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Contra Mundum
10-14-2011, 08:52 AM
http://www.france-info.com/local/cache-vignettes/L253xH345/mussolini-jpg-0c487.jpg
http://images.pearsoned-ema.com/jpeg/large/9780582065956.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_uIwtFAynZKg/TISltZgGAsI/AAAAAAAABFY/e_vfWdaXN2I/s1600/mussolini.gif
http://www.iiipublishing.com/politics/fascism/images/benito_mussolini.jpg
BanjaLuka
10-14-2011, 09:28 AM
Alpinized Med./ Cro-Magnon :shrug:
Artek
10-14-2011, 09:58 AM
Alpinized Med./ Cro-Magnon :shrug:
Alpine +Med/Dinarcized Med
Mordid
10-14-2011, 10:00 AM
Pred. Borreby/Cromagnoid with Med and Dinarid influences
BanjaLuka
10-14-2011, 10:09 AM
I think it would be interesting to make comparison between him and another very robust Italian :
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Acaponeh.jpg
http://johngushue.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451f25369e20120a854a3f5970b-800wi
Mordid
10-14-2011, 10:14 AM
I think it would be interesting to make comparison between him and another very robust Italian :
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Acaponeh.jpg
http://johngushue.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451f25369e20120a854a3f5970b-800wi
That one is more Alpinid in comparison with
significant Armenid influence, especially lower lip.
alzo zero
10-14-2011, 10:27 AM
I think it would be interesting to make comparison between him and another very robust Italian :
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Acaponeh.jpg
http://johngushue.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451f25369e20120a854a3f5970b-800wi
This guy is simply fat. This "famous Italian" is very heavily Med and much unlike Mussolini there's nothing CM or Alpinid in him.
BanjaLuka
10-14-2011, 10:30 AM
This guy is simply fat. This "famous Italian" is very heavily Med and much unlike Mussolini there's nothing CM or Alpinid in him.
He was big guy for his time and in his prime with height of 180 cm and very robust build, later he got fat.
When he was young and fit:
http://www.lacndb.com/php/America/Al%20Capone%20young.jpg
http://www.lacndb.com/php/America/Al%20Capone%20consults%20attorney.jpg
http://www.dark-horse.co.uk/capone/images/caponeteen.GIF
http://i.pgcdn.com/muze_images/books/8/53/9781616080853_260x260.jpg
Libertas
10-14-2011, 12:08 PM
Alpine +Med/Dinarcized Med
There are traces of both groups but he is more Alpine.
Ouistreham
10-14-2011, 01:53 PM
Alpine +Med/Dinarcized Med
There are traces of both groups but he is more Alpine.
Spot on.
Note that this description can also apply to Silvio Berlusconi, who impersonates (in a less robust version) the same kind of Mediterranized Alpinid with a slight hint of Dinarism.
French rugby player William Servat has a sort of Mussolinian face but he's a sort of 100% Alpinid stereotype, with a lower rooted nose and without the distinctively Dinarid flattened area behind his skull. Compare:
http://s.tf1.fr/mmdia/i/88/4/william-servat-10531884bmjve_1879.jpg
http://www.toulouse7.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/William_Servat1.jpg
CelticViking
03-17-2012, 02:41 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-u8d0eXAOW7o/TagLhDBqnjI/AAAAAAAACo8/DW8lXZb4FgI/s1600/benito+mussolini_only_pic.jpg
http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/M/Benito-Mussolini-9419443-2-402.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/67/Mussolini_biografia.jpg
StonyArabia
03-17-2012, 02:47 AM
looks like FlintLock
Flintlocke
03-17-2012, 11:27 AM
Nah, he was a better "playa" than me ;)
Dr. van Winkle
03-17-2012, 11:44 AM
Pred. Taurid (Dinarid-Armenoid) with Mediterranid and slight Alpinoid influences.
Dinaro-Armenoid Anatolian Turks:
http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe402.jpg
http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe403.jpg
Mediterranid Italian (after Biasutti):
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/6356/mediterraniditalian.jpg
Nordo-Mediterranid Englishman:
http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe282.jpg
med + dinarid @ Mussolini
Pallantides
08-14-2012, 01:31 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/90/Benito_Mussolini_mugshot_1903.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-U0qQoSHgMlI/T8fA6rcjyOI/AAAAAAAAAH4/foZ8s3F759E/s1600/Benito_Mussolini_1917.jpg
Libertas
08-14-2012, 07:31 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/90/Benito_Mussolini_mugshot_1903.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-U0qQoSHgMlI/T8fA6rcjyOI/AAAAAAAAAH4/foZ8s3F759E/s1600/Benito_Mussolini_1917.jpg
Great photos.
He looks more Dinaricised Med in these.
Notice the sign which calls him Benedetto Mussolini.
Benito is Spanish because his Socialist father named him after the Mexican revolutionary Benito Juarez.
Ugo Tognazzi
08-14-2012, 01:01 PM
Brachycefalic, mainly a Alpine with Dinarid influences
Mussolini's father Alessandro
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/it/6/61/Alessandro_mussolini.jpg
Mussolini's Mother Rosa Maltoni
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/it/9/97/Rosa_maltoni_mussolini.jpg
Mussolini's brother Arnaldo
http://www.ilduce.net/Foto/arnaldo.jpg
Sistere Edvige (right)
http://www.centrorsi.it/notizie/images/stories/FotoArticoli/rachele%20e%20edvige001.jpg
similar Alpino/Dinaric types are common in Mussolini's region Romagna
poet Giovanni Pascoli, (longer headed)
http://www.giornaledibarganews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/giovanni-pascoli.jpg
Libertas
08-14-2012, 03:42 PM
The Duce was certainly brachycephalic.
Benito was more Dinaricised while the others are more in the Alpinid range.
Anthropologique
08-14-2012, 03:46 PM
Dinardicized East-Med.
Smeagol
08-26-2013, 05:24 PM
Alpine + Dinaric.
safinator
08-26-2013, 05:34 PM
Borreby or maybe better extremely robust Alpinid
aherne
08-27-2013, 05:24 AM
Both Mussolini and Servat look close to Old Italic looks...
Armand_Duval
08-27-2013, 05:31 AM
Alpo dinarid with some borreby strain.
Ianus
08-27-2013, 08:03 AM
Robust Alpine
Mortimer
08-27-2013, 08:03 AM
ethiopid
oh-nahhh
01-11-2014, 03:23 PM
Alpine+Med.
Gaijin
01-11-2014, 03:40 PM
Mussolini's brother Arnaldo
http://www.ilduce.net/Foto/arnaldo.jpg
Reincarnation.
Arnaldo Mussolini looks like this other North Italian, Francesco Belsito.
http://cdn.blogosfere.it/politicaesocieta/images/belsito-infophoto.jpg
Enflamme
09-07-2016, 01:47 AM
Alpine.
The Blade
09-07-2016, 01:28 PM
Alpinised Mediterranean.
r0karoka
09-07-2016, 01:33 PM
Pred Alpine with Med influence.
Wrong
09-07-2016, 01:33 PM
Swarthy Borreby aka Natufian Fascist
cosmoo
12-20-2016, 12:11 AM
Bump.
Metrically mostly CM, with some Mediterranean influence mainly in morphology of soft body parts.
http://gosouth.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/MussoliniHItler.jpg
decordoba
12-20-2016, 10:47 AM
Subnordid,
Italo Celtic
FilhoV
08-17-2017, 08:57 PM
Alpinized Dinaro-Med
olegbeard
08-17-2017, 08:59 PM
I think he looks Hindu/Persian
Sizzo
08-17-2017, 09:04 PM
Robust Alpinoid, probably with a hint of East Med (he was from Romagna, the Byzantine Exarchate of Italy).
Lavrentis
08-17-2017, 09:06 PM
Robust Alpinoid, probably with a hint of East Med (he was from Romagna, the Byzantine Exarchate of Italy).
Sikeliot said that the Byzantines settled Armenians there, is it true?
Sizzo
08-17-2017, 09:15 PM
Sikeliot said that the Byzantines settled Armenians there, is it true?
In effects, Byzantines, after the Gothic War, recovered the ancient Roman defensive structures, already re-used by the Goths, guarding them with Armenian, Levantine, Germanic or Slavic mining soldiers, to be added to the local militias of the local natives. Anyway I don't think that these soldiers have left a concrete genetic inheritance. Cavalli-Sforza, the genetist, supposed a Greek influence in the area around Ferrara and Ravenna (Romagna).
olegbeard
08-17-2017, 09:16 PM
Yet the guy looks clearly Hindu...
Lavrentis
08-17-2017, 09:18 PM
In effects, Byzantines, after the Gothic War, recovered the ancient Roman defensive structures, already re-used by the Goths, guarding them with Armenian, Levantine, Germanic or Slavic mining soldiers, to be added to the local militias of the local natives. Anyway I don't think that these soldiers have left a concrete genetic inheritance. Cavalli-Sforza, the genetist, supposed a Greek influence in the area around Ferrara and Ravenna (Romagna).
First time I'm hearing about Greek influence in Central Italy. Might need some googling.
Sizzo
08-17-2017, 09:23 PM
First time I'm hearing about Greek influence in Central Italy. Might need some googling.
Well, it's Central-North Italy, along the Adriatic coast. There was an Etruscan influence too. Venice itself was a sort of Byzantine protectorate, while Lombards sprawled into the Po Valley.
Sizzo
08-18-2017, 10:34 AM
Reincarnation.
Arnaldo Mussolini looks like this other North Italian, Francesco Belsito.
http://cdn.blogosfere.it/politicaesocieta/images/belsito-infophoto.jpg
That guy is a Calabrian, genius.
MinervaItalica
08-18-2017, 10:38 AM
Yet the guy looks clearly Hindu...
Sure...
OT: Alpine
MinervaItalica
08-18-2017, 10:45 AM
First time I'm hearing about Greek influence in Central Italy. Might need some googling.
There was Greek influence in North/Central Italy during Byzantine times (not the same as Greek influence of Southern Italy during Magna Graecia ofc) however it was not the only one, there were also Lombards both mixed with local Italics.
http://www.mmdtkw.org/MedRom0406aaddExarchate650.jpg
DarkPhoenix
08-18-2017, 10:49 AM
Alpine + Med.
Columella
08-18-2017, 01:32 PM
He seems a Dinaric/Alpine recombination. Face was longer than in an Alpine mean, mandible broad and slab jawed (somewhat approaching Coon's Borreby range)
Face was broad rectangle with rounded edges.
Highly brachycephalic and ipsicephalic.
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Newsboy
08-22-2017, 05:22 PM
Dinarid + Borreby.
Agreed
And it's good to know that there's a Greek influence in Northern to Central Italy. You learn something new.
Decius
08-22-2017, 10:37 PM
Benito is Alpine-Med
He passes in Northern Italy and the Balkans
JMack
09-21-2017, 01:55 AM
Dinaric + Alpine + CM.
Kouros
09-21-2017, 02:03 AM
Hitler on Mussolini:
"They know that Benito Mussolini is constructing a colossal empire which will put the Roman Empire in the shade. We shall put up ... for his victories. Mussolini is a typical representative of our Alpine race..."
— Adolf Hitler, 1931
I would say Alpine-med.
Decius
09-21-2017, 02:37 AM
Alpine race
NSXD60
09-21-2017, 03:07 AM
Coarse Alpinized MENA
Mortimer
09-21-2017, 05:16 AM
Il Duce
n1KITA
09-21-2017, 11:00 AM
Alpino+med!
Amor Vincit Omnia
09-21-2017, 11:32 AM
Alpinised fascist dinaric dictatorshiped Med :thumb001:
kleenex
09-25-2017, 02:19 PM
Not the most attractive man in the world. I see someone MENA in him as well.He was the Poster Boy for Hitler? Jesus. I guess it made Hitler feel better about his own looks.
Sizzo
09-25-2017, 02:53 PM
There's nothing MENA in Mussolini's appearance, he was a regular southern European. More likely, the MENA admixture is into the socks who say MENA to him.
hwotton
09-25-2017, 02:59 PM
a tragedy for Italy...
alpine-med?
kingjohn
09-25-2017, 02:59 PM
middle eastern vibe
in facial features
genetoically 100% european ...
he remaind in facial fetures this asshole https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferenc_Sz%C3%A1lasi
Borreby+dinarid . It's not an atypical look in my region.
Agree with the tragedy for italy classification
Principe Azzurro
02-09-2018, 08:02 PM
Alpine+East Mediterranean, he has some Eastern vibe to him, Il Duce despite being from Emilia Romagna for me looks typical Southern Italian, everyone has a cousin who has similar looks to him.
You see it more when he was younger.
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Alessio
02-09-2018, 09:28 PM
Alpine+East Mediterranean, he has some Eastern vibe to him, Il Duce despite being from Emilia Romagna for me looks typical Southern Italian, everyone has a cousin who has similar looks to him.
You see it more when he was younger.
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He just looks Italian, not Southern per se.
desiha
02-09-2018, 10:02 PM
Alpine-Med
The Blade
03-08-2018, 10:29 PM
Actually rather alpinised Cromagnid:
http://guardiadelduce.it/images/benitomussolini.jpg
https://www.alinari.it/img-thumb/480/MRC/MRC-A-000001-0004.jpg
http://www.ilmessaggero.it/ArchivioNews/20091120_c1_duce.jpg
https://www.thefamousbirthdays.com/photo/en/8/8b/wk_35733_24097_large.jpg
Cuoppo
03-09-2018, 12:42 PM
Alpine+East Mediterranean, he has some Eastern vibe to him, Il Duce despite being from Emilia Romagna for me looks typical Southern Italian, everyone has a cousin who has similar looks to him.
He was from Romagna and that's not a typical Southern Italian look.
Kivan
03-09-2018, 12:47 PM
East-Med + Alpine + CM.
Cuoppo
03-09-2018, 12:50 PM
East-Med + Alpine + CM.
he was completely brachycephalic, east-med is dolichocephalic.
Kivan
03-09-2018, 12:53 PM
he was completely brachycephalic, east-med is dolichocephalic.
I didn't said he was totally EM, but yeah, you are right.
Principe Azzurro
03-10-2018, 12:33 AM
He was from Romagna and that's not a typical Southern Italian look.
He has facial features that can pass for Southern Italian, and I said he was from Romagna.
avalez
11-10-2018, 10:21 AM
alpine
Mädel Edelweiß
11-18-2018, 11:28 PM
He has a North African feel to him. I have some Egyptian friends and he looks similar to them, especially when he was young and had hair. I would say VERY Mediterranean with some apline influence.
Papastratosels26
11-18-2018, 11:29 PM
Alpine
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Leader
10-21-2019, 08:29 PM
Mostly Dalofaelid aka Cromagnid, plus a bit of Dinarid and Mediterranid.
coolfrenchguy
10-21-2019, 08:39 PM
fascistoid
Latinus
10-22-2019, 12:38 AM
Alpine-Med/CM.
Adamastor
10-22-2019, 12:48 AM
When you are a fascist leader you receive Dalo-Faelid classifications even if you are an extreme type of Mediterranean able to pass in all the mediterranean basin.
Leader
10-22-2019, 07:43 PM
When you are a fascist leader you receive Dalo-Faelid classifications even if you are an extreme type of Mediterranean able to pass in all the mediterranean basin.
I admit, the Duce has some Taurid and Gracile Mediterranid admixture. However, the Dalofaelid base is primary. He is not very typical for Mediterranean Europe.
Benito Mussolini was a good guy.
Adamastor
10-22-2019, 08:48 PM
I admit, the Duce has some Taurid and Gracile Mediterranid admixture. However, the Dalofaelid base is primary. He is not very typical for Mediterranean Europe.
Benito Mussolini was a good guy.
Get real, dude. With proper clothing Mussolini could pass even in Egypt (I'm not saying he looks Egyptian, just that he could ''pass'', the same for some other South Euros).
Leader
10-23-2019, 07:49 PM
Get real, dude. With proper clothing Mussolini could pass even in Egypt (I'm not saying he looks Egyptian, just that he could ''pass'', the same for some other South Euros).
Indeed. I know of a very few Arabs who look identical to him. The Dalofaelid phenotype works it's way into Western Asia, even South Asia, although rare nowadays with centuries of mixing in greater or lesser numbers.
Kamal900
10-25-2019, 06:59 PM
Get real, dude. With proper clothing Mussolini could pass even in Egypt (I'm not saying he looks Egyptian, just that he could ''pass'', the same for some other South Euros).
True. I myself was mistaken for an Egyptian Copt when I was in Egypt.
https://image.ibb.co/eEcXrz/20180930-231332.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/pvBcsV8/20181219-120706.jpg
Dimitri159
05-09-2021, 12:24 AM
Alpinized (Gracile) Med + CM. Lmao his face was WAYYY too small for his head.
Gondor
05-09-2021, 12:29 AM
East-med + berid + idiot
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09-28-2021, 07:17 AM
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09-28-2021, 07:37 AM
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IL Duce is Dinaro Med some Berid
chociprasa
09-28-2021, 09:45 AM
Alpinid-CM with East Med influences, basically a robuster version of this military conscript from Piedmont:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Photograph_from_The_Races_of_Europe%2C_Ripley_II.p ng
Veslan
09-28-2021, 09:50 AM
Il Duce had cephalic index of 85,6 (head breadth 16,0 divided by head lenght 18,7).
https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/3/benito-mussolini-mugshot-1903-mug-shot-tony-rubino.jpg
As for classification, agree with Alpine-Med
chociprasa
09-28-2021, 09:52 AM
Funnily enough, Hitler basically classified himself and Mussolini as Alpine:
They know that Benito Mussolini is constructing a colossal empire which will put the Roman Empire in the shade. We shall put up ... for his victories. Mussolini is a typical representative of our Alpine race...
Thanos
04-25-2022, 07:54 AM
Mussolini is Alpine-CM or reduced CM, he had a very round facial features, but also had a very strong chin, which is clearly a CM trait.
Thanos
04-25-2022, 07:56 AM
Hitler was Alpinised North Atlantid or Subnordid (which is Alpine + Nordid basically), and Mussolini was Alpine-CM. They both indeed had Alpine facial traits.
Mixdguy17
05-19-2022, 06:04 PM
Is the shape of the back of his head typical for Alpinids or Dinarids?
Eliades
05-19-2022, 06:27 PM
CM + Med
Eliades
05-19-2022, 06:33 PM
CM + Med
Kaghante
12-12-2022, 07:19 PM
Alpinized Med
axel.aleman
12-12-2022, 07:42 PM
Atlanto Med + CM
Jingle Bell
12-12-2022, 07:49 PM
Alpinized Berid + Atlanto-Med
Marshall Theodore
12-22-2022, 03:59 PM
Alpine
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