Is American Anne Hathaway a clear example of Semitic lookin person, supposedly not being it?

[Cristiano viejo]

Apparently she has not Jewish origins but Irish, French etc... but she looks like one. No surprise why she married a Jew in a Jewish wedding

https://es.web.img2.acsta.net/pictures/19/10/16/01/22/0121805.jpg

https://cdn2.vogue.es/uploads/images/thumbs/es/vog/2/s/2017/13/anne_hathaway_7489_620x.jpg

https://www.hola.com/imagenes/belleza/actualidad/20190429141333/anne-hathaway-cambio-look-corte-shag/0-674-558/anne-hathaway-cambio-look-z.jpg

https://amp.diariodenavarra.es/uploads/imagenes/8col/2018/01/24/_annehathaway_1d954552.jpg?f28dc734754f6d960ba29bc 83ccb3a58

[Tooting Carmen]

Sort of.

[Smitty]

I don't think she looks at all Semitic. Always thought she was pretty actually.

[Immanenz]

A Med (even though very light skinned) with bigger ears, nose and eyes but gracile- can give such vibe, yes

[Avgvstvs]

You wish you were the jew she married, he bangs her and you don't.

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[GoalPoacher]

Of course she is a clear example of Semitic phenotype. If you go to Saudi Arabia you'd find millions of women like this.

[lustermoo]

Of course she is a clear example of Semitic phenotype. If you go to Saudi Arabia you'd find millions of women like this.

Maybe as tourists

[Celestia]

I don’t think her features are that out of range for her ancestry. Her hair and eyes are just dark

[slaog]

She looks Jewish, married to a Jew as you say and she has gotten many leading roles in hollywood movies despite being average looking. So yeah there's a good chance she is.

[Petalpusher]

I don't think she looks very semitic but she sure looks annoying and a terrible actress. She spoiled Interstellar for me, and some other movies.

ethniceleb lists her as

Ethnicity:
*father – Irish, French, English, German
*mother – Irish

She seems pred Irish, i ll take my grievances to Grace.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

She looks spanish, portuguese, french too.

[Ruggery]

You're right CV that's why you can find many guys like her in the Middle East and North Africa, she looks too semitic not only for Ireland and France even for Iberia. :picard1::picard1::picard1:
https://e00-telva.uecdn.es/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2019/04/30/15566100244287.jpg
https://a-static.besthdwallpaper.com/vista-lateral-de-anne-hathaway-papel-pintado-320x480-47789_170.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS75m4mleaefpRMP43cRe3hQ-r1T1r3vSVM-2yhhl_Mq_S2cs5x5WYTuMlvf8XOP_xfFGc&usqp=CAU
What's up with you CV? Are they so annoyed with northern euros and Jews that you are even hallucinating and can see things where there are none?

[RogueState]

She is one of the prettiest Hollywood stars right now

[XenophobicPrussian]

Yes, she looks part semetic(I would say 75/25 Europid/Basal Eurasian, 65/35 Europid/Natufian, 50/50 Europid/Dzudzuana or Anatolia HG), but then what does that make 90%+ of Spaniards look like? :picard1:

[Ruggery]

Yes, she looks part semetic(I would say 75/25 Europid/Basal Eurasian, 65/35 Europid/Natufian, 50/50 Europid/Dzudzuana or Anatolia HG), but then what does that make 90%+ of Spaniards look like? :picard1:
CV
https://stayhipp.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/IT-clown-.jpg

[Cristiano viejo]

You wish you were the jew she married, he bangs her and you don't.
Yes I wish I was a Jew to bang this quite ugly girl, juasss.
Every day you seem more retarded, Augusto. Too many spice in the espaguetis?



You're right CV that's why you can find many guys like her in the Middle East and North Africa, she looks too semitic not only for Ireland and France even for Iberia. :picard1::picard1::picard1:

What's up with you CV? Are they so annoyed with northern euros and Jews that you are even hallucinating and can see things where there are none?
Not my fault that she looks Semitic and yes, you can find many people so in Israel or among Jews in USA


Yes, she looks part semetic(I would say 75/25 Europid/Basal Eurasian, 65/35 Europid/Natufian, 50/50 Europid/Dzudzuana or Anatolia HG), but then what does that make 90%+ of Spaniards look like? :picard1:
We dont look Semitic, sorry. But even if we did, that is irrelevant, the topic is about this American of basically North European extraction :)


CV

At least I am not a sudaca clown, bufff...

[Ruggery]

Give me an example of Semites who look like her.

[Cristiano viejo]

Give me an example of Semites who look like her.
Sara Silverman.

[Westbrook]

No.

[Pietro97]

She can be french

[Ruggery]

Sara Silverman.
100% the same, they are twins.
https://es.web.img3.acsta.net/pictures/16/03/01/11/51/587818.jpg
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/doblaje/images/2/22/Anne-Hathaway_-2019.jpg/revision/latest/top-crop/width/360/height/450?cb=20190522005942&path-prefix=es

[Cristiano viejo]

100% the same, they are twins.


Rather mother and daughter.

Same Semitic smile
https://content.fortune.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/gettyimages-492565704.jpg

[Ruggery]

This man looks Semitic.
https://images.fandango.com/ImageRenderer/0/0/redesign/static/img/default_poster.png/0/images/masterrepository/performer%20images/p493601/serjtankian.jpg
This white man looks Semitic
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRIzq0LjeAwmUCikYRxJRhJzCS6c06ip R9ONTL65A0EqkkymrEfgEvESk0X3IuVvDbJ__c&usqp=CAU

[Cristiano viejo]

This man looks Semitic.

Fantastic. And? Go to open a thread about that, because in this that is irrelevant.


This white man looks Semitic
Zuckerberg white :rotfl ... and I was the clown :lol:

[Ruggery]

Rather mother and daughter.

Same Semitic smile
https://content.fortune.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/gettyimages-492565704.jpg

And? Whites and Euros can have that smile.

[Cristiano viejo]

And? Whites and Euros can have that smile.

Jewish actress Michelle Tratchenberg. Palest person in the Milky Way if you like. Yet clear Semitic traits. First time I saw her I knew she was Jew

https://c8.alamy.com/compes/mr8986/michelle-trachtenberg-llegando-a-la-ceremonia-de-gala-de-los-premios-hollywood-2003-en-el-beverly-hilton-de-los-angeles-el-20-de-octubre-de-2003trachtenbergmichelle091-evento-de-alfombra-roja-vertical-ee-uu-la-industria-cinematografica-celebridades-fotografia-bestof-arte-cultura-y-entretenimiento-topix-celebridades-moda-vertical-lo-mejor-de-la-vida-evento-en-hollywood-california-la-alfombra-roja-y-backstage-ee-uu-la-industria-cinematografica-celebridades-las-celebridades-del-cine-celebridades-de-la-television-la-musica-la-fotografia-los-famosos-bestof-artes-cultura-y-entretenimiento-topix-headshot-vertical-a-una-persona-desde-el-ano-2003-investigacion-ts-mr8986.jpg

[Ruggery]

Fantastic. And? Go to open a thread about that, because in this that is irrelevant.


Zuckerberg white :rotfl ... and I was the clown :lol:

Obviously, he's Jewish, but I'm saying he looks like a white(pigmentation) Jew with a semitic look.

[Cristiano viejo]

Obviously, he's Jewish, but I'm saying he looks like a white(pigmentation) Jew with a semitic look.

White Jew... That does not exist, boy.

[Immanenz]

Obviously, he's Jewish, but I'm saying he looks like a white(pigmentation) Jew with a semitic look.

Can you objectivy your claim ?

I mean what are specific (obvious) Orientalid traits on him ?
Most people dont know it and most people could mix (or do it actually) Gracile Meds, Litorid etc with Oriental types given the approx similarity...

[Ruggery]

This girl is israeli, she would pass as a white american or german girl however she does not seem to have semitic features. not all jewish girls look jewish.
https://c8.alamy.com/compes/c65bpc/esti-ginzburg-en-la-terminal-de-llegadas-de-sports-illustrated-swimsuit-2011-fiesta-de-lanzamiento-de-emision-pranna-nueva-york-ny-el-15-de-febrero-de-2011-foto-por-gregorio-t-binuya-everett-collection-c65bpc.jpg


Anne Hathaway doesn't look Jewish, to say that is like saying that Sylvester Stallone looks Jewish.

[Cristiano viejo]

This girl is israeli, she would pass as a white american or german girl however she does not seem to have semitic features. not all jewish girls look jewish.
True, she does not. But that has nothing to do with my claim. I am not saying all the Jewish persons have Semitic traits, quite the opposite: I am saying some "whites" do. Why do you mix apples with oranges?


Anne Hathaway doesn't look Jewish, to say that is like saying that Sylvester Stallone looks Jewish.Yes, she does. At least for me and reading the thread for some other persons more.

Stallone is Jewish and look so.

[Ruggery]

Can you objectivy your claim ?

I mean what are specific (obvious) Orientalid traits on him ?
Most people dont know it and most people could mix (or do it actually) Gracile Meds, Litorid etc with Oriental types given the approx similarity...
The nose and the lip area is something that some Jews and other Semitics seem to have, anyway I am not an expert classifying Jews.
https://realestatemarket.com.mx/images/influencers/mark.jpg

[Ruggery]

True, she does not. But that has nothing to do with my claim. I am not saying all the Jewish persons have Semitic traits, quite the opposite: I am saying some "whites" do. Why do you mix apples with oranges?
I just reminded you in case you didn't know that there may be Jews that look like euros like her or Natalie Portman.

Yes, she does. At least for me and reading the thread for some other persons more.

Stallone is Jewish and look so.
You're right Sylvester Stallone is 25% part Jewish (German Jew) however he looks like a normal Italian to me.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/45/13/4a/45134a021e32495693c317f0fce1c90e.jpg

[Immanenz]

The nose and the lip area is something that some Jews and other Semitics seem to have, anyway I am not an expert classifying

This isnt very concrete to be fair- since a lot of full Euros have similar noses and lips, but ok you admit you are not an expert

Its always amusing for me on classification threads when people see Armenoid on some Jewish Ops who are highly Euro admixed- but mostly as if there is only one phenotype there to start with...

[Ruggery]

This isnt very concrete to be fair- since a lot of full Euros have similar noses and lips, but ok you admit you are not an expert

Its always amusing for me on classification threads when people see Armenoid on some Jewish Ops who are highly Euro admixed- but mostly as if there is only one phenotype there to start with...

I was always curious to know how people differentiate phenotypes that are very similar, for example Armenoid and the semitic nose.

[Xacal]

She looks French. Atlantid

[Cristiano viejo]

She looks French. Atlantid

Frenchs dont have that Semitic smile.

[ferlk]

She does a little bit

[Tacitus]

OK I'm actually going to kinda-sorta defend CV here - she has a passing resemblance to Emmy Rossum, who's half-Jewish:
https://i.postimg.cc/pL62c6qs/740full-emmy-rossum.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/nhzFkJYs/Emmy-Rossum-Cute-Nice-Images-1.jpg

So I can see where Viejo might be coming from.

[NSXD60]

I know a girl here in La. as tan as Luso's (pbuh) mother, but with sharp PIE features, and would never be mistaken as Med by me or my friends, because she's of the same culture, rare of hue though she may be, probably 1 in a thousand (like a female cousin of mine); so Hathaway's extended features don't convince me she's Semitic, nothing other than North or Central Euro, because the edges are not rounded enough and too chiseled to fool anyone but non-PIEs.

[Defcon2]

OK I'm actually going to kinda-sorta defend CV here - she has a passing resemblance to Emmy Rossum, who's half-Jewish:

So I can see where Viejo might be coming from.

In some photos it is better appreciated that she may be part Jewish or Lebanese by Northwest European standards, but she looks between 90-100% continental European depending on the area.

[Immanenz]

I know a girl here in La. as tan as Luso's (pbuh) mother, but with sharp PIE features, and would never be mistaken as Med by me or my friends, because she's of the same culture, rare of hue though she may be, probably 1 in a thousand (like a female cousin of mine); so Hathaway's extended features don't convince me she's Semitic, nothing other than North or Central Euro, because the edges are not rounded enough and too chiseled to fool anyone but non-PIEs.

Lol, you are just biased. 70 % Med 30 % Semitic would be your genius rate if she would be anything else but from NW euro... at least she aint Mongol, right...

[Universe]

She looks more southern than what you'd expect based on her paper trail ancestry, but it is hard to say if she's jewish or not. Both White Americans and Jews have a wide range of looks.

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

She doesn't look semitic at all, she looks like a Dark haired European person. She's rather pan-euro passing, would never imagine her being jewish. Although there are many Ashkenazi that look like her because many Ashkenazi don't look Jewish, so If she told me she was Ashkenazi I wouldn't really disbelieve her.

She's basically Atlanto-Med

[Steppe Timelord]

She doesn't look semitic at all, she looks like a Dark haired European person. She's rather pan-euro passing, would never imagine her being jewish. Although there are many Ashkenazi that look like her because many Ashkenazi don't look Jewish, so If she told me she was Ashkenazi I wouldn't really disbelieve her.

She's basically Atlanto-Med

+1 She looks 0% semitic, wtf is going on with these retarded threads? She didn't look jewish to me at all. She has an atlantid type and still looks INdo-European mixed with the megalithic builders.
Lol @ semtici smile, her smile is 0% semitic, this type is quite common among Americans. Here's another actrice who shares her type(surname Hansen) she played marilyn monroe once btw...

https://www.indiewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/nicole-hansen.jpg?w=780

clueless people often asume x is jewish everytime, and exaggerates some traits...

[Cristiano viejo]

+1 She looks 0% semitic, wtf is going on with these retarded threads? She didn't look jewish to me at all.

Yes, she does, not my fault her features are very Jewish: big ears, bulging eyes, big teeth...

https://es.web.img2.acsta.net/pictures/19/10/16/01/22/0121805.jpg

And finally a Jewish weeding with obviously a Jewish husband, with whom has two Jewish children.

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Yes, she does, not my fault her features are very Jewish: big ears, bulging eyes, big teeth...

https://es.web.img2.acsta.net/pictures/19/10/16/01/22/0121805.jpg

And finally a Jewish weeding with obviously a Jewish husband, with whom has two Jewish children.

I've been to Spain numerous times and I've seen so many Iberians that look like her, I suppose those Iberians look Semitic don't they? :picard2:

Also her eyes aren't bulging

These are bulging eyes

https://rmhealthy.com/wp-content/gallery/11-signs-of-graves-disease/shutterstock_279700733.jpg

[Ruggery]

She doesn't look semitic at all, she looks like a Dark haired European person. She's rather pan-euro passing, would never imagine her being jewish. Although there are many Ashkenazi that look like her because many Ashkenazi don't look Jewish, so If she told me she was Ashkenazi I wouldn't really disbelieve her.

She's basically Atlanto-Med

In fact I am right, there are many Ashkenazi Jews who may seem European, there are people who deny this.

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

In fact I am right, there are many Ashkenazi Jews who may seem European, there are people who deny this.

Ashkenazi Jews often look extremely European, although there are many that look Half Middle Eastern and even some that look completely Middle Eastern because they're mixed. Ashkenazi are about Half European genetically (35% of that coming from Italy and France) and some of it coming from Eastern Europe. The rest of their DNA (50% of it is Levantine)

[aherne]

She looks completely Jewish (Ashkenazi). Her features are levantine rather than semitic (mostly East Med with some CM and Alpine)

[grapefruit]

I have 0 horse in this race but this whole time I thought Anne Hathaway had significant Jewish ancestry. :icon_eek:

[Westbrook]

I think you're looking at this backwards. Seems to me Silverman is a Jew who doesn't look Semitic rather than Hatheway being an Anglo who looks Semitic
100% the same, they are twins.



Rather mother and daughter.

Same Semitic smile

[Kriptc06]

I wouldn't say semitic but she gives me jewish vibes yeah

[Cristiano viejo]

I've been to Spain numerous times and I've seen so many Iberians that look like her, I suppose those Iberians look Semitic don't they?
Yes, we are.


Also her eyes aren't bulging

These are bulging eyes
These are other bulging eyes.

[Smitty]

I think you're looking at this backwards. Seems to me Silverman is a Jew who doesn't look Semitic rather than Hatheway being an Anglo who looks Semitic

Silverman looks very Jewish to me. She would have fit in well on Seinfeld. But I don't think she looks like Hathaway.

[Cristiano viejo]

Silverman looks very Jewish to me. She would have fit in well on Seinfeld. But I don't think she looks like Hathaway.

She could not look more Jewish in her Jewish wedding :D

https://momentsweddingblog.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/anne-hathaway-wedding-dress.jpg?w=580

[Faklon]

Looks mostly early neolithic Anatolian.

[NSXD60]

Lol, you are just biased. 70 % Med 30 % Semitic would be your genius rate if she would be anything else but from NW euro... at least she aint Mongol, right...

No, bone and cartilage structure are my criteria, PIEs generally having facial features the least blunted of any race coupled with head-shapes that favor rectangularity.

[reboun]

Her classification looks East-Med in my opinion. Therefore, I would say yes.

[Ruggery]

OK I'm actually going to kinda-sorta defend CV here - she has a passing resemblance to Emmy Rossum, who's half-Jewish:
https://i.postimg.cc/pL62c6qs/740full-emmy-rossum.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/nhzFkJYs/Emmy-Rossum-Cute-Nice-Images-1.jpg

So I can see where Viejo might be coming from.
This girl is another example of a Jew who can pass for euro.

[Immanenz]

No, bone and cartilage structure are my criteria, PIEs generally having facial features the least blunted of any race coupled with head-shapes that favor rectangularity.

https://www.fan-lexikon.de/film-tv/anne-hathaway/bilder/l/anne-hathaway-6322.jpg


https://i.pinimg.com/474x/9e/18/ee/9e18eed7835eddf37294e0ac2e654996.jpg

lmao she looks so Anatholian Neolthic it hurts- if she would not be that pale skinned ... thats basically what PIE banged when they arrived here in Central Europe or later when the Romans arrived in Britain the native Britons banged that as well ...

[Ruggery]

I think you're looking at this backwards. Seems to me Silverman is a Jew who doesn't look Semitic rather than Hatheway being an Anglo who looks Semitic

I don't know if you got it but my comment was sarcasm.

[Smitty]

She could not look more Jewish in her Jewish wedding :D

I mean, I'm not denying I could be biased. I never thought she was Jewish, and I've known she wasn't for a long time, so maybe that's why. But she does not look Jewish to me, Jewish husband notwithstanding. Unfortunately, a lot of actors/actresses marry Jewish. It's the nature of that industry.

[Smitty]

Incidentally, she resembles Aneta Corsaut (basically an Old Stock American with the usual bit of continental admixture):

https://d3d8y6yhucfd29.cloudfront.net/sports-product-image/aneta-corsaut-as-helen-crump-on-the-andy-griffith-show-passed-away-1995-8x10-bw-photo370-t3558280-1496.jpg

[Avgvstvs]

Yes I wish I was a Jew to bang this quite ugly girl, juasss.
Every day you seem more retarded, Augusto. Too many spice in the espaguetis?



Not my fault that she looks Semitic and yes, you can find many people so in Israel or among Jews in USA


We dont look Semitic, sorry. But even if we did, that is irrelevant, the topic is about this American of basically North European extraction :)



At least I am not a sudaca clown, bufff...Cristianito, you're about the same age as her, and even if she was not that rich she would still look her age, while you are deeply grey haired (well, maybe black haired people become grey earlier?[emoji2369]). And you call her ugly?[emoji57]

You despise jewish looking people, yet you support Vox if i'm not mistaken[emoji57], ever seen Abascal's face? Oh, that's very semitic[emoji918]

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[Vid Flumina]

reminds me of La Parisienne, txb. atlantid..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Parisienne_(fresco)

[Hashoeva]

this is how a saudi woman looks like and you call that dark irish woman semitic looking? wtf. there are many irish with dark hair and eyes. btw most ashkenazi jews look european. nothing semitic about them.

https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/saudi-arabia-women-driver-ban-lifted-7.jpg

[Cristiano viejo]

Cristianito, you're about the same age as her, and even if she was not that rich she would still look her age, while you are deeply grey haired (well, maybe black haired people become grey earlier?[emoji2369]). And you call her ugly?
And since when having grey hair is synonymous of ugly??? am I ugly per chance? quite the opposite.

Yes, she is ugly. She has disproportionated features, specially in a woman (big and bulging eyes, big ears, extremely big mouth and teeth). Perhaps in Italy you are used to see people so, I dont.


You despise jewish looking people, yet you support Vox if i'm not mistaken[emoji57], ever seen Abascal's face? Oh, that's very semitic[emoji918]

If Abascal is Jewish looking then I dont know what Salvini, di Maggio or Umberto and Renzo Bossi look...


this is how a saudi woman looks like and you call that dark irish woman semitic looking? wtf. there are many irish with dark hair and eyes. btw most ashkenazi jews look european. nothing semitic about them.

jaajjajajaja

[Demis]

She is predominantly Atlantid with minor Alpine, don't see semitic or East Med traits on her.

[Avgvstvs]

And since when having grey hair is synonymous of ugly??? am I ugly per chance? quite the opposite.

Yes, she is ugly. She has disproportionated features, specially in a woman (big and bulging eyes, big ears, extremely big mouth and teeth). Perhaps in Italy you are used to see people so, I dont.


If Abascal is Jewish looking then I dont know what Salvini, di Maggio or Umberto and Renzo Bossi look...


jaajjajajajaI've seen your pics, typical plain and average looking person convinced to be beautiful for some reason.....

All the ones you mentioned(who the fuck is Di Maggio) don't look even remotely jewish as Abascal does. Plus, taking these names out doesn't make Abascal less jewish looking(of course nothing wrong with that)

You can say she's ugly, it's your opinion, just don't put it like if it was obvious.



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[Cristiano viejo]

I've seen your pics, typical plain and average looking person convinced to be beautiful for some reason.....
Even if that was true, something it is not taking account MY REAL LIFE AND EXPERIENCES, it does not matter. You accused me of being ugly, and that is far of being true. Now you back out and claim I am just average. Damn, have balls and keep your version about I being ugly until the end, loser.


All the ones you mentioned(who the fuck is Di Maggio) don't look even remotely jewish as Abascal does. Plus, taking these names out doesn't make Abascal less jewish looking(of course nothing wrong with that)
Oh yes they look Jewish

Luigi di Maggio
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Luigi_Di_Maio_2019.jpg

Salvini
https://imagenes.20minutos.es/files/image_656_370/uploads/imagenes/2018/06/22/320452.jpg

Umberto Bossi
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ab/Umberto_Bossi_1996.jpg

Renzo Bossi
https://alchetron.com/cdn/renzo-bossi-8a0c082b-1730-4323-afb1-636c6cc6ce4-resize-750.jpeg

But perhaps you are right and they look North African rather than Jewish, specially Di Maggio and Umberto Bossi, who looks like a light version of Gaddafi (of course nothing wrong with that).


You can say she's ugly, it's your opinion, just don't put it like if it was obvious.

It is obvious for me and that is enough. I am not like you who by all accounts needs the consensus and general agreement of others.

[Avgvstvs]

Even if that was true, something it is not taking account MY REAL LIFE AND EXPERIENCES, it does not matter. You accused me of being ugly, and that is far of being true. Now you back out and claim I am just average. Damn, have balls and keep your version about I being ugly until the end, loser.


Oh yes they look Jewish

Luigi di Maggio
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Luigi_Di_Maio_2019.jpg

Salvini
https://imagenes.20minutos.es/files/image_656_370/uploads/imagenes/2018/06/22/320452.jpg

Umberto Bossi
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ab/Umberto_Bossi_1996.jpg

Renzo Bossi
https://alchetron.com/cdn/renzo-bossi-8a0c082b-1730-4323-afb1-636c6cc6ce4-resize-750.jpeg

But perhaps you are right and they look North African rather than Jewish, specially Di Maggio and Umberto Bossi, who looks like a light version of Gaddafi (of course nothing wrong with that).


It is obvious for me and that is enough. I am not like you who by all accounts needs the consensus and general agreement of others. I just said that you're pointing out her "bad" traits while you look 25/30 years older than you real age.... go tell me that looking 25 years older at almost 40 is a sign of good look[emoji57](maybe at 15 it is).
And also i said that you look average in the pics i saw, who are mostly of your youth, and now it only got worse with that grey hair....

Luigi Di Maio, not Di Maggio, you illiterate...can't you even read and spell names??? And yes Di Maio is dark.
Umberto Bossi looks european, at leats find some good examples of exotics, illiterate pucelano.
Still, none of them looks as weird as Ab-ascal(although it isn't, it sounds arab, doesn't it?[emoji6][emoji6]).

I'll just say: put a turban on Abascal's head, and enjoy your party's leader preaching the Quran.[emoji41]

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[samario]

Could pass as a light-skinned Spaniard.

[Adamm]

She looks ultra Jewish to me, always assumed she has Jewish ancestry.

[Cristiano viejo]

I just said that you're pointing out her "bad" traits while you look 25/30 years older than you real age.... go tell me that looking 25 years older at almost 40 is a sign of good look[emoji57](maybe at 15 it is).
How in hell you could know how I look if the only picture where I have grey hair I have a mask? :lol: and do you want to make me to believe I look 65 years in that photo? :lol: Is that all what you have? :lol:


And also i said that you look average in the pics i saw, who are mostly of your youth, and now it only got worse with that grey hair....
That is like if I tell you you look worse with your woman hairstyle :D


Luigi Di Maio, not Di Maggio, you illiterate...can't you even read and spell names??? And yes Di Maio is dark.
Di Maio, Di Maggio, Di Espagueti... who cares about terroni surnames?


Umberto Bossi looks european, at leats find some good examples of exotics, illiterate pucelano.
He looks very Jewish to me, with these glasses and a supposed problems of vision like many Jews, even if I remember a meme passing him as the doppelganger of Gaddafi.


Still, none of them looks as weird as Ab-ascal(although it isn't, it sounds arab, doesn't it?[emoji6][emoji6]).
It comes from the Basque but nice try:laugh:


I'll just say: put a turban on Abascal's head, and enjoy your party's leader preaching the Quran.[emoji41]


Even with a turban he yet would have light eyes unlike these Italian mongrels (nothing wrong with looking mongrel).

[Avgvstvs]

How in hell you could know how I look if the only picture where I have grey hair I have a mask? [emoji38] and do you want to make me to believe I look 65 years in that photo? [emoji38] Is that all what you have? [emoji38]


That is like if I tell you you look worse with your woman hairstyle :D


Di Maio, Di Maggio, Di Espagueti... who cares about terroni surnames?


He looks very Jewish to me, with these glasses and a supposed problems of vision like many Jews, even if I remember a meme passing him as the doppelganger of Gaddafi.


It comes from the Basque but nice try[emoji23]


Even with a turban he yet would have light eyes unlike these Italian mongrels (nothing wrong with looking mongrel).I indeed talked about your hair, that was very visible in that pic.

My woman hairstyle that you once called "great hair".....are you changing you opinion now?[emoji57]

You don't care(and you're not able) about spelling the surname, i can see that you missed some years of school[emoji477]

"It comes from the Basque country, nice try"....once again you have problem in reading, illiterate pucelano, since i wrote that "although it ISN'T, it sounds arab", is that clear now that the teacher explained the cabron how to read comments?[emoji57][emoji57]

Mh are you sure of this last statement? Even with light eyes? I'll show you another guy with light eyes: https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Williams_(attore)

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[Cristiano viejo]

I indeed talked about your hair, that was very visible in that pic.
So I look 65 years old just because the grey hair?? but what stupidity is this?? so this bald looks like a 90 yo?? :lol:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcROyHvOyZsErlHTgZUt9GmTFqycT47g-CBOQy0hU3dE-m-bt1cGb2TdkH27218TtlZUhPE&usqp=CAU

man, you say no sense because the lack of arguments xD


My woman hairstyle that you once called "great hair".....are you changing you opinion now?[emoji57]
Women have great hair :thumb001: (hey, nothing wrong with having woman hairstyle :D).


"It comes from the Basque country, nice try"....once again you have problem in reading, illiterate pucelano, since i wrote that "although it ISN'T, it sounds arab", is that clear now that the teacher explained the cabron how to read comments?[emoji57][emoji57]
Yeah, and Augustus sounds Arab too, and Roma sounds Romani :rolleyes:


Mh are you sure of this last statement? Even with light eyes? I'll show you another guy with light eyes: https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Williams_(attore)

He could look negro if you want, yet has light eyes unlike these Italians. AKA he is lighter than them.

[Avgvstvs]

So I look 65 years old just because the grey hair?? but what stupidity is this?? so this bald looks like a 90 yo?? [emoji38]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcROyHvOyZsErlHTgZUt9GmTFqycT47g-CBOQy0hU3dE-m-bt1cGb2TdkH27218TtlZUhPE&usqp=CAU

man, you say no sense because the lack of arguments xD


Women have great hair :thumb001: (hey, nothing wrong with having woman hairstyle :D).


Yeah, and Augustus sounds Arab too, and Roma sounds Romani :rolleyes:


He could look negro if you want, yet has light eyes unlike these Italians. AKA he is lighter than them.Who mentioned bald people? Not me, pucelanito(sounds so funny) ;)
Yes you look older because you have the hair of a person a lot older than you.

If Augustus sounds arab then everything sounds arab to you, maybe it's because you live in Balad al-Walid[emoji917]

If that light eyed black guy is lighter than them, then he is also ligher than the vast majority of spaniards, since they have brown eyes[emoji33][emoji33]....how can it be?[emoji2962]
Maybe Ab-Asqal knows the answer...


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[Cristiano viejo]

Who mentioned bald people? Not me, pucelanito(sounds so funny) ;)
Me, to make an analogy. But I see you lack the enough brain to understand it.

if grey hair = you look older, being bald = go and figure. Are you saying a 20 years old bald guy looks like a 90 years old man? :eyes


Yes you look older because you have the hair of a person a lot older than you.
So you think you look younger and femenine because your long and woman hairstyle? :eyes


If Augustus sounds arab then everything sounds arab to you, maybe it's because you live in Balad al-Walid[emoji917]
But it is you who invented first, Abascal comes from a Basque sound. It is all part of your imagination-wish :D

And Valladolid comes from the Celtiberian place name Vaccea tollit. Vacceos were the Celtiberian tribe here. But nice try :thumb001:


If that light eyed black guy is lighter than them, then he is also ligher than the vast majority of spaniards, since they have brown eyes[emoji33][emoji33]....how can it be?[emoji2962]
Maybe Ab-Asqal knows the answer...
He is. Not so than majority of Italians, since you are Germans and therefore lighted eyed people as everybody know.

[Gallicus]

I see a slight resemblance between Abascal and Christophe Hondelatte (white French Basque).

[Ruggery]

I see a slight resemblance between Abascal and Christophe Hondelatte (white French Basque).

Both are not of the same ethnicity?

[Avgvstvs]

Me, to make an analogy. But I see you lack the enough brain to understand it.

if grey hair = you look older, being bald = go and figure. Are you saying a 20 years old bald guy looks like a 90 years old man? :eyes


So you think you look younger and femenine because your long and woman hairstyle? :eyes


But it is you who invented first, Abascal comes from a Basque sound. It is all part of your imagination-wish :D

And Valladolid comes from the Celtiberian place name Vaccea tollit. Vacceos were the Celtiberian tribe here. But nice try :thumb001:


He is. Not so than majority of Italians, since you are Germans and therefore lighted eyed people as everybody know.You look older and you are not handsome, what's difficult about this?[emoji57]
Once again: the thing about bald people is a non argument that you brought in to justify your grey hair[emoji18], one can be bald at 15 but that doesn't mean that he looks older, but being so much grey haired at your age....damn, that's a problem my friend, you should dye you hair, maybe bottle blond so that you can feel lighter than everyone around you for the first time[emoji6]

Yeah, i know that it is of Basque origin, but I said that it sounds arabic-like..some pucelanito didn't have enough time to learn how to read properly[emoji57]
And btw there are even some spaniards that are quite uncertain about the surname of Abascal, but i'll leave it between you and them, so that you can start another Guerra Civil:
https://www.elespanol.com/social/20181228/santiago-abascal-descendiente-caudillo-arabe-ab-hascal/364213757_0.html


Vaccea tollit, Balad al-Walid.....there are theories about the both of them....could be either since the area was conquered by both celtiberians and moors[emoji2369]




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[Defcon2]

Yeah, i know that it is of Basque origin, but I said that it sounds arabic-like..some pucelanito didn't have enough time to learn how to read properly[emoji57]
And btw there are even some spaniards that are quite uncertain about the surname of Abascal, but i'll leave it between you and them, so that you can start another Guerra Civil:
https://www.elespanol.com/social/20181228/santiago-abascal-descendiente-caudillo-arabe-ab-hascal/364213757_0.html


Vaccea tollit, Balad al-Walid.....there are theories about the both of them....could be either since the area was conquered by both celtiberians and moors[emoji2369]




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Este artículo fue publicado el 28 de diciembre y es, evidentemente, una inocentada.

This article was published on December 28 and is obviously an innocent.


:picard1:

[Cristiano viejo]

You look older and you are not handsome, what's difficult about this?
You would need seven lifes to get the amount of girls I did. With your femenine little manly hairstyle even more.


Once again: the thing about bald people is a non argument that you brought in to justify your grey hair[emoji18], one can be bald at 15 but that doesn't mean that he looks older, but being so much grey haired at your age....
Spagueti logic: 15 years old bald guy does not look older because he says so. 35 years old grey haired guy does. Source: the tomate of his spaguetis :rolleyes:


Yeah, i know that it is of Basque origin, but I said that it sounds arabic-like..some pucelanito didn't have enough time to learn how to read properly[emoji57]
I could not care less what a spagueti like you thinks about how sounds. Reality is what matters.


Vaccea tollit, Balad al-Walid.....there are theories about the both of them....could be either since the area was conquered by both celtiberians and moors[emoji2369]


haha, no, it was never conquered. I know you wish but life is hard for you spaguetis :thumb001:

[Cristiano viejo]

You look older and you are not handsome, what's difficult about this?
You would need seven lifes to get the amount of girls I did. With your femenine little manly hairstyle even more.


Once again: the thing about bald people is a non argument that you brought in to justify your grey hair[emoji18], one can be bald at 15 but that doesn't mean that he looks older, but being so much grey haired at your age....
Spagueti logic: 15 years old bald guy does not look older because he says so. 35 years old grey haired guy does. Source: the tomate of his spaguetis :rolleyes:


Yeah, i know that it is of Basque origin, but I said that it sounds arabic-like..some pucelanito didn't have enough time to learn how to read properly[emoji57]
I could not care less what a spagueti like you thinks about how sounds. Reality is what matters.


Vaccea tollit, Balad al-Walid.....there are theories about the both of them....could be either since the area was conquered by both celtiberians and moors[emoji2369]


haha, no, it was never conquered. I know you wish but life is hard for you spaguetis :thumb001:

[Roy]

No, she is not semitic looking.

[Cristiano viejo]

No, she is not semitic looking at all.
At all :D

https://www.eshorthairstyles.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/18.Anne-Hathaway-Pixie.jpg

[Roy]

This girl is israeli, she would pass as a white american or german girl however she does not seem to have semitic features. not all jewish girls look jewish.
https://c8.alamy.com/compes/c65bpc/esti-ginzburg-en-la-terminal-de-llegadas-de-sports-illustrated-swimsuit-2011-fiesta-de-lanzamiento-de-emision-pranna-nueva-york-ny-el-15-de-febrero-de-2011-foto-por-gregorio-t-binuya-everett-collection-c65bpc.jpg


Anne Hathaway doesn't look Jewish, to say that is like saying that Sylvester Stallone looks Jewish.

Stallone kinda looks Jewish to me and it also makes sense considering his Italian and minor Jewish ancestry. Hathaway does not look Jewish to me as in me guessing that she's a Jewess first but she can pass as one as Jews have a big range in how they can look.

[Ruggery]

Stallone kinda looks Jewish to me and it also makes sense considering his Italian and minor Jewish ancestry. Hathaway does not look Jewish to me as in me guessing that she's a Jewess first but she can pass as one as Jews have a big range in how they can look.

Ashkenazi Jews can even look like Central Europeans.

[Avgvstvs]

You would need seven lifes to get the amount of girls I did. With your femenine little manly hairstyle even more.


Spagueti logic: 15 years old bald guy does not look older because he says so. 35 years old grey haired guy does. Source: the tomate of his spaguetis :rolleyes:


I could not care less what a spagueti like you thinks about how sounds. Reality is what matters.


haha, no, it was never conquered. I know you wish but life is hard for you spaguetis :thumb001:You don't know the history of your own city, pucelanito, but i'm not surprised, you probably learned the rewritten butthurt version that goes like this: balad al-walid was never conquered by the moros, ay ay ayyyyy! It was conquered by the visigoths, and only the putos visigoths have been here, olè.

You didn't answer on the spanish arcticle about Abascal[emoji57], afraid?.... Go sue the one who wrote it, start the Guerra Civil once again!


"I don't care" "i couldn't care less", i'm afraid your feelings don't matter in this discussion...and that shows that you're used to discuss with your mommy only, and she ends up saying: No llores chorizo de mi corazon! Mamá te quiera mucho.

P.S. i currently have short hair, and about the women you had: those that you pay for sex don't count[emoji6]

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[Avgvstvs]

:picard1:Fair enough, yet if even some spanish themselves have doubts with his origins...i guess it's not my problem[emoji2369]

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[Aldaris]

How Arabic does Apaiz Kela sound to you? Putaseme.

[Avgvstvs]

How Arabic does Apaiz Kela sound to you? Putaseme.More like a language not from this planet[emoji89]

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[Aldaris]

More like a language not from this planet[emoji89]

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You're not getting the point, are you. Some food for thoughts, how do you think a Spaniard would write and pronounce it?

[Avgvstvs]

You're not getting the point, are you. Some food for thoughts, how do you think a Spaniard would write and pronounce it?Abascal...?
Yet you failed at reading my point as well, i said that it sounds like it could be from arabic yet i know it is of basque origin(i made some research before[emoji6]).

You act like the reasonable one here, but you started the thing insulting me(putaseme)....it shows the weakness of your argument [emoji2369]



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[Aldaris]

Yet you failed at reading my point as well, i said that it sounds like it could be from arabic yet i know it is of basque origin(i made some research before[emoji6]).

Yeah, your point is a gross misrepresenation of linguistics. I got that before, zero need to explain yourself. Even if it sounded Chinese, my eyes aren't gonna get slanted.


You act like the reasonable one here, but you started the thing insulting me(putaseme)....it shows the weakness of your argument [emoji2369]

If you've kept your banter with CV personal, I wouldn't give a rat's ass.

But there we go.


You don't know the history of your own city, pucelanito, but i'm not surprised, you probably learned the rewritten butthurt version that goes like this: balad al-walid was never conquered by the moros, ay ay ayyyyy! It was conquered by the visigoths, and only the putos visigoths have been here, olè.


Still, none of them looks as weird as Ab-ascal(although it isn't, it sounds arab, doesn't it?[emoji6][emoji6]).


I'll just say: put a turban on Abascal's head, and enjoy your party's leader preaching the Quran.[emoji41]

Again, nothing of value, just mocking a surname over wrong assumptions. A Baqsue one, and aware of that. That's why I called you a putaseme. You are one.

[Avgvstvs]

Yeah, your point is a gross misrepresenation of linguistics. I got that before, zero need to explain yourself. Even if it sounded Chinese, my eyes aren't gonna get slanted.



If you've kept your banter with CV personal, I wouldn't give a rat's ass.

But there we go.







Again, nothing of value, just mocking a surname over wrong assumptions. And aware of that, even. That's why I called you a putaseme. You are one.I usually get personal, CV insults all italians xd[emoji16][emoji38]

I mock CV, yes, any problem, Aldarisito?[emoji56]

"Nothing of value" and starts with insults... coherence 404 not found[emoji1782]

I am a putaseme, if a random basque tells me so that must be true[emoji17]🥸
Advice: next time, if you want to be original use an insult of euskera origin

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[Cristiano viejo]

You don't know the history of your own city, pucelanito, but i'm not surprised, you probably learned the rewritten butthurt version that goes like this: balad al-walid was never conquered by the moros, ay ay ayyyyy! It was conquered by the visigoths, and only the putos visigoths have been here, olè.

What the fuck Visigoths have to do here? I never denied them comquered Hispania, and I dont have problem in it, since they are part of our ancestors.

But Moors? juaass, they conquered nothing here. Name me which Moor did, or quote me the names of the Muslim governors that ruled Valladolid. Come on, spagueti! :)


You didn't answer on the spanish arcticle about Abascal[emoji57], afraid?.... Go sue the one who wrote it, start the Guerra Civil once again!

I did not because Defcon2 did and because it is so ridicolous that does not deserve an answer.




P.S. i currently have short hair, and about the women you had: those that you pay for sex don't count[emoji6]


Finally you noticed how ridicolous and femenine you (and everyone) looked with a woman hairstyle.
Pity that happened due your little success with women :laugh:

[Aldaris]

I usually get personal, CV insults all italians xd[emoji16][emoji38]

I mock CV, yes, any problem, Aldarisito?[emoji56]

"Nothing of value" and starts with insults... coherence 404 not found[emoji1782]

I am a putaseme, if a random basque tells me so that must be true[emoji17]��
Advice: next time, if you want to be original use an insult of euskera origin

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I honestly don't give a rat's ass about him insulting Italians. But either way, it's him who does that, not Spain. So don't bring the rest of us into it. Or do for all I care, but then don't expect everyone to ignore it. And yeah, nothing of value. The fact that I insulted you doesn't mean it's not the case. In fact, that's why I did that. Kiddo, you don't expect a neutral reaction when you turn to mocking. Someone might slap you sometimes if you keep doing that.

[Aldaris]

I usually get personal, CV insults all italians xd[emoji16][emoji38]

I mock CV, yes, any problem, Aldarisito?[emoji56]

"Nothing of value" and starts with insults... coherence 404 not found[emoji1782]

I am a putaseme, if a random basque tells me so that must be true[emoji17]🥸
Advice: next time, if you want to be original use an insult of euskera origin

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I honestly don't give a rat's ass about him insulting Italians. But either way, it's him who does that, not Spain. So don't bring the rest of us into it. Or do for all I care, but then don't expect everyone to ignore it. And yeah, nothing of value. The fact that I insulted you doesn't mean it's not the case. In fact, that's why I did that. Kiddo, you don't expect a neutral reaction when you turn to mocking. Someone might slap you sometimes if you keep doing that.

[Avgvstvs]

I honestly don't give a rat's ass about him insulting Italians. But either way, it's him who does that, not Spain. So don't bring the rest of us into it. Or do for all I care, but then don't expect everyone to ignore it. And yeah, nothing of value. The fact that I insulted you doesn't mean it's not the case. In fact, that's why I did that. Kiddo, you don't expect a neutral reaction when you turn to mocking. Someone might slap you sometimes if you keep doing that.The reality is that i was talking with CV and you came in just insulting, this is quite obvious.

"Don't bring the rest of us in" , what are you? A goddamn tribe? A wolfpack? Grow up for God's sake.

I have nothing against Spain, i say those things to trigger CV(successfully[emoji57]) , if you are not enough smart to understand it, then avoid quoting my messages ;)

"Kiddo", I won't even comment that...[emoji1]

Out there people who don't mind their business might get slapped too



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[Avgvstvs]

What the fuck Visigoths have to do here? I never denied them comquered Hispania, and I dont have problem in it, since they are part of our ancestors.

But Moors? juaass, they conquered nothing here. Name me which Moor did, or quote me the names of the Muslim governors that ruled Valladolid. Come on, spagueti! :)


I did not because Defcon2 did and because it is so ridicolous that does not deserve an answer.




Finally you noticed how ridicolous and femenine you (and everyone) looked with a woman hairstyle.
Pity that happened due your little success with women [emoji23]Well, i'm 20, of course i didn't have many women[emoji57], i am young, something you are no longer, jealous.

Of course you've never denied the visigoths, since you're quite obsessed with light features.

"Does not deserve to be answered", ok fair enough, i respect your choice[emoji56], yet it doesn't change: you haven't answered to that.

Long hair= femenine look? Ok walid.



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[Avgvstvs]

Well, i'm 20, of course i didn't have many women[emoji57], i am young, something you are no longer, jealous.

Of course you've never denied the visigoths, since you're quite obsessed with light features.

"Does not deserve to be answered", ok fair enough, i respect your choice[emoji56], yet it doesn't change: you haven't answered to that.

Long hair= femenine look? Ok walid.


About Valladolid's conquer that you totally denied, here's spanish wiki coming at our aid, saying that even if it was only about military garrisons, it did happen. It might have been short, but it did happen.

https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historia_de_la_provincia_de_Valladolid

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[Avgvstvs]

Well, i'm 20, of course i didn't have many women[emoji57], i am young, something you are no longer, jealous.

Of course you've never denied the visigoths, since you're quite obsessed with light features.

"Does not deserve to be answered", ok fair enough, i respect your choice[emoji56], yet it doesn't change: you haven't answered to that.

Long hair= femenine look? Ok walid.


About Valladolid's conquer that you totally denied, here's spanish wiki coming at our aid, saying that even if it was only about military garrisons, it did happen. It might have been short, but it did happen.

https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historia_de_la_provincia_de_Valladolid

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[Aldaris]

The reality is that i was talking with CV and you came in just insulting, this is quite obvious.

He argues with every other member 24/7 and I don't give a rat's ass about it. The reality is you were 'talking' with him and didn't forget about some subtle insults in the meantime.


"Don't bring the rest of us in" , what are you? A goddamn tribe? A wolfpack? Grow up for God's sake.

Spaniards, perhaps? Not a rocket science there.


I have nothing against Spain, i say those things to trigger CV(successfully[emoji57]) , if you are not enough smart to understand it, then avoid quoting my messages ;)

Like I care for a reason you do that. You do that, I react. There are others who have nothing against Spain and expect a free pass to mock it because of that guy. Like Nassbean. You're not getting any.


Out there people who don't mind their business might get slapped too

I know that all too well. Question is, do you? I don't think you would fare well in here.

[Cristiano viejo]

Well, i'm 20, of course i didn't have many women[emoji57], i am young, something you are no longer, jealous.
My bambino xD


Of course you've never denied the visigoths, since you're quite obsessed with light features.
Same obssesed than yourself.


Long hair= femenine look? Ok walid.
Of course. Since always. In which world do you live, terrone??

[Smaug]

She doesn't look Semitic at all.

[Cristiano viejo]

She doesn't look Semitic at all.

She looks absolutely Semitic.

[Avgvstvs]

My bambino xD


Same obssesed than yourself.


Of course. Since always. In which world do you live, terrone??Yeah, i'm very young, jealous nonno[emoji57]

I guess you read the wiki arcticle i linked

In what world do i live? Outside of Balad al-Walid province[emoji57], panchito.

You despise long hair because you had black hair turning grey too early? Very likely to be so[emoji1782] , you speak leaded by envy,[emoji18][emoji57]


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[Avgvstvs]

He argues with every other member 24/7 and I don't give a rat's ass about it. The reality is you were 'talking' with him and didn't forget about some subtle insults in the meantime.



Spaniards, perhaps? Not a rocket science there.



Like I care for a reason you do that. You do that, I react. There are others who have nothing against Spain and expect a free pass to mock it because of that guy. Like Nassbean. You're not getting any.



I know that all too well. Question is, do you? I don't think you would fare well in here.Are you a cop? You behave like one xd

Tell me more about the last part, i'm interested[emoji848]

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[Cristiano viejo]

Yeah, i'm very young, jealous nonno[emoji57]
Il mio bambino neonato xD


I guess you read the wiki arcticle i linked
I did not. Which article? that of Abascal? I am not interested in the opinion of readers, less even if are, as it is your case, simple speculations with no base. Again it is like if I claim Roma is a Gypsy city, Venezia comes from the Arabic Ben Ezia, or Tuscany from the Albanian Toskani :laugh:


In what world do i live? Outside of Balad al-Walid province[emoji57], panchito.
xD Do you know what panchito means, terrone? xD


You despise long hair because you had black hair turning grey too early? Very likely to be so[emoji1782] , you speak leaded by envy,[emoji18][emoji57]

I dont have black hair but brown (same than you) and I despise long hair in men, it is very femenine and homosexual. Are you homosexual, Augusto? :eyes

[Avgvstvs]

Il mio bambino neonato xD


I did not. Which article? that of Abascal? I am not interested in the opinion of readers, less even if are, as it is your case, simple speculations with no base. Again it is like if I claim Roma is a Gypsy city, Venezia comes from the Arabic Ben Ezia, or Tuscany from the Albanian Toskani [emoji23]


xD Do you know what panchito means, terrone? xD



I dont have black hair but brown (same than you) and I despise long hair in men, it is very femenine and homosexual. Are you homosexual, Augusto? :eyesThe wiki page about the history of your city, that you seem to be quite unaware of[emoji38]

Yes, in this case panchito means moor from Balad al-walid [emoji846]

Toscana being from Albanian? I have no problem with that[emoji6]
Venezia unlike Balad al-Walid was never conquered by moors, so even if you claimed that(luckily you didn't[emoji38]) it would make no sense. [emoji2369](even if you deny the conquest of Valladolid with no source, but yourself[emoji57])

You clearly had black hair in a younger pic i saw, but that's not important, you now have grey too early[emoji38][emoji38]

It is very feminine and homosexual, source: yourself, an old ignorant campesino from Balad al-walid, who can barely read[emoji57][emoji57]

And also you often bring gay people in, you seem to be very into that topic...are you hiding something?[emoji57][emoji57]

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[Cristiano viejo]

The wiki page about the history of your city, that you seem to be quite unaware of[emoji38]
loOoOoOl, and supossedly you did?? let see:


Otra teoría, más aceptada que las anteriores, afirma que el origen de la palabra proviene de la expresión romana Vallis tolitum (Valle de Aguas), ya que por la ciudad pasan el río Pisuerga y el río Esgueva, que antes de su canalización, en el siglo xix, se extendía por varios ramales. Otra teoría, y esta más probable, es por el gentilicio vallisoletano, que se cree que proviene de valle del sol o valle soleado; en la Edad Media era llamada Vallisoletum.

También existe la teoría de Valladolid como contracción de valle de lid, lugar, por su llanura, donde se reunían los clanes y tribus prerromanos para sus enfrentamientos armados.

El historiador Ángel Montenegro Duque sostiene que bien podría ser la "Tola" del itinerario de Antonino de Ptolomeo, y apunta al origen céltico del topónimo, por la raíz "tollo" (lugar de aguas). Pero, siendo un poblado de los vacceos, "Vaccea tollit" (Solevantado de los Vacceos, o lugar elevado de los vacceos) parece un nombre más probable que "valle tollitum", dado que "Tolitum" evoluciona a "Toledo".

You are the typical Italian. The lie and the manipulation is part of your way of life. Quentin Tarantino was right


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF8TwHZ1RMs



Toscana being from Albanian? I have no problem with that[emoji6] unlike Balad al-Walid it was never conquered by moors[emoji2369](even if you deny with no source, but yourself[emoji57])
Ah but I same than you can invent the history and claim it as conquered by Moors. Not only Toskani received part of the Jews expelled of Spain (specially Livorno) but from right now Toskani was an emirate (nothing wrong with having Moorish ancestors).


You clearly had black hair in a younger pic i saw, but that's not important, you now have grey too early[emoji38][emoji38]
I think your long hair does not allow you to have a good vision. Remove the hairs of your face, terrone, you need it :D


It is very feminine and homosexual, source: yourself, an old ignorant campesino from Balad al-walid, who can barely read[emoji57][emoji57]
Are you deniying long hair is typical for women and super atypical for men??


And also you often bring gay people in, you seem to be very into that topic...are you hiding something?[emoji57][emoji57]


Not me who has woman hairstyle :lol:

[Avgvstvs]

loOoOoOl, and supossedly you did?? let see:



You are the typical Italian. The lie and the manipulation is part of your way of life. Quentin Tarantino was right


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF8TwHZ1RMs



Ah but I same than you can invent the history and claim it as conquered by Moors. Not only Toskani received part of the Jews expelled of Spain (specially Livorno) but from right now Toskani was an emirate (nothing wrong with having Moorish ancestors).


I think your long hair does not allow you to have a good vision. Remove the hairs of your face, terrone, you need it :D


Are you deniying long hair is typical for women and super atypical for men??


Not me who has woman hairstyle [emoji38]You denied saying they never came, while they did....result: you're wrong(as expected[emoji57])

You did not understand what i said(as expected pt 2[emoji57]), i said to look at wiki to see that the moorish did came there, it was not referred to the name origin[emoji38]....typical pucelano: the lie and the manipulation is part of your way of life.

https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historia_de_la_provincia_de_Valladolid

Read the "Conquista Musulmana" part and you'll find what I said, they had military garrisons in that area. You said they never reached the area, but they did. As you can see mine are not inventions. You're welcome ;)


Was Sergio Ramos gay in 2010? He had long hair...maybe he suddenly turned straight one day[emoji23][emoji23]

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[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

this is how a saudi woman looks like and you call that dark irish woman semitic looking? wtf. there are many irish with dark hair and eyes. btw most ashkenazi jews look european. nothing semitic about them.

https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/saudi-arabia-women-driver-ban-lifted-7.jpg

That is true, most Ashkenazi look European, however many of them have semitic features and there are a lot who look non-euro but yes your point is absolutely true, Ann looks Mediterranean, nothing semitic about her at all. And I can't stress this enough to some of the ignorant dumbasses on here.

[Pine]

My dad thought she was Jewish.

[Cristiano viejo]

You denied saying they never came, while they did....result: you're wrong(as expected[emoji57])

You did not understand what i said(as expected pt 2[emoji57]), i said to look at wiki to see that the moorish did came there, it was not referred to the name origin[emoji38]....typical pucelano: the lie and the manipulation is part of your way of life.

https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historia_de_la_provincia_de_Valladolid

Read the "Conquista Musulmana" part and you'll find what I said, they had military garrisons in that area. You said they never reached the area, but they did. As you can see mine are not inventions. You're welcome ;)

False, I never have said they did not reach. They even reach Central France and Northern Italy (well, Valley of Aosta was indeed conquered and ruled for almost 100 years). But they never conquered or ruled. This area was known as the Desert of Duero because it was a no mans land and absolutely depopulated.

I know you wish we were conquered, but sorry spagueto, that did not happen :p


Was Sergio Ramos gay in 2010? He had long hair...maybe he suddenly turned straight one day[emoji23][emoji23]

Yes. Like you.

[Avgvstvs]

False, I never have said they did not reach. They even reach Central France and Northern Italy (well, Valley of Aosta was indeed conquered and ruled for almost 100 years). But they never conquered or ruled. This area was known as the Desert of Duero because it was a no mans land and absolutely depopulated.

I know you wish we were conquered, but sorry spagueto, that did not happen [emoji14]


Yes. Like you.Liar, you said a hundred times they were never in your city, which is false...changing your version won't make you appear smart[emoji28]

You can say they reached central France and were never in your city, since contradicting yourself(and also inventing) doesn't seem to be a problem for you[emoji2369]

In the case of Spain, reach= conquer, I don't care if there was few population, they had military garrisons there....do i really have to explain you this, pucelanito?[emoji38]

http://www.superstoria.it/explorer/visualizza.asp?id=306
Yes, they made raids to Aosta, so? Why wasn't there a Reconquista in Northern italy then?[emoji57]
You know, they barely left anything to be destructed or cancelled other than one little tower[emoji57] and, as it's said in the arcticle, they came, imposed taxes, maybe left

Plus, you brought in Aosta like if you wanted to bother me, it doesn't bother me, i'm not soft and sensitive as you are on these things[emoji57] and most importantly, i'm not from Aosta. I have no problem in recognizing raids of the Saraceni in Aosta, while you have problems doing it with the invasion of your country, they even reached freaking Asturias, where they were at last defeated by Pelayo.


About your answer on Ramos, cry a bit louder, i can't hear you[emoji38]

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[Longbowman]

I don't think she looks at all Semitic. Always thought she was pretty actually.

Are the two incompatible?

[Mixdguy17]

Shes doesnt look jewish, just med, she can pass in southern europe, specially in iberia and also in france. Shes also incredibly beautiful, one of the pretties girls i've ever seen.

[Cristiano viejo]

Liar, you said a hundred times they were never in your city, which is false...changing your version won't make you appear smart[emoji28]
Dont invent, liar. What I have said is that they never conquered or ruled my region (not even simply my city) :thumb001:


You can say they reached central France and were never in your city, since contradicting yourself(and also inventing) doesn't seem to be a problem for you[emoji2369]
:zzz


In the case of Spain, reach= conquer, I don't care if there was few population, they had military garrisons there....do i really have to explain you this, pucelanito?[emoji38]
hahaha, yeah, in the case of Spain xD but for France or Italy that does not work so, true? :lol:


Yes, they made raids to Aosta, so? Why wasn't there a Reconquista in Northern italy then?[emoji57]
You know, they barely left anything to be destructed or cancelled other than one little tower[emoji57] and, as it's said in the arcticle, they came, imposed taxes, maybe left
Raids?? juass, nice raid that lasted almost 100 years :lol: no spagueto, they did more than that:


Dipoi, nel resto del sec. X (938-1000) la Valle d'Aosta come le valli vicine dovette subire l'invasione dei Saraceni, che, attraverso le terre di Borgogna, dal Giura avevano aggirato il lago Lemano e si erano gettati sulle Alpi Pennine. Padroni del Vallese, di là fecero delle incursioni nei Grigioni e nelle altre parti della Svizzera. Avevano come baluardi il Gran S. Bernardo e le altre montagne, dove si erano fortificati elevando alcuni castelli di cui si ammirano ancora gli avanzi imponenti (ad esempio il castello di Montmajeur, all'entrata della Valgrisanche).

https://www.treccani.it/enciclopedia/valle-d-aosta_res-3d3bba7f-8bb8-11dc-8e9d-0016357eee51_%28Enciclopedia-Italiana%29/

LEARN THE DIFFERENCE: Raids were what Moors did toward parts of Switzerland and North Italy, not their stay and rule of the Aosta Valley:thumb001:


Molti studiosi sostengono che il periodo peggiore della storia valdostana fu quello dell ’ invasione araba, che avvenne verso la metà del decimo secolo dopo Cristo e si prolungò per cinquanta anni fino al Mille. I Saraceni entrarono nella Valle dalla Francia e vi portarono guasti e rovine, bruciando villaggi e maltrattando a tal punto i valdostani da costringerli a una quasi totale emigrazione. Come se non bastasse, con gli Arabi entrò nella Valle perfino la lebbra, fino allora sconosciuta in Europa. Eppure sono almeno due i motivi che oggi possono farci riabilitare in parte quei Saraceni. Il primo motivo è che realizzarono una fitta rete di canali artificiali, che scendevano dalle montagne con ardite cascate e deviazioni, e andavano ad irrigare e fertilizzare i terreni. I Saraceni in fatto di idraulica sono sempre stati maestri: basti pensare che ancora oggi le porte che regolano il flusso dell’acqua si chiamano « saracinesche ».

Il secondo titolo di merito del’ invasione saracena nella Valle consiste nella costruzione delle prime rocche su cucuzzoli più inaccessibili. Certamente non è un grosso merito storico, ma è almeno un suggerimento turistico da non sottovalutare, visto che da quelle prime torri sono poi nati i tanti castelli valdostani. Infatti appena i Saraceni se ne andarono, i primi feudatari si installarono in quelle torri di difesa e ampliandole ne fecero i castelli che ancora oggi suscitano la nostra ammirazione. I castelli valdostani sono in tutto 72 e anche se molti sono ridotti a pochi ruderi, meritano un ’attenzione non solo artistica, ma storica. Si può dire che in quei 72 castelli si concentra tutta la storia della Valle, dal Mille fino alla Rivoluzione Francese

http://www.superstoria.it/explorer/visualizza.asp?id=306

I HOPE YOU HAVE LEARNED SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR COUNTRY AND WHAT MOORS LEFT IN NORTH ITALY, SPEAGUETO :thumb001:
THAT IS INDEED RULING A REGION, DEAR :thumb001:


Plus, you brought in Aosta like if you wanted to bother me, it doesn't bother me, i'm not soft and sensitive as you are on these things[emoji57] and most importantly, i'm not from Aosta. I have no problem in recognizing raids of the Saraceni in Aosta, while you have problems doing it with the invasion of your country, they even reached freaking Asturias, where they were at last defeated by Pelayo.
Difference is that Asturias never was ruled by Moors. Aosta Valley was.

I will be good and will not count as a conquest the invasion and semi-rule of Moors in Piamonte, even if it were another almost 100 years :laugh:


All’inizio del 900 i territori del sud Piemonte furono invasi dai Saraceni, che partendo dalla baia di La Garde Freinet, vicino a Nizza, compirono scorrerie e si stabilirono anche in Valle Varaita. La cacciata definitiva dei Saraceni avvenne tra il 970 e il 973, ma della loro presenza ancora oggi restano tracce, soprattutto nella toponomastica e, in alcuni Comuni, nella tradizione di far rivivere nelle “badie” il ricordo del loro dominio.

https://www.comune.brossasco.cn.it/archivio/pagine/Cenni_e_avvenimenti_storici.asp


Nel golfo francese di S.Tropez, allora Fraxinetum Sarracenorum, i saraceni avevano costituito un punto di base alle loro scorribande. Era l’anno 889 quando un imbarcazione di pirati arabi si fermò furtivamente in una baia vicino all’attuale golfo di S.Tropez e dopo aver invaso un vicino villaggio e visionato i dintorni compresero l’importanza stategica di quei luoghi. Ci restarono sino al 975, anno della distruzione di Frassinetto (molti rimasero nei nostri paesi e si mescolarono con la popolazione locale aggiungendo ad essa quei caratteri ereditari che ancora oggi sono visibili sui volti di tanti piemontesi, come i capelli ricci e gli occhi neri).


Si spinsero poi a Oneglia, Albenga, Genova e, penetrando nell’entroterra giunsero in Val Tanaro, sino a Mondovì, Borgo S.Dalmazzo ( antica Pedona), Acqui e Tortona, trucidando gli abitanti e distruggendo chiese e abbazie. Nel 904, per la precisione il 24 maggio, lungo il torrente Pogliola, presso Mondovi’, uccisero non prima di averlo spellato vivo, il vescoso di Asti, Eilulfo (diventerà in seguito S.Bernolfo) che marciava contro di loro. Nel 906 invasero la valle del Tanaro e la valle Pesio, stabilendosi tra la popolazione e per 70 anni non ebbero nessuna difficoltà a gestire il loro dominio. Un loro vantaggio fu quello di arrivare dalla Liguria, scavalcando montagne e incontrando gente poca avvezza a tecniche difensive di guerra. In millenni di civiltà mai nessuno, neanche i Romani, affrontarono con tanta prepotenza ed enormi carneficine queste popolazioni.


Tutto questo creò uno spostamento di genti dalla piana verso l’alta montagna che, perdurando la minaccia, costituì la prima vera base di nuclei abitati in aggiunta alle grange benedettine di Villarchiosso (Villare clausum), Valdinferno, Porenca, Perzietta e altre. Per proteggere poi questa vie di penetrazione in Piemonte, nella seconda e più numerosa calata del 935, in una realtà storica feudale e in balia dei signorotti, gli arabi si insediarono in alcuni punti strategici erigendo torri e fortificazioni. Per ammirare questa fenomenali tecniche di costruzione basta visitare i resti del castello di Frabosa (CN) oppure la stupenda torre posta su di un precipizio in alta val Tanaro (CN), ai Barchi presso Eca Nasagò.


Il nome stesso della frazione Eca Nasago’ trae origine da due parole arabe che significano “feroce” e “luogo di battaglia“, per indicare probabilmente qualche terribile scontro avvenuto in zona. Si conosce anche il nome del loro condottiero, Sagittus, famoso per la sua infallibilità nel tiro con l’arco. Dalla torre dei Barchi detta dei Saraceni, partivano ogni giorno per il saccheggio dei paesi vicini, assalivano castelli, distruggevano chiese, incenerivano le biblioteche e i codici miniati dei conventi, riducevano allo squallore totale tutti gli edifici che incontravano sul loro cammino infernale. Massacravano gli uomini e rapivano fanciulle e bimbi che poi avviavano sui lontani mercati di schiavi in Oriente.

https://myamazighen.wordpress.com/2011/08/04/linvasione-araba-nel-piemonte-medioevale/

Nice last part where they speak about the Moorish ancestry in Piamonte :laugh:

And this, dear espagueti with a woman hairstyle, it is not Wikipedia but own Italian sources :noidea:

[Jaromir]

yes, quite Spanish look

[Avgvstvs]

Dont invent, liar. What I have said is that they never conquered or ruled my region (not even simply my city) :thumb001:


:zzz


hahaha, yeah, in the case of Spain xD but for France or Italy that does not work so, true? [emoji38]


Raids?? juass, nice raid that lasted almost 100 years [emoji38] no spagueto, they did more than that:



https://www.treccani.it/enciclopedia/valle-d-aosta_res-3d3bba7f-8bb8-11dc-8e9d-0016357eee51_%28Enciclopedia-Italiana%29/

LEARN THE DIFFERENCE: Raids were what Moors did toward parts of Switzerland and North Italy, not their stay and rule of the Aosta Valley:thumb001:



http://www.superstoria.it/explorer/visualizza.asp?id=306

I HOPE YOU HAVE LEARNED SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR COUNTRY AND WHAT MOORS LEFT IN NORTH ITALY, SPEAGUETO :thumb001:
THAT IS INDEED RULING A REGION, DEAR :thumb001:


Difference is that Asturias never was ruled by Moors. Aosta Valley was.

I will be good and will not count as a conquest the invasion and semi-rule of Moors in Piamonte, even if it were another almost 100 years [emoji23]



https://www.comune.brossasco.cn.it/archivio/pagine/Cenni_e_avvenimenti_storici.asp









https://myamazighen.wordpress.com/2011/08/04/linvasione-araba-nel-piemonte-medioevale/

Nice last part where they speak about the Moorish ancestry in Piamonte [emoji23]

And this, dear espagueti with a woman hairstyle, it is not Wikipedia but own Italian sources :noidea:So having curly hair now means being of moorish ancestry? Nice theory the guy has[emoji57], so the spanish with curly hair are moorish? I don't think so ;)

Piemonte, not Piamonte, I was right about you being illiterate[emoji57]

You fail to understand that I don't care if the moors raided Aosta, they left nearly nothing there and even if they left a lot of things, i'd be fine[emoji18][emoji4]
You, instead, are playing with words and want so desperately deny any contact with the moors that you area had.

I am ok with that, not me who's obsessed with being whiter/lighter than anyone ;)

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[Armenian Bishop]

There obviously aren’t any actual photographs of Shakespeare, but the artwork that does exist showing what he looked like is very similar to Hathaway’s real-life husband, Adam Shulman. And as for Shakespeare’s wife herself? She was, in fact, named Anne Hathaway.
https://www.insider.com/anne-hathaway-husband-shakespeare-2018-7

[Lozano]

Her eyes and mouth are way too big and disproportionate for the size of his head

[Smitty]

Are the two incompatible?

Not strictly, of course. But I would say most Westerners don't find Semitic traits attractive, and I'm no exception. I can think of some Jewish women who I do think are pretty, though: Suzanne Pleshette, Lauren Bacall, Ina Balin, Scarlett Johansson.

[Longbowman]

Not strictly, of course. But I would say most Westerners don't find Semitic traits attractive, and I'm no exception. I can think of some Jewish women who I do think are pretty, though: Suzanne Pleshette, Lauren Bacall, Ina Balin, Scarlett Johansson.

That's probably because you view 'Semitic traits' as der Stuermer-esque.

Most Jews don't really look Semitic, none on your list do and Johansson is paternally Danish anyway, that wasn't really the point.

IMO any Westerner with a halfway-open find finds harmonious, symmetrical features attractive in any individual.

[Smitty]

That's probably because you view 'Semitic traits' as der Stuermer-esque.

Most Jews don't really look Semitic, none on your list do and Johansson is paternally Danish anyway, that wasn't really the point.

IMO any Westerner with a halfway-open find finds harmonious, symmetrical features attractive in any individual.

The last sentence, I don't necessarily agree with. Blacks and Amerindians are pretty much universally unattractive to me. I can find a face easy to look at, so to speak. But even if Viola Davis or Lupita Nyong'o are easy to look at, I don't find them attractive, per se.

I agree Ashkenazi Jews don't look purely Semitic. But Suzanne Pleshette definitely has Semitic traits (and she's the prettiest of the four I mentioned). Traits I consider Semitic but not exclusively so: large eyes (think Goldie Hawn), prominent and convex noses (Barbra Streisand), a certain type of mouth that I can't describe (Ben Shapiro has it; this may not be technically Semitic, but I've definitely noticed it among Ashkenazi Jews), frizzy dark hair (see Emmy Rossum above).

[Longbowman]

The last sentence, I don't necessarily agree with. Blacks and Amerindians are pretty much universally unattractive to me. I can find a face easy to look at, so to speak. But even if Viola Davis or Lupita Nyong'o are easy to look at, I don't find them attractive, per se.

I agree Ashkenazi Jews don't look purely Semitic. But Suzanne Pleshette definitely has Semitic traits (and she's the prettiest of the four I mentioned). Traits I consider Semitic but not exclusively so: large eyes (think Goldie Hawn), prominent and convex noses (Barbra Streisand), a certain type of mouth that I can't describe (Ben Shapiro has it; this may not be technically Semitic, but I've definitely noticed it among Ashkenazi Jews), frizzy dark hair (see Emmy Rossum above).

This is mild prevarication. I wasn't asking you if you have the hots for any Semite. You can not be personally attracted to someone and recognise them as good-looking. For example, I am not attracted to Chris Hemsworth, but I would say he is good-looking/pretty/handsome, etc.

[Smitty]

You can not be personally attracted to someone and recognise them as good-looking. For example, I am not attracted to Chris Hemsworth, but I would say he is good-looking/pretty/handsome, etc.

So we have sexual and non-sexual attraction. If you're defining good-looking as including both, then sure, there are good-looking people from all races. All it takes is a set of features that is inoffensive or easy to look at - Viola Davis, for example. But if handsome/beautiful are based on a sexual attraction, then it's a much smaller club. You may not be personally attracted to Hemsworth, but what you recognize is that his looks are likely to attract many women. Therefore, he is handsome. In that sense, I don't think Viola Davis is pretty, nor most/all Africans, Amerindians, and South Asians in my Eurocentric world. But we're splitting hairs, of course.

[Longbowman]

So we have sexual and non-sexual attraction. If you're defining good-looking as including both, then sure, there are good-looking people from all races. All it takes is a set of features that is inoffensive or easy to look at - Viola Davis, for example. But if handsome/beautiful are based on a sexual attraction, then it's a much smaller club. You may not be personally attracted to Hemsworth, but what you recognize is that his looks are likely to attract many women. Therefore, he is handsome. In that sense, I don't think Viola Davis is pretty, nor most/all Africans, Amerindians, and South Asians in my Eurocentric world. But we're splitting hairs, of course.

That is very silly. First of all, handsome/pretty do not have inherent sexual connotations, or my grandmother was super into all her progeny. That is the word you used, so don't shift the goalposts.

Second, you can fool yourself that most whites wouldn't fuck a black, most blacks wouldn't fuck an Asian and most Asians wouldn't fuck a white but whilst I agree the preference of the average person is in-race dating, you're kidding if you think most blokes wouldn't get a stiffy on a date with whichever hot girl/guy celebrity you care to mention.

I think your particular worldview is a little blinkered in that respect, you sincerely think everyone is not only race-aware at some subsurface level but that all these preferences and desires are innate. It's a bit silly and not borne out by studies.

[Flashball]

https://i.insider.com/4e4ea87669beddad58000019?width=600&format=jpeg&auto=webp
https://numeralpaint.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/young-anne-hathaway-paint-by-numbers.jpg
https://www.goldderby.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Anne-Hathaway-movies-ranked-Ella-Enchanted.jpg?w=620

esthetic surgery?
https://www.plasticsurgerypeople.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/anne-hathaway-nose-job.jpg


Whatever She looks Western European, but could be French also IMO

[Smitty]

That is very silly. First of all, handsome/pretty do not have inherent sexual connotations, or my grandmother was super into all her progeny. That is the word you used, so don't shift the goalposts.

Second, you can fool yourself that most whites wouldn't fuck a black, most blacks wouldn't fuck an Asian and most Asians wouldn't fuck a white but whilst I agree the preference of the average person is in-race dating, you're kidding if you think most blokes wouldn't get a stiffy on a date with whichever hot girl/guy celebrity you care to mention.

I think your particular worldview is a little blinkered in that respect, you sincerely think everyone is not only race-aware at some subsurface level but that all these preferences and desires are innate. It's a bit silly and not borne out by studies.

How am I shifting goalposts? Attractive and handsome/pretty are basically the same to me. They aren't necessarily sexually connotative, but they derive from the fact that we are a sexual species. If all human beings were self-reproducing men, do you think we would talk about whether or not we looked good? Everything would revolve around wealth or power or some other such thing, not beauty.

I'm not even talking strictly about sex. Many people, especially men, would sleep with someone they didn't think was handsome/beautiful. But if you think someone is handsome/beautiful, you at a very crude, basic level are agreeing either that you (in a hypothetical) would have sex with that person or that a large number of others would. So no, I don't think that most men would be unwilling to bed down with your average African or Amerindian, dependent on the circumstances. But I also don't think that they would call them pretty.

As for whether it's innate or not, who knows? I suspect it's more cultivated. On a tribal level, we seek to preserve our own kind, and that's best done by some degree of endogamy. As usual, you and I have managed to get down to the nitty-gritty of nothingness.

[Avgvstvs]

That's probably because you view 'Semitic traits' as der Stuermer-esque.

Most Jews don't really look Semitic, none on your list do and Johansson is paternally Danish anyway, that wasn't really the point.

IMO any Westerner with a halfway-open find finds harmonious, symmetrical features attractive in any individual.Last sentence is absolutely spot on

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[JamesBond007]

I think your particular worldview is a little blinkered in that respect, you sincerely think everyone is not only race-aware at some subsurface level but that all these preferences and desires are innate. It's a bit silly and not borne out by studies.

You had me agreeing, mostly, until that part. What ??! Almost every so called 'scientific study' ,outside of physics, is politically motivated statistical manipulation. Also, what are you implying some tabula rasa idea ?


Abstract

Summary

There is increasing concern that most current published research findings are false. The probability that a research claim is true may depend on study power and bias, the number of other studies on the same question, and, importantly, the ratio of true to no relationships among the relationships probed in each scientific field. In this framework, a research finding is less likely to be true when the studies conducted in a field are smaller; when effect sizes are smaller; when there is a greater number and lesser preselection of tested relationships; where there is greater flexibility in designs, definitions, outcomes, and analytical modes; when there is greater financial and other interest and prejudice; and when more teams are involved in a scientific field in chase of statistical significance. Simulations show that for most study designs and settings, it is more likely for a research claim to be false than true. Moreover, for many current scientific fields, claimed research findings may often be simply accurate measures of the prevailing bias. In this essay, I discuss the implications of these problems for the conduct and interpretation of research.

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https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124

[Longbowman]

How am I shifting goalposts? Attractive and handsome/pretty are basically the same to me. They aren't necessarily sexually connotative, but they derive from the fact that we are a sexual species. If all human beings were self-reproducing men, do you think we would talk about whether or not we looked good? Everything would revolve around wealth or power or some other such thing, not beauty.

I'm not even talking strictly about sex. Many people, especially men, would sleep with someone they didn't think was handsome/beautiful. But if you think someone is handsome/beautiful, you at a very crude, basic level are agreeing either that you (in a hypothetical) would have sex with that person or that a large number of others would. So no, I don't think that most men would be unwilling to bed down with your average African or Amerindian, dependent on the circumstances. But I also don't think that they would call them pretty.

As for whether it's innate or not, who knows? I suspect it's more cultivated. On a tribal level, we seek to preserve our own kind, and that's best done by some degree of endogamy. As usual, you and I have managed to get down to the nitty-gritty of nothingness.

I'm not going to repeat what I've said; it's obvious to everyone, probably including you, what I was saying. If it comforts you to think a man would happily fuck a nonwhite but not think her attractive, that's fine, we all cope in our own way. But you made a gratuitously rude comment, you were called out on it, you got defensive and now you're trying to pretend nothing happened. Be more civilised in the future and perhaps we'll have a more 'fruitful' series of conversations.

[Tooting Carmen]

That is very silly. First of all, handsome/pretty do not have inherent sexual connotations, or my grandmother was super into all her progeny. That is the word you used, so don't shift the goalposts.

Second, you can fool yourself that most whites wouldn't fuck a black, most blacks wouldn't fuck an Asian and most Asians wouldn't fuck a white but whilst I agree the preference of the average person is in-race dating, you're kidding if you think most blokes wouldn't get a stiffy on a date with whichever hot girl/guy celebrity you care to mention.

I think your particular worldview is a little blinkered in that respect, you sincerely think everyone is not only race-aware at some subsurface level but that all these preferences and desires are innate. It's a bit silly and not borne out by studies.

Yes and no. I definitely think that ethnocentrism/'racial consciousness' are more common than colourism/White worship, which are often exaggerated by both leftists and rightists for political purposes. In fact, the only parts of the non-white world which are genuinely tolerant towards mixed marriages are Latin America, the Caribbean and SE Asia (and even in all three there are dissidents too).

[Smitty]

I'm not going to repeat what I've said; it's obvious to everyone, probably including you, what I was saying. If it comforts you to think a man would happily fuck a nonwhite but not think her attractive, that's fine, we all cope in our own way. But you made a gratuitously rude comment, you were called out on it, you got defensive and now you're trying to pretend nothing happened. Be more civilised in the future and perhaps we'll have a more 'fruitful' series of conversations.

Okay, now we're getting down to brass tacks. I made a gratuitously rude comment? My original comment? It wasn't rude, much less gratuitously so. You were bothered by it because it referenced your ethnic group. Or you were trying to feel me out for any underlying antisemitism. I'm not going to apologize for the fact that (in my opinion, as is always the case when beauty is the subject) stereotypically Jewish traits are not beautiful.

[Longbowman]

Okay, now we're getting down to brass tacks. I made a gratuitously rude comment? My original comment? It wasn't rude, much less gratuitously so. You were bothered by it because it referenced your ethnic group. Or you were trying to feel me out for any underlying antisemitism. I'm not going to apologize for the fact that (in my opinion, as is always the case when beauty is the subject) stereotypically Jewish traits are not beautiful.

Yes, sure, it's not rude to go out of your way to imply an ethnic group is [negative trait]. Of course, you're American, so perhaps you sincerely believe this? At the end of the day, you're just a slightly higher-IQ version of Richmondbread. You agree on practically everything, after all.

You are free to have an opinion but some opinions are best kept to oneself, and, if shared, people might either take offense or think you're a knob. If I said 'Americans are fat and stupid' or whatever else, we all know many Americans would be annoyed and those that wouldn't be would still understand why I might get dogpiled for saying it.

[Smitty]

Yes, sure, it's not rude to go out of your way to imply an ethnic group is [negative trait]. Of course, you're American, so perhaps you sincerely believe this? At the end of the day, you're just a slightly higher-IQ version of Richmondbread. You agree on practically everything, after all.

You are free to have an opinion but some opinions are best kept to oneself, and, if shared, people might either take offense or think you're a knob. If I said 'Americans are fat and stupid' or whatever else, we all know many Americans would be annoyed and those that wouldn't be would still understand why I might get dogpiled for saying it.

People say the latter routinely on this forum, and it doesn't strike me as rude. I guess I view this forum as a place where such opinions can be shared and where people are sufficiently comfortable with the subject that they'll take it in stride. Now, if I'd said you are unattractive, that would be different. So really, you've been far ruder to me in this discussion than I have to you.

[Longbowman]

People say the latter routinely on this forum, and it doesn't strike me as rude. I guess I view this forum as a place where such opinions can be shared and where people are sufficiently comfortable with the subject that they'll take it in stride. Now, if I'd said you are unattractive, that would be different. So really, you've been far ruder to me in this discussion than I have to you.

So your argument is a sort of tu quoque: because you perceive other people have said similar, you think it's OK, even though you clearly accept it would be rude in any other given public environment, cool. And therefore, I'm the only one who's levied an insult. Neat logic.

[Smitty]

So your argument is a sort of tu quoque: because you perceive other people have said similar, you think it's OK, even though you clearly accept it would be rude in any other given public environment, cool. And therefore, I'm the only one who's levied an insult. Neat logic.

I don't accept it would be rude in any public environment. I accept that politically correct people would consider it so and some people might be offended. But people are offended everywhere, over many other things just as meaningless as whether I think Semitic features are generally attractive or not. Discussing ethnic differences period is seen as rude in the 21st century. It's all pretty relative at the end of the day. I can put up with people's negative opinions of Americans all day long. I guess my skin is thicker than some. You could have said Americans are generally unattractive, and, although I would have disagreed, I really don't think it would have bothered me much. I would have taken it as your opinion. I would not have felt personally insulted, as you apparently do here. I'm kind of amazed actually at how personally you took that.

The irony here is, you actually believe in objective beauty (i.e. symmetrical and harmonious features, which we all, if we have open minds, are supposed to consider beautiful). I think beauty is mostly subjective. So your view of beauty actually does elevate certain people. I at least allow that other ethnic and racial groups are attractive to their own kind. Whose assertion is more discriminatory and insulting? The poor person who doesn't have symmetrical features must be very offended indeed at your rude comment.

[Longbowman]

'I wouldn't find it offensive if someone said it to me, therefore, anyone else taking offence is wrong to do so, and it's perfectly fine to say it at a dinner party' and other autistic TA utterances.

This is cyclical, you said the same thing already. Yes, I am being extremely rude by mentioning facial symmetry, it's the same thing as blurting out how you find such-and-such a race bad-looking. If I said 'people tend to find people with harmonious features attractive' and you said 'I don't find black people attractive and I don't think most people do' at a dinner table with both blacks and uglies, all eyes would be on me.

[Smotrmark]

No i think

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Could pass as a light-skinned Spaniard.

"Light Skinned"

Please define Light Skinned, there are many skin complexions that are classified as light skinned. Most South Europeans (Iberians included) are naturally light skinned. There are different kinds of skin tones that are classified even as "Fair" or "Fair-ish" most South Europeans are Fair or Fair-ish skinned, Fair-ish skinned is essentially Fair skin with a slight yellowish, sometimes weirdly greyish tint. Some people call this Pale Olive, some people call it Beige, a lighter version of Beige would be Cream, which many South Euros have as well. Certain versions of Fair skin can look Pale without even being Pale either, but that's beside the point

Ann's complexion is Very Fair, aka Pale Fair. She passes as broadly European in my opinion, all the way from Greece to the United Kingdom. The people that are saying she looks "Semitic" are an utter joke, nothing about her is Armenoid, nothing about her is Orientalid. She passes the best in West Europe, could be a Dark Brit, French, Iberian, Italian etc. Could also be a Dark German as well, if there are any Jews that look like her it's the same reason that there Levantines that look like Europeans, it's because Near-Easterners overlap very well with Europeans because of how genetically close they are to Europeans. Do people seriously think the moment you leave Greece and enter Turkey there is a gigantic difference in genetics and phenotype?

No Lol.

[Nurzat]

looks very Jewish, I am actually surprised she isn't. but here and there you can see people that look a lot like ethnicities they aren't. not my favourite actress :)

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

looks very Jewish, I am actually surprised she isn't. but here and there you can see people that look a lot like ethnicities they aren't. not my favourite actress :)

What do you think Jews look like?

[Nurzat]

What do you think Jews look like?

they are quite a heterogenous group becausr living and mixing with people all around the world, I guess, so they can look like anything. but she has some more specific look that is usually linked to Jews. like some looks are more British, other more Italian etc

[Smaug]

She looks absolutely Semitic.

Well, she would never pass as a native in Spain, so nothing Semitic about her.

[Cristiano viejo]

Well, she would never pass as a native in Spain, so nothing Semitic about her.

But she would pass as a native in Italy, so everything Semitic about her.

[Smaug]

But she would pass as a native in Italy, so everything Semitic about her.

She would pass in Italy all right, precisely because she doesn’t look Semitic.

[Cristiano viejo]

She would pass in Italy all right, precisely because she doesn’t look Semitic.

Joke of the week :D

[MobyD]

She can be french

I’d imagine her phenotype is quite common there.

[Sasaolo68]

Gracile Med + Keltic Nordid

[axel.aleman]

Joke of the week :D

Only deleting doesn't of his statement, the statement would be correct

[aherne]

She looks Levantine: Jewish or (West) Syrian/Lebanese. East Med mixed with Alpine and Semitic... Extremely atypical for her ethnicity

[Xacal]

She looks French/ Southern English. Atlantid

[MobyD]

She looks Levantine: Jewish or (West) Syrian/Lebanese. East Med mixed with Alpine and Semitic... Extremely atypical for her ethnicity

You literally say this about 95% of the dark-haired, dark-eyed Western Europeans posted on here. It's rather comical at this point :p. Do her parents look remotely Levantine to you???

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/08/article-2290041-1882CC48000005DC-252_634x666.jpg

[Odelia]

To some degree. She looks like a Lebanese coworker from a while back. But the most Semitic looking who is "supposedly not being it" has to be fucking Sandra Bullock! Looks like an Israeli or something

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/64/27/64/64276486bc4cc5dc65b380487f6e430b.jpg

But most often she strikes me as a Latina/Castiza.

[MobyD]

To some degree. She looks like a Lebanese coworker from a while back. But the most Semitic looking who is "supposedly not being it" has to be fucking Sandra Bullock! Looks like an Israeli or something

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/64/27/64/64276486bc4cc5dc65b380487f6e430b.jpg

But most often she strikes me as a Latina/Castiza.

How would you classify Sandy Bullock's parents? Her mother was fully German, and her father was a typical Old Stock American (British/Irish/German/French).
https://www.cheatsheet.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/sandra-bullock-parents.jpg

[Cristiano viejo]

How would you classify Sandy Bullock's parents? Her mother was fully German, and her father was a typical Old Stock American (British/Irish/German/French).

Father looks Jewish, mother dark European.

[MobyD]

Father looks Jewish, mother dark European.

Her father does not look Jewish to me, but he could probably pass in some circles.
https://i2.wp.com/metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/sei_31054090-a696-e1537484545766.jpg

[Roy]

I don't think she's all that Jewish looking.

[Jingle Bell]

She dont looks jew, looks very French to me

[Marshall Theodore]

She doesnt looks jewish at all

[MobyD]

She does have a Jewish vibe, but then you look at her eyes, and you can realize they are too humane for such a lineage. Maybe she has a male relative that is Jewish, and prefers to hide it, so when she comes with extremely leftist autistic remarks, she doesn't attract hate on her. That will also explain her excepcional Carreer In Hollywood, despite being such an average looking, and bad actress.

Gee, you sure sound pleasant. /s

[Odelia]

How would you classify Sandy Bullock's parents? Her mother was fully German, and her father was a typical Old Stock American (British/Irish/German/French).
https://www.cheatsheet.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/sandra-bullock-parents.jpg
Mother looks dinaro-med, similar to Judge judy. Father possibly borreby verging on atlantid (hard to tell cos he's old looking). It's safe to say that she looks universally like her mother! I would drop dead if her mother has latino ancestry. You can clearly see it in Sandra. But again, Jews do have pseudo latino look.

[Avgvstvs]

To some degree. She looks like a Lebanese coworker from a while back. But the most Semitic looking who is "supposedly not being it" has to be fucking Sandra Bullock! Looks like an Israeli or something

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/64/27/64/64276486bc4cc5dc65b380487f6e430b.jpg

But most often she strikes me as a Latina/Castiza.Wtf


She used to be one of the most beautiful women in the world, according to my taste, but she doesn't look levantine at all.

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[MobyD]

Mother looks dinaro-med, similar to Judge judy. Father possibly borreby verging on atlantid (hard to tell cos he's old looking). It's safe to say that she looks universally like her mother! I would drop dead if her mother has latino ancestry. You can clearly see it in Sandra. But again, Jews do have pseudo latino look.

No offense, but you sound very biased. When have you seen a Dinaro-Med with her mother’s bone structure?

[Pro.crasti.nation]

I guess the big mouth is what makes her "look semitic" but, to me she just looks Italian-ish.

[MobyD]

I guess the big mouth is what makes her "look semitic" but, to me she just looks Italian-ish.

An Irish/Italian mix to be precise.

[Cristiano viejo]

I guess the big mouth is what makes her "look semitic" but, to me she just looks Italian-ish.

Bigh mouth, teeth, ears and eyes.

[Odelia]

Wtf


She used to be one of the most beautiful women in the world, according to my taste, but she doesn't look levantine at all.

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I grant you that she's very unique looking. Maybe not levantine, but definitely Jewish looking. Ashkenazi at fucking best. Not sure why that is shocking to you. There are people who look legit whiter than her that are fucking Jewish - Jason Isaacs, Scarlett Johansen, Gwyneth Paltrow, Winona Ryder, Pink, Patricia Arquette, Jennifer Connelly, etc. And you're telling me Sandra stands out? Besides, Jewish is too white for her too! She looks Latina. She looks hard as one! A Latino with more white ancestry in her. Who gives a shit?


No offense, but you sound very biased. When have you seen a Dinaro-Med with her mother’s bone structure?
Biased? I'm not even dinaro-med nor do i associate Italians with that. Phenotypes is mostly bullshit anyway. Her father looked alpine med, but once you saw more pics of him he began to look borreby. Fuck this phenotype shit. Phenotypes aside, she passes easily as a south Italian. If not then what the fuck do you see her as, German too cos that's what they claim to be? :bored:

[Avgvstvs]

I grant you that she's very unique looking. Maybe not levantine, but definitely Jewish looking. Ashkenazi at fucking best. Not sure why that is shocking to you. There are people who look legit whiter than her that are fucking Jewish - Jason Isaacs, Scarlett Johansen, Gwyneth Paltrow, Winona Ryder, Pink, Patricia Arquette, Jennifer Connelly, etc. And you're telling me Sandra stands out? Besides, Jewish is too white for her too! She looks Latina. She looks hard as one! A Latino with more white ancestry in her. Who gives a shit?


Biased? I'm not even dinaro-med nor do i associate Italians with that. Phenotypes is mostly bullshit anyway. Her father looked alpine med, but once you saw more pics of him he began to look borreby. Fuck this phenotype shit. Phenotypes aside, she passes easily as a south Italian. If not then what the fuck do you see her as, German too cos that's what they claim to be? :bored:How many latinamericans have you seen? I bet not many according to your opinion on Sandra.
She is unique but she just looks european and yes, also ashkenazi since many of them pass easily as european so I don't know what you're talking about, with all due respect.

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[Odelia]

How many latinamericans have you seen? I bet not many according to your opinion on Sandra.
She is unique but she just looks european and yes, also ashkenazi since many of them pass easily as european so I don't know what you're talking about, with all due respect.

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Don't give me that "how many [insert ethnicity] you seen?" cop-out shit. It doesn't go anywhere cos you'll never know. At least show me evidence with photos and disprove my point. Fucking Sofia Vergara is whiter than her and she's latina. You have no idea how Latinos look cos you're in Italy I presume. You stereotype them as Jennifer Lopez looking. Ever heard of white Latinos? :coffee:

She can pass as a 85% Euro, 15% native in Colombia or Argentina. In fact, that's how she fucking looks. Pseudo or not...!

https://deadline.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sofia-vergara-diego-luna.jpg?w=630
^She's phenotypically halfway between these two Latinos


She does have a Jewish vibe, but then you look at her eyes, and you can realize they are too humane for such a lineage. Maybe she has a male relative that is Jewish, and prefers to hide it, so when she comes with extremely leftist autistic remarks, she doesn't attract hate on her. That will also explain her excepcional Carreer In Hollywood, despite being such an average looking, and bad actress.
You're not just a horny creepy lesbian getting of to 19 year old girls, you're also anti-Semitic. Such a nice start...:bored:

[Odelia]

I'm 28, a guy, interested in a long range if women of multiple ages, including a few years ago, Morgan Fairchild at the age of 62, and Maribel Guardia, over 50.

Can you please stop talking bullshit? Jews are the real anti senutrs, they wanna kill all Arabs in their territory. And if you knew something about Jews and what they are doing tp Europe, you would be against them too. Please, stop sharing your ignorance.
I wholeheartedly take back lesbian then! You're a horny old Arab, probably anti-gay and anti-women. Your love for young chicks kinda show that you're perverted and you get off to having 4 wives probably. No wonder I disliked you from the start. You were always shady and unpleasantly so! Some Jews are no angels for sure, but Arab (and even Iranic) Muslims have done the worst atrocities in the Middle East, from throwing gays off roofs to subjugating women. Please shut the fuck up and don't you dare defend the devil in front of me. Arabs are far from angels as their governments go. You're crying over them like they're the Amish or something! Also, don't write anti-Jewish crap to pander to the white people in here. You're an Arab and they you hate equally, hunnybun. :picard2:

Jews don't worship a pedophilic warlord btw and cut off people's heads if they're Christian, atheist or gay. Oh and dumbass, Muslims are ruining Europe actually. Not Jews. Your bias is fucking hilarious! :coffee: Go figure.

[Anglo-Celtic]

Your love for young chicks kinda show that you're perverted/

The dude likes Morgan Fairchild, so he's not really robbing the cradle. He's robbing the Craftmatic.

[JamesBond007]

I wholeheartedly take back lesbian then! You're a horny old Arab, probably anti-gay and anti-women. Your love for young chicks kinda show that you're perverted and you get off to having 4 wives probably. No wonder I disliked you from the start. You were always shady and unpleasantly so! Some Jews are no angels for sure, but Arab (and even Iranic) Muslims have done the worst atrocities in the Middle East, from throwing gays off roofs to subjugating women. Please shut the fuck up and don't you dare defend the devil in front of me. Arabs are far from angels as their governments go. You're crying over them like they're the Amish or something! Also, don't write anti-Jewish crap to pander to the white people in here. You're an Arab and they you hate equally, hunnybun. :picard2:

Jews don't worship a pedophilic warlord btw and cut off people's heads if they're Christian, atheist or gay. Oh and dumbass, Muslims are ruining Europe actually. Not Jews. Your bias is fucking hilarious! :coffee: Go figure.

"The Jew uses every possible means to undermine the racial foundations of a subjugated people. In his systematic efforts to ruin girls and women he strives to break down the last barriers of discrimination between him and other peoples. The Jews were responsible for bringing negroes into the Rhineland, with the ultimate idea of bastardizing the white race which they hate and thus lowering its cultural and political level so that the Jew might dominate. For as long as a people remain racially pure and are conscious of the treasure of their blood, they can never be overcome by the Jew. Never in this world can the Jew become master of any people except a bastardized people" --Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf: Chapter XI: Race and People



During the 20th century, the United States Congress passed many laws that negatively affected White Americans in one way or another. However, none of those laws delivered as much cultural damage to White America as did two back-to-back laws passed in the mid-1960s: the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Immigration and Nationality Act Amendments of 1965.

The purpose of this essay is to show that people of a certain ethnicity were instrumental in the creation of the 1964 and 1965 laws.

Background

In the late 1950s, a civil-rights revolution spread throughout America - including within the U.S. government in Washington, D.C. Various legislative proposals, all designed to benefit racial minorities in one way or another, were tossed around by lobbyists, Senators and Representatives. Throughout the country, civil-rights groups demanded the passage of laws that would give minorities equal rights.

Although America's civil-rights groups appeared to be led by Blacks, in reality they were usually led -- or at least steered -- by Jews. Most of the men who founded the NAACP were jews, and for decades it had a jew as president. Martin Luther King Jr.'s chief advisor was jew Stanley Levison. The major civil-rights groups were funded mainly by Jewish donations. Furthermore, important civil-rights cases were argued and won in the courts by skilled Jewish lawyers. For example Jack Greenberg, who was a key figure surrounding the historic Brown v. Board of Education decision of 1954. Another Jewish attorney, Nathan Margold, produced the in-depth report that became the NAACP's blueprint for its legal strategy in outlawing racial segregation. In fact, it could be said that the Margold report virtually ended racial segregation in America.

The stage for the civil-rights revolution within the federal government was set by Jewish Congressman Emanuel Celler (D-NY), via his groundbreaking Civil Rights Act of 1957, the first civil-rights law since the Civil War era. Celler wrote and sponsored the Civil Rights Act of 1957, which came from his House bill, H.R.6127, which was signed into law by President Eisenhower in September 1957. That law led to other minority-benefiting laws, including the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Congressman Celler was a powerful force in the creation of the major civil-rights laws, the main reason being that, during the late 1950s/early 1960s, civil-rights advocates had learned to "use" the House of Representatives to advance their legislation. Thanks to Celler's chairmanship of certain House committees, civil-rights bills sailed through the House. Furthermore, civil-rights advocates were often able to use Congressional rules to allow their bills to bypass anti-civil-rights committees in the Senate, which increased the chances of their legislation becoming law. In other words, the House of Representatives was the "secret weapon" that was used by civil-rights advocates to create civil-rights laws, and Celler was the gatekeeper, so to speak, on the path that was taken by the civil-rights bills as they moved around the House.

Now we will highlight the 1964 and 1965 Acts, beginning with the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Part I: the Civil Rights Act of 1964

Do you know why a private employer must -- by law -- hire Blacks, Mexicans and women? If you don't, the reason is: the Civil Rights Act of 1964 - specifically Title VII of that Act, which outlawed any type of discrimination in employment. In other words, with the passage of that Act, private employers were no longer free to hire whom they wanted. In the name of freedom and civil rights, the Constitution was subverted, and genuine civil rights were taken away.

That 1964 Act, which came from Congressman Celler's House bill H.R.7152, was introduced in Congress on June 20, 1963, and signed into law by President Lyndon Johnson on July 2, 1964. It is the most far-reaching civil-rights law ever created in America. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 created, among other things, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), which penalizes private businesses if they don't hire a certain number of racial minorities or women. The EEOC today functions as a medium through which organized coloreds can exact tribute from hard-working white men and the companies they found. The real "civil right" the 1964 act created was the right of the jewish bureaucrat and the black man to shake down the hated white.

It is worth mentioning that President John F. Kennedy was sort of responsible for the 1964 Act. He proposed a new, upgraded civil-rights law in the summer of 1963 and submitted it to Congress. The end result of that was Celler's bill H.R.7152, which was actually a stronger civil-rights bill than Kennedy wanted. (The idea for a strong civil-rights bill did not come from Kennedy himself but from many others, including the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights [see below] and Senator Hubert Humphrey).[1]

Many people feel that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is unconstitutional. They feel that it infringes on private-property rights by forcing private businesses to bend to the federal government's employment rules, and that it violates states' rights, since it compels the government to involve itself in civil-rights matters within the various states. The law also clearly infringes upon the freedom of association desires of White people. In effect it became illegal for whites to protect themselves from blacks, or in any way to refrain from mixing with them. Today anyone who calls for a return of the true civil right of free association will be attacked by the media as a racist who wants to return to the bad old days before civil rights.

It is true that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed by gentiles in Congress, and signed into law by a gentile as well. But that Act needed to be conceived, written and lobbied-for first -- otherwise it would never have come into being. That's where these notable Jews came in:

Arnold Aronson (1911-1998) was founder and leader of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights (LCCR).2 The LCCR, a powerful coalition of political and religious groups, organized major, countrywide lobbying efforts to aid passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Aronson was an icon within the Black civil rights movement. He received an award from President Bill Clinton, the Presidential Medal of Freedom, for his civil-rights work. Indeed, civil-rights activist Clarence Mitchell Jr. once noted: "There would not have been a civil rights movement without the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights and there would not have been a Leadership Conference on Civil Rights without (Arnold) Aronson." LCCR has been called the "chief lobbying force" for the 1960s civil-rights acts.[3] Curiously, the building occupied by the LCCR was owned by a Jewish organization.[4] The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was written at the Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism in Washington, D.C., under the watch of the LCCR.

Now we again mention Congressman Celler (1888-1981). Not only did Celler introduce the Civil Rights Act of 1964 into Congress, he oversaw the general creation of the Act within two committees in the U.S. House of Representatives. Celler not only chaired the Judiciary Committee but also House subcommittee No. 5, which considered H.R.7152 [5]. Subcommittee No. 5 was said to be the "most aggressive" entity in strengthening H.R.7152 [6]. Furthermore, Celler handpicked some of the members of Subcommittee #5, ensuring that the 1964 Act had plenty of "teeth"; and he also was the floor manager in the House during debate on H.R.7152. Additionally, Celler put more teeth into H.R.7152 than were needed, in case the bill was watered-down later by its opponents - which it was, via a compromise bill called a "clean bill," which was the same bill with a few words changed to ensure more Congressional support for it. Celler employed tricks to get H.R.7152 through Congress, such as using a discharge petition to aid passage of the bill through the congressional committees. Of significance is that Celler lied about the intent of the 1964 Act when he denied that it would prevent employers from hiring whom they wanted:

"[T]he charge has been made that the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission to be established by title VII of the bill would have the power to prevent a business from employing and promoting the people it wished, and that a 'Federal inspector' could then order the hiring and promotion only of employees of certain races or religious groups. This description of the bill is entirely wrong..." [7]

Celler had a long record of pro-civil-rights activity in Congress. In fact, Celler could be called one of the biggest Congressional cheerleaders for legislation that somehow benefited racial minorities.

And finally, the main author of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was Jewish assistant attorney general Norbert A. Schlei (1929-2003). (Schlei also wrote the Voting Rights Act of 1965).

1. On Kennedy as being prompted by others to shift to a stronger civil-rights stance, see the essay "A Brief History of the Civil Rights Act of 1964," by Robert D. Loevy; online at: https://web.archive.org/web/20081208235112/http://faculty1.coloradocollege.edu/%7Ebloevy/CivilRightsActOf1964/

2. Aronson is also called a "co-founder" of LCCR - a significant understatement. For example, the City College of New York mentioned, on its website, that one of its students received an Arnold Aronson Fellowship, a fellowship that is "named for the LCCR's founder."

3. On LCCR as chief lobbying force see "Papers of the NAACP, Part 13, 1940-1955," preface titled "Scope and Content Note," page xi

4. On LCCR building as being owned by the Union of American Hebrew Congregations, see Broken Alliance: the Turbulent Times Between Blacks and Jews in America. (New York; Charles Scribner's Sons); by Jonathan Kaufman; p. 98.

5. On Celler as heading both the House Judiciary Committee and House Subcommittee No. 5, see article "LBJ Champions the Civil Rights Act of 1964" by Ted Gittinger and Allen Fisher; U.S. National Archives & Records Administration, Summer 2004; and "The Background And Setting of the Civil Rights Act of 1964," Chapter 1, by Robert D. Loevy, online.

[6] On subcommittee #5 as the most aggressive entity in stiffening the 1964 Act, see working paper "Southern Roots of the New Right: John C. Stennis and Federal School Desegregation, 1954-1972," by Joseph Crespino; online; to be formally published in 2006.

[7] from the opening speech in support of H.R.7152, made by Celler on the House floor, June 1963

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Part II: the Immigration and Nationality Act Amendments of 1965 (aka the Hart-Celler Act, the Immigration Act of 1965, and the Immigration Reform Act of 1965)

Like the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the idea for serious immigration reform appeared to the public to have come from President John F. Kennedy. After all, Kennedy had officially called for the reform of America's immigration laws in a letter that he presented to Congress on July 23, 1963.

A liberal immigration law, the Hart-Celler Act of 1965 -- which came from House bill H.R.2580 -- was written by Congressman Celler and gentile Senator Philip A. Hart (D-MI; 1912-1976), although Celler acted as the pointman for the Act by introducing it into Congress in January 1965. (Only Celler was mentioned by President Lyndon Johnson when he signed the Hart-Celler Act into law in October 1965, which highlights Celler's major -- as opposed to Hart's minor -- involvement in the creation of the Act. It seems as though Celler simply used Hart as a co-sponsor of the bill).[1]

Celler had a long history of advocating liberal immigration laws, so much so that he was the subject of a 1994 research paper bearing the telling subtitle "Leading Advocate of Liberal Immigration Policy."[2]

The Hart-Celler Act amended the McCarran-Walter immigration act of 1952. The McCarran-Walter law had mandated that immigrants be admitted into America based on their national origin. The Hart-Celler law abolished the national-origin rule and replaced it with family reunification, aka chain immigration, i.e. the close relatives of immigrants already living in America were allowed to immigrate to the U.S. as well.

For his part, Senator Hart worked closely with a group called the American Immigration and Citizenship Conference in an effort to get the 1965 Act passed. That Conference included 12 Jewish groups and the heavily-Jewish ACLU.

The Hart-Celler Act significantly changed the ethnic make-up of immigration into America. Before the Act was passed, the majority of immigrants coming to America was White. After the Act, the majority of immigrant arrivals was non-White (roughly 80% of the immigrants came to the U.S. from non-White countries). In other words, the 1965 Act reversed the racial make-up of immigration into America.

Jewish Senator Jacob Javits (1904-1986) also played a key role in the creation of the Hart-Celler Act. And Jewish attorney Schlei (see Part I above) conceived the idea of putting a "first come, first served" immigration rule into the Act, to replace the previous national-origins rule [3].

(Revealingly, an action by Jewish Senator Herbert H. Lehman (1878-1963) -- the son of an immigrant and a major player in pro-immigration legislation -- showed how important the issue of immigration reform can be to Jews: in the early 1950s, in what might be described as 'Jewish networking on immigration matters,' Lehman helped to install a Jew, Harry Rosenfield, as the executive director of the President's Commission on Immigration and Naturalization. Then Lehman, his Jewish aid and Rosenfield endeavored to help pro-immigration Congressmen with matters pertaining to the liberalization of immigration laws. The chairman of the President's Commission on Immigration and Naturalization was also a Jew, Philip Perlman. And telling of Jewish attitudes toward the McCarran-Walter law were Senator Lehman's remarks that it had a "racist" and "xenophobic" aura. Apparently for Lehman, a post-WWII Zionist, such an aura surrounding immigration law was okay in Israel, but not in America.)

Powerful Jewish organizations also greatly aided the passage of Hart-Celler by, for example, issuing formal statements of support for the Act to the Congressional committees. Both the Anti-Defamation League and the American Jewish Committee played "major" roles in supporting the Act [4].

The Hart-Celler Act has, in just a few decades, transformed America into a mixed-race country teeming with Africans, Asians, and Latinos. And that was exactly what the American Jewish community intended all along, since Jews can theoretically avoid "anti-Semitism" by blending into racially-diverse populations.[5]

1. Celler mentioned as co-authoring the 1965 Act: the President's Initiative On Race, Advisory Board, Meeting, held at the Mayflower Hotel, Washington, D.C., September 30, 1997, in the recorded minutes of the meeting. (Note: contains a typo in the mention of Celler's name.)

2. "Emanuel Celler of Brooklyn: Leading Advocate of Liberal Immigration Policy, 1945-52," by Bernard Lemelin, Canadian Review of American Studies, vol. 24, No 1 (1994), pp. 81-111

3. On Schlei conceiving the "first come, first served" idea: paper "Old Blood, New Blood, Weak Blood: The Nature of U.S. Immigration Laws" by Ronald Fernandez, Ph.D., Central Connecticut State University, Occasional Paper No. 63, July 2001

4. On the Anti-Defamation League and the American Jewish Committee's role in the 1965 Act: essay "Jews And Immigration: Steinlight Soldiers On," by Marcus Epstein; published online at VDARE's website, June 19, 2004.

5. Regarding Jews and immigration policy, see Dr. Kevin MacDonald's report "Jewish Involvement in Shaping American Immigration Policy, 1881-1965: A Historical Review" (1998); online at https://web.archive.org/web/20100604020536/http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/books-immigration.html


Summary

In the late 1950s/early 1960s, a political movement appeared in America demanding that new laws be created to benefit racial minorities and liberalize immigration laws. That political movement spawned two important laws: the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Immigration and Nationality Act Amendments of 1965.

Whites in Congress passed those laws, but Jews laid the foundation for the laws, built the laws, and lobbied for them, both inside and outside of Congress. Jews took advantage of standard White benevolence and used Whites to help them pass those laws not because the Jews necessarily cared about the welfare of Blacks and non-White immigrants, but because the Jews wanted to make their new home safe from "anti-Semitism." The Jews -- always a clever people -- knew that they could go unnoticed in a multicultural America, and in recent years they have (almost). Whether the multiculturalizing-of-America-to-benefit-the-Jews was good for Whites was beside the point, for as the late President Harry Truman said, the Jews are "very, very selfish."

The 1964/1965 Acts damaged America's White culture like no other laws in U.S. history. In fact, the odds are that they damaged American culture beyond repair. Thanks to those acts, the United States has gone from being a White republic to being a racial "melting-pot" (a term coined by the late Jewish writer Israel Zangwill), a "democracy" of racial and gender "equality," a place in which Blacks, Mexicans and Asians vote for minority or female politicians; a place in which the government decides who you may hire; a place in which White women commute over long distances to work in big-city office buildings instead of raising children at home. Jews, as the prime mover behind these two malignant acts, bear a heavy responsibility for the cultural debasement that those laws produced for White America.

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Don't give me that "how many [insert ethnicity] you seen?" cop-out shit. It doesn't go anywhere cos you'll never know. At least show me evidence with photos and disprove my point. Fucking Sofia Vergara is whiter than her and she's latina. You have no idea how Latinos look cos you're in Italy I presume. You stereotype them as Jennifer Lopez looking. Ever heard of white Latinos? :coffee:

She can pass as a 85% Euro, 15% native in Colombia or Argentina. In fact, that's how she fucking looks. Pseudo or not...!

https://deadline.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sofia-vergara-diego-luna.jpg?w=630
^She's phenotypically halfway between these two Latinos


You're not just a horny creepy lesbian getting of to 19 year old girls, you're also anti-Semitic. Such a nice start...:bored:Really? Sandra looks what she is, a beautiful woman of european heritage. She has german/irish(and/or british) ancestry so from central and northwestern europe. There's plenty of english and german people with dark hair and even with dark eyes, and i say that because i bet that if she was blonde and blue eyed you wouldn't be saying that.

Sofia Vergara "whiter"(more european looking if I recall correctly) than Sandra Bullock? Nice trolling.




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Really? Sandra looks what she is, a beautiful woman of european heritage. She has german/irish(and/or british) ancestry so from central and northwestern europe. There's plenty of english and german people with dark hair and even with dark eyes, and i say that because i bet that if she was blonde and blue eyed you wouldn't be saying that.

Sofia Vergara "whiter"(more european looking if I recall correctly) than Sandra Bullock? Nice trolling.
What a biased dumbass! First of all you dumb idiot, she is very beautiful. Maybe not as Natalie Portman, but she is pretty. Being Latino admixed doesn't mean you're fucking ugly. And yes, there are English and Germans with dark hair and dark eyes, they would look like this:

https://hips.hearstapps.com/ghk.h-cdn.co/assets/cm/15/11/550057e79ed11-rb-dmg-elizabethred-001-de.jpg
https://emilyvancamp.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/emily-vancamp-blog-the-beauty-book-for-brain-cancer-2011.jpg

Not like this with clear Levantine/Latino features:
https://cdn.fansshare.com/photo/sandrabullock/sandra-bullock-without-makeup-1770538357.jpg

Yeah you biased dumbass, Vergara and even the half Costa Rican Madeleine Stow look more European than her (just give up your stupid bias):

https://hips.hearstapps.com/digitalspyuk.cdnds.net/17/23/1496675989-madeleine-stowe-young.jpg

If Sofia Vergara was called Sophie Vaughn and claimed English, Irish and German ancestry, you'd laugh in my fucking face if I said "hey she kinda looks Latino". Get bent idiot! :picard2:

https://images.indianexpress.com/2021/08/Sofia-Vergara-1200.jpg
https://www.hecklerspray.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/sofia_vergara_without-makeup-2.jpg

Compare her to euromutt Jessica Biel:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1f/be/a5/1fbea5a490842e20856dfc665c41d5dd.jpg

Clean up your biases. I may troll but at least I'm not a biased and blind person! :coffee:

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If Sofia Vergara was called Sophie Vaughn and claimed English, Irish and German ancestry, you'd laugh in my fucking face if I said "hey she kinda looks Latino". Get bent idiot! :picard2:

I'd say that, yes, because she actually looks it.

Sandra Bullock is as latina as you're italian, very little.

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