126344,0.148267,0.0675 05,0.015181,0.053856,-0.001394,-0.003055,0.002308,0.02127,0.034989,-0.013316,0.008093,-0.022894,-0.005367,0.019272,0.006895,-0.009779,-0.008488,0.001885,-0.005127,0.008984,-0.000247,-0.004067,-0.005302,-0.003592
Basque_Spanish_Alava:7250,0.132035,0.14319,0.05128 8,0.013243,0.044316,0.001116,-0.000235,0.006,0.02986,0.041368,-0.001299,0.017984,-0.020961,-0.014588,0.017372,-0.009546,-0.01017,-0.000253,0.00817,-0.009755,0.003244,-0.000247,-0.011832,0.000241,0.002874
Basque_Spanish_Alava:7265,0.125205,0.145221,0.0595 85,0.009367,0.052933,0.008646,0.00564,-0.001154,0.016362,0.036083,-0.005034,0.003897,-0.018583,-0.012111,0.014386,0.009281,0.001304,0.006841,0.005 154,-0.002501,0.006863,0.011994,-0.003328,-0.008435,-0.002994
Basque_Spanish_Alava:7799,0.124067,0.149283,0.0512 88,0.022933,0.055395,0.003904,-0.00141,0.007384,0.016157,0.036083,-0.00341,0.009292,-0.029583,-0.019405,0.016286,-0.012596,-0.010561,0.00114,-0.004651,-0.005753,0.00262,-0.003339,0.00419,-0.001928,0.001796
Basque_Spanish_Biscay:1611,0.12862,0.147252,0.0641 11,0.004845,0.052933,0.006693,0.003525,-0.002077,0.026588,0.040639,-0.013965,0.017984,-0.027056,-0.020093,0.012622,-0.000265,-0.009257,-0.00038,0.000126,-0.006003,0.004742,-0.004081,0.001109,-0.006507,-0.004071
Basque_Spanish_Biscay:1625,0.130897,0.159438,0.052 043,0.014858,0.057241,0.005857,0.00282,0.007615,0. 025975,0.036265,-0.01088,0.009292,-0.019029,-0.011836,0.011129,0.000133,-0.011735,-0.000127,0.007165,-0.007879,0.016845,-0.001607,-0.010969,-0.003253,0.006466
Basque_Spanish_Biscay:1634,0.130897,0.151314,0.059 585,0.017119,0.059703,0.016176,-0.001645,-0.002077,0.030474,0.04975,-0.005521,0.01124,-0.029881,-0.013762,0.023615,0.001591,-0.0103,0.004941,-0.000754,-0.004252,0.013351,0.000989,-0.01442,-0.006627,-0.005029
Basque_Spanish_Biscay:1638,0.127482,0.149283,0.064 111,0.014212,0.064627,0.005857,0.004935,0.006231,0 .027611,0.04811,-0.008769,0.019633,-0.026164,-0.017616,0.012893,0.005834,-0.00013,0.001647,0.001885,-0.008004,0.012603,0.002597,-0.005053,-0.013616,0.001078
Basque_Spanish_Biscay:1645,0.129758,0.147252,0.053 174,0.013566,0.057241,0.004462,-0.00423,0,0.018816,0.041003,-0.008607,0.015436,-0.024529,-0.023533,0.019001,0.007955,-0.005215,0.002534,-0.005154,0.002001,0.011105,0.001731,-0.010106,-0.003494,0.001676
Basque_Spanish_Biscay:2507,0.12862,0.155376,0.0667 5,0.013889,0.059088,0.009203,0.00141,-0.003461,0.028429,0.038452,-0.009581,0.010491,-0.027502,-0.016239,0.017372,0.00358,0.00339,0.006588,-0.005531,-0.003126,0.013975,0.000495,-0.011092,-0.008917,-0.008143
Basque_Spanish_Biscay:4451,0.134311,0.150298,0.056 191,0.000969,0.052317,0.000558,-0.00564,-0.004384,0.030883,0.042643,-0.000325,0.019183,-0.020812,-0.017065,0.023072,-0.010475,-0.005867,0.002407,-0.002137,0.006003,0.007736,0.007048,-0.000739,-0.001205,0.002155
Basque_Spanish_Biscay:4454,0.135449,0.149283,0.046 009,0.009044,0.065858,-0.000837,-0.00282,0.003461,0.039678,0.047564,-0.007307,0.009891,-0.018434,-0.012524,0.015744,-0.005171,-0.013299,-0.002534,-0.008296,-0.002126,0.007237,0.004081,-0.002342,-0.01446,0.002874
Basque_Spanish_Biscay:4455,0.125205,0.145221,0.051 288,0.016796,0.058472,0.005299,-0.00282,0.006231,0.022702,0.039363,-0.00341,0.016935,-0.026016,-0.023671,0.018051,0.006497,0.001043,0.003294,0.007 416,-0.009254,0.00861,0.008285,-0.012818,-0.010724,-0.006826
Basque_Spanish_Biscay:4487,0.130897,0.14319,0.0558 14,0.001615,0.037853,0.005578,-0.002585,0,0.020452,0.038999,-0.005034,0.013038,-0.025272,-0.015138,0.005157,-0.004375,-0.004955,0.009628,0.002011,0.007003,0.00549,-0.002226,-0.006039,-0.00976,0.010059
Basque_Spanish_Biscay:5711,0.129758,0.155376,0.059 208,0.010982,0.055703,0.006693,-0.00282,-0.001154,0.022702,0.038999,-0.009419,0.018583,-0.026313,-0.020231,0.014522,0.003713,0.004563,0.00266,0.0066 62,0.001251,0.008859,0.001113,-0.002465,-0.018316,-0.002634
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Southwest:3861,0.125205,0. 142174,0.064111,0.016473,0.060319,0.002231,0.00352 5,0.000231,0.024952,0.045559,-0.008282,0.013038,-0.020812,-0.024497,0.014929,0.01074,0.004172,0.005448,-0.002514,0.003627,0.015348,0.005441,-0.009244,-0.016629,0.00012
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Southwest:5376,0.132035,0. 151314,0.056191,0.011951,0.060627,0.007251,0.00070 5,0.002538,0.024338,0.040092,-0.000487,0.01139,-0.025421,-0.016377,0.020629,0.005569,0.002868,-0.000507,-0.00352,-0.004127,0.006738,-0.005317,-0.015159,-0.009278,0.003832
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Southwest:6531,0.132035,0. 151314,0.059585,0.017765,0.049548,0.004741,0.00446 5,-0.001846,0.02577,0.042279,-0.002273,0.011989,-0.022002,-0.016377,0.011808,0.007027,0.004303,0.006841,-0.003268,0.001751,0.01148,0.01014,-0.008751,-0.00723,0.002634
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Southwest:6636,0.129758,0. 142174,0.056945,0.014535,0.052317,-0.000837,-0.010105,-0.001385,0.01718,0.033349,-0.000325,0.014087,-0.030327,-0.020506,0.010586,0.00716,0.005085,0.00076,-0.001257,-0.004252,0.008235,-0.000495,-0.009367,-0.004579,0.002395
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Southwest:6639,0.130897,0. 145221,0.06675,0.016473,0.055087,0.005857,-0.00047,0.006,0.03211,0.049933,-0.011692,0.007943,-0.019623,-0.024222,0.019544,0.009149,-0.005346,0.00266,0.002263,0.002501,0.01672,0.00371 ,-0.018734,-0.017472,-0.003952
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Southwest:6642,0.133173,0. 148267,0.052797,0.010336,0.060319,-0.003626,-0.006345,0.004384,0.027202,0.051573,-0.009906,0.012439,-0.024826,-0.034681,0.019544,0.006099,0.008996,-0.000633,-0.001131,0.004502,0.015473,0.001731,-0.005669,-0.019039,0.005748
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Southwest:7241,0.126344,0. 160454,0.057699,0.016473,0.058472,0.00502,-0.002585,-0.001385,0.027815,0.039545,-0.011854,0.012589,-0.028394,-0.022708,0.020901,-0.000265,-0.02047,-0.001647,-0.001885,-0.004752,0.005865,0.00136,-0.019227,0.001687,0.007424
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Southwest:7653,0.135449,0. 150298,0.054682,0.007106,0.061858,-0.003904,0.000235,0,0.02577,0.040456,-0.002273,0.007044,-0.025124,-0.011285,0.013029,-0.00769,-0.015125,0.006081,0.000503,-0.001751,-0.003369,0.001978,-0.002342,-0.006386,-0.005269
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Southwest:7654,0.130897,0. 157407,0.050157,0.003876,0.056934,0.005299,-0.00188,-0.001846,0.026997,0.045195,-0.008282,0.009292,-0.024826,-0.012661,0.019408,0.002121,-0.007432,0.007095,0.00176,-0.007754,0.010357,-0.005441,-0.000863,-0.015906,0.003113
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Southwest:7664,0.134311,0. 148267,0.058831,0.014858,0.047701,0,-0.00705,-0.001154,0.02802,0.038087,-0.006008,0.006744,-0.00892,-0.017891,0.012622,0.002387,-0.003781,0.0019,-0.00817,-0.006503,0.014474,0.007048,-0.009367,-0.015183,-0.001916
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Southwest:7683,0.133173,0. 146236,0.059585,0.005168,0.059088,-0.001116,-0.00658,0.001846,0.035587,0.038999,-0.003085,0.003897,-0.015609,-0.013487,0.005293,0.012331,-0.002868,-0.000127,-0.00264,0.003877,0.011355,0.005812,-0.016392,0.000361,0.006945
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Central:7670,0.127482,0.14 8267,0.05506,0.005491,0.048624,-0.003626,-0.00517,0.005077,0.03436,0.038634,-0.008282,0.013638,-0.019177,-0.015138,0.012079,-0.003845,-0.010822,0.005068,-0.003897,-0.015632,0.007112,0.007296,-0.010106,-0.005181,0.008263
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Central:7672,0.135449,0.15 1314,0.055814,0.007429,0.057549,-0.004183,-0.00282,-0.004846,0.029656,0.03827,-0.003735,0.008842,-0.028989,-0.018441,0.021037,0.001458,-0.014081,-0.000507,0.00264,0.005127,0.00262,-0.002226,-0.00912,-0.011206,-0.009939
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Central:7677,0.127482,0.15 436,0.056945,0.013243,0.04924,0.003904,-0.00094,-0.003231,0.033542,0.045923,-0.010718,0.020682,-0.01665,-0.007294,0.016965,0,-0.001304,-0.005068,-0.000251,5e-04,0.006239,0.000371,-0.005916,-0.001205,0.001317
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Central:7678,0.132035,0.14 9283,0.057322,0.003553,0.060319,0.004462,-0.007285,0.000692,0.028633,0.038452,-0.013153,0.011989,-0.021407,-0.01679,0.027958,0.012994,0.004433,-0.002534,0.001006,-0.001126,0.007362,0.001484,-0.009983,-0.017954,0.000479
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Central:7692,0.135449,0.14 7252,0.048649,0.007752,0.057241,0.001394,-0.00564,-0.006692,0.028633,0.042279,0.002923,0.01094,-0.017691,-0.019955,0.016422,0.014717,0.009388,0.002914,0.002 64,-0.004877,0.007736,-0.004822,-0.016392,-0.011447,0.000359
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Central:7695,0.132035,0.15 436,0.058454,0.014858,0.062781,0.00502,-0.00094,0.005307,0.03211,0.044101,-0.004709,0.011839,-0.02215,-0.024222,0.009093,0.008486,-0.002608,0.003167,0.001006,-0.011506,0.003743,-0.005812,-0.011709,-0.012532,-0.000359
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Central:7699,0.129758,0.13 8112,0.056191,0.008721,0.061242,0.001116,-0.0094,0.005769,0.034565,0.044101,-0.002923,0.012739,-0.021407,-0.015964,0.016151,0.009414,0.003129,-0.003927,-0.002263,-0.001876,0.009234,-0.013231,-0.007518,-0.014098,0.003712
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Central:7756,0.135449,0.14 319,0.041483,0.016473,0.047701,-0.003068,-0.000235,0.000692,0.021066,0.042097,-0.008282,0.008393,-0.022299,-0.021744,0.013708,0.013392,-0.002738,0,-0.001383,-0.004752,0.002496,-0.001731,-0.013434,-0.008194,-0.001078
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Central:7760,0.127482,0.14 7252,0.048649,0.018411,0.059703,0.005857,-0.0047,0.000231,0.020043,0.038634,-0.009906,0.011989,-0.009514,-0.018441,0.017372,0.003978,-0.00678,0.000127,0.002263,-0.006128,0.001622,-0.002226,-0.012818,-0.014701,0.001078
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Central:7779,0.134311,0.15 7407,0.046763,0.013243,0.050779,0.000837,-0.000705,0.002769,0.034565,0.044283,-0.003573,0.017534,-0.030624,-0.02257,0.015608,0.011403,0.001173,0.006841,-0.005405,-0.012756,0.012478,0.002349,-0.008751,-0.005784,0.011735
Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Central:7819,0.124067,0.14 2174,0.067505,0.013889,0.05201,0.002231,-0.00611,0.000231,0.03027,0.040456,0.002273,0.01004 1,-0.017096,-0.014588,0.009093,-0.00769,-0.013038,0.009375,-0.003897,-0.003627,0.001123,0.004699,-0.008751,-0.011688,-0.00012
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:1256,0.12862,0.139128,0.049403,0.004522,0.052 317,-0.005857,-0.011751,-0.006923,0.033951,0.039363,-0.005521,0.01079,-0.02557,-0.016377,0.016694,-0.000398,-0.000913,0.005194,-0.003645,-0.007128,0.012228,-0.001855,-0.007148,-0.010724,0.001796
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:1262,0.120652,0.153345,0.067505,0.008721,0.05 878,0.000837,0.002115,-0.007384,0.022702,0.04483,-0.006171,0.014387,-0.029286,-0.015964,0.020629,0.000796,-0.002999,-0.00076,-0.000503,0.008754,0.010606,0.002968,-0.008627,-0.01217,0.002874
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:1266,0.121791,0.146236,0.051666,0.00323,0.040 007,0.001673,-0.00705,-0.000923,0.027406,0.034625,0.000162,-0.002098,-0.019475,-0.025323,0.011129,0.004375,0.00352,-0.002914,-0.002263,0.001126,0.00025,0.003833,-0.006162,-0.010242,-0.006107
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:1267,0.124067,0.148267,0.061094,0.009044,0.05 6318,0.000837,-0.005875,-0.002538,0.033746,0.044466,0.000974,0.011839,-0.017691,-0.023809,0.014386,0.001591,-0.007041,0.005448,-0.004777,-0.002626,-0.001497,-0.002597,-0.000986,0.003615,0.003952
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:1912,0.133173,0.145221,0.054682,0.005168,0.05 878,0.003347,0.001645,0,0.028838,0.039545,-0.012179,0.013488,-0.020515,-0.010459,0.010179,-0.003713,-0.006258,0.001267,-0.006913,0.002376,0.006988,0.010263,-0.005916,-0.003012,0.001916
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:1918,0.126344,0.149283,0.054682,0.00323,0.051 086,0.005578,-0.001175,0.003461,0.024543,0.037176,-0.002761,0.007343,-0.013528,-0.023121,0.014522,0.000663,0.000261,0.010262,-0.00817,-0.004752,0.010981,-0.004699,-0.008504,-0.008555,0.003832
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:1979,0.133173,0.155376,0.049026,0.008721,0.04 5547,0.000837,-0.00235,-0.004154,0.027406,0.043737,-0.003085,0.012439,-0.023934,-0.016928,0.013572,-0.002784,-0.003912,-0.000253,0.000251,0.001,0.005366,0.000371,-0.003451,-0.020003,0.003712
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:1985,0.125205,0.153345,0.055814,0.008398,0.05 1702,0.002789,0.002585,0.003,0.026588,0.037905,-0.001624,0.007643,-0.019475,-0.014588,0.012758,0.009812,-0.011083,-0.002154,-0.001257,-0.002001,0.007487,-0.006059,-0.009367,-0.00241,-0.001078
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:2368,0.124067,0.148267,0.044877,0.002907,0.04 8317,-0.003904,-0.007285,-0.001154,0.023725,0.041368,0.005196,0.008243,-0.01888,-0.016239,0.007872,0.003447,-0.000522,0.012415,-0.002011,0.000375,0.009608,0.00136,-0.007641,-0.00964,0.000239
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:2373,0.125205,0.147252,0.054682,0.006783,0.05 2317,0.000558,0.001645,0.003923,0.02802,0.047746,-0.006496,0.011989,-0.022299,-0.015689,0.021987,-0.005701,-0.018254,0.001014,-0.009553,-0.002126,0,-0.002349,0.000493,-0.003494,-0.001676
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:2375,0.137726,0.148267,0.042238,0.000969,0.05 2625,-0.000837,-0.011281,-0.003692,0.029042,0.049386,-0.006333,0.012589,-0.021407,-0.02835,0.019272,0.002652,0.001304,-0.004181,-0.015587,-5e-04,0.015847,0.003091,-0.011709,-0.011086,-0.009221
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Northwest:5836,0.121791,0.1 46236,0.051666,0.013566,0.05201,-0.001673,-0.001175,0.010846,0.022089,0.036629,-0.011042,0.012289,-0.029881,-0.011698,0.019272,0.004641,-0.005476,0.007095,-0.00352,-0.005503,0.010856,0.003957,-0.000739,-0.021087,-0.000958
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Northwest:5848,0.135449,0.1 4319,0.059962,0.013243,0.06832,0.003904,0.004465,-0.000462,0.036405,0.041368,-0.002923,0.010641,-0.019177,-0.014588,0.014658,0.00305,-0.011735,0.004687,-0.005908,0.001251,0.00574,-0.002473,-0.001232,-0.004338,0.001317
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Northwest:5987,0.132035,0.1 50298,0.048271,0.00646,0.060934,0.00502,-0.00376,0.000692,0.026997,0.038634,-0.013316,0.004646,-0.027651,-0.018304,0.020087,0.00358,0.000522,0.003421,-0.005028,-0.000625,0.011854,0.000618,-0.006779,-0.00735,0.010059
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Northwest:5991,0.136588,0.1 49283,0.064111,0.008721,0.057241,0.000558,-0.00799,-0.002077,0.034155,0.045195,0.00406,0.014087,-0.023042,-0.015276,0.018729,0.005569,-0.002347,0.00114,-0.003017,-0.002751,0.009733,0.012736,-0.012202,-0.00241,0.005389
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Northwest:5992,0.129758,0.1 49283,0.056191,0.012274,0.050779,0.000837,0.002585 ,0.006692,0.026384,0.050662,-0.009906,0.012439,-0.016501,-0.029726,0.00665,0.010209,0.011213,0.004561,0.0086 73,0.005503,-0.001497,-0.005935,-0.012818,-0.010604,-0.002036
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Northwest:5995,0.122929,0.1 5436,0.05506,0.015181,0.05601,0.005299,-0.000705,0.000692,0.032519,0.04319,-0.004872,0.012289,-0.027056,-0.027249,0.015879,0.003713,-0.000391,0.000887,-0.004902,-0.003377,0.011105,0.006306,-0.011955,-0.013737,0.00012
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Northwest:6081,0.127482,0.1 48267,0.061471,0.006137,0.05878,0.00251,0.000235,0 .009923,0.037837,0.050297,-0.001137,0.012739,-0.025867,-0.026561,0.017779,-0.000663,-0.002477,0.006588,-0.004651,-0.005378,0.015098,-0.002226,-0.010106,-0.009399,0.001916
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Northwest:6354,0.125205,0.1 55376,0.049026,0.007106,0.058165,-0.003626,0.007285,0.000923,0.032519,0.050479,-0.001461,0.012739,-0.023191,-0.015276,0.008007,-0.010475,-0.021253,-0.000127,-0.001383,0.000875,0.00861,0.006183,-0.001109,-0.016749,0.005149
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Northwest:6395,0.132035,0.1 5436,0.058454,0.013243,0.056626,0.004183,-0.006345,-0.004846,0.024952,0.048839,-0.004709,0.013938,-0.037314,-0.011698,0.013436,0.000133,-0.01004,0.003547,-0.003268,-0.003627,0.017469,0.004451,-0.019227,-0.013375,0.000479
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Northwest:6476,0.132035,0.1 49283,0.055814,0.010659,0.060011,-0.001394,-0.00094,-0.001846,0.025565,0.047199,-0.013153,0.017984,-0.02111,-0.021056,0.010586,0.001326,0.000913,0.000507,-0.006285,-0.004627,0.009483,0.004081,-0.013927,-0.017231,0.005508
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Northwest:7039,0.129758,0.1 47252,0.061094,0.009367,0.054472,-0.008925,-0.00047,0.002308,0.032928,0.040639,-0.008282,0.009142,-0.016799,-0.020231,0.010586,0.007292,0.002608,0.009122,0.006 662,-0.011881,0.012104,-0.003586,-0.012695,-0.003856,0.001078
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Roncal:5621,0.132035,0.1523 29,0.065619,0.007429,0.048317,0.003904,0.00376,-0.006461,0.033133,0.039363,-0.005684,0.008692,-0.020367,-0.023533,0.018865,0.00305,-0.007953,0.00152,0.003142,-0.006378,0.004492,0.004328,-0.006655,-0.006266,-0.000239
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Roncal:5626,0.138864,0.1462 36,0.050534,0.021964,0.051086,0.001394,-0.00282,0.000923,0.033542,0.038816,-0.006496,0.004946,-0.018137,-0.015551,0.014929,0.000265,-0.00013,-0.00114,0.001508,-0.005127,0.015847,0.000618,-0.00419,-0.015785,0.005628
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Roncal:5637,0.127482,0.1553 76,0.041483,0.008721,0.062473,-0.000558,0.003055,-0.007384,0.030474,0.043919,-0.008444,0.010191,-0.015758,-0.013487,0.0095,0.002121,-0.004042,0.008742,0.008045,0.000375,0.00861,-0.002226,-0.000123,-0.006748,-0.001796
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Roncal:6278,0.132035,0.1452 21,0.052043,0.009367,0.053856,0,-0.01081,-0.001385,0.031292,0.035354,-0.005034,0.012289,-0.017245,-0.015276,0.019951,-0.007027,-0.014994,0.007475,0.003142,0.003252,0.0141,-0.001237,-0.005669,-0.002048,0.002754
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Roncal:6295,0.125205,0.1543 6,0.050534,0.014212,0.052625,0.000279,-0.009635,0.010384,0.037223,0.03991,-0.007307,0.006444,-0.0278,-0.012799,0.016286,-0.001989,-0.011343,-0.002027,-0.000126,-0.006878,0.007362,-0.003215,-0.012078,-0.008555,-0.005029
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Roncal:6358,0.132035,0.1533 45,0.050911,0.004199,0.051394,0.008088,-0.0047,-0.002538,0.034155,0.034807,-0.000812,0.006145,-0.016799,-0.022432,0.020087,0.012066,0.014342,0.007095,-0.007793,0.006503,0.009358,-0.000495,-0.000616,-0.010001,0.001676
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Roncal:6361,0.125205,0.1462 36,0.053928,0.017765,0.059396,-0.003068,-0.003525,-0.003461,0.037632,0.044466,-0.012179,0.01109,-0.01888,-0.018304,0.0076,0.012596,0.006519,0.003801,0.00238 8,0.002376,0.000125,-0.000989,-0.002095,-0.012893,-0.005389
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Roncal:6366,0.136588,0.1401 43,0.055437,0.012597,0.055395,0.00251,0.00235,0.00 5769,0.025565,0.037905,-0.011854,0.013038,-0.021704,-0.026974,0.020629,0.008751,0.009909,0.0019,-0.001383,0.004127,0.003619,0.008903,0.001972,-0.006386,0.008502
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Roncal:7977,0.136588,0.1421 74,0.047894,0.01615,0.059088,0.006136,0.00376,0.00 5769,0.030883,0.041368,-0.006008,0.013188,-0.020069,-0.011147,0.014794,-0.003978,-0.008996,0.008995,0.000628,-0.001251,0.010606,0.008161,-0.01405,-0.012291,0.00946
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Roncal:7995,0.134311,0.1492 83,0.067127,0.010336,0.051394,0.008088,-0.00047,0.001154,0.035383,0.042279,-0.002923,0.013038,-0.020069,-0.013349,0.016558,-0.004906,-0.014733,0.007095,0.002011,-0.008129,0.008859,-0.000124,-0.001602,-0.008676,0.002155
Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Roncal:7999,0.121791,0.1523 29,0.069013,0.011628,0.055087,-0.009203,0.003525,0.007615,0.0407,0.046106,-0.008444,0.012289,-0.028394,-0.013625,0.014658,-0.012198,-0.011083,-0.002534,-0.009176,-0.002626,0.010107,0.000989,-0.015283,-0.006145,-0.001916
Spanish_Biscay_West:5619,0.113823,0.151314,0.04978 ,0.01938,0.042162,-0.000837,0.008695,0.004846,0.026384,0.038087,0.000 974,0.001649,-0.017096,-0.019267,0.017915,-0.007558,-0.01695,0.003294,0.000628,-0.007504,0.01123,-0.004822,-0.00456,0.007953,0.005029
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Spanish_Biscay_West:6441,0.118376,0.148267,0.05958 5,0.009367,0.053548,-0.001394,-0.009165,0.010153,0.028224,0.025695,-0.008931,0.006744,-0.022299,-0.0139,0.008143,0.006364,0.000391,0.002787,-0.001383,0.008004,0.01123,0.002844,-0.011585,0.000723,-0.00958
Spanish_Biscay_West:6446,0.127482,0.147252,0.04563 2,0.004522,0.059088,0.00753,-0.00893,0.011076,0.027611,0.039363,-0.001137,0.015586,-0.017839,-0.008533,0.010993,-0.00305,-0.009518,-0.003547,-0.00264,-0.00025,0.007612,0.008161,-0.008627,-0.002169,0.00467
Spanish_Biscay_West:6447,0.112685,0.153345,0.05242 ,0.005814,0.045239,0.001952,0.00188,-0.000231,0.024134,0.034078,-0.013478,0.012289,-0.016799,-0.013487,0.001086,0.005436,-0.001956,0.005321,-0.00264,-0.003502,0.007112,-0.004946,-0.008258,-0.008555,0.010418
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Spanish_Andalucia:AND43,0.110408,0.146236,0.041483 ,-0.001938,0.044008,-0.01506,0.005405,0.004846,0.021884,0.026971,0.0001 62,0.003897,-0.017839,-0.012386,0.008279,-0.000133,-0.004955,0.003801,0.003897,0.004127,0.011854,0.002 102,0.000616,-0.008435,0.001916
Spanish_Andalucia:AND46,0.114961,0.147252,0.037712 ,-0.00323,0.051702,0.001673,-0.00705,-0.004154,0.017998,0.027882,-0.004709,0.010491,-0.012339,-0.008395,0.021715,-0.008353,-0.015385,-0.003421,-0.007793,-0.011881,0.000998,0.000866,0.00037,-0.010001,-0.001197
Spanish_Andalucia:AND7,0.111547,0.145221,0.027153,-0.015181,0.043085,-0.008088,-0.00799,-0.001385,0.02168,0.033714,-0.008282,0.006294,-0.001635,-0.01156,0.007736,0.005701,0.00665,0,-0.005908,-0.008879,-0.000749,-0.003586,0.00456,0.001205,-0.001916
Spanish_Andalucia:AND75,0.108132,0.144205,0.02753,-0.005814,0.053856,-0.01255,-0.00047,0.004154,0.024747,0.035354,-0.003248,0.005245,-0.010406,-0.02202,0.013979,0.007955,0.011474,-0.007855,-0.01433,0.004502,0.00025,-0.005317,-0.00912,0.001928,0.002754
Spanish_Andalucia:AND77,0.097888,0.150298,0.037335 ,-0.003553,0.044931,-0.00753,-0.003995,0.010384,0.032519,0.03098,-0.001137,0.011839,-0.012933,-0.007432,0.010993,-0.007292,-0.022296,-0.002407,-0.016089,-0.009004,0.002246,-0.001113,-0.001479,-0.002048,-0.005389
Spanish_Andalucia:AND80,0.101303,0.140143,0.032432 ,0.000323,0.044931,-0.004462,-0.00846,0.004154,0.026179,0.033167,-0.005196,0.002698,-0.013528,-0.013349,0.019544,-0.000663,-0.012517,-0.004941,-0.007165,-0.006628,-0.005989,-0.005688,-0.005793,-0.010363,0.008981
Spanish_Andalucia:AND84,0.108132,0.144205,0.036958 ,-0.006137,0.054779,-0.006693,-0.00047,0.004154,0.024952,0.028064,0,0.004646,-0.015163,-0.001927,0.007193,-0.011403,-0.012647,-0.001267,-0.005656,0.003377,0.002371,0.000371,-0.001232,-0.007953,0.005748
Spanish_Andalucia:AND86,0.103579,0.151314,0.030924 ,-0.001938,0.031083,-0.001952,0.000705,0.006923,0.025975,0.029522,-0.002273,0.01169,-0.017096,-0.013762,0.012758,-0.010607,-0.014864,0.0019,-0.002137,-0.002501,0.006114,0.000495,-0.000863,-0.008676,0.000599
Spanish_Andalucia:HG01619,0.113823,0.149283,0.0275 3,0.001615,0.040623,-0.001673,-0.00141,0.002538,0.016975,0.033896,-0.003573,0.007343,-0.019177,-0.013212,0.00855,0.001193,0.002086,0.001394,-0.000628,-0.006753,0.004367,-0.000618,0.002588,-0.00253,0.005149
Spanish_Andalucia:HG01620,0.110408,0.147252,0.0403 52,-0.007429,0.042777,-0.004183,0.00047,0.001846,0.016771,0.024602,-0.003248,0.004046,-0.009663,-0.018029,0.009093,-0.01074,-0.01369,-0.003421,-0.004777,-0.008754,0.005865,-0.001237,-0.00456,-0.006627,-0.002036
Spanish_Andalucia:HG01623,0.104717,0.152329,0.0369 58,-0.008398,0.046778,-0.006693,-0.00188,-0.003692,0.022907,0.032256,-0.003248,0.006894,-0.013825,-0.015414,0.00285,-0.003978,0.002999,0.000253,-0.001634,0.002126,0.001248,-0.001484,-0.001479,-0.003253,-0.004191
Near 50% of both.:thumb001:
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.1608% / 0.01160784
48.8 Spanish_Andalucia
16.4 Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Southwest
15.6 Basque_Spanish_Alava
10.2 Basque_Spanish_Gipuzkoa_Central
9.0 Spanish_Biscay_West
gixajo
03-29-2021, 12:45 AM
I am really happy that the modern populations are being updated with new samples, it´s fantastic, thanks.:thumb001:
gixajo
03-29-2021, 12:47 AM
And just with Andalusian and Álava individual samples:
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.2670% / 0.01266956
52.8 Spanish_Andalucia
47.2 Basque_Spanish_Alava
Seriously, I'm surprised by such precision.:eek:
Edit:Considering than my mother coordinates doen´t look her as particularly "Basque" Alavese, I would expect even less Álava and more Andalusia in my results.
All of them are scaled samples.
I get:
Target: Luso_scaled
Distance: 2.8607% / 0.02860732
81.0 Spanish_Cantabria
17.2 Spanish_Biscay_West
1.8 Spanish_La_Rioja
Distance to: Luso_scaled
0.03658127 Spanish_Cantabria:4146
0.03678545 Spanish_La_Rioja:1459
0.03709597 Spanish_Cantabria:2131
0.03775097 Spanish_Cantabria:4156
0.03903547 Spanish_Cantabria:2200
0.03946785 Spanish_Cantabria:2227
0.04060516 Spanish_La_Rioja:1346
0.04067935 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:2721
0.04193014 French_Pyrenees-Atlantiques_Bearn:1698
0.04268895 Spanish_Cantabria:2119
0.04305815 Spanish_Biscay_West:5619
0.04381168 Spanish_Biscay_West:7344
0.04424179 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:3194
0.04452497 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:2732
0.04489198 Spanish_Aragon_North:2291
0.04501883 Spanish_Cantabria:4177
0.04503206 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:HG01500:2670
0.04562533 Spanish_Biscay_West:7153
0.04571010 Spanish_La_Rioja:1142
0.04593299 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:2774
0.04599579 Spanish_Cantabria:2193
0.04631523 Spanish_Biscay_West:5620
0.04632617 Spanish_La_Rioja:1567
0.04667313 Spanish_La_Rioja:1571
0.04706789 Spanish_Biscay_West:6447
Is there any other new samples related to Portugal, western iberia?
I get:
Target: Luso_scaled
Distance: 2.8607% / 0.02860732
81.0 Spanish_Cantabria
17.2 Spanish_Biscay_West
1.8 Spanish_La_Rioja
Distance to: Luso_scaled
0.03658127 Spanish_Cantabria:4146
0.03678545 Spanish_La_Rioja:1459
0.03709597 Spanish_Cantabria:2131
0.03775097 Spanish_Cantabria:4156
0.03903547 Spanish_Cantabria:2200
0.03946785 Spanish_Cantabria:2227
0.04060516 Spanish_La_Rioja:1346
0.04067935 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:2721
0.04193014 French_Pyrenees-Atlantiques_Bearn:1698
0.04268895 Spanish_Cantabria:2119
0.04305815 Spanish_Biscay_West:5619
0.04381168 Spanish_Biscay_West:7344
0.04424179 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:3194
0.04452497 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:2732
0.04489198 Spanish_Aragon_North:2291
0.04501883 Spanish_Cantabria:4177
0.04503206 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:HG01500:2670
0.04562533 Spanish_Biscay_West:7153
0.04571010 Spanish_La_Rioja:1142
0.04593299 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:2774
0.04599579 Spanish_Cantabria:2193
0.04631523 Spanish_Biscay_West:5620
0.04632617 Spanish_La_Rioja:1567
0.04667313 Spanish_La_Rioja:1571
0.04706789 Spanish_Biscay_West:6447
Is there any other new samples related to Portugal, western iberia?
No. You have all the samples from the study.
PaleoEuropean
03-29-2021, 01:47 AM
If you're new to Y-DNA, it's cool. We all were at one point and said stupid shit before.
"Y-DNA haplogroups carried by members of "The Wales Cymru DNA Project" include E1b1a1 (E-L117), E1b1a1a1b1a (E-V13), E1b1a1b2a1a (E-M34), G1a1a1, G2a1, I1 (I-M253), I1d1a1a, I2c2a (I-M223, I-P37, etc.), J1, J2, R1a1a (R-M512, R-M198, R-M173, R-Z280), R1b1a (R-M269, R-M173, R-L21), and R1b1a1a1a1a (R-P312), among others. Mitochondrial DNA haplogroups carried by members include H, H3c2b, H1au1a, H10e, H6a1b2, H7b3, I, J, K1b2a2, K2a, T2, U3, U5, and others."
So are Welshies and Irish Blacks now? Both have E1b1a1. If you took the time to go through ethnic projects and surname projects you would have better insight than just google results.
Grace O'Malley
03-29-2021, 01:51 AM
davidsky closed one part of his site so I can't access to the coordinates I want but let's try with this :
Basque_Spanish,0.132035,0.146236,0.059585,0.008075 ,0.060934,0.008367,0.003995,-0.006231,0.026997,0.047564,-0.008282,0.008393,-0.018285,-0.019542,0.011401,0.00769,0.001434,0.014569,-0.004022,0.006128,0.012977,-0.003586,-0.007765,-0.004217,0.004071
Basque_Spanish,0.134311,0.15436,0.056945,0.00646,0 .056934,-0.002789,-0.002585,-0.003231,0.032928,0.046288,-0.012666,0.008542,-0.025718,-0.026424,0.011943,-0.000398,-0.01343,0.001394,-0.001131,0.004252,0.006988,-0.005564,-0.012448,-0.006868,0.005868
German:,0.12862,0.132019,0.05242,0.042959,0.051086 ,0.025379,0.006345,0.006692,-0.005727,-0.005285,-0.016888,0.003447,-0.002973,-0.007019,0.011536,0.007027,-0.001173,-0.002407,-0.002765,0.002876,0.007112,-0.005193,-0.001232,0.01217,-0.000479
German,0.118376,0.127957,0.060339,0.043928,0.04062 3,0.005299,-0.00188,0.010615,0.002659,-0.002187,-0.001949,-0.002698,-0.002973,-0.003303,-0.002579,0.003978,-0.00326,0.011402,0.001383,0.004752,-0.004742,0.005935,0.007888,0.016026,-0.00012
Levantine:149532,0.083091,0.152329,-0.060716,-0.089471,-0.011387,-0.034582,-0.002585,-0.011769,0.018612,0.006196,0.002923,-0.011989,0.025272,0.012799,-0.006107,0.007425,-0.005867,0.00152,0.007416,0.000875,-0.001373,0.005564,-0.003204,-0.002169,0.002634
Levantine:149533,0.088782,0.150298,-0.058454,-0.095931,-0.007078,-0.036535,-0.00188,-0.007384,0.015135,0.006743,0.013153,-0.010191,0.023042,0.015827,-0.0057,-0.003845,-0.013299,-0.000887,-0.000503,-0.005628,-0.002745,0.006059,0.002835,-0.00241,0.009101
Italian,0.105855,0.152329,-0.012445,-0.048127,0.016311,-0.007809,0.000235,0.002308,0.005727,0.019317,-0.004384,-0.003147,-0.002825,0.00867,-0.011943,-0.010209,-0.005867,-0.00152,0.003771,-0.014132,-0.007487,0.000742,0.006039,0.001566,-0.007424
Italian,0.104717,0.153345,-0.012068,-0.0323,0.013233,-0.011713,-0.00188,-0.001846,0.003068,0.027335,0.000487,-0.000899,-0.007582,0.001789,-0.002036,-0.011005,-0.00691,0.003927,0.015587,-0.003126,-0.009858,0.008779,-0.003451,0.009158,0.005748
Berber,-0.021626,0.146236,-0.009051,-0.088502,0.030775,-0.041276,-0.032901,-0.001846,0.069538,0.030616,0.001137,-0.015286,0.024529,-0.016652,0.018322,-0.027844,-0.007302,-0.022551,-0.040475,0.012131,-0.014599,-0.035859,0.026498,-0.005543,0.009939
Berber,-0.033009,0.140143,-0.001508,-0.079135,0.024928,-0.035977,-0.035957,0.010615,0.070765,0.029887,0.00406,-0.005545,0.020367,-0.004542,0.016965,-0.019491,-0.002868,-0.027998,-0.050154,0.012756,-0.011605,-0.035365,0.027114,-0.003133,0.002634
Yoruba,-0.628304,0.061947,0.021496,0.01615,-0.001539,0.003347,-0.042067,0.049152,-0.050108,0.030616,-0.000974,0.003897,0.023191,-0.006468,0.00475,-0.004773,0.005737,-0.007601,0.00729,-0.002876,0.004991,0.000495,-0.006409,0.002771,-0.005029
Yoruba,-0.627165,0.060932,0.019987,0.01615,0.001539,0.0178 49,-0.043947,0.043152,-0.050722,0.029522,0.006008,0.001199,0.01888,-0.00055,0.011672,-0.012729,0.00665,0.002027,0.008296,-0.007629,0.004617,0.007172,-0.000863,-0.003253,0.004191
random portuguese :
Target: Portuguese:EBC_Portugal10
Distance: 2.0694% / 0.02069399
50.8 Basque_Spanish
20.4 German
13.0 Berber
13.0 Italian
2.8 Levantine
Target: Portuguese:EBC_Portugal11
Distance: 2.2761% / 0.02276054
49.2 Basque_Spanish
24.2 German
13.0 Berber
8.2 Levantine
5.4 Italian
Just wanted to try this. Of course it's not a good model for me but as someone who is not Iberian this is what I get.
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 3.6635% / 0.03663453
89.6 German
10.4 Basque_Spanish
Distances are a bit big.
Grace O'Malley
03-29-2021, 01:59 AM
And just let´s see something curious that we can get if we know how to choose the right references,an small improvised model made with Levantine, Berber and Yoruban individual samples used by Nass with just one I add (Norwegian average, if I select 2 individual samples I can change somewhat results), to "show" if Irish individual samples have Levantine, Yoruban or Berber ancestry.
Norwegian,0.1338234,0.1279567,0.0679357,0.0534334, 0.0386443,0.0210366,0.0041964,0.0062964,0.0057267, 0.0003906,-0.0037349,0.0036823,-0.007518,-0.011698,0.0210754,0.0093949,-0.0054203,0.0026061,0.0006823,0.0007503,0.005633,0 .0055643,0.0042784,0.0177304,0.0010947
Levantine:149532,0.083091,0.152329,-0.060716,-0.089471,-0.011387,-0.034582,-0.002585,-0.011769,0.018612,0.006196,0.002923,-0.011989,0.025272,0.012799,-0.006107,0.007425,-0.005867,0.00152,0.007416,0.000875,-0.001373,0.005564,-0.003204,-0.002169,0.002634
Levantine:149533,0.088782,0.150298,-0.058454,-0.095931,-0.007078,-0.036535,-0.00188,-0.007384,0.015135,0.006743,0.013153,-0.010191,0.023042,0.015827,-0.0057,-0.003845,-0.013299,-0.000887,-0.000503,-0.005628,-0.002745,0.006059,0.002835,-0.00241,0.009101
Berber,-0.021626,0.146236,-0.009051,-0.088502,0.030775,-0.041276,-0.032901,-0.001846,0.069538,0.030616,0.001137,-0.015286,0.024529,-0.016652,0.018322,-0.027844,-0.007302,-0.022551,-0.040475,0.012131,-0.014599,-0.035859,0.026498,-0.005543,0.009939
Berber,-0.033009,0.140143,-0.001508,-0.079135,0.024928,-0.035977,-0.035957,0.010615,0.070765,0.029887,0.00406,-0.005545,0.020367,-0.004542,0.016965,-0.019491,-0.002868,-0.027998,-0.050154,0.012756,-0.011605,-0.035365,0.027114,-0.003133,0.002634
Yoruba,-0.628304,0.061947,0.021496,0.01615,-0.001539,0.003347,-0.042067,0.049152,-0.050108,0.030616,-0.000974,0.003897,0.023191,-0.006468,0.00475,-0.004773,0.005737,-0.007601,0.00729,-0.002876,0.004991,0.000495,-0.006409,0.002771,-0.005029
Yoruba,-0.627165,0.060932,0.019987,0.01615,0.001539,0.0178 49,-0.043947,0.043152,-0.050722,0.029522,0.006008,0.001199,0.01888,-0.00055,0.011672,-0.012729,0.00665,0.002027,0.008296,-0.007629,0.004617,0.007172,-0.000863,-0.003253,0.004191
Irish:509,0.133173,0.128972,0.065242,0.055879,0.03 5699,0.029562,0.0047,0.003461,0.007567,-0.001276,-0.00065,0.005395,-0.00996,-0.012248,0.029858,0.005701,-0.014342,0.011149,0.000377,0.004002,0.002246,-0.003462,0.008258,0.016147,0.006706
Irish:510,0.130897,0.140143,0.064865,0.049742,0.03 416,0.022311,-0.002115,-0.007615,0.00409,0.004374,0.000162,0.008393,-0.018583,-0.017203,0.020222,0.005436,-0.004824,0.000887,0.002891,0.006753,0.001497,0.002 844,0.005176,0.01699,-0.006945
Irish:511,0.137726,0.14319,0.056191,0.050388,0.029 544,0.012829,0.00705,-0.000462,0.003477,-0.000729,-0.000812,0.008542,-0.011893,-0.008395,0.023208,-0.005038,-0.022948,0.003674,0.000754,0.004877,0.000998,0.000 371,-0.005176,0.011809,0.000838
Irish:512,0.130897,0.125926,0.067127,0.055233,0.03 97,0.019522,0.004465,0.005769,0.016771,0.001822,-0.005684,-3e-04,-0.011447,-0.011285,0.026194,0.009149,-0.004563,0.001647,-0.001257,0.008754,0.005116,0.002968,0.003697,0.013 978,0.007544
Irish:513,0.132035,0.122879,0.059962,0.059755,0.02 8928,0.02259,0.00423,0.004615,0.0045,-0.002005,-0.000974,0.002248,-0.00996,-0.01734,0.028908,0.008618,-0.002608,0.006461,0.004022,0,0.007986,0.003091,0.0 10846,0.017593,0.00479
Irish:514,0.141141,0.125926,0.059962,0.054587,0.04 1546,0.02008,0.004465,0.011769,0.000409,0.017495,-0.005521,0.007493,-0.013677,-0.027112,0.028094,0.017237,-0.007302,-0.000127,0.004274,0.011005,0.00549,0.00779,-0.000123,0.014219,-0.008382
Irish:515,0.12862,0.131003,0.065619,0.037791,0.044 316,0.018407,0.011045,0.010615,0.011044,0.006378,-0.012666,0.008542,-0.013528,-0.011423,0.034066,0.00411,-0.027511,0.001394,-0.011187,0.004002,0.004617,0.001731,-0.000246,0.023738,-0.012454
Irish:516,0.133173,0.131003,0.062979,0.052972,0.03 3237,0.026495,0.00987,0.003,0.008181,0.002187,-0.014128,0.001948,-0.015758,-0.009358,0.019951,0.009414,-0.007562,0.001267,0.000251,0.004502,0.007612,0.011 376,-0.007765,0.005784,-0.002515
Irish:517,0.126344,0.136081,0.058077,0.056202,0.03 2006,0.031794,0.009635,0.013153,-0.000409,0.003098,0.001624,0.003447,-0.014717,-0.018992,0.021444,0.005967,-0.009648,-0.000887,-0.00352,0.002376,0,-0.004081,0.004437,0.014219,-0.000239
Irish:518,0.141141,0.123895,0.057699,0.056202,0.03 8469,0.023985,0.00376,0.003,0.005113,-0.005103,0.002761,0.003747,-0.015758,-0.01968,0.028773,0.00716,-0.010822,0.004181,-0.001885,-0.000625,0.003993,0.008903,0.008627,0.01205,0.0007 18
Irish:520,0.138864,0.129988,0.061094,0.049742,0.03 97,0.022032,0.00799,0.001846,0.007772,-0.003098,-0.000162,-0.001049,-0.017691,-0.007569,0.032573,-0.002254,-0.02034,0.004434,-0.006411,-0.005878,0.007237,0.007172,0.010476,0.006507,0.001 916
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Irish:Irish54,0.136588,0.125926,0.062225,0.057817, 0.041854,0.013387,0.000235,0.000692,0.00634,0.0020 05,-0.009581,0.003747,-0.018434,-0.016239,0.026601,0.01538,-0.008345,-0.00114,-0.000377,0.002876,0.009608,0.001484,0.001725,0.008 676,0.003712
Irish:Irish55,0.130897,0.14319,0.055814,0.04199,0. 040623,0.022032,-0.000235,0.005538,0.003477,-0.002551,-0.004547,0.002847,-0.006095,-0.014038,0.020087,0.008088,-0.010952,0.003674,0.006411,0.013506,0.004118,0.002 102,-0.001232,0.017593,0.001557
Irish:Irish56,0.136588,0.132019,0.063733,0.050065, 0.045239,0.024542,-0.004465,0.004384,-0.000614,0.00656,-0.008931,0.010641,-0.012339,-0.008395,0.02918,0.003713,-0.015907,-0.004687,-0.00264,0.002876,0.003244,-0.00136,-0.001356,0.00976,-0.01425
Irish:Irish57,0.135449,0.129988,0.057699,0.048127, 0.041238,0.016176,0.003055,0.006692,0.003681,-0.000547,-0.003897,0.006744,-0.013379,-0.012937,0.028501,-0.002387,-0.007693,0.003421,-0.001006,-0.000375,0.006863,0.000124,-0.002958,0.013496,0.013053
Irish:Irish58,0.129758,0.131003,0.07203,0.045866,0 .038469,0.011156,0.00799,0.007154,0.001227,0.00473 8,-0.011854,0.010041,-0.019029,-0.002064,0.02348,-0.00053,-0.022426,-0.000507,0.003142,-0.003252,0.001248,0.004328,0.000123,0.01205,-0.000958
Irish:Irish59,0.138864,0.142174,0.062602,0.048127, 0.044624,0.012271,-0.00094,0.000923,0.012067,0.000182,-0.006658,0.000899,-0.007582,-0.010046,0.019815,0.001856,-0.019427,0.004054,0.006913,0.004002,0.008735,0.000 247,0.003821,0.016147,0.008622
Irish:Irish60,0.130897,0.139128,0.061848,0.040052, 0.034776,0.019243,0.00235,0.000231,-0.003068,0.001822,-0.008769,0.003597,-0.009217,-0.011285,0.026058,0.007823,-0.007562,0.001647,0.001257,0.005753,0.007861,0.007 914,0.005793,0.019882,-0.010658
Irish:Irish61,0.140002,0.139128,0.06675,0.048127,0 .037853,0.013387,-0.001175,0.010846,-0.000409,0.002734,-0.005521,-0.001049,-0.00892,-0.01445,0.029723,0.005569,-0.006258,0.000507,-0.000503,-0.001626,0.000374,-0.004822,0.001109,0.024341,0.002634
Irish:Irish62,0.134311,0.136081,0.058454,0.049419, 0.038161,0.018128,-0.00094,0.008307,-0.001636,0.004191,-0.00747,0.007493,-0.015312,-0.021744,0.031894,0.013657,0.007432,-0.006714,0.00817,0.004877,0.011854,0.006925,-0.000863,0.01928,0.002275
Irish:Irish63,0.138864,0.13405,0.062225,0.052972,0 .045547,0.012829,0.004935,0.013615,0.008181,0.0109 34,-0.008444,0.009142,-0.021556,-0.015551,0.027958,0.00411,-0.019297,0.001647,-0.001131,-0.003377,-0.000873,-0.002597,0.000739,0.015785,-0.000479
Irish:Irish64,0.130897,0.136081,0.061848,0.053295, 0.028928,0.02008,0.000235,0.009461,0.004295,0.0038 27,-0.000325,0.007493,-0.012785,-0.009909,0.022937,0.002519,-0.013299,0.00114,-0.006662,0.001626,-0.001123,-0.006306,-0.004683,0.021328,-0.003113
Irish:Irish65,0.137726,0.14319,0.057322,0.04845,0. 044316,0.021196,0.001645,0.006923,0.003068,0.00583 2,-0.001624,0.004946,-0.015461,-0.020506,0.015879,0.009414,-0.012126,0.003041,0.002011,0.006503,0.00025,-0.004081,-0.002465,0.018918,0.005508
Irish:Irish7,0.125205,0.136081,0.064488,0.049742,0 .03139,0.018686,-0.00376,-0.000231,0.004704,-0.005649,-0.017213,0.011839,-0.002081,-0.024359,0.02918,-0.007027,-0.021383,-0.005194,-0.004148,0.004252,0.010731,-0.005193,0.005423,0.013496,0.002754
Irish:Irish8,0.138864,0.144205,0.069767,0.05168,0. 041854,0.012271,0.009165,0.009,0.016771,-0.003645,-0.007145,-0.001798,-0.015015,-0.009358,0.026873,0.003315,-0.014733,-0.003927,-0.000503,-0.004002,0.002745,0.005317,0.018117,0.010483,-0.007784
Irish:Irish9,0.140002,0.127957,0.056568,0.049419,0 .043085,0.01757,0.013866,0.007846,-0.003272,-0.000729,-0.001461,0.014087,-0.030029,-0.007019,0.019408,0.000928,-0.008866,0.003801,0.002137,0.003126,0.001373,-0.00779,-0.007765,0.011206,-0.007424
And English?
English:England10,0.141141,0.138112,0.064111,0.050 065,0.031083,0.014502,0.006815,0.004154,0,0.005832 ,0.002111,0.010641,-0.017096,-0.017753,0.013572,0.006232,0.004303,0.008488,-0.006411,0.003001,0.009982,0.004575,0.002465,0.007 471,0.005868
English:England11,0.138864,0.13405,0.052043,0.0507 11,0.035699,0.022032,0.0094,-0.000923,-0.000818,0.002369,-0.004709,0.002248,-0.011447,-0.007569,0.016965,0.007823,-0.008605,0.00266,0.006034,0.007754,0.012353,0.0046 99,-0.002095,0.017593,-0.003712
English:England12,0.133173,0.140143,0.062225,0.035 853,0.035699,0.016733,0.003525,0.010384,0.007567,0 .004556,-0.003085,0.007194,-0.013379,-0.016515,0.028773,-0.000133,-0.003912,0.004054,-0.005028,0.001876,0.00574,-0.002968,-0.01023,0.01458,-0.003952
English:England13,0.134311,0.133034,0.062225,0.038 76,0.042469,0.012271,0,0.000231,0.007772,0.004374,-0.005684,0.005845,-0.008325,-0.007432,0.026873,-0.000928,-0.022035,0.004054,0.004902,0.013131,0.009858,0.005 935,-0.006409,0.012532,0.010059
English:England14,0.12862,0.138112,0.063356,0.0474 81,0.040315,0.010319,0.0094,0.008077,-0.00225,0.002005,0.000325,0.002997,-0.011744,0.002202,0.012758,-0.00053,-0.019166,0.000127,0.012193,0.005002,0.007362,0.005 935,-0.007641,0.014339,-0.000239
English:England15,0.135449,0.139128,0.06939,0.0465 12,0.038161,0.015339,0.004935,0.005538,0.003068,0. 010023,-0.008444,0.008243,-0.012636,-0.019267,0.015472,0.014187,-0.004172,0.008488,-0.000628,0.005002,0.000624,0.011376,-0.002835,0.020485,0.002754
English:England7,0.126344,0.135065,0.058454,0.0432 82,0.030467,0.026216,0.00658,0.006923,0.01084,0.00 4738,-0.004872,0.008393,-0.012339,-0.010872,0.025244,-0.002917,-0.021774,0.008108,0.006159,0,0.008984,0.00136,-0.009613,0.019039,0.000479
English:England8,0.132035,0.137096,0.059962,0.0503 88,0.035699,0.02008,0.00611,0.009,0.002863,0.01257 4,-0.01429,0.001798,-0.020664,-0.012524,0.022122,0.001193,-0.008084,0.005321,0.005154,0.016508,0.004991,-0.005688,-0.004067,0.016026,-0.000239
English:England9,0.135449,0.13405,0.056568,0.03811 4,0.0397,0.013945,0.00188,0.006692,0.007567,0.0089 3,-0.014128,0.007493,-0.010852,-0.017891,0.020358,0.01127,0.005867,-0.002027,0.00352,0.001,0.006489,-0.003215,-0.010846,0.023256,-0.002275
English:English1,0.134311,0.138112,0.062979,0.0494 19,0.042469,0.011156,0.00282,0.005307,0.007772,0.0 06196,0.000487,0.012289,-0.011001,-0.004954,0.019137,-0.012729,-0.018123,0.006334,0.003017,-0.001376,0.003369,0.007296,0.000986,0.010483,0.002 275
English:English2,0.126344,0.139128,0.061848,0.0520 03,0.044316,0.023427,0.010575,0.005538,0.006749,-0.001276,-0.000812,0.000749,-0.013082,-0.014726,0.017915,0.002652,-0.007432,0.003421,0.003142,0.004752,0.002995,0.002 102,0.002835,0.015665,-0.000599
English:English3,0.129758,0.144205,0.065242,0.0465 12,0.037238,0.020638,0.003525,0.006231,0.006136,0. 007289,-0.006008,0.005695,-0.008622,0.003028,0.015472,0.001061,-0.020601,0.006334,0.012444,0.003377,0.003244,0.001 36,0.000493,0.010965,0.002994
English:English4,0.133173,0.133034,0.058077,0.0352 07,0.036007,0.006414,0.00376,0.007384,0.007976,0.0 05649,-0.009256,0.005995,-0.012785,-0.007569,0.022122,0.007425,-0.002608,0.002407,0.002011,-0.004752,0.001622,0.004946,-0.005176,0.016629,-0.006826
English:English5,0.12862,0.139128,0.065996,0.03940 6,0.044008,0.0251,-0.002585,0.003231,0.00859,0.003827,-0.008607,0.006294,-0.016353,-0.015827,0.028366,0.008751,-0.005867,0.006208,0.005531,-0.002001,0.006738,0.005193,-0.000493,0.013496,0.000599
English:English6,0.127482,0.135065,0.062979,0.0490 96,0.048932,0.018407,0.004935,0.006923,0.003068,0. 009841,-0.003897,0.002847,-0.015461,-0.020919,0.025787,0.015513,-0.004563,0.003294,-0.004022,0.00075,0.00836,0.000742,-0.005793,0.00735,-0.001676
English:HG01789,0.12862,0.13405,0.066373,0.043928, 0.043085,0.014223,0.00517,0.003923,0.007363,0.0034 62,-0.001461,0.003897,-0.010406,-0.005918,0.02538,0.000796,-0.026077,0.003674,0.007919,-0.004752,0.003494,0.004946,-0.007272,0.004579,0.001197
English:HG01790,0.132035,0.136081,0.059585,0.03779 1,0.040623,0.013945,0.00611,0.008307,-0.000409,0.01057,-0.000325,0.002548,-0.006392,-0.007707,0.010993,0.004906,-0.005215,0.001647,0.001885,0.001251,0.000749,0.002 597,0.001725,0.007591,-0.003832
English:HG01791,0.12862,0.140143,0.056191,0.039406 ,0.03693,0.01506,0.0047,0.005077,0.008181,0.006014 ,-0.005846,0.004796,-0.014569,-0.01101,0.020494,0.007292,-0.002868,0.00228,0.008422,0.005878,0.008235,0.0075 43,0.0053,0.019762,-0.00455
English:HG02215,0.130897,0.136081,0.066373,0.04231 3,0.042469,0.018407,0.00705,0.007154,0.007976,0.00 0911,-0.002111,0.006744,-0.012042,-0.003441,0.023887,-0.004375,-0.026077,0.002914,0.003771,-0.000125,0.007612,0.005935,-0.003451,0.010242,0.002275
English_Cornwall:HG00160,0.132035,0.139128,0.06335 6,0.047481,0.044008,0.01757,0.004935,0.003461,0.00 8385,0.00492,-0.003573,0.002248,-0.010258,-0.011285,0.02348,0.004773,-0.00665,0.00266,0.007416,0.010005,0.001996,0.00061 8,0.001109,0.015424,-0.002036
English_Cornwall:HG00232,0.130897,0.145221,0.05807 7,0.049096,0.037238,0.012271,-0.000235,0.007154,0.001227,0.003462,-0.002436,0.006744,-0.013974,-0.009771,0.020358,-0.006232,-0.020731,0.00114,0.008296,0.005503,0.004991,0.0069 25,-0.000616,0.01458,0.005389
English_Cornwall:HG00235,0.12862,0.141159,0.054682 ,0.037145,0.047086,0.02259,0.006345,0.003461,0.005 113,0.007107,-0.005521,0.009591,-0.015015,-0.005505,0.019679,-0.001856,-0.017602,0.003167,0.000251,-0.002001,0.008984,0.004822,-0.000863,0.001325,-0.002634
English_Cornwall:HG00236,0.124067,0.142174,0.06373 3,0.037468,0.043393,0.011992,0.007285,0.005769,0.0 10431,0.008018,-0.007145,0.008992,-0.011447,-0.012937,0.015608,0.009281,-0.005737,0.003674,0.001383,0.009254,0.007986,0.001 484,-0.006655,0.013737,0.003832
English_Cornwall:HG00239,0.132035,0.144205,0.05656 8,0.040698,0.041546,0.014781,0.003525,0.010384,0.0 06136,0.002734,-0.005521,0.005545,-0.013825,-0.00523,0.018051,-0.007292,-0.020731,0.005954,0.006913,0.001626,0.000873,0.003 957,-0.001232,0.006989,-0.001557
English_Cornwall:HG00243,0.132035,0.138112,0.06260 2,0.045543,0.033545,0.019522,0.00282,0.004384,0.00 8795,0.004374,-0.003897,0.004946,-0.013379,-0.012799,0.024701,0.008486,-0.007171,0.002914,-0.000126,0.005378,0.006489,0.001978,-0.003574,0.019159,0.002275
English_Cornwall:HG00249,0.130897,0.135065,0.06561 9,0.04845,0.048317,0.013945,0.00094,0.007384,0.006 136,0.00893,-0.006658,0.002997,-0.011447,-0.012111,0.021444,0.018165,0.003781,-0.003927,-0.002011,0.009254,0.003494,0.009027,0.002958,0.020 123,0.004071
English_Cornwall:HG00252,0.130897,0.135065,0.06637 3,0.039083,0.035699,0.02008,0.00564,0.009923,0.008 59,0.010752,-0.005196,0.005095,-0.015015,-0.009358,0.02158,-0.003182,-0.023469,0.003674,0.008045,-0.006503,0.006863,0.002226,-0.00037,0.016749,-0.002874
English_Cornwall:HG00253,0.132035,0.142174,0.06411 1,0.044897,0.048317,0.013108,0.005405,0.003692,0.0 045,0.010387,-0.001786,0.005545,-0.016353,-0.009221,0.025787,-0.007292,-0.025686,-0.002154,0.005028,0.001751,0.007487,0.005441,0.000 123,0.020967,-0.000718
English_Cornwall:HG00255,0.127482,0.136081,0.06147 1,0.039083,0.039084,0.020359,0.0047,0.007154,0.005 522,0.004738,-0.00747,0.009891,-0.011298,-0.014313,0.015744,0.00769,-0.00326,0.005321,0.003268,0.006378,0.005241,0.0030 91,-0.002711,0.013134,0.005269
English_Cornwall:HG00259,0.129758,0.14319,0.058454 ,0.044251,0.042469,0.016733,0.00329,0.009461,0.003 681,0.004191,-0.00341,0.006744,-0.016353,-0.009771,0.023344,0.007823,-0.009127,0.000633,0.004777,0.001876,0.003868,0.003 833,0.003204,0.011568,-0.000718
English_Cornwall:HG00261,0.134311,0.138112,0.05694 5,0.041667,0.041238,0.012271,0.002115,0.009,0.0087 95,0.010205,-0.004709,0.007793,-0.013974,-0.006055,0.017779,0.001856,-0.021774,-0.000127,0.000503,-0.003502,0.001123,0.007419,0.000493,0.020485,-0.006227
English_Cornwall:HG00264,0.127482,0.137096,0.06561 9,0.046512,0.042777,0.018128,-0.002115,0.001846,0.006954,0.010752,-0.002923,0.008093,-0.016353,-0.014863,0.022258,0.009016,-0.004694,0.004561,0.005154,0.003126,0.003119,-0.000495,-0.001725,0.012532,0.0049
Oh, now I am more relaxed, they have more Levantine tham my mother Berber.:thumb001:
I am not saying that Irish or English have in average that real Levantine ancestry, is just to show that knowing how to choose the references, it is possible to obtain higher or lower percentages of components that we want to show, even with acceptable distances.
And that percentage can be increased, if we choose individual samples as sources obviously.
With these I get this.
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 0.8245% / 0.00824482
100.0 Irish
Just using the first model.
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 2.3124% / 0.02312407
98.4 Norwegian
1.6 Levantine
Grace O'Malley
03-29-2021, 02:11 AM
"Y-DNA haplogroups carried by members of "The Wales Cymru DNA Project" include E1b1a1 (E-L117), E1b1a1a1b1a (E-V13), E1b1a1b2a1a (E-M34), G1a1a1, G2a1, I1 (I-M253), I1d1a1a, I2c2a (I-M223, I-P37, etc.), J1, J2, R1a1a (R-M512, R-M198, R-M173, R-Z280), R1b1a (R-M269, R-M173, R-L21), and R1b1a1a1a1a (R-P312), among others. Mitochondrial DNA haplogroups carried by members include H, H3c2b, H1au1a, H10e, H6a1b2, H7b3, I, J, K1b2a2, K2a, T2, U3, U5, and others."
So are Welshies and Irish Blacks now? Both have E1b1a1. If you took the time to go through ethnic projects and surname projects you would have better insight than just google results.
I've never heard of Irish having E1b. If it is there is very small and not in any ancient samples.
https://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-E1b1b.jpg
The rest of the maps.
https://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-E-V13.gif
https://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-E-M81.gif
https://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-E-M123.gif
Grace O'Malley
03-29-2021, 03:00 AM
And just let´s see something curious that we can get if we know how to choose the right references,an small improvised model made with Levantine, Berber and Yoruban individual samples used by Nass with just one I add (Norwegian average, if I select 2 individual samples I can change somewhat results), to "show" if Irish individual samples have Levantine, Yoruban or Berber ancestry.
Norwegian,0.1338234,0.1279567,0.0679357,0.0534334, 0.0386443,0.0210366,0.0041964,0.0062964,0.0057267, 0.0003906,-0.0037349,0.0036823,-0.007518,-0.011698,0.0210754,0.0093949,-0.0054203,0.0026061,0.0006823,0.0007503,0.005633,0 .0055643,0.0042784,0.0177304,0.0010947
Levantine:149532,0.083091,0.152329,-0.060716,-0.089471,-0.011387,-0.034582,-0.002585,-0.011769,0.018612,0.006196,0.002923,-0.011989,0.025272,0.012799,-0.006107,0.007425,-0.005867,0.00152,0.007416,0.000875,-0.001373,0.005564,-0.003204,-0.002169,0.002634
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English_Cornwall:HG00239,0.132035,0.144205,0.05656 8,0.040698,0.041546,0.014781,0.003525,0.010384,0.0 06136,0.002734,-0.005521,0.005545,-0.013825,-0.00523,0.018051,-0.007292,-0.020731,0.005954,0.006913,0.001626,0.000873,0.003 957,-0.001232,0.006989,-0.001557
English_Cornwall:HG00243,0.132035,0.138112,0.06260 2,0.045543,0.033545,0.019522,0.00282,0.004384,0.00 8795,0.004374,-0.003897,0.004946,-0.013379,-0.012799,0.024701,0.008486,-0.007171,0.002914,-0.000126,0.005378,0.006489,0.001978,-0.003574,0.019159,0.002275
English_Cornwall:HG00249,0.130897,0.135065,0.06561 9,0.04845,0.048317,0.013945,0.00094,0.007384,0.006 136,0.00893,-0.006658,0.002997,-0.011447,-0.012111,0.021444,0.018165,0.003781,-0.003927,-0.002011,0.009254,0.003494,0.009027,0.002958,0.020 123,0.004071
English_Cornwall:HG00252,0.130897,0.135065,0.06637 3,0.039083,0.035699,0.02008,0.00564,0.009923,0.008 59,0.010752,-0.005196,0.005095,-0.015015,-0.009358,0.02158,-0.003182,-0.023469,0.003674,0.008045,-0.006503,0.006863,0.002226,-0.00037,0.016749,-0.002874
English_Cornwall:HG00253,0.132035,0.142174,0.06411 1,0.044897,0.048317,0.013108,0.005405,0.003692,0.0 045,0.010387,-0.001786,0.005545,-0.016353,-0.009221,0.025787,-0.007292,-0.025686,-0.002154,0.005028,0.001751,0.007487,0.005441,0.000 123,0.020967,-0.000718
English_Cornwall:HG00255,0.127482,0.136081,0.06147 1,0.039083,0.039084,0.020359,0.0047,0.007154,0.005 522,0.004738,-0.00747,0.009891,-0.011298,-0.014313,0.015744,0.00769,-0.00326,0.005321,0.003268,0.006378,0.005241,0.0030 91,-0.002711,0.013134,0.005269
English_Cornwall:HG00259,0.129758,0.14319,0.058454 ,0.044251,0.042469,0.016733,0.00329,0.009461,0.003 681,0.004191,-0.00341,0.006744,-0.016353,-0.009771,0.023344,0.007823,-0.009127,0.000633,0.004777,0.001876,0.003868,0.003 833,0.003204,0.011568,-0.000718
English_Cornwall:HG00261,0.134311,0.138112,0.05694 5,0.041667,0.041238,0.012271,0.002115,0.009,0.0087 95,0.010205,-0.004709,0.007793,-0.013974,-0.006055,0.017779,0.001856,-0.021774,-0.000127,0.000503,-0.003502,0.001123,0.007419,0.000493,0.020485,-0.006227
English_Cornwall:HG00264,0.127482,0.137096,0.06561 9,0.046512,0.042777,0.018128,-0.002115,0.001846,0.006954,0.010752,-0.002923,0.008093,-0.016353,-0.014863,0.022258,0.009016,-0.004694,0.004561,0.005154,0.003126,0.003119,-0.000495,-0.001725,0.012532,0.0049
Oh, now I am more relaxed, they have more Levantine tham my mother Berber.:thumb001:
I am not saying that Irish or English have in average that real Levantine ancestry, is just to show that knowing how to choose the references, it is possible to obtain higher or lower percentages of components that we want to show, even with acceptable distances.
And that percentage can be increased, if we choose individual samples as sources obviously.
Just out of interest I wanted to see what other populations got using the above model. I know it doesn't mean much but it is interesting to see what happens. Not to be taken seriously. :) It does show more North/South affinity quite well.
Target: Danish
Distance: 1.4386% / 0.01438645
98.0 Norwegian
1.8 Levantine
0.2 Yoruba
Target: Irish
Distance: 1.6163% / 0.01616309
96.8 Norwegian
2.6 Levantine
0.6 Berber
Target: Scottish
Distance: 1.4553% / 0.01455251
95.8 Norwegian
3.4 Levantine
0.8 Berber
Target: English
Distance: 1.7209% / 0.01720931
94.6 Norwegian
5.4 Levantine
Target: Dutch
Distance: 1.1965% / 0.01196501
94.6 Norwegian
4.8 Levantine
0.6 Yoruba
Target: English_Cornwall
Distance: 1.9699% / 0.01969874
94.0 Norwegian
4.2 Levantine
1.8 Berber
Target: Welsh
Distance: 1.6051% / 0.01605076
93.8 Norwegian
5.6 Levantine
0.6 Berber
Target: French_Brittany
Distance: 1.9386% / 0.01938627
91.6 Norwegian
6.2 Levantine
2.2 Berber
Target: Belgian
Distance: 2.0464% / 0.02046382
85.2 Norwegian
12.8 Levantine
2.0 Berber
Target: Basque_French
Distance: 6.7407% / 0.06740660
79.8 Norwegian
13.2 Berber
7.0 Levantine
Target: Spanish_Galicia
Distance: 4.0829% / 0.04082875
67.6 Norwegian
18.6 Berber
13.8 Levantine
Target: Spanish_Andalucia
Distance: 4.4416% / 0.04441627
65.4 Norwegian
18.0 Berber
16.6 Levantine
Target: Italian_Lombardy
Distance: 4.6697% / 0.04669660
61.2 Norwegian
36.2 Levantine
2.6 Berber
Target: Italian_Calabria
Distance: 3.8786% / 0.03878614
61.8 Levantine
36.0 Norwegian
2.2 Berber
"Y-DNA haplogroups carried by members of "The Wales Cymru DNA Project" include E1b1a1 (E-L117), E1b1a1a1b1a (E-V13), E1b1a1b2a1a (E-M34), G1a1a1, G2a1, I1 (I-M253), I1d1a1a, I2c2a (I-M223, I-P37, etc.), J1, J2, R1a1a (R-M512, R-M198, R-M173, R-Z280), R1b1a (R-M269, R-M173, R-L21), and R1b1a1a1a1a (R-P312), among others. Mitochondrial DNA haplogroups carried by members include H, H3c2b, H1au1a, H10e, H6a1b2, H7b3, I, J, K1b2a2, K2a, T2, U3, U5, and others."
So are Welshies and Irish Blacks now? Both have E1b1a1. If you took the time to go through ethnic projects and surname projects you would have better insight than just google results.
Paleo, do you not see the irony in accusing me of being doing something sloppy, when it's exactly what you just did? Anyone can join a DNA project. I found the E1b1a guy in that project. His patrilineal origin isn't listed as Welsh. It's unknown. However, let's pretend he listed his as Welsh. You'd then have to run 2 tests on him: autosomal and Big Y. Autosomal will tell you if you have has recent non-white in him and Big Y would tell us where in the E1b1a tree he falls relative to others. There is absolutely nothing in the E1b1a phylogenetic tree or in ancient DNA data to even hint that there was an archaic migration of E1b1a to Europe. Such would be a crazy discovery.
As for the E1b1a guy, it's probably an American who thought his Y was Welsh.
gixajo
03-29-2021, 09:24 AM
Just out of interest I wanted to see what other populations got using the above model. I know it doesn't mean much but it is interesting to see what happens. Not to be taken seriously. :) It does show more North/South affinity quite well.
Target: Danish
Distance: 1.4386% / 0.01438645
98.0 Norwegian
1.8 Levantine
0.2 Yoruba
Target: Irish
Distance: 1.6163% / 0.01616309
96.8 Norwegian
2.6 Levantine
0.6 Berber
Target: Scottish
Distance: 1.4553% / 0.01455251
95.8 Norwegian
3.4 Levantine
0.8 Berber
Target: English
Distance: 1.7209% / 0.01720931
94.6 Norwegian
5.4 Levantine
Target: Dutch
Distance: 1.1965% / 0.01196501
94.6 Norwegian
4.8 Levantine
0.6 Yoruba
Target: English_Cornwall
Distance: 1.9699% / 0.01969874
94.0 Norwegian
4.2 Levantine
1.8 Berber
Target: Welsh
Distance: 1.6051% / 0.01605076
93.8 Norwegian
5.6 Levantine
0.6 Berber
Target: French_Brittany
Distance: 1.9386% / 0.01938627
91.6 Norwegian
6.2 Levantine
2.2 Berber
Target: Belgian
Distance: 2.0464% / 0.02046382
85.2 Norwegian
12.8 Levantine
2.0 Berber
But you should take just peoples that get close distances with those sources Grace, if you have a distance more than 4, it´s clear that sources are not accurate to model those peoples:wink.
A model for Italians,Iberians, Greeks or Balkanites with Norwegians, berbers, Yorubas and Levantines is more unfair to them than to Irish.
Grace O'Malley
03-29-2021, 09:29 AM
But you should take just peoples that get close distances with those sources Grace, if you have a distance more than 4, it´s clear that sources are not accurate to model those peoples:wink.
A model for Italians,Iberians, Greeks or Balkanites with Norwegians, berbers, Yorubas and Levantines is more unfair to them than to Irish.
It's your model. :) I wanted to see how it goes for other populations. Of course it isn't accurate but it does show a north/south pull.
gixajo
03-29-2021, 09:35 AM
It's your model. :) I wanted to see how it goes for other populations. Of course it isn't accurate but it does show a north/south pull.
It´s not accurate for anyone, but it´s quite more accurate for Danish (1.4) than for Galicians (4.1).:)
Grace O'Malley
03-29-2021, 09:42 AM
It´s not accurate for anyone, but it´s quite more accurate for Danish (1.4) than for Galicians (4.1).:)
It isn't really accurate for anyone as we know but that's not really the point. Populations have different contributors as well as some similar populations. It's just a model that you made and it was interesting to see what different populations got as you just used Irish and English. I wanted to see how it worked with other populations in the spirit of experimentation. You have to use ancient populations to get more accurate results.
You can contribute to my farmer thread if you like and have any suggestions? :)
Mopi The Dire Wolf
03-29-2021, 09:49 AM
if i supply you with my 23andme and/or ancestry raw data, can you model me ? :thumb001:
gixajo
03-29-2021, 09:50 AM
It isn't really accurate for anyone as we know but that's not really the point. Populations have different contributors as well as some similar populations. It's just a model that you made and it was interesting to see what different populations got as you just used Irish and English. I wanted to see how it worked with other populations in the spirit of experimentation. You have to use ancient populations to get more accurate results.
You can contribute to my farmer thread if you like and have any suggestions? :)
Sorry Grace, British isles people are Levantine, I´ve demonstrated it, and now that the truth has been revealed, don't try to divert attention to hide this fact ;)
I will do later(visit your thread), just now I must go, I usually take a free moment to check the mail in the morning, and by the way take a look at the forum, but I have to continue "doing things" to earn a living or for others to earn it with my work.
gixajo
03-29-2021, 09:51 AM
if i supply you with my 23andme and/or ancestry raw data, can you model me ? :thumb001:
Of course, what do you want to score in your results?;)
gixajo
03-29-2021, 09:52 AM
Bye all, I must go!
Mopi The Dire Wolf
03-29-2021, 09:53 AM
Of course, what do you want to score in your results?;)
just accurate as possible plz
i'll mail them to you later :thumb001:
Grace O'Malley
03-29-2021, 10:03 AM
Sorry Grace, British isles people are Levantine, I´ve demonstrated it, and now that the truth has been revealed, don't try to divert attention to hide this fact ;)
I will do later(visit your thread), just now I must go, I usually take a free moment to check the mail in the morning, and by the way take a look at the forum, but I have to continue "doing things" to earn a living or for others to earn it with my work.
Cheers. Whenever you have the time. Your knowledge is appreciated.
gixajo
03-29-2021, 11:47 AM
just accurate as possible plz
i'll mail them to you later :thumb001:
I´am here just to answer you that you can find many users here or in Anthorgenica that could do it better or just as well as I can do it, grace has better knowledge than me of British isles references, or even Nassbean knows perfectly the whole datasheet.
In Anthrogenica there is a thread just to model individually anyone who post there his coordinates.
It would be much better to post your coordinates there so that several people offer you different options of models. The more people contribute with their point of view, you will get a better vision of what you want to see.
I think that in all this (and basically in all issues), it is better to have the vision of several people than just one.
keep in mind that we are still quite limited by the references we have right now.
That is why I was so happy yesterday that the datasheet of modern populations continues to be renewed.
gixajo
03-29-2021, 11:51 AM
Cheers. Whenever you have the time. Your knowledge is appreciated.
I don't know more about all this than you, or about many people here.:)
mitalit
03-29-2021, 05:34 PM
All of them are scaled samples.
This is perfect, thanks for sharing!
Distance to: Xabier_scaled
0.02534639 Spanish_Cantabria:4170
Distance to: Mom_scaled
0.03022384 Spanish_Cantabria:2200
Distance to: Dad_scaled
0.02153518 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:2721
Distance to: Xabier_scaled
0.02534639 Spanish_Cantabria:4170
0.02873710 Spanish_Cantabria:2200
0.03040789 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:2721
0.03245038 Spanish_Cantabria:2193
0.03455177 French_Hautes-Pyrenees_Bigorre:1171
0.03661091 Spanish_Cantabria:2227
0.03665905 Spanish_La_Rioja:1459
0.03679804 Spanish_Aragon_North:1892
0.03681305 French_Pyrenees-Atlantiques_Bearn:1800
0.03725038 Spanish_Biscay_West:7153
0.03784097 Spanish_Biscay_West:7344
0.03802334 Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:1266
0.03841994 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:2732
0.03884714 Spanish_La_Rioja:1346
0.03921641 French_Hautes-Pyrenees_Bigorre:1112
0.03925242 Spanish_Biscay_West:7149
0.03941212 French_Pyrenees-Atlantiques_Bearn:2595
0.03949037 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:2731
0.03952584 Spanish_Biscay_West:7329
0.03956097 Spanish_Cantabria:2131
0.03957319 Spanish_Aragon_North:9817
0.03982324 Spanish_Cantabria:2119
0.04015669 Spanish_La_Rioja:1815
0.04085074 Spanish_Aragon_North:2291
0.04091178 Spanish_La_Rioja:1142
Distance to: Mom_scaled
0.03022384 Spanish_Cantabria:2200
0.03212676 Spanish_Cantabria:2227
0.03349367 Spanish_La_Rioja:1459
0.03427508 Spanish_La_Rioja:1346
0.03478716 Spanish_Aragon_North:2276
0.03639273 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:2721
0.03646119 Spanish_Cantabria:2131
0.03676753 Spanish_Cantabria:2193
0.03792691 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:2732
0.03815825 Spanish_Cantabria:4146
0.03851799 Spanish_Biscay_West:7344
0.03875104 Spanish_La_Rioja:1815
0.03876823 Spanish_Biscay_West:7153
0.03913845 Spanish_La_Rioja:1142
0.03931635 French_Pyrenees-Atlantiques_Bearn:1698
0.03936315 Spanish_Cantabria:2119
0.03988274 Spanish_Cantabria:4156
0.04033663 Spanish_Aragon_North:2291
0.04045432 Spanish_Biscay_West:6447
0.04131412 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:HG01500:2670
0.04184957 Spanish_La_Rioja:1567
0.04189056 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:3194
0.04239023 Spanish_Biscay_West:7149
0.04267890 Spanish_Biscay_West:5619
0.04280034 French_Hautes-Pyrenees_Bigorre:1118
Distance to: Dad_scaled
0.02153518 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:2721
0.02427785 Spanish_Cantabria:2200
0.02530791 Spanish_Cantabria:2227
0.02722220 Spanish_La_Rioja:1459
0.02773799 Spanish_Cantabria:2131
0.02783921 French_Pyrenees-Atlantiques_Bearn:1800
0.02850342 Spanish_Cantabria:2193
0.02856688 Spanish_Biscay_West:7344
0.02890947 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:2671
0.02925702 Spanish_Cantabria:4170
0.02948546 Spanish_Biscay_West:7329
0.02992019 French_Hautes-Pyrenees_Bigorre:1171
0.03008298 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:2732
0.03039954 Spanish_Aragon_North:9817
0.03052553 Spanish_Aragon_North:1892
0.03059606 French_Pyrenees-Atlantiques_Bearn:1704
0.03063823 Spanish_La_Rioja:1142
0.03084072 French_Hautes-Pyrenees_Bigorre:1112
0.03090517 Spanish_La_Rioja:1571
0.03103762 Spanish_La_Rioja:1346
0.03110156 Spanish_Cantabria:2119
0.03118451 Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:1266
0.03160980 Spanish_Cantabria:4156
0.03166735 Spanish_Aragon_North:2342
0.03233806 French_Hautes-Pyrenees_Bigorre:3057
Scandal
03-29-2021, 05:36 PM
In Anthrogenica there is a thread just to model individually anyone who post there his coordinates.
Which calculator?
Damião de Góis
03-29-2021, 06:17 PM
Yeah there is a shortage of spanish samples on G25. These ones come in handy.
Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 2.4867% / 0.02486677
60.2 Spanish_Cantabria
24.6 Spanish_La_Rioja
12.2 Spanish_Biscay_West
3.0 Spanish_Aragon_North
This is perfect, thanks for sharing!
Distance to: Xabier_scaled
0.02534639 Spanish_Cantabria:4170
Distance to: Mom_scaled
0.03022384 Spanish_Cantabria:2200
Distance to: Dad_scaled
0.02153518 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:2721
Distance to: Xabier_scaled
0.02534639 Spanish_Cantabria:4170
0.02873710 Spanish_Cantabria:2200
0.03040789 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:2721
0.03245038 Spanish_Cantabria:2193
0.03455177 French_Hautes-Pyrenees_Bigorre:1171
0.03661091 Spanish_Cantabria:2227
0.03665905 Spanish_La_Rioja:1459
0.03679804 Spanish_Aragon_North:1892
0.03681305 French_Pyrenees-Atlantiques_Bearn:1800
0.03725038 Spanish_Biscay_West:7153
0.03784097 Spanish_Biscay_West:7344
0.03802334 Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:1266
0.03841994 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:2732
0.03884714 Spanish_La_Rioja:1346
0.03921641 French_Hautes-Pyrenees_Bigorre:1112
0.03925242 Spanish_Biscay_West:7149
0.03941212 French_Pyrenees-Atlantiques_Bearn:2595
0.03949037 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:2731
0.03952584 Spanish_Biscay_West:7329
0.03956097 Spanish_Cantabria:2131
0.03957319 Spanish_Aragon_North:9817
0.03982324 Spanish_Cantabria:2119
0.04015669 Spanish_La_Rioja:1815
0.04085074 Spanish_Aragon_North:2291
0.04091178 Spanish_La_Rioja:1142
Distance to: Mom_scaled
0.03022384 Spanish_Cantabria:2200
0.03212676 Spanish_Cantabria:2227
0.03349367 Spanish_La_Rioja:1459
0.03427508 Spanish_La_Rioja:1346
0.03478716 Spanish_Aragon_North:2276
0.03639273 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:2721
0.03646119 Spanish_Cantabria:2131
0.03676753 Spanish_Cantabria:2193
0.03792691 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:2732
0.03815825 Spanish_Cantabria:4146
0.03851799 Spanish_Biscay_West:7344
0.03875104 Spanish_La_Rioja:1815
0.03876823 Spanish_Biscay_West:7153
0.03913845 Spanish_La_Rioja:1142
0.03931635 French_Pyrenees-Atlantiques_Bearn:1698
0.03936315 Spanish_Cantabria:2119
0.03988274 Spanish_Cantabria:4156
0.04033663 Spanish_Aragon_North:2291
0.04045432 Spanish_Biscay_West:6447
0.04131412 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:HG01500:2670
0.04184957 Spanish_La_Rioja:1567
0.04189056 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:3194
0.04239023 Spanish_Biscay_West:7149
0.04267890 Spanish_Biscay_West:5619
0.04280034 French_Hautes-Pyrenees_Bigorre:1118
Distance to: Dad_scaled
0.02153518 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:2721
0.02427785 Spanish_Cantabria:2200
0.02530791 Spanish_Cantabria:2227
0.02722220 Spanish_La_Rioja:1459
0.02773799 Spanish_Cantabria:2131
0.02783921 French_Pyrenees-Atlantiques_Bearn:1800
0.02850342 Spanish_Cantabria:2193
0.02856688 Spanish_Biscay_West:7344
0.02890947 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:2671
0.02925702 Spanish_Cantabria:4170
0.02948546 Spanish_Biscay_West:7329
0.02992019 French_Hautes-Pyrenees_Bigorre:1171
0.03008298 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:2732
0.03039954 Spanish_Aragon_North:9817
0.03052553 Spanish_Aragon_North:1892
0.03059606 French_Pyrenees-Atlantiques_Bearn:1704
0.03063823 Spanish_La_Rioja:1142
0.03084072 French_Hautes-Pyrenees_Bigorre:1112
0.03090517 Spanish_La_Rioja:1571
0.03103762 Spanish_La_Rioja:1346
0.03110156 Spanish_Cantabria:2119
0.03118451 Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:1266
0.03160980 Spanish_Cantabria:4156
0.03166735 Spanish_Aragon_North:2342
0.03233806 French_Hautes-Pyrenees_Bigorre:3057
You're welcome cousin!
Rafael Passoni
03-29-2021, 09:18 PM
They analyse HLA genes too:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11260506/
Interesting.
Cernunnos
03-29-2021, 09:27 PM
Target: Cernunnos_scaled
Distance: 1.5016% / 0.01501648
55.6 Spanish_Cantabria
19.8 Spanish_Biscay_West
10.6 Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West
7.6 Spanish_Aragon_North
4.6 Spanish_La_Rioja
1.8 Basque_French_Labourd
Distance to: Cernunnos_scaled
0.02472577 Spanish_Biscay_West:7344
0.02525827 Spanish_Cantabria:2200
0.02643668 Spanish_La_Rioja:1142
0.02718372 Spanish_Biscay_West:7153
0.02722633 Spanish_Cantabria:2193
0.02825885 Spanish_La_Rioja:1815
0.03011127 Spanish_La_Rioja:1459
0.03114712 Spanish_La_Rioja:1567
0.03152670 Spanish_Cantabria:2119
0.03157926 Spanish_Biscay_West:6447
0.03162989 Spanish_Cantabria:2133
0.03188672 Spanish_Cantabria:4146
0.03197392 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_Burgos_North:2721
0.03246995 Spanish_Cantabria:4170
0.03255845 Spanish_Aragon_North:9806
0.03275241 Spanish_Cantabria:2227
0.03278378 Spanish_Cantabria:4156
0.03328927 French_Pyrenees-Atlantiques_Bearn:1698
0.03357655 French_Hautes-Pyrenees_Bigorre:1112
0.03370461 Spanish_Biscay_West:7149
0.03447090 Spanish_Aragon_North:1392
0.03484482 Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:1918
0.03489313 Basque_Spanish_Navarra_Central-West:2368
0.03527358 Spanish_Aragon_North:2342
0.03549717 Spanish_Biscay_West:7323
Gota_type_
03-30-2021, 11:11 AM
I have not read the thread but I wonder if those SAME studies have been focused just in Spain?? Or if they were applied to other European nationalities the result would be quite similar??
Also, can anyone tell me WHEN in the past there were subsaharan africans in Spain until the point that give Spaniards a certain % of DNA? To ALL Spaniards? If right it must have been an extreme old even (like in the Neolithic) and in the neolithic people did not move much (they did not have cars), so they stayed in the same área. So, how northern Spaniards got that SSA?? There has never been an even in which southern Spaniards emmigrated en masa till the North.
So, can any pinpoint us to any historical event or any archaeological site in ANY área of Spain that is related with subsaharan africans??
Because the 1-2% muslims that were in the half south of Spain during Al-Andalus DID NOT HAVE subsaharan blood since they have not yet started the enslaving of blacks, which was posterior.
And I guess blacks did not have the knowledge to change continent in boats from Africa to Europe in the Neolithic (maybe Paleolithic??) since even today they don´t know how to swim and dont know geography and don´t know how to navigate outside of rivers (in most cases). And if this was right, how many hundred of thousands boats came to Spain in the neolithic from subsaharan Africa?? and why did they stop in the Pirineos and did not go to France?? They were selective and already knew the political national borders that will appear some thousands years later, I guess.
If the hypothesis is that the SSA came with the moros, why the SSA does not peak in Galicia since Galicia has the supossed highest """NorthAfrican""" rate in Spain. This is also funny since there were ZERO muslims during AlAndalus in Galicia. ZERO means ZERO. There was just a small garrison outside of Galicia but this lasted a few years. But in Galicia?? ZERO. Just 1-2 raids in which they took some slaves and concubines to be sold in Cordoba, but nothing else, no settlements.
People still don´t get that ALL world populations started somewhere in the horn of Africa or the Middle East, so there are basal components. This does not mean BLACK DNA, but blacks also descend from the horn of Africa, so in certain populations the basal DNA will appear more than in others, but retards believe that this has to be with an historical event in which black africans came to Spain in masa since we were exterminated by the moros for 3500000 years.
People is often confused with Spain since we have a certain amount of our population (a 8-10% maybe) that are too Med looking (some even semitic) and they start imagining: "moros, SSA DNA from Roman times, phoenicians" or whatever, but they don´t get the idea that 90% of us look far from semitic and we are totally European by looks and by genes. It is even funny since millions of us are fair and we have to put up with stupidities of people that don´t know our HIstory or that want to project their stupidities and ignorance in us. There are woggish people all over Europe, there are swarthy people all over Europe, but hey, they just focus in Spain and they also forget the many millions of us that look panEuropean, and the many millions that looking Med they still look totally EuroMed and 100% European.
samario
04-24-2021, 02:16 AM
Absolutely.
Rafael Passoni
04-24-2021, 03:19 AM
I agree 100%. I was shocked when I saw some stupid comments here.
Rafael Passoni
04-24-2021, 07:38 AM
Like this one:
Os portugueses não são vistos como brancos puros pelos demais europeus e é bem questionável a identidade racial do homem português.
I think even in South America such bullshit is widespread.
People here (on TA) once said to me that I can't pass in Italy because I'm too brown... Being Euro descent and brown... I catch up what such people were trying to say... I'm not that fool. This bullshit is too deep rooted in New World mindset, due to Hollywood propaganda. We see it on media everywere. What is their purpose? I realy don't know...
Rafael Passoni
04-24-2021, 08:18 AM
Double.
I have not read the thread...
...essay of cope...
Cristiano viejo
04-24-2021, 02:32 PM
Absolutely.
We are not Colombians, sorry.
Defcon2
04-26-2021, 12:31 PM
So how much black mix do I have? some results.
Gedrosia K3:
Population
E_Eurasian 1.51 Pct
SSA 3.14 Pct
W_Eurasian 95.35 Pct
Dodecad World 9:
Population
Amerindian -
East_Asian 0.18 Pct
African 3.12 Pct
Atlantic_Baltic 60.63 Pct
Australasian 0.45 Pct
Siberian -
Caucasus_Gedrosia 6.36 Pct
Southern 27.27 Pct
South_Asian 1.98 Pct
G25:
Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 4.8542% / 0.04854209
55.4 TUR_Barcin_N
29.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.8 WHG
4.6 MAR_Taforalt
1.2 Yoruba
Taforalt 4.6 : 3 = 1.53 + 1.2 = 2.73
Dodecad K12b:
Population
Gedrosia 4.76 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 5.38 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 48.68 Pct
North_European 22.14 Pct
South_Asian 2.11 Pct
East_African 1 Pct
Southwest_Asian 4.14 Pct
East_Asian 0.15 Pct
Caucasus 9.99 Pct
Sub_Saharan 1.66 Pct
(Assuming East African is mulatto)
NW_African 5.38 : 3 = 1.79 + 0.5 + 1.66 = 3.95
Correction: 2.66
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/African_Pigmies_CNE-v1-p58-B.jpg/800px-African_Pigmies_CNE-v1-p58-B.jpg
Dodecad K12b:
Population
Gedrosia 4.76 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 5.38 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 48.68 Pct
North_European 22.14 Pct
South_Asian 2.11 Pct
East_African 1 Pct
Southwest_Asian 4.14 Pct
East_Asian 0.15 Pct
Caucasus 9.99 Pct
Sub_Saharan 1.66 Pct
(Assuming East African is mulatto)
NW_African 5.38 : 3 = 1.79 + 0.5 + 1.66 = 3.95
The East African here is not mulatto, it's majority African. On the other hand, the Northwest_African is majority West Eurasian.
Petalpusher
04-26-2021, 01:48 PM
NW Africa in K12b is based on modern Mozabites with an integral peak at 98.5%, so that's as much as they get. Should be less than Taforalt though, which is at least 1/3. (This well predates the slave trade)
About 3% overall is likely the upper limit but not unheard of in SW Iberia, where the IBD peaks as well.
Defcon2
04-26-2021, 02:31 PM
NW Africa in K12b is based on modern Mozabites with an integral peak at 98.5%, so that's as much as they get. Should be less than Taforalt though, which is at least 1/3. (This well predates the slave trade)
About 3% overall is likely the upper limit but not unheard of in SW Iberia, where the IBD peaks as well.
What would be the reference calculator for the old components? I thought I read that it was Eurogenes K8 but I can't find it.
Petalpusher
04-26-2021, 02:43 PM
What would be the reference calculator for the old components? I thought I read that it was Eurogenes K8 but I can't find it.
It's not available publicly, maybe can ask Davidski.
So how much black mix do I have? some results.
Gedrosia K3:
Population
E_Eurasian 1.51 Pct
SSA 3.14 Pct
W_Eurasian 95.35 Pct
Dodecad World 9:
Population
Amerindian -
East_Asian 0.18 Pct
African 3.12 Pct
Atlantic_Baltic 60.63 Pct
Australasian 0.45 Pct
Siberian -
Caucasus_Gedrosia 6.36 Pct
Southern 27.27 Pct
South_Asian 1.98 Pct
G25:
Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 4.8542% / 0.04854209
55.4 TUR_Barcin_N
29.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.8 WHG
4.6 MAR_Taforalt
1.2 Yoruba
Taforalt 4.6 : 3 = 1.53 + 1.2 = 2.73
Dodecad K12b:
Population
Gedrosia 4.76 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 5.38 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 48.68 Pct
North_European 22.14 Pct
South_Asian 2.11 Pct
East_African 1 Pct
Southwest_Asian 4.14 Pct
East_Asian 0.15 Pct
Caucasus 9.99 Pct
Sub_Saharan 1.66 Pct
(Assuming East African is mulatto)
NW_African 5.38 : 3 = 1.79 + 0.5 + 1.66 = 3.95
Correction: 2.66
Assuming the references you used were comprehensive in G25, the Yoruba there is your SSA.
Defcon2
04-26-2021, 06:36 PM
Assuming the references you used were comprehensive in G25, the Yoruba there is your SSA.
But Taforalt is 1/3 SSA, I have to add the percentage, or not?
But Taforalt is 1/3 SSA, I have to add the percentage, or not?
G25 is supposed to be able to distinguish the two. Depends when you draw the historical cutoff.
Adamm
04-26-2021, 07:20 PM
If Taforalt is 1/3 or SSA is a matter of debate, but its pretty sure they were darkies.
Defcon2
04-26-2021, 07:30 PM
G25 is supposed to be able to distinguish the two. Depends when you draw the historical cutoff.
The average Portuguese does not get SSA, it turns out that it does not distinguish them too much:
Target: Portuguese
Distance: 3.0015% / 0.03001471
53.6 TUR_Barcin_N
30.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.8 WHG
5.6 MAR_Taforalt
gixajo
04-26-2021, 07:56 PM
What would be the reference calculator for the old components? I thought I read that it was Eurogenes K8 but I can't find it.
You have a K8 in YourDnaPortal, I don´t know if it is the K8 you talked about.
(El "otro foro" está cerrado por mantenimiento, creo que están cambiando el tapizado de las paredes así que he vuelto aquí)
Defcon2
04-26-2021, 08:09 PM
You have a K8 in YourDnaPortal, I don´t know if it is the K8 you talked about.
(El "otro foro" está cerrado por mantenimiento, creo que están cambiando el tapizado de las paredes así que he vuelto aquí)
No, esta es la tabla de frecuencias del K8 de Eurogenes:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JVGdg2UsN3jYWgaoxAZu-QsAmuCaq3kT7FvqSXwUsAA/pubhtml
No eres capaz de dejar la droga, no? ;)
Petalpusher
04-26-2021, 08:24 PM
The average Portuguese does not get SSA, it turns out that it does not distinguish them too much:
Target: Portuguese
Distance: 3.0015% / 0.03001471
53.6 TUR_Barcin_N
30.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.8 WHG
5.6 MAR_Taforalt
That's extremely difficult to tell in practice, due to the facts that the SSA Taforalt has, is both West and East African in origin, and it turns out all Africans have some level of ancient Eurasian admixture. That part also looks like what is non SSA in Taforalt, and what is basal eurasian in West Eurasians.
It's like trying to be sure if the orange you see on a painting was achieved with just orange, or a combination of yellow and red. Which is how you make orange anyway.
The best way to asses if one has more Taforalt or SSA in proportions, would be IBD, not admixture. As you introduce the element of temporality to the bits and pieces of admixture (how broken down they are = older)
Either way it's pretty evident Taforalt has some significant SSA admixture, you just don't fall as an intermediate between Caucasians and Yoruba randomly, also closest to Afars. That's just not happening for no reason, and the admixture runs confirm this something like a mixture of West and East Africans (dark pink and brown). Maybe, maybe not exactly, Yoruba/Hadza but it's that sort.
https://i.postimg.cc/Gt0J86yx/Capturetssa.jpg
gixajo
04-26-2021, 09:04 PM
No, esta es la tabla de frecuencias del K8 de Eurogenes:
No eres capaz de dejar la droga, no? ;)
El "otro foro" está cerrado por reformas...:)
gixajo
04-26-2021, 09:21 PM
No, esta es la tabla de frecuencias del K8 de Eurogenes:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JVGdg2UsN3jYWgaoxAZu-QsAmuCaq3kT7FvqSXwUsAA/pubhtml
No eres capaz de dejar la droga, no? ;)
En Genoplot tienes un Eurogenes K8, no puedo ver los compoenntes porque tengo 0 créditos...
Edit:vaya tenía cero y me dieron 100 puntos de golpe!
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