European Villains

[Turkey]

Who has done the most damge to europe over history?

Charlemagne?
napolean?
Hitler?
Churchil?

[Joe McCarthy]

Francis I rates very low.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Ottoman_alliance

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Francois_I_Suleiman.jpg/350px-Francois_I_Suleiman.jpg


Francis I (left) and Suleiman the Magnificent (right) initiated the Franco-Ottoman alliance. Both were separately painted by Titian circa 1530.


The Franco-Ottoman alliance, also Franco-Turkish alliance, was an alliance established in 1536 between the king of France Francis I and the Turkish ruler of the Ottoman Empire Suleiman the Magnificent. The alliance has been called "the first non-ideological diplomatic alliance of its kind between a Christian and non-Christian empire".[1] It did however cause quite a scandal in the Christian world,[2] and was designated as "the impious alliance", or "the sacrilegious union of the Lily and the Crescent"; nevertheless, it endured since it served the objective interests of both parties.[3] The strategic and sometimes tactical alliance was one of the most important foreign alliances of France and lasted for more than two and a half centuries,[4] until the Napoleonic Campaign in Egypt, an Ottoman territory, in 1798–1801.

[Hess]

Napoleon is definitely among one of them, yes.

[Joe McCarthy]

Robespierre - the arch-fanatic and mass murdering revolutionary zealot.

http://www.quotecollection.com/author-images/maximilien-robespierre-2.jpg

[Joe McCarthy]

http://images.wikia.com/deadliestfiction/images/b/b6/Ivan_the_terrible.jpg

Needs little explanation. He's known for setting bears on his subjects in the streets of Moscow for shits and giggles.

[Laubach]

And, what about Stalin? by these options, I vote for Hitler

[Hevneren]

Vidkun Quisling
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uA_yuAv6Wug/S5YqkGzQ0HI/AAAAAAAABXI/kX18Es-e6N0/s400/betrayal....jpg

[Joe McCarthy]

Vidkun Quisling
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uA_yuAv6Wug/S5YqkGzQ0HI/AAAAAAAABXI/kX18Es-e6N0/s400/betrayal....jpg

I saw that one coming. :thumb001:

[Hevneren]

I saw that one coming. :thumb001:

You smelled the treason one post ahead? :eek:

[Joe McCarthy]

You smelled the treason one post ahead? :eek:

As soon as I saw you had posted I figured it'd be Quisling.

[Hevneren]

This obviously needs no commentary:
http://www.holocaust-history.org/short-essays/hitler-480.jpg

:puke:

[Joe McCarthy]

Very hard to beat Erich Koch...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Koch

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-H13717,_Erich_Koch.jpg/250px-Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-H13717,_Erich_Koch.jpg


Koch's first act as Reichskommissar was to close local schools, declaring that "Ukraine children need no schools. What they'll have to learn will be taught them by their German masters." [1] His brutality is best exemplified by his remark, "If I meet a Ukrainian worthy of being seated at my table, I must have him shot."

[Peyrol]

Who has done the most damge to europe over history?

Charlemagne?
napolean?
Hitler?
Churchil?

Karl Marx

http://cultura.storiagiornalismo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/karl-marx.jpg


Vladimir Lenin

http://fgcimola.altervista.org/immagini/lenin.jpg


Erich Honecker

http://courseweb.stthomas.edu/paschons/language_http/courses/IDSC29001S99/coursegraphics/honecker.jpg

Josip Broz "Tito"

http://www.dittatori.it/titoposa2.jpg

[Sebastianus Rex]

Who has done the most damge to europe over history?

Charlemagne?
napolean?
Hitler?
Churchil?

Why is Charlemagne on that list ?

Why the greatest murderers of all time Lenin and Stalin are not on the list?

Communism in Soviet Union alone killed more than 60 million people. 10 million Ukranians were slaughtered or condemn to starvation during the Holomodor, caused by the forced collectivization of the lands.

Under these options, my vote goes for Churchill, he had no reason to declare war on Germany and start World War II, Hitler offered him several peace offers and he always rejected them. Because of him England lost all the empire and more than half of Europe was under communist slavery for 50 years. Churchill was a complete fool. He latter admitted in the Parliament that he made a mistake in declaring war on Germany instead of declaring war on the Soviet Union, he said "we killed the wrong pig".

Now his country is the most invaded in Europe with more than 9 million non-whites. In London 40% are non-white. England is lost.

[Sebastianus Rex]

Very hard to beat Erich Koch...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Koch

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-H13717,_Erich_Koch.jpg/250px-Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-H13717,_Erich_Koch.jpg

Koch was insignificant compared to what Stalin did in Ukraine. Besides there was a war going on. When the germans arrived in Ukraine they were viewed as liberators and the ukranian nationalists fought alongside with Germany against Stalin.

The holomodor in Ukraine was the biggest genocide in Europe in all the XXth century, 10 million ukranians died in the 1930's. This was done by Stalin and the Soviet Union, not by Germany or Koch.

[Sebastianus Rex]

This obviously needs no commentary:
http://www.holocaust-history.org/short-essays/hitler-480.jpg

:puke:

You know nothing about history, you only think you know, but in reality you know only what jewhollywood teaches you. You have to read revisionist history to understand the historic process, it was not like the official history tell us.

If Hitler has woned the war your country wouldn't be invaded with muslims like it is now.

And why don't you tell us something about how the children of german fathers/norwegian mothers were treated in your country after WWII ? Maybe you don't know about that, more than 12.000 norwegian children of the Lebensborn Project were discriminated, isolated from other children, suffered beatings, abuses, drawing suasticas in their foreheads and sterilized. Their mothers were arrested, beaten, raped and condemned to forced labours. All this in the democratic Norway.

[Joe McCarthy]

That Stalin killed more than Koch does not make Koch a non-villain. And Germany can thank Koch for Ukraine viewing Germany as villains rather than liberators when it was all said and done.

[Peasant]

Vidkun Quisling
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uA_yuAv6Wug/S5YqkGzQ0HI/AAAAAAAABXI/kX18Es-e6N0/s400/betrayal....jpg

Most damage to Europe? If Quisling counts enough then this bloke is definately worth a mention in this thread:

http://www.jewishjournal.com/images/photos/tw_blair-tony_011808.jpg

[The Lawspeaker]

Karl Marx

http://cultura.storiagiornalismo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/karl-marx.jpg

Isn't European. But a scumbag nonetheless.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Prince_Bernhard_1942.jpg
Prince Bernhard of Lippe-Biesterfeld.

Nationality: German - later on in life: Dutch
One of two founders of the Bilderberg Group and co-founder of the Rotary International.

He has always both a celebrated war hero and a figure mired in controversy. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Bernhard_of_Lippe-Biesterfeld#Scandals_and_insinuations)

[Sebastianus Rex]

That Stalin killed more than Koch does not make Koch a non-villain. And Germany can thank Koch for Ukraine viewing Germany as villains rather than liberators when it was all said and done.

It's a minor villain, there were hundreds like him, George W.Bush is just one them, this is about the Great European villains of all time.

I remind your own words.


Joe McCarthy - Very hard to beat Erich Koch...

Stalin killed dozens of millions, 10 million only in Ukraine, to mention Koch is pathetic.

[Joe McCarthy]

Stalin killed dozens of millions, 10 million only in Ukraine, to mention Koch is pathetic.

I guess it would be 'pathetic' to mention Pol Pot in that case (assuming he was European). He also killed less than Stalin.

[Piparskeggr]

Yersinia Pestis

http://aapredbook.aappublications.org/content/images/large/2003/1/101_06.jpeg

[The Lawspeaker]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Reconstructed_Spanish_Flu_Virus.jpg
1918 Spanish flu. Which unlike it's name suggest started in Haskell County, Kansas (U.S.A) before troop movements brought it to Europe.

[Arrow Cross]

As soon as I saw you had posted I figured it'd be Quisling.
I sometimes wonder what hysterical little democratard lemmings are doing on a racial preservationist site like this.

As for the villains of Europe, at the end of the day, it all boils down to drunkard warmonger Winston Churchill. He was the one responsible for seeing Europe burn, and ultimately, for the White man to lose his dominance over the world, giving way to our current age of sharp decline. He was the traitor who tipped the scales at a critical point of our common history.

[Peyrol]

About Italy

H.R.M. King Vittorio Emanuele III di Savoia, re d'Italia, re di Albania, imperatore di Etiopia e negus di Tigrai (Eritrea)

http://buffa.blogautore.repubblica.it/files/2007/11/vittorio-emanuele-iii.jpg


Pietro Badoglio, maresciallo dell'Impero (:laugh:)
http://www.ilduce.net/componentigrafiche/badoglio.jpg

Palmiro Togliatti, head of the "Partito Comunista Italiano"

http://nondimenticare.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/togliatti.jpg


Giulio Andreotti, former prime minister
http://www.ivid.it/fotogallery/imagesearch/images/andreotti_giulio_politico_009_jpg_iybk.jpg

Bettino Craxi, former prime minister (italo-albanian)

http://lnx.aseliso.it/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/craxi01g.jpg


Silvio Berlusconi, current prime minister (1994 - ??? )
http://www.francescoiacopino.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/silvio-berlusconi2.jpg

[Turkey]

Why is Charlemagne on that list ? because he destroyed the spirituality of our people and butchered milions of us. It wasn't until tomas cromwell that europe saw a similar villain.


Why the greatest murderers of all time Lenin and Stalin are not on the list? The op is not a list. It is a question. This is a parallel thread to european heros thread. I just wrote a few examples to get the ball rolling. I can see the op can be read the way you read it though. I didn't notice that when i wrote it.

I noticed the 'heros' eveyone put up were mostly villains.


Communism in Soviet Union alone killed more than 60 million people. 10 million Ukranians were slaughtered or condemn to starvation during the Holomodor, caused by the forced collectivization of the lands.

Under these options, my vote goes for Churchill, he had no reason to declare war on Germany and start World War II, Hitler offered him several peace offers and he always rejected them. Because of him England lost all the empire and more than half of Europe was under communist slavery for 50 years. Churchill was a complete fool. He latter admitted in the Parliament that he made a mistake in declaring war on Germany instead of declaring war on the Soviet Union, he said "we killed the wrong pig".

Now his country is the most invaded in Europe with more than 9 million non-whites. In London 40% are non-white. England is lost.

Totally agree. Winston churchill's my top pick. He a was a blood thirsty butcher and a fool(in the most perfect definition of fool).

[Joe McCarthy]

I sometimes wonder what hysterical little democratard lemmings are doing on a racial preservationist site like this.


The US has been both a democracy and the state with the longest functioning racial system spanning some three centuries.

Racialism isn't reducible to a disastrous regime that lasted a little over a decade in the twentieth century. Indeed, the Nazis patterned much of their policy on the US model:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20894

[Logan]

Chruchill? Must be a poor jest.

Though it was not his intention I would say Hitler.

[Peyrol]

I forgot him: Bernardo Provenzano, Ultimate godfather of all the italian (and not only) mafias.

http://www.repubblica.it/2003/j/sezioni/cronaca/provenzano/biglietti/stor_5082151_46300.jpg

http://www.agronline.it/multimedia/foto/Bernardo%20Provenzano.jpg


has been calculated that in the period of maximum activity, over 80,000,000 of workers around the world (especially in Europe, USA and Middle East) worked for companies associated with him and his family.

[Hevneren]

You know nothing about history, you only think you know, but in reality you know only what jewhollywood teaches you. You have to read revisionist history to understand the historic process, it was not like the official history tell us.

You and your brownshirt friends are laughable. You're pissy because your miserable failure of an ideology lost, and now you're trying to rewrite history. History and reality is on our side, not on the side of the brownshirts and Jewspiracists like yourself.


If Hitler has woned the war your country wouldn't be invaded with muslims like it is now.

You seem to be confused, poor brownshirt. First of all, Hitler couldn't have cared less about European nations, which was why he let millions of indigenous Europeans die for his megalomania and wanted to incorporate European countries into his German Reich. Second of all, it was Spain and Portugal that were invaded by Muslims. The miserable failure of your Iberian ancestors to defend their homes lead to almost 800 years of Islamic occupation. Third of all, there's no "Muslim invasion" in Norway, you daft brownshirt, unless you think less than 4% of the population constitutes an invasion.


And why don't you tell us something about how the children of german fathers/norwegian mothers were treated in your country after WWII ? Maybe you don't know about that, more than 12.000 norwegian children of the Lebensborn Project were discriminated, isolated from other children, suffered beatings, abuses, drawing suasticas in their foreheads and sterilized. Their mothers were arrested, beaten, raped and condemned to forced labours. All this in the democratic Norway.

What does this have to do with anything, brownshirt? And if you want to talk about democracy, you might not want to defend authoritarian Fascists like dear old uncle Adolf.

[Hevneren]

Most damage to Europe? If Quisling counts enough then this bloke is definately worth a mention in this thread:

http://www.jewishjournal.com/images/photos/tw_blair-tony_011808.jpg

Way to trivialise Quisling selling out my entire nation and people to a hostile Fascist aggressor force. :rolleyes:

[Hevneren]

I sometimes wonder what hysterical little democratard lemmings are doing on a racial preservationist site like this.

Talking about me, brownshirt? Let's see your wonderful brownshirt ideology in action, saving us Europeans. Oh wait, you already had your go and it ended in a miserable failure and a war in which more Europeans were killed than in any other war on the continent. Way to go! And you call us "democratards"? :rolleyes:

[Kataphraktoi]

Giuseppe Garibaldi

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/Giuseppe_Garibaldi_portrait2.jpg

[Aces High]

This fat drunk corrupt half American warmongering gangster.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill.

[MagnaLaurentia]

Who has done the most damge to europe over history?

Charlemagne?
napolean?
Hitler?
Churchil?

Holy Sh*t!!! Charlemangne in the european vilain!?!?!?! The Australian education system is dangerous!

[Turkey]

Holy Sh*t!!! Charlemangne in the european vilain!?!?!?! The Australian education system is dangerous!

Once you take a way a peoples spirituality, you've put them on the first step to globalization. Christianity is globalist. Haven't you noticed?

edit: If someone today started torturing and killing thousands of people to convert them to his religion today, you wouldn't think he was a villain?

[Damião de Góis]

The miserable failure of your Iberian ancestors to defend their homes lead to almost 800 years of Islamic occupation.

This discussion isn't with me and i don't know what brownshirts are but i'm gonna correct you in a few things. The ones who failed to defend Iberia against the muslims were the Visigoths, not our Iberian ancestors. They were the ones who provoked the invasion too. Occupation time is 800 years in only one city in Spain. Reconquest was gradual, from north to south and some places didn't even have 100 years of occupation. Portugal conquered the last southern cities in 1253 finishing the reconquista then.

[MagnaLaurentia]

Once you take a way a peoples spirituality, you've put them on the first step to globalization. Christianity is globalist. Haven't you noticed?

:eek:

It's a joke? The concept of globalization does not exist in the Middle Ages! The world did not even know that America and several other countries existed! You confuse Christian civilization and the vision of finance from 1960!

[Turkey]

The miserable failure of your Iberian ancestors to defend their homes lead to almost 800 years of Islamic occupation.
What a fucked thing to say. You really are a sheltered snot nosed brat aren't you?:D

[Turkey]

:eek:

It's a joke? The concept of globalization does not exist in the Middle Ages!

The concept of globalization is as old as empires. It might have bean called flatization but the concept is the same: making all one

[MagnaLaurentia]

The concept of globalization is as old as empires. It might have bean called flatization but the concept is the same: making all one

BRONZE AGE, the first step of "GLOBALIZATION" since 3200 B.C. :thumbs up

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Metallurgical_diffusion.png

[Edelmann]

edit: If someone today started torturing and killing thousands of people to convert them to his religion today, you wouldn't think he was a villain?

Do you really expect me to shed a tear over Heathenry? As if Heathen tribes didn't spend their time conquering and killing all over Europe, and now modern Heathens want to self-righteously project their moral standards onto medieval times?

To me, modern "heathens" come off as having a huge chip on their collective shoulder re: Christianity. Which is funny considering that it's very well possible that their ancestors were the Christians who did the persecuting.

[Nglund]

This fat drunk corrupt half American warmongering gangster.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill.


http://www.defender2.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10795/hitler-approves-of-your-post.jpg

[Turkey]

Do you really expect me to shed a tear over Heathenry? As if Heathen tribes didn't spend their time conquering and killing all over Europe, and now modern Heathens want to self-righteously project their moral standards onto medieval times?

To me, modern "heathens" come off as having a huge chip on their collective shoulder re: Christianity. Which is funny considering that it's very well possible that their ancestors were the Christians who did the persecuting.

I'm not a 'heathen' so forget and see if you have the ability to reason.
Is murdering and torturing thousands villainous?

[Hevneren]

What a fucked thing to say. You really are a sheltered snot nosed brat aren't you?:D

This coming from a worthless troll obsessed with Star Wars clips and gay sex?

[Turkey]

BRONZE AGE, the first step of "GLOBALIZATION" since 3200 B.C. :thumbs up

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Metallurgical_diffusion.png

It was a globalisation of bronze metal working, certainly.

[Turkey]

This coming from a worthless troll obsessed with Star Wars clips and gay sex?5iwOvC595d0

[MagnaLaurentia]

It was a globalisation of bronze metal working, certainly.

This is how the agents of globalization have acted.

This video is based on a TRUE story...

EZ15vUjgqvw

[Chip Farley]

Surprised this contender has not been mentioned:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Gramsci.png

Antonio Gramsci

Essentially founded Cultural Marxism, the morass that Western Civilization finds itself in today and has not been able to chart an escape from (yet).

If only Uncle Benito had burned his papers while Gramsci was imprisoned! :mad:


Thought

Gramsci is seen by many as one of the most important Marxist thinkers of the twentieth century, in particular as a key thinker in the development of Western Marxism. He wrote more than 30 notebooks and 3000 pages of history and analysis during his imprisonment. These writings, known as the Prison Notebooks, contain Gramsci's tracing of Italian history and nationalism, as well as some ideas in Marxist theory, critical theory and educational theory associated with his name, such as:

Cultural hegemony as a means of maintaining the capitalist state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Gramsci#Thought



Since the early 1990s, paleoconservatives such as Patrick Buchanan and William S. Lind have argued that "Cultural Marxism" is a dominant strain of thought within the American left, and associate it with a philosophy to destroy Western civilization. Buchanan has asserted that the Frankfurt School commandeered the American mass media, and used this cartel to infect the minds of Americans.[8]

Lind argues that,

"Political Correctness is cultural Marxism. It is Marxism translated from economic into cultural terms. It is an effort that goes back not to the 1960s and the hippies and the peace movement, but back to World War I. [9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_marxism#Critiques

[Peyrol]

More than Gramsci, i prefer mentione him pupil Palmiro Togliatti (see the precedents page).

[Peyrol]

Another one: Pope PIO IX (born Giovanni Maria Mastai Ferretti, XIX duke of Senigallia), the man who more than any other opposed Italian unity

http://quarini.scuole.piemonte.it/150italia/Immagini/papa-pio-IX.jpg