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vbnetkhio

04-11-2021, 02:38 PM

Anatolian:654,0.104717,0.142174,-0.047517,-0.065246,-0.013849,-0.019243,-0.007755,-0.000692,-0.005931,0.015126,0.005359,0.003597,0.00223,0.0060 55,-0.004614,-0.003978,-0.008214,0.00152,0.009427,-0.009004,0.002246,0.009274,-0.008504,0.000843,0.005149
Anatolian:655,0.118376,0.14319,-0.041106,-0.071383,-0.016003,-0.013108,0.003055,-0.006,-0.021884,0.008747,0.003248,0.007493,0,0.009771,-0.012893,-0.004773,0.007823,0.003674,0.007542,-0.00025,0.012353,0.000371,-0.006532,-0.00723,-0.002155
Anatolian:656,0.108132,0.141159,-0.047894,-0.056525,-0.025851,-0.014223,0.005875,-0.004615,-0.02352,0.004556,0.005684,0.008692,0.001635,0.0042 66,-0.008958,0.000265,0.008475,0.003167,0.004902,0.003 252,0.005366,0.008656,-0.003944,0.001084,0.008502
Anatolian:657,0.114961,0.137096,-0.039598,-0.051034,-0.010771,-0.011713,0.00329,0.000462,-0.012885,0.011481,0.006171,-0.002997,0.001487,0.000275,-0.016694,-0.003713,0.00665,0.004687,0.001006,-0.006753,0.004866,0.00136,-0.003328,-0.010724,0.006826
Anatolian:658,0.1161,0.149283,-0.040729,-0.063954,-0.014156,-0.028168,0.007285,0.000231,-0.024134,0.009659,0.006171,0.005545,-0.00446,0.015001,-0.018865,-0.0118,-0.004433,0.006081,0.008296,-0.011005,-0.006863,-0.003091,0.000493,0.002169,-0.002515
Anatolian:659,0.1161,0.137096,-0.037712,-0.056525,-0.008309,-0.017012,0.00282,-0.006692,-0.025565,0.01057,-0.005196,0.003447,-0.013677,0.011698,-0.00285,-0.017634,-0.008475,-0.000507,-0.005154,-0.003252,0.001123,0.006306,-0.002711,-0.002169,0.004071
Anatolian:660,0.105855,0.133034,-0.045254,-0.067507,-0.017234,-0.027331,0.00564,-0.008307,-0.013294,0.007289,0,-0.00015,-0.003717,0.006331,-0.0019,-0.007955,-0.000261,0.003801,0.00729,0.006753,-0.007487,0.006306,-0.000986,0.005302,-0.000599
Anatolian:661,0.110408,0.14319,-0.038089,-0.062016,-0.011387,-0.013387,0.004465,-0.005769,-0.016157,0.01057,-0.003573,-3e-04,-0.00892,-0.000963,-0.00665,-0.00411,0.002868,0.002027,0.012947,-0.002876,-0.000998,0.008037,-0.003451,0.005181,-0.000599
Anatolian:662,0.108132,0.138112,-0.034695,-0.062339,-0.018773,-0.022311,0.002115,-0.003461,-0.017385,0.010205,0.008769,0.000599,-0.000446,0.007019,-0.013979,-0.004243,-0.006258,-0.00228,0.005531,-0.004502,-0.000499,0.004822,-0.002218,-0.004097,0.005389
Anatolian:663,0.108132,0.150298,-0.041106,-0.05491,-0.016618,-0.017291,0.000235,-0.003692,-0.02577,0.006014,0.004547,0.006145,-0.002081,0.000275,-0.009772,0.00053,0.00678,0.007095,0.007919,-0.011631,-0.000749,0.005935,-0.005669,0.003374,-0.00467
Balkans:I9006,0.119514,0.160454,-0.006788,-0.068476,0.014464,-0.03514,-0.003055,-0.006923,-0.002863,0.050115,0.004384,0.015137,-0.009366,0.00289,-0.019815,-0.005304,0.024643,0.007601,0.020992,-0.000375,-0.007487,-0.012365,-0.010969,-0.000602,-0.001796
Balkans:I9010,0.110408,0.160454,-0.015462,-0.071383,0.029544,-0.038487,-0.003525,0.004154,0.013499,0.056129,0.018025,0.017 235,-0.00223,-0.00234,-0.023208,-0.005038,0.031553,0.003421,0.005908,-0.004002,-0.006613,0.003215,-0.016145,-0.007109,-0.003113
Balkans:I9033,0.091058,0.150298,-0.004148,-0.050388,0.022773,-0.013387,0.007285,-0.006692,0.003068,0.041003,-0.003573,0.019333,-0.020218,0.005505,-0.006515,-0.026518,0.00678,-0.003167,0.012193,-0.008629,-0.002995,-0.006306,-0.000616,0.005904,0.006945
Balkans:I9041,0.110408,0.15436,-0.006034,-0.068476,0.020004,-0.021475,-0.00282,0.000923,0.007976,0.042097,0.003248,0.0160 36,-0.019326,-0.008533,-0.016015,-0.002387,0.021122,0.006588,0.010182,-0.002876,-0.006364,0.016199,0.001356,0.006386,-0.00491
Balkans:I8208,0.1161,0.158423,-0.017348,-0.06783,0.026774,-0.032351,-0.00282,-0.001154,0.007158,0.04319,0.003573,0.015586,-0.017096,0.006468,-0.016965,-0.02559,-0.007693,-0.000253,0.00993,-0.017133,-0.003494,0.000866,0.005053,0.00241,-0.010538
Balkans:I8215,0.120652,0.158423,-0.000754,-0.066215,0.023697,-0.023427,0.00611,-0.009,0.002659,0.041914,0.002111,0.006894,-0.01665,0.000688,-0.020087,-0.005967,0.014864,0.001014,-0.000754,-0.008254,-0.013102,0.002226,-0.001725,0.011809,-0.006466
Pannonian_Carpathian:I1502,0.132035,0.144205,0.077 687,0.046512,0.069244,0.009761,0.00752,0.008769,0. 03027,0.012028,-0.002761,-0.008842,-0.000892,0.013212,-0.015744,0.002387,0.012517,-0.001267,0.004274,0.00988,0.008235,-0.005935,-0.004437,-0.031932,0.005269
Pannonian_Carpathian:I1504,0.125205,0.15436,0.0607 16,0.033592,0.061242,0.008646,0.00423,0.007615,0.0 14317,0.007836,-0.004547,-0.006594,0.001041,0.007432,-0.002579,-0.001591,0.010952,-0.002027,0.008547,0.004752,0.004617,0.005317,0.003 081,-0.013134,0.000239
Pannonian_Carpathian:I20743,0.141141,0.140143,0.07 5047,0.046189,0.047086,0.014781,0.004465,0.004846, 0.017794,0.007289,-0.000812,0.001948,0.00223,0.004129,-0.002443,0.012994,0.008345,-0.008995,0.000377,0.016883,0.007612,0.007666,0.003 574,-0.024582,0.000599
Pannonian_Carpathian:I20771,0.144555,0.133034,0.06 3356,0.047481,0.051394,0.018407,0.00282,0.004384,0 .010431,0.011481,-0.000487,-0.01139,-0.001635,0.003578,-0.007736,0.017369,0.024903,-0.011149,0,0.013632,0.007736,0.003586,0.000739,-0.014339,-0.00491
Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK19A,0.126344,0.139128,0.06 7127,0.036176,0.055395,0.009482,0.002115,0.006923, 0.016975,0.015126,-0.000325,-0.001948,0.000743,0.010597,-0.010722,0.02254,0.020861,0.001014,-0.00352,0.004377,0.0141,-0.004575,-0.003821,-0.025787,0.001676
Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK21A,0.133173,0.141159,0.07 6555,0.048127,0.051702,0.005857,0.002115,0.004615, 0.016362,0.006196,-0.001786,-0.005995,0.005649,0.016102,-0.005429,-0.005967,0.000522,0.005828,0.003142,-0.002376,0.008235,0.007419,-0.004067,-0.023859,-0.002515
Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK22,0.127482,0.14319,0.0750 47,0.042959,0.06832,0.012271,-0.00329,0.004384,0.023725,0.014214,-0.003248,0.001649,0.008028,0.011285,-0.017236,0.001458,0.01369,-0.00038,-0.00264,-0.001626,0.012977,0.004946,-0.008504,-0.030125,-0.002275
Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK23,0.127482,0.13405,0.0848 52,0.041344,0.060011,0.023985,0.000705,0.007384,0. 022907,0.008383,-0.00341,-0.012589,0.007136,0.013074,-0.006922,-0.012066,-0.009909,-0.004181,-0.003017,0.001751,0.006364,0.004204,-0.008011,-0.028438,-0.000958
Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK28A,0.132035,0.141159,0.06 6373,0.047481,0.056626,0.009203,0.00188,0.013384,0 .010022,0.010023,-0.002436,-0.002847,0.005352,0.015001,-0.007465,-0.001458,0.000522,-0.005701,-0.001383,0.000625,-0.001123,-0.002597,0.00493,-0.017352,-0.00958
Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK30,0.132035,0.140143,0.065 242,0.040052,0.056626,0.011156,0.000235,0.01823,0. 016362,0.019499,-0.004872,0.002548,0.002081,0.001514,-0.014386,0.012861,0.008084,0.00266,0.001006,0.0088 79,0.004243,0.00643,-0.010476,-0.024823,-0.002874
West_Scythian:MJ16,0.106994,0.066009,0.032055,0.05 5233,0.001846,0.015897,-0.000235,0.018922,-0.009817,-0.016037,0.003085,-0.002098,-0.007136,-0.003165,0.008143,0.014717,0.010431,0.011149,-0.010684,0.002376,0.000374,-0.009892,0.003328,0.004458,-0.005029
West_Scythian:MJ34,0.114961,0.093429,0.036581,0.03 876,0.000615,0.005299,0.001645,0.006,-0.006954,-0.015855,0.001299,-3e-04,-0.004906,-0.004679,0.009229,0.007558,-0.00013,-0.00114,0.001131,0.001626,-0.002246,0.001607,-0.004683,-0.011206,0.00455
West_Scythian:MJ35,0.10927,0.081242,0.028661,0.050 065,-0.00677,0.014781,0.013631,0.011769,-0.011658,-0.008018,-0.021598,-0.01109,0.015907,-0.009771,0.003664,0.004773,-0.005476,0.002534,-0.006913,0.007754,-0.018717,-0.009892,-0.008997,-0.004217,0.007784
West_Scythian:MJ46,0.10927,0.060932,0.027907,0.035 53,-0.001539,0.01506,-0.000705,-0.011769,-0.006136,-0.011481,-0.010068,0.000749,-0.024083,-0.01445,0.01045,-0.018032,-0.004824,0.001267,-0.004902,0.000125,-0.007487,-0.00507,-0.000739,0.00012,-0.008502
West_Scythian:scy011,0.104717,0.076165,0.030924,0. 028747,-0.011387,0.008088,0.008225,-0.003692,-0.01943,-0.02934,-0.002923,0.005845,-0.010704,0.005643,0.000679,0.008884,-0.011604,0.007348,0.006159,0.007379,-0.012728,-0.013107,0.011092,0.001928,-0.001437
Germanic:oll007,0.120652,0.12491,0.056191,0.051357 ,0.038161,0.015618,0.00752,-0.002308,0.001227,0.004738,-0.005521,-0.002997,-0.009663,-0.01968,0.015201,0.005038,0.009388,0.00076,0,0.014 382,0.002371,0.002473,-0.001725,0.005302,0.006706
Germanic:oll009,0.126344,0.133034,0.067127,0.06363 1,0.040623,0.016733,0.002585,0.005769,0.008795,0.0 0328,0.001786,0.01139,-0.005946,-0.000413,0.027958,0.014452,-0.016428,0.010515,0.003771,0.002501,0.006863,-0.007914,-0.004314,0.005302,-0.004431
Germanic:oll010,0.133173,0.140143,0.070144,0.05103 4,0.029544,0.018128,0.006345,0.015922,0.002863,-0.010205,0.000325,0.016785,-0.013974,-0.012661,0.012622,0.003315,0.005476,0.001267,-0.00264,0.024387,0.021961,0.004946,-0.001232,0.009037,0.005748
Slavic,0.1309273,0.1240867,0.0683506,0.0575551,0.0 376867,0.0212936,0.0087651,0.0113072,-0.002891,-0.0210999,-0.0016327,-0.0076594,0.0153563,0.0216328,-0.0112354,-0.0010965,0.0046903,-0.0006985,0.0025989,0.0017002,-0.0044989,-0.003479,0.0067387,-0.0040578,0.0007217
Finno_Ugric:Khanty,0.0841301,-0.1780707,0.1122999,0.0616228,-0.0828248,-0.0225053,0.0086442,0.0135245,-0.0007559,-0.0339039,0.0536024,-0.004939,0.0215493,-0.0724793,-0.0238101,-0.0134031,-0.0059013,0.0019389,-0.0018034,-0.011897,-0.0037977,0.0241123,0.0176886,-0.0030909,-0.0102933
Finno_Ugric:Mari,0.1013024,-0.0507766,0.0928472,0.0614992,-0.029667,0.0006692,0.0115628,0.0184148,-0.0037224,-0.0393264,0.028288,-0.0152266,0.0344596,-0.03947,-0.0348802,-0.02376,-0.0049806,-0.008032,-0.038765,-0.0317402,0.0163212,0.0052924,-0.0506792,0.010869,-0.0021794
Finno_Ugric:Ket,0.0865054,-0.1815766,0.1162286,0.0551038,-0.0784146,-0.0234828,0.0063922,0.0120456,0.0041314,-0.0249664,0.055699,-0.0027574,0.0187608,-0.0661966,-0.0187566,-0.009308,-0.0032072,0.00451,0.0095028,0.001926,-0.021587,0.033782,0.050137,-0.0245096,-0.017747
Finno_Ugric:Selkup,0.0729891,-0.2545805,0.1229178,0.0419092,-0.1051348,-0.0419556,0.0140859,0.0204944,0.0076442,-0.0202282,0.0638187,-0.0014799,0.0115956,-0.0672888,-0.0199762,-0.0116016,-0.004099,0.0045449,0.0124913,0.0003361,-0.0054902,0.0239423,0.0380683,-0.0094817,-0.006676
Finno_Ugric:Nganassan,0.0476917,-0.4066181,0.1557885,0.0023902,-0.1594452,-0.0882129,0.0285066,0.0433367,0.0310876,0.0128477, 0.1028569,0.0094115,-0.0040734,-0.0261619,-0.0219731,-0.0123307,-0.0010952,0.0134165,0.0268365,-0.0008505,0.0431363,-0.0118954,0.0336096,0.0003977,0.0135556
East_Asian:CHN_Amur_River_EN_WQM4,0.014797,-0.467144,0.106725,-0.034884,-0.087709,-0.071954,0.019976,0.026307,0.012271,0.011481,-0.025657,0.001649,0.001784,-0.005505,0.000136,0.002254,-0.009388,0.008108,0.015335,0.026763,-0.00262,-0.025472,-0.015776,-0.011086,-0.008981
East_Asian:CHN_Amur_River_EN_ZLNR-2,0.035285,-0.451911,0.088623,-0.03876,-0.074168,-0.048248,0.020211,0.027922,0.015748,0.017677,-0.020461,0.01094,0.008176,-0.004954,-0.007872,0.009679,0.005215,-0.005574,0.004274,0.022761,-0.019466,-0.014591,-0.02428,-0.00723,-0.008622

"Balkans" are Mycenaeans, "Pannonian_Carpathian" is a group of BA/IA samples from Hungary and Serbia with very high WHG admixture, and "West Scythian" is a group of Scythians from Ukraine.
Illyrians, Dacians, Thracians can be shown as a mix of these 3, so they are not included.
"Anatolian" are Cappadocian Greeks. They seem to work well as a proxy for the Middle Eastern admixture in the Balkans.

vbnetkhio

04-11-2021, 02:48 PM

some interesting things detected by this model:

significant Finno-Ugric gets detected only in Hungarians and Moldovans:
https://i.imgur.com/NOU5dwV.png

Scythian is the highest in Moldovan_o (Northern Modlovans with Ukrainian admixture.) I think they really do have such ancestry.
https://i.imgur.com/6qSL9OK.png

Where Germanic gets detected:
https://i.imgur.com/lx4AEX2.png

Luke35

04-11-2021, 03:14 PM

This is my father's (Hungarian) theoretical result, using the coordinates that Kaspias phased using me and my mother's actual coordinates.

Target: Mr.G_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.1395% / 0.02139516
29.4 Slavic
20.2 West_Scythian
18.2 Pannonian_Carpathian
14.6 Germanic
8.8 Anatolian
8.2 Balkans
0.6 East_Asian

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Here is my (Hungarian/German/minor English) result:

Target: Mr.G_scaled
Distance: 1.5473% / 0.01547263
43.0 Germanic
24.2 Slavic
17.2 Balkans
8.6 West_Scythian
4.4 Pannonian_Carpathian
2.6 Anatolian

Jana

04-11-2021, 03:38 PM

Pretty cool :o am I WHG remnant hehe?

Target: Stearsolina_scaled
Distance: 2.1029% / 0.02102862

39.6 Pannonian_Carpathian
35.4 Slavic
11.6 Balkans
7.2 West_Scythian
3.4 Germanic
2.8 Anatolian

Target: Stears_scaled
Distance: 1.2086% / 0.01208579

54.2 Slavic
16.6 Germanic
9.8 Balkans
9.2 Anatolian
8.6 West_Scythian
1.6 Finno_Ugric

vbnetkhio

04-11-2021, 03:42 PM

k13 version:

Balkans,14.5175,1.81,31.43,11.095,34.125,4.3575,0, 0.2175,0.41,0.2,0.5775,0.9425,0.32
Germanic:Denmark,50.61,28.70,10.19,5.00,2.12,0.52, 0.99,0.19,0.42,0.59,0.23,0.12,0.17
Anatolian:Greek_Cappadocian,6.83,3.81,18.16,27.6,3 6.59,4.92,0.94,0.03,0.64,0.03,0.4,0,0
Finno-Ugric:Selkup,1.71,25.06,0.00,3.81,0.00,0.00,2.68,0 .95,59.32,6.05,0.40,0.00,0.02
Finno-Ugric:Ket,2.00,22.06,0.00,2.96,0.00,0.00,3.98,3.40 ,57.55,7.77,0.28,0.00,0.00
Finno-Ugric:Mari,13.18,42.21,1.21,6.31,0.63,0.45,4.35,0. 87,26.26,3.33,0.38,0.15,0.67
Slavic:Ukrainian,26.53,45.54,10.39,5.93,6.34,0.90, 0.97,0.43,1.33,0.70,0.47,0.19,0.27
Pannonian-Carpathian,34.40875,34.63125,18.95125,0.61875,7.52 125,1.39875,0.21375,0.455,0.20125,0.55125,0.59875, 0.085,0.36375
West_Scythian,25.2825,26.0675,7.08,22.9275,2.775,0 .375,5.4325,0,5.3675,2.4,1.335,0.2625,0.6925
East_Asian:Oroqen,0.01,0.75,0.14,0.03,0.03,0.00,0. 27,27.38,70.00,1.28,0.10,0.01,0.00

my results:

Target: i
Distance: 3.2596% / 3.25955526
58.8 Slavic
30.8 Balkans
10.0 Pannonian-Carpathian
0.4 Finno-Ugric

vbnetkhio

04-11-2021, 03:53 PM

Jana

04-11-2021, 03:58 PM

maybe some of your Slavic goes there. try deleting all "Pannonian-Carpathian" except mok22 and i1502.
or replace it with HRV_IA

Target: Stearsolina_scaled
Distance: 2.5185% / 0.02518459

46.4 Slavic
17.0 Pannonian_Carpathian
16.2 Balkans
12.4 Germanic
5.4 West_Scythian
2.6 Anatolian

with HRV_IA

Target: Stearsolina_scaled
Distance: 2.6709% / 0.02670937

59.8 Slavic
20.2 Germanic
20.0 Balkans

Leto

04-11-2021, 04:06 PM

@vbnetkhio
I would also include Chamar for Roma admixture.

GalenStark

04-11-2021, 04:17 PM

......

Northern Albanian on both sides.

Target: Galenstark
Distance: 2.1554% / 0.02155390
60.8 Balkans
23.0 Pannonian_Carpathian
12.4 Slavic
3.8 Anatolian

Target: Galenstark
Distance: 2.1554% / 0.02155390
33.4 Balkans:I8215
23.0 Pannonian_Carpathian:I20771
15.8 Balkans:I9006
12.4 Slavic
11.6 Balkans:I9041
3.8 Anatolian:663

Coastal Elite

04-11-2021, 04:19 PM

Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 1.9466% / 0.01946571
45.4 Germanic
26.2 Balkans
11.2 West_Scythian
11.0 Slavic
6.2 Pannonian_Carpathian

Dad based on estimation

Target: Dad
Distance: 2.7470% / 0.02747032
44.6 Balkans
32.8 Slavic
12.0 West_Scythian
7.8 Pannonian_Carpathian
2.8 Anatolian

vbnetkhio

04-11-2021, 04:24 PM

@vbnetkhio
I would also include Chamar for Roma admixture.

it messes up the high Scythian for Moldovan_o:

https://i.imgur.com/qbqBk7d.png

this is with Onge instead:
https://i.imgur.com/kkWKiZW.png

Abriekman

04-11-2021, 04:40 PM

G25

Target: Abriekman_mother
Distance: 2.5286% / 0.02528550
82.4 Slavic
15.4 Anatolian
1.6 Balkans
0.6 Finno_Ugric

K13

Target: Abriekman_mother
Distance: 5.0940% / 5.09404494
83.0 Slavic
17.0 Anatolian

cakmir7y

04-11-2021, 05:25 PM

G25

Target: cakmir7y_scaled
Distance: 1.7398% / 0.01739845
50.0 Slavic
23.0 Germanic
22.4 Pannonian_Carpathian
4.6 Balkans

K13

Target: cakmir7y_scaled
Distance: 1.7203% / 1.72025384
47.8 Slavic
31.7 Pannonian-Carpathian
14.4 Germanic
3.1 Anatolian
3.0 Balkans

Kaspias

04-11-2021, 05:38 PM

Target: Kaspias
Distance: 2.5613% / 0.02561251
37.6 West_Scythian
26.8 Balkans
14.0 Anatolian
6.8 Pannonian_Carpathian
5.2 Finno_Ugric
5.0 Slavic
4.6 East_Asian

Target: Kaspias
Distance: 2.7374% / 0.02737423 | R3P
52.6 West_Scythian
38.2 Balkans
9.2 Finno_Ugric

Target: Kaspias
Distance: 3.8203% / 0.03820335 | R2P
71.0 West_Scythian
29.0 Balkans

Target: Kaspias
Distance: 146.9555% / 1.46955522
43.2 Anatolian
19.0 Slavic
18.4 Finno-Ugric
8.8 Balkans
7.4 Germanic
3.2 East_Asian

Luke35

04-11-2021, 05:42 PM

maybe some of your Slavic goes there. try deleting all "Pannonian-Carpathian" except mok22 and i1502.
or replace it with HRV_IA

I deleted those samples and my father's Slavic increases, and Finno-Ugric makes a minor appearance:

Target: Mr.G_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.2804% / 0.02280361
42.2 Slavic
19.0 West_Scythian
17.4 Germanic
15.2 Balkans
5.4 Anatolian
0.8 Finno_Ugric

Ion Basescul

04-11-2021, 07:38 PM

some interesting things detected by this model:

Scythian is the highest in Moldovan_o (Northern Modlovans with Ukrainian admixture.) I think they really do have such ancestry.

Where Germanic gets detected:
https://i.imgur.com/lx4AEX2.png

Apart from V02612, those are literal Ukrainians, one Ukrainian mixed with a Gypsy and someone that looks more Northern than Ukrainian like Russian or Belorussian, and not Northern Moldovans.
Northern Moldovans however form like 75% of the Moldovan average (32 out of 42) and 25% are Southerners (10 out of 42).
There are no Central Moldovans in the Global 25 average, but a weight of 75% Northerners and 25% extreme Southerners from Stefan Voda. This is probably a good proxy for Central Moldova and hence a national average.

Gergő Marosvári

04-11-2021, 08:17 PM

Target: Gergo_scaled
Distance: 2.9559% / 0.02955878
50.0 Slavic
25.6 Pannonian_Carpathian
13.2 West_Scythian
5.0 Balkans
3.4 Anatolian
2.8 Germanic

Impaler

04-11-2021, 08:40 PM

Target: Impaler
Distance: 1.7286% / 0.01728578
40.8 West_Scythian
26.0 Balkans
17.8 Anatolian
12.0 Slavic
3.4 Pannonian_Carpathian

Target: Impaler
Distance: 1.9822% / 0.01982202 | R3P
50.0 West_Scythian
42.0 Balkans
8.0 Slavic

Dušan

04-11-2021, 08:54 PM

gixajo

04-11-2021, 09:16 PM

For fun (We are not Slavs).

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 3.1991% / 0.03199084
39.6 Balkans
39.6 Germanic
20.8 Pannonian_Carpathian

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 3.4199% / 0.03419887
50.6 Balkans
33.4 Germanic
16.0 Pannonian_Carpathian

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 3.4914% / 0.03491362
38.2 Germanic
33.0 Balkans
28.8 Pannonian_Carpathian

17571imre

04-12-2021, 12:22 AM

nice! thankyou

Target: imre_scaled
Distance: 1.2734% / 0.01273419
37.6 Slavic
25.0 Balkans
20.2 Germanic
12.2 Pannonian_Carpathian
5.0 West_Scythian

Target: Imremother_scaled
Distance: 1.7890% / 0.01788953
45.2 Slavic
20.6 Pannonian_Carpathian
16.2 Balkans
12.0 Germanic
3.6 West_Scythian
1.2 East_Asian
1.2 Finno_Ugric

RicoSuave

04-12-2021, 12:47 AM

Target: RicoSuave_scaled
Distance: 2.4505% / 0.02450530
45.2 Baltic_EST_BA
24.2 Balkans
20.0 West_Scythian
10.6 Pannonian_Carpathian

RicoSuave

04-12-2021, 01:00 AM

Fatyanovo calculator has better samples

celticdragongod

04-12-2021, 03:49 AM

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.03762926 Germanic:oll009
0.04297143 Germanic:oll007
0.04548618 Germanic:oll010
0.06395954 Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK28A
0.06534113 Pannonian_Carpathian:I20743
0.06548685 Pannonian_Carpathian:I1504
0.06912538 Slavic
0.07009950 Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK21A
0.07124583 Pannonian_Carpathian:I20771
0.07419876 Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK30
0.07830441 Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK23
0.08134896 West_Scythian:MJ34
0.08201311 Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK19A
0.08786828 Pannonian_Carpathian:I1502
0.08829630 Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK22
0.10239188 West_Scythian:MJ16
0.10329807 West_Scythian:MJ35
0.10642923 West_Scythian:MJ46
0.10724871 West_Scythian:scy011
0.15012222 Balkans:I9033
0.15932662 Balkans:I8215
0.16305091 Balkans:I9041
0.16849556 Anatolian:657
0.16916834 Anatolian:659
0.17045780 Balkans:I8208

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.6931% / 0.02693071
89.0 Germanic
6.2 Balkans
2.8 Slavic
2.0 West_Scythian

VarangianRUs

04-12-2021, 05:29 AM

Target: VarangianRus
Distance: 1.6855% / 0.01685506
45.8 Slavic
22.4 Pannonian_Carpathian
17.4 Germanic
9.2 West_Scythian
5.2 Anatolian

MandM

04-12-2021, 07:09 AM

G25
Target: Milenko_scaled
Distance: 1.5263% / 0.01526344 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.6 Slavic
32.0 Balkans
9.8 West_Scythian
5.4 Pannonian_Carpathian
4.2 Anatolian

Distance to: Milenko
0.06305699 Pannonian_Carpathian:I1504
0.06670673 Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK28A
0.06875929 West_Scythian:MJ34
0.06886191 Germanic:oll007
0.07037971 Slavic
0.07204414 Pannonian_Carpathian:I20771
0.07296181 Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK30
0.07465292 Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK19A
0.07603719 Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK21A
0.07697540 Pannonian_Carpathian:I20743

Gergő Marosvári

04-12-2021, 08:18 AM

My results using the K13 coordinates.

Target: Gergő
Distance: 3.5945% / 3.59450841
70.1 Slavic
12.6 Balkans
11.2 Pannonian-Carpathian
6.1 West_Scythian

oszkar07

04-12-2021, 09:44 AM

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.2369% / 0.02236857 | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.2 Germanic
24.6 Pannonian_Carpathian
22.0 Slavic
10.2 Anatolian
4.0 Balkans

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.2349% / 0.02234940
39.2 Germanic
24.4 Pannonian_Carpathian
21.6 Slavic
9.8 Anatolian
4.6 Balkans
0.4 Finno_Ugric

try deleting all "Pannonian-Carpathian" except mok22 and i1502.

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.5510% / 0.02551011
44.4 Germanic
37.6 Slavic
14.8 Balkans
2.2 Pannonian_Carpathian
1.0 Finno_Ugric

lacreme

04-12-2021, 08:03 PM

My Greek friend and his mother.
He is similar to the Izmir average but for some reason he scores higher than the average West Scythian (his mother too ) , small amounts of Germanic and the Slavic is absent which it doesn't make sense. Could it be that it gets absorbed into West Scythian and Germanic ?

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 1.3335% / 0.01333544
36.6 Balkans
36.2 Anatolian
12.4 West_Scythian
11.2 Pannonian_Carpathian
3.6 Germanic

Target: ChrisMom_scaled
Distance: 1.6021% / 0.01602136
48.4 Anatolian
28.2 Balkans
10.8 West_Scythian
10.2 Slavic
2.4 Germanic

paradox

05-16-2021, 08:09 AM

G25 model

Target: scaled
Distance: 1.1418% / 0.01141843
35.8 Anatolian
29.4 Slavic
19.0 Balkans
11.4 Pannonian_Carpathian
4.4 West_Scythian

-----------------

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 1.9871% / 0.01987065
39.8 Slavic
23.2 Balkans
18.6 Anatolian
8.8 Pannonian_Carpathian
6.0 Germanic
3.4 West_Scythian
0.2 Finno_Ugric

-------------------------

K13 model

Target: K13
Distance: 2.9426% / 2.94261149
40.1 Slavic
37.0 Anatolian
22.9 Balkans

-----------------------

Target: Father_k13
Distance: 2.5019% / 2.50193045
34.3 Slavic
26.6 Balkans
22.5 Germanic
16.4 Anatolian
0.2 Finno-Ugric

InfamousAngel99

05-19-2021, 02:11 PM

Distance: 1.4313% / 0.01431308
80.0 Germanic
11.0 Balkans
5.8 Slavic
3.2 Pannonian_Carpathian

Scandal

05-19-2021, 02:14 PM

My fake G25 (created by gixajo)

Target: Universe_scaled:K13&K15
Distance: 0.0092% / 0.00922784 | R3P
75.4 Slavic
12.7 Germanic
11.9 Anatolian

Dunai

05-19-2021, 03:57 PM

I get pretty different results on the two, very diverse mixture.

G25:
Target: Dunai
Distance: 1.0095% / 0.01009503
35.6 Slavic
25.8 Germanic
18.8 Pannonian_Carpathian
7.0 Anatolian
6.0 Balkans
4.6 West_Scythian
2.2 East_Asian

K13:
Target: Dunai
Distance: 0.6495% / 0.64949034
40.5 Germanic
27.1 Slavic
15.7 Pannonian-Carpathian
11.3 Anatolian
2.8 East_Asian
2.6 Balkans

calxpal

05-19-2021, 05:33 PM

Target: Cpalscaled
Distance: 2.1404% / 0.02140425
47.8 Germanic
20.0 Pannonian_Carpathian
13.8 Balkans
11.4 Slavic
7.0 West_Scythian

Distance to: Cpalscaled
0.03854039 Germanic:oll007
0.04959342 Germanic:oll010
0.05030869 Pannonian_Carpathian:I20771
0.05569760 Pannonian_Carpathian:I1504
0.05600202 Pannonian_Carpathian:I20743
0.05935883 Germanic:oll009
0.05979702 Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK28A
0.06136613 Slavic
0.06146976 Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK19A
0.06257338 Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK30
0.06879183 Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK21A
0.07119864 West_Scythian:MJ34
0.07829358 Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK22
0.08053283 Pannonian_Carpathian:I1502
0.08092683 Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK23
0.09181959 West_Scythian:MJ16
0.09491443 West_Scythian:MJ35
0.09967720 West_Scythian:scy011
0.10488973 West_Scythian:MJ46
0.13663907 Balkans:I9033
0.13910553 Balkans:I8215
0.14284398 Balkans:I9041
0.14775059 Anatolian:657
0.15272244 Anatolian:661
0.15417737 Balkans:I9006

Nurzat

05-19-2021, 05:54 PM

Global25

Target: Nurzat (Romanian from Moldova region)
Distance: 1.3044% / 0.01304413
45.4 Slavic
20.8 Balkans
16.2 West_Scythian
15.8 Pannonian_Carpathian
1.8 Anatolian

Nurzat

05-19-2021, 06:18 PM

Romanian average for G25 I think has some outliers that should have been removed, hope they will improve the sample in the future.

these are all outliers, it's half of the sample xD

Target: Romanian:A374
Distance: 1.3790% / 0.01378969
38.4 Pannonian_Carpathian
27.2 West_Scythian
15.8 Balkans
11.2 Anatolian
7.4 Germanic

Target: Romanian:G428
Distance: 1.8109% / 0.01810931
43.8 Balkans
34.6 Slavic
9.6 Germanic
7.6 Pannonian_Carpathian
4.4 West_Scythian

Target: Romanian:A306
Distance: 1.6866% / 0.01686618
44.2 Slavic
22.2 Pannonian_Carpathian
13.4 Balkans
11.8 Germanic
7.4 Anatolian
1.0 West_Scythian

Target: Romanian:G434
Distance: 2.0664% / 0.02066352
34.6 Pannonian_Carpathian
21.2 Balkans
18.0 Slavic
13.6 West_Scythian
11.4 Anatolian
0.6 East_Asian
0.6 Germanic

kept these 3 as the only non-outliers in the Romanian sample:

Romanian:A362,0.126344,0.127957,0.038466,0.004522, 0.031083,0.00753,0.00235,0.004615,-0.0045,-0.001276,-0.006496,0.001948,0.001189,0.006055,-0.021851,0.001591,0.002868,-0.003041,0.005656,-0.003252,-0.005366,-0.00507,0.008381,0.001205,0.008143
Romanian:G408,0.114961,0.132019,0.036204,0.006783, 0.033237,0.009482,0.003525,0.008077,-0.001023,0.004556,-0.003085,0.001948,-0.004162,0.009771,-0.018594,0.001856,0.007562,0.001014,0.005279,-0.005628,-0.00262,0.000989,0.008134,0.00241,-0.003952
Romanian:G429,0.126344,0.133034,0.029038,0.010982, 0.01508,0.005857,0.009635,0.007154,0.00859,0.01694 8,0.001624,0.009292,-0.000446,0.014588,-0.018865,-0.007558,0.007823,-0.002407,0.005028,-0.007128,-0.010731,-0.000742,0.005053,-0.000482,-0.004191

and their average was:

Target: Romanian_avg
Distance: 2.0657% / 0.02065789
47.0 Slavic
37.2 Balkans
8.7 West_Scythian
4.7 Pannonian_Carpathian
2.1 Anatolian
0.4 Finno_Ugric

chrisbab

05-20-2021, 03:16 PM

Target: ChristianMom_scaled
Distance: 2.6306% / 0.02630565
51.8 Slavic
23.4 Balkans
12.0 Anatolian
6.0 West_Scythian
5.0 Germanic
1.8 Finno_Ugric

Target: ChrisB_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.8630% / 0.01862955
51.0 Slavic
32.4 Balkans
8.8 West_Scythian
7.0 Anatolian
0.8 Finno_Ugric

Target: ChristianB_scaled
Distance: 1.7189% / 0.01718946
50.6 Slavic
23.4 Balkans
19.4 Anatolian
4.2 Pannonian_Carpathian
2.4 Finno_Ugric

Ljubic

05-21-2021, 11:52 AM

Target: Ljubic_scaled
Distance: 1.5761% / 0.01576089
67.2 Slavic
27.6 Balkans
3.0 Pannonian_Carpathian
2.2 Anatolian

Whats the Slavic sample?

Polak

10-07-2021, 06:48 PM

G25:

Target: Polak_scaled
Distance: 3.6334% / 0.03633406
91.8 Slavic
8.2 Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK23

K13:

Target: Polak
Distance: 634.9004% / 6.34900415
88.8 Slavic:Ukrainian
11.2 Germanic:Denmark

2 very different results. They both prove I'm majority Slavic but that's it.

MandM

10-10-2021, 07:25 AM

K13

Target:23andmeMilenko
Distance: 1.6181% / 1.61809103
37.5 Balkans
34.4 Slavic
17.8 West_Scythian
10.3 Pannonian-Carpathian

Target:myHeritageMilenko
Distance: 1.4602% / 1.46023676
42.5 Slavic
40.9 Balkans
14.7 West_Scythian
1.9 Pannonian-Carpathian

noricum

10-10-2021, 10:07 AM

arget: noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.2682% / 0.02268159
49.0 Slavic
24.8 Germanic
15.0 Balkans
11.2 Pannonian_Carpathian

Kenshiro

12-08-2024, 08:16 PM

Target: Kenshiro_Scaled
Distance: 1.5644% / 0.01564443
38.4 Balkans
26.4 Anatolian
17.6 Pannonian_Carpathian
10.0 West_Scythian
3.2 Germanic
2.2 Finno_Ugric
2.2 Slavic

tk'es

12-08-2024, 08:30 PM

Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 5.7741% / 0.05774145 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.6 Anatolian
42.0 West_Scythian
2.4 Finno_Ugric

Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 5.8027% / 0.05802740 | ADC: 0.5x RC
52.6 Anatolian
47.4 West_Scythian

unmoggable

12-09-2024, 03:55 PM

Target: unmoggable
Distance: 1.5000% / 0.01500002
84.2 Germanic
7.0 Balkans
5.8 Anatolian
3.0 Slavic

0.03316757 Germanic:oll007
0.04009113 Germanic:oll009
0.04313271 Germanic:oll010
0.05798972 Pannonian_Carpathian:I1504
0.06063635 Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK28A
0.06177379 Pannonian_Carpathian:I20743
0.06406214 Pannonian_Carpathian:I20771
0.06635036 Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK21A
0.06644395 Slavic
0.06754164 Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK30
0.07067171 West_Scythian:MJ34
0.07155538 Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK19A
0.07726577 Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK23
0.08219352 Pannonian_Carpathian:MOK22
0.08480233 Pannonian_Carpathian:I1502
0.09496523 West_Scythian:MJ16
0.09514856 West_Scythian:MJ35
0.09972390 West_Scythian:scy011
0.10008174 West_Scythian:MJ46
0.13720500 Balkans:I9033
0.14547760 Balkans:I8215
0.14949597 Balkans:I9041
0.15262000 Anatolian:657
0.15409720 Anatolian:659
0.15555545 Anatolian:661

Anatolya

12-12-2024, 03:44 PM

Target: Anatolya_scaled
Distance: 3.2178% / 0.03217758
85.4 Anatolian
11.4 West_Scythian
3.2 East_Asian

vasiliki23

12-13-2024, 07:06 PM

Target: VASILIKI_scaled
Distance: 2.0588% / 0.02058804
40.2 Balkans
25.8 Pannonian_Carpathian
14.4 Anatolian
12.0 Germanic
4.2 Slavic
3.4 West_Scythian

Rhegion

12-15-2024, 03:56 PM

Target: Me
Distance: 2.2260% / 0.02226027
44.4 Anatolian
39.4 Balkans
13.6 Pannonian_Carpathian
2.6 Germanic

Target: Father
Distance: 2.7240% / 0.02724022
50.8 Anatolian
32.0 Balkans
11.4 Germanic
5.8 Pannonian_Carpathian

Target: Maternal_Grandpa
Distance: 1.8439% / 0.01843942
44.2 Balkans
39.2 Anatolian
14.4 Pannonian_Carpathian
2.2 West_Scythian

Target: Maternal_Grandma
Distance: 2.4005% / 0.02400530
44.8 Anatolian
44.0 Balkans
11.2 Pannonian_Carpathian

Target: Cousin
Distance: 2.4884% / 0.02488407
46.4 Anatolian
40.4 Balkans
8.4 Pannonian_Carpathian
2.4 Germanic
2.4 West_Scythian