View Full Version : Levantine Arabs or Iranians, which one is genetically more European on average?
princeton90
05-06-2021, 06:00 PM
Question is in the title.
Neither have genuine European ancestry. If you mean Steppe, I'd say Iranians.
FinalFlash
05-06-2021, 06:03 PM
Steppe=Iranians
EEF= Levantines
Radimir
05-06-2021, 06:07 PM
Levantine Arabs.
reboun
05-06-2021, 07:14 PM
Iranians have more North European admixture, Levantine Arabs have more South European admixture. Overall, Levantine Arabs have more North European + South European admixture than Iranians.
Dr_Maul
05-07-2021, 01:13 AM
Defining European as EEF+Yamnaya+WHG on G25 (using Davidski standard calculator with CHG instead of Kura Axes and only Barcin N)
Lebanese_Christian_Greek_Orthodox: 27.7
Syrian: 23.2
Iranian_Fars: 34.4
Iranian_Zoroastrian: 37.8
Hamilcar
05-07-2021, 02:13 AM
Defining European as EEF+Yamnaya+WHG on G25 (using Davidski standard calculator with CHG instead of Kura Axes and only Barcin N)
Lebanese_Christian_Greek_Orthodox: 27.7
Syrian: 23.2
Iranian_Fars: 34.4
Iranian_Zoroastrian: 37.8
I'm not sure but I suppose this "EEF" among levantines directly came from anatolia logically therefore it's "local" ancestry but also shared ancestry with europeans
Dr_Maul
05-07-2021, 03:30 AM
I'm not sure but I suppose this "EEF" among levantines directly came from anatolia logically therefore it's "local" ancestry but also shared ancestry with europeans
True most of it is native (even Iran CHL is between 15-20% EEF) but generally it is considered European component
princeton90
05-08-2021, 04:20 PM
Defining European as EEF+Yamnaya+WHG on G25 (using Davidski standard calculator with CHG instead of Kura Axes and only Barcin N)
Lebanese_Christian_Greek_Orthodox: 27.7
Syrian: 23.2
Iranian_Fars: 34.4
Iranian_Zoroastrian: 37.8
It is interesting, because Levantines usually plot closer to South European cluster than Iranians do.
FinalFlash
05-08-2021, 04:38 PM
It is interesting, because Levantines usually plot closer to South European cluster than Iranians do.
Levantines plot the closest to Europe of all non-Europeans.
Dr_Maul
05-08-2021, 08:49 PM
It is interesting, because Levantines usually plot closer to South European cluster than Iranians do.
I guess Gedrosia and some type of South Asian admix makes Iranians plot farther, also Levant traces in South Europe
Dr_Maul
05-08-2021, 08:50 PM
double
Lebanese are closer to South Europeans in general, but Iranians have more North-Euro like admixture
princeton90
05-11-2021, 08:51 PM
Defining European as EEF+Yamnaya+WHG on G25 (using Davidski standard calculator with CHG instead of Kura Axes and only Barcin N)
Lebanese_Christian_Greek_Orthodox: 27.7
Syrian: 23.2
Iranian_Fars: 34.4
Iranian_Zoroastrian: 37.8
Are Yamnaya fully European? AFAIK, they have significant amount of Caucasus/Gedrosia.
Dr_Maul
05-12-2021, 12:50 AM
Are Yamnaya fully European? AFAIK, they have significant amount of Caucasus/Gedrosia.
They are roughly half Caucasus/Gedrosia but if you say they aren't European you are implying NW Euros are 20% not european, which isn't really right tbh.
Flashball
05-17-2021, 12:23 AM
Lebanese and Syrians have more Levant_PPNB that "Barcin"
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