Would Mariah Carey or Beyonce pass better as Dominican?

[Tooting Carmen]

Mariah
https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5f765e140dc8c6b15b61c773/2:2/w_1098,h_1098,c_limit/Lordi-MariahCarey.jpghttps://consequenceofsound.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/mariah-carey-alternative-rock-album-1995-chick.jpg?quality=80&w=807

Beyonce
https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/672/cf7/85d3ba4e43f8f14febc16d2643f2419b0d-beyonce.rvertical.w1200.jpghttps://www.britannica.com/explore/100women/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2019/02/Beyonce.jpg

[Daven]

I see African Americans features in Beyonce but she is passable. Mariah is passable too. I don't know.

[Tooting Carmen]

I see African Americans features in Beyonce but she is passable. Mariah is passable too. I don't know.

Beyonce isn't that far removed from the Dominican norm, surely? Her ex-bandmate Michelle would certainly be much more borderline.

[Daven]

Beyonce isn't that far removed from the Dominican norm, surely? Her ex-bandmate Michelle would certainly be much more borderline.

Yes her range is super common.

I happen to think she looked more passable when younger. Now she looks more African American (lighter type). Still can pass easy like I said. Remember I'm being observant. Nobody would think she's a foreigner LMAO.

We have some very light black Americans here and a lot of times people ask them for directions in Spanish. Older hispanos who barely speak the language do this all the time haha

[Andullero]

Both in equal measure.

[Daven]

Ciara and Halle Berry are two African Americans that look super Dominican. It's funny because I have met people that looks almost exactly like them. There was this computer lab supervisor in the first years of college that was pretty much a clone of the latter. That's was when Berry was hot/super popular. Imagine that. The lady then gained weight and she didn't get as much. Another classmate of mine looked like Ciara, etc.

Beyonce's mother I think looks Dominican too.

[Tooting Carmen]

Ciara and Halle Berry are two African Americans that look super Dominican. It's funny because I have met people that looks almost exactly like them. There was this computer lab supervisor in the first years of college that was pretty much a clone of the latter. That's was when Berry was hot/super popular. Imagine that. The lady then gained weight and she didn't get as much. Another classmate of mine looked like Ciara, etc.

Beyonce's mother I think looks Dominican too.

Halle Berry is half-White. LOL.

[Andullero]

Halle Berry is half-White. LOL.

Given that virtually no afram is a 100% SSA, it is almost a given that Halle must be on the terceron range (30-40% SSA).

[Tooting Carmen]

Given that virtually no afram is a 100% SSA, it is almost a given that Halle must be on the terceron range (30-40% SSA).

Granted, the majority of African-Americans do score some Euro. Still, they don't really compare at all to Afro-Latinos in this - as former user Heather Duval said, most African-Americans are actually pretty dark, don't necessarily look like some of their cherrypicked celebrities, and would be a lot darker-skinned than the norm even in Rio's favelas.

[Tooting Carmen]

Both of Beyonce's parents have got interesting phenotypes - while the mother does look Hispanic Caribbean, the father looks almost like a dark-skinned South Indian:
https://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/knowlesfamily.jpg

[Daven]

Halle Berry is half-White. LOL.

Halle identifies as BLACK. Also she is not outside the African American spectrum at all. If anything many were shocked to learn she was half white back in the 90s.
Halle pretty much looks mulatta (like a real balanced mulatta). Her black dad looks fully SSA. I'm sure he was over 92% African because is super common for African American to be in that range (in fact four times more common than those who score lower than 60% negroid).

Look, 20% of them are over 90%. africano.

https://i.imgur.com/9Y6uhsW.png

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Halle's dad. Could pass in sub-Saharan African damn easily.

https://www.arogundade.com/Resources/halle-berry-father.jpg


Given that virtually no afram is a 100% SSA, it is almost a given that Halle must be on the terceron range (30-40% SSA).

Bro nooooo

Look at her dad and graphs I posted. How dare youuu

[Tooting Carmen]

Many if not most biracials in the US identify as Black for social and political reasons.

[Daven]

They also do it for convenience. Identifying as black will make you gain more appealing in entertainment. There was this Dominican girl named Danileigh who came out 30% African and her black fans were upset the other day because she wasn't identifying as black back then.

FOH.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/4f/4f/e2/4f4fe2adf16277d46ef668e3ed331bd6.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

They also do it for convenience. Identifying as black will make you gain more appealing in entertainment. There was this Dominican girl named Danileigh who came out 30% African and her black fans were upset the other day because she wasn't identifying as black back then.

Now tell me if this looks you. FOH.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/4f/4f/e2/4f4fe2adf16277d46ef668e3ed331bd6.jpg

Mixed and ambiguous, but definitely not my idea of Black.

[Daven]

Halsey and Veronica Vega identify as black too LMAO. Two white bitchez bwahaha

[Tooting Carmen]

Halsey and Veronica Vega identify as black too LMAO. Two white bitchez bwahaha

OWD in reverse. Who knew? xD

[Daven]

I can't with Miami accent LMAO

We're all black bitch 1:32


https://youtu.be/XFC_iF4LUm0

[Daven]

Mixed and ambiguous, but definitely not my idea of Black.

I follow her dad on Instagram. He told me the mom is from Santo Domingo and that he was from Santiago.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/YPCNa7A7Vn8/hqdefault.jpg

https://thenetline.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/DaniLeigh-parent.jpg

Look at her sister and brother

https://numberily.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Brianna-Leah.jpg

https://s2.dmcdn.net/v/RsUMX1UCy5F3RYWpO/x720

https://www.thehandbook.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=300,height=300,fit=cover,q=85/https://files.thehandbook.com/uploads/2021/01/129722690-322109372110728-3903739401258786013-n.jpg

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[Tooting Carmen]

I follow her dad on Instagram. He told me the mom is from Santo Domingo and that he was from Santiago.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/YPCNa7A7Vn8/hqdefault.jpg

https://thenetline.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/DaniLeigh-parent.jpg

Look at her sister and brother

https://numberily.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Brianna-Leah.jpg

https://s2.dmcdn.net/v/RsUMX1UCy5F3RYWpO/x720

https://www.thehandbook.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=300,height=300,fit=cover,q=85/https://files.thehandbook.com/uploads/2021/01/129722690-322109372110728-3903739401258786013-n.jpg

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/56c346b607eaa09d9189a870/1617929703220-Y028SGE3LKG1ATWDQ7MA/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kLkXF2pIyv_F2eUT9F60jBl7gQa3H7 8H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLf rh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0iyqMbMesKd95J-X4EagrgU9L3Sa3U8cogeb0tjXbfawd0urKshkc5MgdBeJmALQK w/image.jpg

The siblings look terceron-ish. The father (at least when bald) is yet another Dominican who looks pseudo-South Asian.

[Daven]

The dad has a look that is super common here. I would spot him right away.

You won't give your opinion about the videos?

[Daven]

1:01 I'm black.. I'm absolutely black. This girl is a Miami Cuban btw. LMAO.


https://youtu.be/haL4tiGheB0

[Daven]

Mariah also identifies as black.

[Daven]

Granted, the majority of African-Americans do score some Euro. Still, they don't really compare at all to Afro-Latinos in this - as former user Heather Duval said, most African-Americans are actually pretty dark, don't necessarily look like some of their cherrypicked celebrities, and would be a lot darker-skinned than the norm even in Rio's favelas.

60% of African Americans are over 80% African by DNA.

The second most common range among them is between 60%-79% SSA (35% of all African Americans are in this range). This is where you see the lightest types.

Only 5% of African Americans are less than 60% African.

[Hoosierboy]

Both of Beyonce's parents have got interesting phenotypes - while the mother does look Hispanic Caribbean, the father looks almost like a dark-skinned South Indian:
https://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/knowlesfamily.jpg

Dark skinned south Indian? :picard1::rotfl:

[Tooting Carmen]

bump

[Daven]

Dark skinned south Indian? :picard1::rotfl:

That phenotype pops up among African Americans a lot. It's not an unusual look among at all.

[alnortedelsur]

Both would pass, but Beyonce even better.