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Abriekman
04-07-2021, 06:06 PM
These are my mother results. Before DNA testing known ancestry was known to be 3/8 Polish from Western Ukraine, 2/8 Siberian Russian, 1/8 Southern Russian, 2/8 Bulgarians from southern Ukraine

Eurogenes K13

North_Atlantic 22.96 Pct
Baltic 39.58 Pct
West_Med 10.18 Pct
West_Asian 7.86 Pct
East_Med 14.72 Pct
Red_Sea 0.08 Pct
South_Asian 2.86 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.63 Pct
Oceanian 0.15 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


Target: Parent
Distance: 3.9989% / 3.99894810 | R4P
70.5 Russian_Southwest
20.8 Greek_Northern-Thrace
5.2 Palestinian
3.5 Gypsy_Wallachia

Distance to: Parent
4.34303093 81.60% Russian_Southwest + 18.40% Greek_Cypriot



Dodecad K12b

Gedrosia 6.33 Pct
Siberian 1.27 Pct
Northwest_African 0.38 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 22.66 Pct
North_European 47.18 Pct
South_Asian 1.59 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.73 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 18.85 Pct
Sub_Saharan -


Target: Parent
Distance: 2.4572% / 2.45716045
56.6 Russian_Kursk
22.0 Greek_Thessaloniki
16.5 Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
4.5 Balkan_Gypsy
0.4 Russian_Ryazan


Distance to: Parent
2.47920842 82.40% Polish + 17.60% Greek_Pontus

Leto
04-07-2021, 06:14 PM
Hi Abriekman,

Do you think she may have distant Romani admixture?

Abriekman
04-07-2021, 06:59 PM
Hi Abriekman,

Do you think she may have distant Romani admixture?

Hello, is this South Asian score high for Eastern Europe? Maybe it is related to steppe?

Leto
04-07-2021, 09:00 PM
Hello, is this South Asian score high for Eastern Europe? Maybe it is related to steppe?
It's somewhat high but that doesn't mean it's uncommon though. If it's Gypsy, she should get some signal on the commercial test.

Abriekman
04-07-2021, 09:28 PM
It's somewhat high but that doesn't mean it's uncommon though. If it's Gypsy, she should get some signal on the commercial test.

I am sure it is noise, she does not have any on 23andme

Ion Basescul
04-11-2021, 02:38 PM
These are my mother results. Before DNA testing known ancestry was known to be 3/8 Polish from Western Ukraine, 2/8 Siberian Russian, 1/8 Southern Russian, 2/8 Bulgarians from southern Ukraine

Eurogenes K13

North_Atlantic 22.96 Pct
Baltic 39.58 Pct
West_Med 10.18 Pct
West_Asian 7.86 Pct
East_Med 14.72 Pct
Red_Sea 0.08 Pct
South_Asian 2.86 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.63 Pct
Oceanian 0.15 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -



Target: Abriekman_mom
Distance: 4.3679% / 4.36791632
65.7 Russian_Southwest
34.3 Odessa_Bulgarian



<tbody>
Distance to:
Abriekman_mom


4.36799740
34.20% Odessa_Bulgarian + 65.80% Russian_Southwest


5.14259106
31.60% Odessa_Bulgarian + 68.40% Ukrainian


5.38838689
39.80% Odessa_Bulgarian + 60.20% Russian_Smolensk


6.03013883
42.20% Odessa_Bulgarian + 57.80% Russian_Kostroma


6.07937293
39.80% Odessa_Bulgarian + 60.20% Russian_average


6.58358453
43.20% Odessa_Bulgarian + 56.80% Russian_Kargopol


7.05100615
38.00% Odessa_Bulgarian + 62.00% Polish


7.06660333
46.80% Odessa_Bulgarian + 53.20% Russian_Northern_Dvina


7.53815984
21.20% Odessa_Bulgarian + 78.80% Ukrainian_Galicia


8.29668054
40.00% Odessa_Bulgarian + 60.00% Polish_Masuria


9.44040603
10.00% Russian_Southwest + 90.00% Ukrainian_Galicia


9.48156606
1.40% Ukrainian + 98.60% Ukrainian_Galicia


14.80901313
71.20% Polish + 28.80% Russian_average


14.91573851
90.20% Polish + 9.80% Russian_Kostroma


14.93680312
90.40% Polish + 9.60% Russian_Smolensk


14.93784470
96.20% Polish + 3.80% Russian_Kargopol


15.29998339
36.00% Polish_Masuria + 64.00% Russian_average


15.31572665
38.00% Russian_average + 62.00% Russian_Smolensk


15.36234318
20.60% Polish_Masuria + 79.40% Russian_Smolensk


15.75421107
61.80% Polish_Masuria + 38.20% Russian_Kostroma


15.89006363
69.40% Polish_Masuria + 30.60% Russian_Kargopol


16.24857654
95.60% Polish_Masuria + 4.40% Russian_Northern_Dvina


</tbody>

Abriekman
04-11-2021, 03:17 PM
Target: Abriekman_mom
Distance: 4.3679% / 4.36791632
65.7 Russian_Southwest
34.3 Odessa_Bulgarian


Thanks. What are results of Odessa Bulgarian average?

My mother Bulgarian ancestry seem to be more southern shifted on G25 as well

Target: Abriekman_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.5765% / 0.02576460
74.6 Ukrainian
18.2 Macedonian
5.0 Greek_Cappadocia
2.2 Greek_Trabzon


Cyryl_mom_scaled,0.129758,0.129988,0.045632,0.0452 2,0.029852,0.016455,0.00423,-0.001846,-0.00859,-0.013485,-0.001137,-0.009142,0.017988,0.012386,-0.028637,0.001856,0.00691,0.001014,0.001634,-0.001126,-0.006863,-0.002102,0.002342,0.001325,0.000599

Ion Basescul
04-11-2021, 07:34 PM
Thanks. What are results of Odessa Bulgarian average?

My mother Bulgarian ancestry seem to be more southern shifted on G25 as well

Target: Abriekman_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.5765% / 0.02576460
74.6 Ukrainian
18.2 Macedonian
5.0 Greek_Cappadocia
2.2 Greek_Trabzon


Cyryl_mom_scaled,0.129758,0.129988,0.045632,0.0452 2,0.029852,0.016455,0.00423,-0.001846,-0.00859,-0.013485,-0.001137,-0.009142,0.017988,0.012386,-0.028637,0.001856,0.00691,0.001014,0.001634,-0.001126,-0.006863,-0.002102,0.002342,0.001325,0.000599


It's formed from only one sample. Alternatively, you can approximate with the Gagauz average of 23 people, since they came together from the same places in Bulgaria.



Odessa_Bulgarian,19.87,21.14,16.90,13.54,23.31,2.1 0,1.79,0.80,0.13,0,0.32,0,0.10
Moldova_Gagauzia_UTA,19.35,22.92,18.13,13.07,21.02 ,2.46,0.65,0.37,0.91,0.33,0.51,0.21,0.07

Abriekman
10-15-2021, 10:57 PM
It's formed from only one sample. Alternatively, you can approximate with the Gagauz average of 23 people, since they came together from the same places in Bulgaria.



Odessa_Bulgarian,19.87,21.14,16.90,13.54,23.31,2.1 0,1.79,0.80,0.13,0,0.32,0,0.10
Moldova_Gagauzia_UTA,19.35,22.92,18.13,13.07,21.02 ,2.46,0.65,0.37,0.91,0.33,0.51,0.21,0.07


I didn't notice this sample from Odessa is actually very similiar to my Bulgarian ancestry. Do you have any ideas why East Med - West Asian admixture is so increased in this Odessa Bulgarian sample ?

Target: Odessa_Bulgarian
Distance: 1.6831% / 1.68305214 | R5P
61.3 Bulgaria_Northcentral
22.3 Greek_Northern-Thrace
7.9 Greek_Andros_Island
5.5 Kurd_Iran
3.0 Tunisian_Jewish

Dirdepo
10-15-2021, 11:03 PM
I didn't notice this sample from Odessa is actually very similiar to my Bulgarian ancestry. Do you have any ideas why East Med - West Asian admixture is so increased in this Odessa Bulgarian sample ?

Target: Odessa_Bulgarian
Distance: 1.6831% / 1.68305214 | R5P
61.3 Bulgaria_Northcentral
22.3 Greek_Northern-Thrace
7.9 Greek_Andros_Island
5.5 Kurd_Iran
3.0 Tunisian_Jewish

Maybe he is from Bessarabia?! Do you know basic history? Yes, no, maybe

Abriekman
07-03-2023, 12:08 PM
K15 updated


Distance to: Mom
6.05314301 21.60% Cypriot + 78.40% Kargopol_Russian
6.48610974 79.60% Kargopol_Russian + 20.40% Lebanese_Druze
6.54866509 79.60% Kargopol_Russian + 20.40% Lebanese_Christian
6.55815794 70.60% Erzya + 29.40% Sicily_Enna
6.57758362 25.00% Algerian_Jewish + 75.00% Kargopol_Russian
6.58765795 28.20% Greek_Crete + 71.80% Kargopol_Russian
6.59199832 26.60% Italy_Calabria + 73.40% Kargopol_Russian
6.65520518 34.20% Greek + 65.80% Kargopol_Russian
6.67183720 63.40% Erzya + 36.60% Greek
6.69175612 75.00% Kargopol_Russian + 25.00% Sephardic_Jewish
6.69227532 70.60% Erzya + 29.40% Italy_Campania
6.70999370 25.20% Italian_Jewish + 74.80% Kargopol_Russian
6.74368960 26.80% Sicily_Catania + 73.20% Kargopol_Russian
6.74643893 76.60% Kargopol_Russian + 23.40% Tunisian_Jewish
6.75562572 64.00% Erzya + 36.00% Greek_Peloponese
6.76044742 71.20% Erzya + 28.80% Sicily_Catania
6.76306346 27.40% Italy_Campania + 72.60% Kargopol_Russian
6.76357795 69.60% Erzya + 30.40% Sicily_Syracuse
6.77505422 26.60% Italy_East_Sicily + 73.40% Kargopol_Russian
6.78078191 26.60% Sicily_Messina + 73.40% Kargopol_Russian
6.80615371 33.60% Greek_Peloponese + 66.40% Kargopol_Russian
6.82442237 27.20% Sicily_Agrigento + 72.80% Kargopol_Russian
6.82448117 72.80% Erzya + 27.20% Italian_Jewish
6.83103520 38.60% Albanian-Macedonia + 61.40% Erzya
6.84135655 26.80% Algerian_Jewish + 73.20% Erzya

Abriekman
07-06-2023, 10:56 PM
I have converted my mother's 23andme v5 raw data to 23andme v3 data

Now it has 178,000 SNPs instead of 58,000

Eurogenes K13

Population
North_Atlantic 23.86 Pct
Baltic 38.34 Pct
West_Med 9.86 Pct
West_Asian 7.33 Pct
East_Med 13.34 Pct
Red_Sea 0.74 Pct
South_Asian 2.16 Pct
East_Asian 0.76 Pct
Siberian 0.73 Pct
Amerindian 0.76 Pct
Oceanian 0.75 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 1.39 Pct


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.9% Southwest_Russian + 20.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.71
2 76.2% Southwest_Russian + 23.8% West_Sicilian @ 3.8
3 79.6% Southwest_Russian + 20.4% Italian_Jewish @ 3.83
4 79.8% Southwest_Russian + 20.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.84
5 75.2% Southwest_Russian + 24.8% Ashkenazi @ 3.88
6 80.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 19.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.97
7 77.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 22.8% West_Sicilian @ 4
8 75.7% Southwest_Russian + 24.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.06
9 81.3% Southwest_Russian + 18.7% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.09
10 80.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 19.4% Italian_Jewish @ 4.1
11 76.2% Southwest_Russian + 23.8% Central_Greek @ 4.12
12 78.3% Southwest_Russian + 21.7% South_Italian @ 4.13
13 76.8% Southwest_Russian + 23.2% East_Sicilian @ 4.15
14 82.1% Southwest_Russian + 17.9% Cyprian @ 4.16
15 72.1% Southwest_Russian + 27.9% Greek @ 4.16
16 80.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 19.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.19
17 81.7% Southwest_Russian + 18.3% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.2
18 57% Kargopol_Russian + 43% Bulgarian @ 4.26
19 76.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 23.6% Ashkenazi @ 4.27
20 82.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 17.7% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.38


1.4% SSA?