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викторслава
04-11-2021, 06:10 AM
from the little research i have done i think it may be Afghanistan, but what do you guys think?

Kyp
04-11-2021, 07:18 AM
Tajikistan, although Indo-European would be the better word

Rethel
04-11-2021, 07:31 AM
I also would say Afghanistan.

But among stateless groups, there are better candidates.


Tajikistan, although Indo-European would be the better word

Why?

Stereotypical Tajik is rather dark, and they have at best 38-44% of Indoeuropeans,
comparing to quite fair stereotypical Afghan and over 50-60% of Indoeuropeans.

Avicenna
04-11-2021, 09:02 AM
Afghanistan. But I agree with kyp, better word to use is Indo European . The only tajiks that have as much or higher Indo European than average afghans are pamiris , who live right on the border of Afghanistan/Tajikstan .

Altaylı
04-11-2021, 10:21 AM
Probably Tajiks

CommonSense
04-11-2021, 01:35 PM
Pretty clear that it's Tajikistan if you look at the population averages.

tipirneni
04-11-2021, 03:29 PM
Some Pamiris might have higher ANE which might be close to Europeans than proper Tajiks.

Dr_Maul
04-11-2021, 03:45 PM
Pamir region of Tajikistan/China

Leto
04-11-2021, 04:21 PM
Badakhshan (TJK/AFG) and the Yaghnob valley (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/Yaghnobi_regions.jpg) (Northwestern TJK).

https://www.orphanednation.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSC_0292-768x508.jpg
(I hope this isn't a tourist wearing a local dress)

Rethel
04-11-2021, 05:29 PM
Badakhshan (TJK/AFG) and the Yaghnob valley (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/Yaghnobi_regions.jpg) (Northwestern TJK).)

It's not a state.

Avicenna
04-11-2021, 08:35 PM
Badakhshan (TJK/AFG) and the Yaghnob valley (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/Yaghnobi_regions.jpg) (Northwestern TJK).

https://www.orphanednation.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSC_0292-768x508.jpg
(I hope this isn't a tourist wearing a local dress)

Generally yes , but that's a region within Afghanistan / tajikstan . I've seen individuals from khost/ paktia ( eastern Afghanistan ) with similar levels .

Avicenna
04-11-2021, 08:35 PM
Pamir region of Tajikistan/China

Pamir is within tajikstan/ Afghanistan not China as far as I know .

Dr_Maul
04-11-2021, 08:40 PM
Pamir is within tajikstan/ Afghanistan not China as far as I know .

Afaik Pamiris live in China as well but in germs of Geography you may be correct

Leto
04-11-2021, 08:46 PM
Generally yes , but that's a region within Afghanistan / tajikstan . I've seen individuals from khost/ paktia ( eastern Afghanistan ) with similar levels .
Some Pashtuns are pretty high in Steppe. Also Chitralis.

One example, the account is run by Sam Sloan

T156535

Population
North_Atlantic 11.08 Pct
Baltic 14.82 Pct
West_Med -
West_Asian 38.81 Pct
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 25.69 Pct
East_Asian 3.34 Pct
Siberian 3.57 Pct
Amerindian 2.69 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Population
Gedrosia 35.37 Pct
Siberian 3.88 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.78 Pct
Atlantic_Med 3.1 Pct
North_European 20.7 Pct
South_Asian 16.2 Pct
East_African 0.08 Pct
Southwest_Asian -
East_Asian 4.65 Pct
Caucasus 15.23 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

I really wanna see some results from Taxkorgan (Sarikol). There are over 40,000 Pamirs in the PRC.

Flashball
04-12-2021, 05:51 PM
According Global 25, apart from the Kalash which have 25-30% Indo-European but also mixed with Dravidians and other hybrid races, most have 20% or even less Indo-European, which is very little for so-called " true Aryans " (spoil: they are not).

People here don't understand the fact that inheriting certain European genes when you have 20-30% (in the case of kalash) makes perfect sense, it doesn't mean that they are purely European! Some Ashkenazi looks or have europeans traits, because it's a hybrid population (but a little bit less that Indians and other), so you have some europeans genes...

In addition, when the population is not large (3000 for the Kalash for example), it is sometimes easier to perpetuate the recessive traits, even if in the end we see that in many Kalash there are strange no-europeans traits, some look like gypsies (70% of their genetic make-up are non-European, so it's normal to see a lot of these traits).

XenophobicPrussian
04-12-2021, 05:54 PM
South Ossetia

викторслава
04-12-2021, 06:05 PM
South Ossetia

this is most likely it now that i think about it

Leto
04-12-2021, 06:07 PM
According Global 25, apart from the Kalash which have 25-30% Indo-European but also mixed with Dravidians and other hybrid races, most have 20% or even less Indo-European, which is very little for so-called " true Aryans " (spoil: they are not).

People here don't understand the fact that inheriting certain European genes when you have 20-30% (in the case of kalash) makes perfect sense, it doesn't mean that they are purely European! Some Ashkenazi looks or have europeans traits, because it's a hybrid population (but a little bit less that Indians and other), so you have some europeans genes...

In addition, when the population is not large (3000 for the Kalash for example), it is sometimes easier to perpetuate the recessive traits, even if in the end we see that in many Kalash there are strange no-europeans traits, some look like gypsies (70% of their genetic make-up are non-European, so it's normal to see a lot of these traits).
Who the fuck says they are pure Europeans? That's something your troubled mind came up with. There are no pure Aryans today. And by the way, the Kalash have less Steppe ancestry than the Pamiris.
Considering the time period when the Aryans existed and today's geographic location of Indo-Iranics 30% Steppe is actually quite a big chunk of Aryan blood.

Chaos One
04-12-2021, 06:29 PM
Like someone said, South Ossetia.


Pamir is within tajikstan/ Afghanistan not China as far as I know .

Well, there're Sarikolis and Wakhis in Tashkorgan, Xinjiang.

Jana
04-12-2021, 06:59 PM
Stears model with tightest fit on Vahaduo is 90% Hungarian and 10% Yaghnobi, who are supposedly very "Aryan admixed" for south-central Asia.