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Kross
05-10-2021, 04:40 AM
When you say that they're West Asian, you basically legitimize their presence in Anatolia which is Greek lands since 4000 years ago.

People here need to stop classifying Turks as Pontid, Armenoid, or whatever Caucasoid phenotype! Turks are not even Caucasoid, they're mixed race!

All Turks are Turanids, there are no other phenotypes there.

They speak a Turkic language, identify as such, and look as such.

Turks are just Central Asians.

MechtoidAfalouHG
05-10-2021, 05:13 AM
Turkish people are actually mostly levantine arabs and local anatolians who where cucked so hard by the Turks that they speak a Turkic language.

Pater Patota
05-10-2021, 05:18 AM
When you say that they're West Asian, you basically legitimize their presence in Anatolia which is Greek lands since 4000 years ago.

People here need to stop classifying Turks as Pontid, Armenoid, or whatever Caucasoid phenotype! Turks are not even Caucasoid, they're mixed race!

All Turks are Turanids, there are no other phenotypes there.

They speak a Turkic language, identify as such, and look as such.

Turks are just Central Asians.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?346392-Post-your-DNA-test-result-with-a-pic-of-yourself/page2

Let’s see what you’re going to say for me.

Kross
05-10-2021, 05:29 AM
Turkish people are actually mostly levantine arabs and local anatolians who where cucked so hard by the Turks that they speak a Turkic language.

No, they're not Anatolian.

Average Turk:
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-94e27b98a0b6849041738357079e913e

Kross
05-10-2021, 05:30 AM
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?346392-Post-your-DNA-test-result-with-a-pic-of-yourself/page2

Let’s see what you’re going to say for me.

Send the picture in PM.

Luso
05-10-2021, 05:40 AM
Turks are often whiter than scandanavians tbh

Kross
05-10-2021, 05:56 AM
Turks are often whiter than scandanavians tbh

Nah.

Mixdguy17
05-10-2021, 05:57 AM
Isnt the western half of the country all the way to that half of Istanbul, part of Europe?.

Kross
05-10-2021, 05:58 AM
Isnt the east half of the country all the way to Istanbul part of Europe?.

I'm talking about Turks. They're not West Asian genetically nor Anatolian, they're just Central Asian Turkic/Turkmen, so they're not indigenous.

Mixdguy17
05-10-2021, 06:02 AM
I'm talking about Turks. They're not West Asian genetically nor Anatolian, they're just Central Asian Turkic/Turkmen, so they're not indigenous.

I am not familiar with that part of the planet, but theres gotta be some relation right? Bcs then why do some Turkish people look european?.

Armenian Bishop
05-10-2021, 06:04 AM
Most of the Eastern half of Turkey is historically Armenian, as well as Pontic Greek. In the 1st Century BC, the Armenian and Pontic-Greek Empires were actually allies. I should add that Mustafa Kemal Ataturk had much to do with the People of modern day Turkey being indoctrinated to view themselves as Turks (or Turkic).

Kross
05-10-2021, 06:07 AM
I am not familiar with that part of the planet, but theres gotta be some relation right? Bcs then why do some Turkish people look european?.

65% of Turkey are Turks, the rest are Albanian, Bosnian, Kurds, Armenians, etc.

Non-Turks can look European.

Kyp
05-10-2021, 06:12 AM
They are predominantly West Asian (Western Turks too).

Greeks are partly West Asian too.

Also Turkey has one of the highest percentages of YDNA J2, which is the trademark Northern West Asian haplogroup.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/Haplogroup_J2%28Y-DNA%29.png

Kross
05-10-2021, 06:15 AM
They are predominantly West Asian (Western Turks too).

Greeks are partly West Asian too.

Also Turkey has one of the highest percentages of YDNA J2 (along with Azerbaijan and Iran), which is the trademark Northern West Asian haplogroup.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/Haplogroup_J2%28Y-DNA%29.png

Central Asians can have J2 too.

Kyp
05-10-2021, 06:15 AM
Central Asians can have J2 too.

doesn't change the fact that it's ultimately from west asia.

Kross
05-10-2021, 06:19 AM
doesn't change the fact that it's ultimately from west asia.

Also doesn't change the fact that Turks are not indigenous. Compare Turks to ancient Anatolians and you'll see the difference.

Kyp
05-10-2021, 06:24 AM
Also doesn't change the fact that Turks are not indigenous. Compare Turks to ancient Anatolians and you'll see the difference.

correct. But they're still predominently West Asian.

Kross
05-10-2021, 06:27 AM
correct. But they're still predominently West Asian.

Barely.

They're mostly of Turkmen Oghuz extract which is Central Asian.

Sora
05-10-2021, 06:42 AM
What are you smoking, dude? Is that delicious?

There are many proofs about you are lying since we are all of West Asia. Also what we are if we aren't West Asian? We are here since 1071 and we are legally a part of this geography, no karter how many times you deny this fact.

Turks are neither full Central Asian nor assimilated natives. If you look up the studies of "Turkish DNA Project", you will brightly see Turks are mixture of 60%-70% native + 30%-40% Central Asian Turkic admixtures.

Btw unlike the popular belief, Greek groups are too heterogenous to be related. Turks are 2x more homogenous than pan-Greeks(is there even something like this?). So do not ever think you & your Greek bros are descendants of ancient Greek philosophers :rolleyes:

Kyp
05-10-2021, 06:42 AM
Barely.

They're mostly of Turkmen Oghuz extract which is Central Asian.

It doesn't exceed 45%. On average probably 25%.

Also "Central Asian" is a mix of East Asian + European + West Asian

Kross
05-10-2021, 06:51 AM
What are you smoking, dude? Is that delicious?

There are many proofs about you are lying since we are all of West Asia. Also what we are if we aren't West Asian? We are here since 1071 and we are legally a part of this geography, no karter how many times you deny this fact.

Turks are neither full Central Asian nor assimilated natives. If you look up the studies of "Turkish DNA Project", you will brightly see Turks are mixture of 60%-70% native + 30%-40% Central Asian Turkic admixtures.

Btw unlike the popular belief, Greek groups are too heterogenous to be related. Turks are 2x more homogenous than pan-Greeks(is there even something like this?). So do not ever think you & your Greek bros are descendants of ancient Greek philosophers :rolleyes:

You are here since 1071 as invaders, nothing more. How do you feel about the fact that you're living on a stolen Greek lands? "Anatolia" is a term used by Greeks for Turkey's major landmass, and that the word derives from Greek word "Anatole" which means "sunrise", and "east" in Greek.

Kross
05-10-2021, 06:55 AM
It doesn't exceed 45%. On average probably 25%.

Also "Central Asian" is a mix of East Asian + European + West Asian

Look buddy, Anatolian DNA is the same thing as Greek DNA. How much Greek DNA do Turks score? 20%? 30%? That's it?

All of the non-Greek DNA in Turks is non-indigenous.

Sora
05-10-2021, 07:03 AM
You are here since 1071 as invaders, nothing more. How do you feel about the fact that you're living in a stolen Greek lands? "Anatolia" is a term used by Greeks for Turkey's major landmass, and that the word derives from Greek word "Anatole" which means "sunrise", and "east" in Greek.


You really forgot Hittites, Phyrigians and other Native Anatolians? Or are you playing the dumbass? Greeks were NEVER native to Anatolia, they still aren't and will never be! Your "Anatolian Greeks"(!) even have no connection to their Mainland brothers except language! Are you really that dumb to believe every single Greek are 100% descended from those Ancient Greek philosophers? If so, I'm so sorry, you have no brain at all even as peafowls do!

Also I have many proofs that debunking your dreams. But look them up carefully, ok?!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvGJpS9XIAsIhns?format=png&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvfP69pXAAAWDry?format=png&name=900x900

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Esg8-_NW4AEGW-F?format=jpg&name=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Esg8VGLW8AEdUex?format=jpg&name=medium

They are all true & scientific. Also leaving this website for you: https://turkishdnaproject.com/en/home/

Kross
05-10-2021, 07:16 AM
You really forgot Hittites, Phyrigians and other Native Anatolians? Or are you playing the dumbass? Greeks were NEVER native to Anatolia, they still aren't and will never be! Your "Anatolian Greeks"(!) even have no connection to their Mainland brothers except language! Are you really that dumb to believe every single Greek are 100% descended from those Ancient Greek philosophers? If so, I'm so sorry, you have no brain at all even as peafowls do!

Also I have many proofs that debunking your dreams. But look them up carefully, ok?!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvGJpS9XIAsIhns?format=png&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvfP69pXAAAWDry?format=png&name=900x900

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Esg8-_NW4AEGW-F?format=jpg&name=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Esg8VGLW8AEdUex?format=jpg&name=medium

They are all true & scientific. Also leaving this website for you: https://turkishdnaproject.com/en/home/

Hittites/Lydians were Greeks. Also big LOL at the Turkish science you just sent me. Greeks being unrelated to each other? These are just Turk dreams.

Philippos01
05-10-2021, 08:10 AM
ı went to turkey for few times,ı didn't see any turk like a your say,most of them look like a armenian or greek only a minority looks like a central asian

Altaylı
05-10-2021, 08:33 AM
A 10% east eurasian Turk is modelling as half modern central asian half modern west asian but central asians are not fully mongoloid too

Distance to: Ağaçören
3.24047391 43.00% Greek_Cappadocia + 57.00% Turkmen_Iran
3.75135728 42.60% Greek_Rhodes +57.40% Turkmen_TM
3.86345426 42.40% Greek_Cappadocia + 57.60% Turkmen_TM
3.97305643 43.20% Greek_Kos + 56.80% Turkmen_TM
4.29293255 39.00% Greek_Icaria + 61.00% Turkmen_TM
4.29914317 40.00% Greek_Cypriot + 60.00% Turkmen_TM
4.51487248 58.60% Armenian_West + 41.40% Uzbek
4.51630387 40.20% Greek_Cypriot + 59.80% Turkmen_Iran
4.56074155 52.60% Greek_Cappadocia + 47.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
4.69868882 42.80% Greek_Rhodes + 57.20% Turkmen_Iran
4.92440877 43.40% Greek_Crete + 56.60% Turkmen_TM
4.93853945 59.20% Greek_Cappadocia + 40.80% Uzbek
4.96163223 43.40% Greek_Kos + 56.60% Turkmen_Iran
4.96722141 60.20% Armenian_East + 39.80% Uzbek
4.99277744 53.60% Armenian_East + 46.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
5.10129263 42.40% Greek_Fournoi + 57.60% Turkmen_TM
5.14957822 52.00% Armenian_West + 48.00% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
5.41167877 41.80% Armenian_West + 58.20% Turkmen_Iran
5.45262180 47.20% Greek_Pontus + 52.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
5.47436451 41.00% Greek_Izmir + 59.00% Turkmen_TM
5.63084325 58.60% Assyrian_West + 41.40% Uzbek
5.69542524 60.20% Armenian_West + 39.80% Turkmen_Afghanistan
5.72498775 43.20% Armenian_East + 56.80% Turkmen_Iran
5.73497071 60.80% Armenian_West + 39.20% Uzbeki
5.77433730 38.80% Greek_Icaria + 61.20% Turkmen_Iran


Turkmen TM is 20-25% mongoloid
Uzbek is 30% mongoloid
Rest is european(indo european) and west asian

Sora
05-10-2021, 09:04 AM
Hittites/Lydians were Greeks. Also big LOL at the Turkish science you just sent me. Greeks being unrelated to each other? These are just Turk dreams.


WTF?! Dude, what are you really smoking? God has really taken your mind away!

Ok dear, every shit is Greek. No no no! Amerindians are Greek too, and also do Khoisans :speechless-smiley-0:speechless-smiley-0:no::no:

You are just pathetic, may God forgive your sins asap :rolleyes::lmao:bowlol:

Mejgusu
05-10-2021, 09:39 AM
Turkmen TM is 20-25% mongoloid
Uzbek is 30% mongoloid
Rest is european(indo european) and west asian

No, Turkmenistan Turkmens are between 15-40% east eurasian, also Turkmens don’t live just there. Uzbeks are generally speaking 40% east eurasian, they can range between 30-50%, but not 30% on average. Rest is west eurasian , nothing IE. Uzbeks can be modeled as 25% Tadjik who aren’t even fully IE, rest of Uzbek admixture is Turkic. It is ridiculous calling west eurasian as IE.

„Westasian“ is a category which includes wide spectrum of ethnic, linguistic and genetic groups. Westasian Turks are of course Westasian AND Turkic, like Iranians are Westansian and Iranic or Georgians are Westasian and Caucasian. Only people with some complexes can’t accept this and try to deny it.

Altaylı
05-10-2021, 09:49 AM
No, Turkmenistan Turkmens are between 15-40% east eurasian, also Turkmens don’t live just there. Uzbeks are generally speaking 40% east eurasian, they can range between 30-50%, but not 30% on average. Rest is west eurasian , nothing IE. Uzbeks can be modeled as 25% Tadjik who aren’t even fully IE, rest of Uzbek admixture is Turkic. It is ridiculous calling west eurasian as IE.

„Westasian“ is a category which includes wide spectrum of ethnic, linguistic and genetic groups. Westasian Turks are of course Westasian AND Turkic, like Iranians are Westansian and Iranic or Georgians are Westasian and Caucasian. Only people with some complexes can’t accept this and try to deny it.

I am talking about dodecad k12b average and G25 average probably in dodecad k12b TM Turkmens are 20% mongoloid uzbeks are 30% mongoloid
Also I said west asian and IE not fully IE
If we say proto Turkics are mix of Mongoloid and IE technically caucasoid side of Uzbeks are west asian and IE

Mejgusu
05-10-2021, 10:06 AM
I am talking about dodecad k12b average and G25 average probably in dodecad k12b TM Turkmens are 20% mongoloid uzbeks are 30% mongoloid
Also I said west asian and IE not fully IE
If we say proto Turkics are mix of Mongoloid and IE technically caucasoid side of Uzbeks are west asian and IE

This averages obviously are influenced by Non-Uzbeks, even Tadjikistan Uzbeks which i saw often have more than 30% east eurasian. Differences between Tadjiks and Uzbeks aren’t clear often and it is just a matter of self identification and Uzbekistan/Tadjikistan have both rigorous assimilation policies, often people don’t know what they really are.
And steppe admixture was always represented among Turkics or Non-IE people from Central Asia, also „mongoloid“ is often fallacious, not every east eurasian admixture is of Mongolian origin, since nowadays Mongolia was not fully east eurasian all the time.

Altaylı
05-10-2021, 10:20 AM
This averages obviously are influenced by Non-Uzbeks, even Tadjikistan Uzbeks which i saw often have more than 30% east eurasian. Differences between Tadjiks and Uzbeks aren’t clear often and it is just a matter of self identification and Uzbekistan/Tadjikistan have both rigorous assimilation policies, often people don’t know what they really are.
And steppe admixture was always represented among Turkics or Non-IE people from Central Asia, also „mongoloid“ is often fallacious, not every east eurasian admixture is of Mongolian origin, since nowadays Mongolia was not fully east eurasian all the time.

what are you talking about still i don`t understand but,
just i explained mongoloid averages of Turkmen_TM and Uzbek because of i posted 2way of a 10-12% east eurasian Turkish

Distance to: Ağaçören
3.24047391 43.00% Greek_Cappadocia + 57.00% Turkmen_Iran
3.75135728 42.60% Greek_Rhodes +57.40% Turkmen_TM
3.86345426 42.40% Greek_Cappadocia + 57.60% Turkmen_TM
3.97305643 43.20% Greek_Kos + 56.80% Turkmen_TM
4.29293255 39.00% Greek_Icaria + 61.00% Turkmen_TM
4.29914317 40.00% Greek_Cypriot + 60.00% Turkmen_TM
4.51487248 58.60% Armenian_West + 41.40% Uzbek
4.51630387 40.20% Greek_Cypriot + 59.80% Turkmen_Iran
4.56074155 52.60% Greek_Cappadocia + 47.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
4.69868882 42.80% Greek_Rhodes + 57.20% Turkmen_Iran
4.92440877 43.40% Greek_Crete + 56.60% Turkmen_TM
4.93853945 59.20% Greek_Cappadocia + 40.80% Uzbek
4.96163223 43.40% Greek_Kos + 56.60% Turkmen_Iran
4.96722141 60.20% Armenian_East + 39.80% Uzbek
4.99277744 53.60% Armenian_East + 46.40% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
5.10129263 42.40% Greek_Fournoi + 57.60% Turkmen_TM
5.14957822 52.00% Armenian_West + 48.00% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
5.41167877 41.80% Armenian_West + 58.20% Turkmen_Iran
5.45262180 47.20% Greek_Pontus + 52.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
5.47436451 41.00% Greek_Izmir + 59.00% Turkmen_TM
5.63084325 58.60% Assyrian_West + 41.40% Uzbek
5.69542524 60.20% Armenian_West + 39.80% Turkmen_Afghanistan
5.72498775 43.20% Armenian_East + 56.80% Turkmen_Iran
5.73497071 60.80% Armenian_West + 39.20% Uzbeki
5.77433730 38.80% Greek_Icaria + 61.20% Turkmen_Iran

reboun
05-10-2021, 10:24 AM
All Turks are Turanids, there are no other phenotypes there.


I don't think there a nation in the world whose people are only of a single anthropological phenotype.

Kross
05-10-2021, 10:30 AM
I don't think there a nation in the world whose people are only of a single anthropological phenotype.

If you're a mixed race between Caucasoid and Mongoloid you're gonna be Turanid, simply that. You can't be a Caucasoid phenotype such as Pontid when you're mixed race with 60% Central Asian.

Mejgusu
05-10-2021, 10:43 AM
what are you talking about still i don`t understand but,
just i explained mongoloid averages of Turkmen_TM and Uzbek because of i posted 2way of a 10% east eurasian Turkish

How many times do you wanna show this modeling list, it doesn’t change the fact that your comments aren’t accurate. It could be right that many are clustering with Turkmens of Iran or some parts of Turkmenistan, but they aren’t a proxy for early Oghuz Turks. And you highlighted 40% Uzbek which is nonsense, at most for Yörüks or Giresunlu this could be right.

Altaylı
05-10-2021, 10:51 AM
How many times do you wanna show this modeling list, it doesn’t change the fact that your comments aren’t accurate. It could be right that many are clustering with Turkmens of Iran or some parts of Turkmenistan, but they aren’t a proxy for early Oghuz Turks. And you highlighted 40% Uzbek which is nonsense, at most for Yörüks or Giresunlu this could be right.

when will you learn reading? probably you can just speak german not Turkish and English
i didn`t say they are proxy for early Oghuz Turks i just said we are between modern central asians and west asians

if we are talking about how % Turkish people are proto Oghuz Turk then here is a 10-11% east eurasian person from my hometown

3.22862657 72.80% Anatolian + 27.20% KAZ_Karakhanid
3.25806017 71.80% Anatolian + 28.20% KAZ_Kimak
3.62994548 66.20% Anatolian + 33.80% DA89_Kazakhstan_GokTurk.SG_1206_ybp

KAZ_Kimak and KAZ_Karakhanid are 45-50% east asian
DA89_Gokturk is 38% east asian

Hırsın yüzünden okuyamıyorsun bile senin amacın beni çürütmek tartışmak değil!

Mejgusu
05-10-2021, 11:34 AM
....

And still your comments are wrong or not precise, Central Asia is like Westasia, it is not a homogeneous region ethnically or genetically. If you try to attack me with your miserable school education you just show that 1.) you arent adult enough to discuss decently 2) your knowledge about genetics, history and culture is intensely deficient. Beeing personal and trying to attack me with talking my language skills down don’t make your misleading comments right nor they making your repeating postings instructive. If you think I am just here to run you down you are wrong, otherwise i would have reported you to a mod already how you talked about Christians and Christianity here, no I just want to clarify that most of your postings aren’t accurate and often full if mistakes.

You can give thumbs downs but you know that you are wrong. Insulting and giving thumbs down is a character of weak insecure people. I know for you and your other accounts it is just an enjoyment to troll but people like me who are seriously interested in to genetics or history and not to nonsense like „he is bingo-trotolid“ don’t have bad intentions to anything. Hadi sana daha iyi eğlenceler “Ankaralı”.

Altaylı
05-10-2021, 11:44 AM
And still your comments are wrong or not precise, Central Asia is like Westasia, it is not a homogeneous region ethnically or genetically. If you try to attack me with your miserable school education you just show that 1.) you arent adult enough to discuss decently 2) your knowledge about genetics, history and culture is intensely deficient. Beeing personal and trying to attack me with talking my language skills down don’t make your misleading comments right nor they making your repeating postings instructive. If you think I am just here to run you down you are wrong, otherwise i would have reported you to a mod already how you talked about Christians and Christianity here, no I just want to clarify that most of your postings aren’t accurate and often full if mistakes.

what are Turks according to you? How Turkish people aren't between among west asia and modern central asian still i can't understand
Also you are attacking my knowledge everyone can see who knows genetics a bit, modern Turks are clearly between modern central asians and west asians

You don't know anything about Turkish people i am definitely sure i know turkish culture history more than you
Even you can't speak Turkish truly
Also you are insulting me everytime but i am not crying to mods like you
Lol also what i said to christanity

Hektor12
05-10-2021, 11:45 AM
Most of the Eastern half of Turkey is historically ArmenianAS FAR AS I KNOW; history doesnt start with armenians and i can bring a lot of nations here which owned eastern part of Turkey *historically* long before armenians.

(should i even try to educate an armenoid?)

Loki
05-10-2021, 12:48 PM
When you say that they're West Asian, you basically legitimize their presence in Anatolia which is Greek lands since 4000 years ago.

People here need to stop classifying Turks as Pontid, Armenoid, or whatever Caucasoid phenotype! Turks are not even Caucasoid, they're mixed race!

All Turks are Turanids, there are no other phenotypes there.

They speak a Turkic language, identify as such, and look as such.

Turks are just Central Asians.

You need to brush up on your Anatolian history man. Turks are not a homogenized mongrel bunch as you think. Various regions have genetic strains that run for thousands of years, Anatolia was one of the first Indo European strongholds, and has been inhabited ever since by related ethnic groups.

Radimir
05-10-2021, 12:53 PM
Turks are West Asian and Greek.

Sora
05-10-2021, 02:18 PM
You need to brush up on your Anatolian history man. Turks are not a homogenized mongrel bunch as you think. Various regions have genetic strains that run for thousands of years, Anatolia was one of the first Indo European strongholds, and has been inhabited ever since by related ethnic groups.


Loki, don't waste your time to talk this utopist brat. He is a dreamer boy who lives in his dreams and thinks everyone are Greek(even Polynesians & Dravidians are Greek according to him)

Also why is Altaylı banned? He is a nice and intelligent person, as far as I know.

Thracian
05-10-2021, 02:45 PM
That's right! We all are definitely NOT Anatolians.

A333
05-10-2021, 03:20 PM
Turanids are found in Anatolia only as a mixture. a very small minority, if any

A333
05-10-2021, 03:32 PM
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A333
05-10-2021, 04:29 PM
those from central Asia have an iranid mix

Armenian Bishop
05-10-2021, 06:53 PM
AS FAR AS I KNOW; history doesnt start with armenians and i can bring a lot of nations here which owned eastern part of Turkey *historically* long before armenians.

(should i even try to educate an armenoid?)

Tigran the Great's Armenian Empire and the Pontic-Greek Empire of Mithridates VI did form an alliance in the 1st Century BC. it's in historical accounts that date back to the Roman Empire. As for being Armenoid, just look at my avatar photograph (it's me). I recall that (in 2013 and 2014) it was Apricity Turks and Turkic members who were trying to tell this Forum that history started with ancestral Turkic People (even in Europe). The fact is that the Armenian presence, in the area, dates back thousands of years prior to when Seljuk Turks entered the area in the mid-eleventh century (it's no secret).

While Armenians didn't build Egyptian or Inca Pyramids, and there're certainly other things they didn't do, there're a heck of a lot of things that Armenians did do first, with artifacts that precede everyone else: [1] The first and oldest leather shoe, discovered in Armenia (4,500 BC). [2] The oldest winery, discovered in Armenia (5,100 BC). [3] Armenia's Capital (Yerevan) is one of the oldest inhabited cities in the world (established in 2,802 BC). [4] Armenia was the first country to adopt Christianity (301 AD). [5] Noah's Ark landed in the Western Armenian Highlands, in the Mountains of Ararat. [6] Urartu is an Assyrian pronunciation of Ararat -- Urartians were Proto-Armenian People.

I guess that's enough for now. So, a lot of history did start with Armenians or Proto-Armenian People.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Areni-1_shoe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Areni-1_winery
https://www.telegram.com/news/20180317/armenia-first-christian-nation
https://lifestyle.inquirer.net/316761/land-of-noah-armenias-history-and-culture/
https://www.panarmenian.net/eng/news/222703/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Mithridatic_War

reboun
05-10-2021, 08:29 PM
Why was Altaylı banned?

Sora
05-10-2021, 08:34 PM
Why was Altaylı banned?


Because of a stupid fight, I guess

reboun
05-10-2021, 08:56 PM
Because of a stupid fight, I guess

Probably. I hope it is not a permanent ban but rather a short one.

neclar
05-12-2021, 12:25 PM
When you say that they're West Asian, you basically legitimize their presence in Anatolia which is Greek lands since 4000 years ago.

People here need to stop classifying Turks as Pontid, Armenoid, or whatever Caucasoid phenotype! Turks are not even Caucasoid, they're mixed race!

All Turks are Turanids, there are no other phenotypes there.

They speak a Turkic language, identify as such, and look as such.

Turks are just Central Asians.

To say that the Turks are not West Asians in 2021 is like saying that the Greeks are not Southeast Europeans.
Basically, Greek comes from the Proto-Indo-European language, so practically from there come the real Greeks.

Kross
05-12-2021, 12:49 PM
To say that the Turks are not West Asians in 2021 is like saying that the Greeks are not Southeast Europeans.
Basically, Greek comes from the Proto-Indo-European language, so practically from there come the real Greeks.

Turks are neither European nor West Asian. They're just Central Asian invaders of Greek lands. They're just what they are which is Turkic.

Anatolia is Greek.

A333
05-12-2021, 09:27 PM
Indigenous peoples already existed in Anatolia. Greeks came later and colonized Anatolia.