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Question4U
05-10-2021, 05:46 PM
In this thread I want to show examples for Israeli Jews who are themselves or their ancestors came from only one country abroad.
today most of the Israelis have a mixed background but still I was able to find a few examples, all of them are famous Israelis.

Jews of Moroccan background

Amir Ohana
https://i.imgur.com/VIVXjre.jpg
Aryeh Deri
https://i.imgur.com/D06Yb5e.jpg
Idan Haviv
https://i.imgur.com/7KuWVoc.jpg?1
Magi Azarzar
https://i.imgur.com/H2OU0KZ.jpg
Maya Buskila
https://i.imgur.com/gc1Rgyo.jpg
Moran Atias
https://i.imgur.com/Ot4aglY.jpg
Yael Abekasis
https://i.imgur.com/EIK8ry6.jpg
Yuval Dayan
https://i.imgur.com/yVXiNDW.jpg

Question4U
05-10-2021, 05:53 PM
Jews from romanian background

Adir Miller
https://i.imgur.com/ZPTU4BR.jpg
Danny Kushmaro
https://i.imgur.com/ICQsVgZ.jpg?1
Keren Peles
https://i.imgur.com/skebduq.jpg
Michal Yanai
https://i.imgur.com/HXubBZY.jpg
Zvika Hadar
https://i.imgur.com/hACYRrv.jpg

Question4U
05-10-2021, 06:03 PM
Jews from Iraqi background

Dudu Tasa
https://i.imgur.com/NQpwqC4.jpg?1
Eli Yatzpan
https://i.imgur.com/yxrxghO.jpg
Kobi Faraj
https://i.imgur.com/BpbmWwq.jpg?1
Kobi Marimi
https://i.imgur.com/hvr1N0q.jpg
Sigal Shachmon
https://i.imgur.com/6Mw9gOZ.jpg
Zvi Yehezkeli
https://i.imgur.com/VhoxPwO.jpg

Question4U
05-10-2021, 06:16 PM
Jews from Polish background

Yael Bar-Zohar
https://i.imgur.com/CxcoWfw.jpg
Yaakov Litzman
https://i.imgur.com/h40oKHq.jpg?2
Uri Zohar
https://i.imgur.com/oiXWP2p.jpg
Tzvika Pick
https://i.imgur.com/iU5X7FB.jpg?1
Moshe Gafni
https://i.imgur.com/99wMVZY.jpg
Galia Rahav
https://i.imgur.com/z4MoLMb.jpg
Dana Frider
https://i.imgur.com/C2DL6Ag.jpg

Question4U
05-10-2021, 07:15 PM
Jews of Indian background

Liora Itzhak
https://i.imgur.com/DImRfT3.jpg?1

Rina Pushkarna
https://i.imgur.com/a7urmw8.jpg

Question4U
05-10-2021, 07:19 PM
Jews of Tunisian background

Amos Tamam
https://i.imgur.com/zOKnKUi.jpg?1

Silvan Shalom
https://i.imgur.com/8CYKxgy.jpg

Question4U
05-10-2021, 07:30 PM
Jews of Russian background

Anastassia Michaeli
https://i.imgur.com/kxF9m54.jpg
Ania Bukstein
https://i.imgur.com/CPsiDZD.jpg
Anna Zak
https://i.imgur.com/rCKyiym.jpg?1
Diana Golbi
https://i.imgur.com/V6qWc5h.jpg?1
Eliana Tidhar
https://i.imgur.com/WnmxB1G.jpg?1
Lucy Dubinchik
https://i.imgur.com/w1o4KKs.jpg
Yakov Toumarkin
https://i.imgur.com/SHRXPs7.jpg?1

Pine
05-10-2021, 07:50 PM
Jews of Russian background

Anastassia Michaeli
https://i.imgur.com/kxF9m54.jpg
Ania Bukstein
https://i.imgur.com/CPsiDZD.jpg
Anna Zak
https://i.imgur.com/rCKyiym.jpg?1
Diana Golbi
https://i.imgur.com/V6qWc5h.jpg?1
Eliana Tidhar
https://i.imgur.com/WnmxB1G.jpg?1
Lucy Dubinchik
https://i.imgur.com/w1o4KKs.jpg
Yakov Toumarkin
https://i.imgur.com/SHRXPs7.jpg?1

Your Ashkenazi samples before were biased, but here you plainly posted people who are half Jewish and one is simply a Russian convert.

Question4U
05-10-2021, 07:55 PM
Your Ashkenazi samples before were biased, but here you plainly posted people who are half Jewish and one is simply a Russian convert.

can you explain why biased? I try to avoid converts so I would like to know who is convert and what make you sure they are half Jewish?

lustermoo
05-10-2021, 08:03 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210510/db2b542492f86061b7bef73b4bc13e1b.jpg
Famous Tunisian Jewish Presneter in France Cyril Hanouna

Pine
05-10-2021, 08:07 PM
can you explain why biased? I try to avoid converts so I would like to know who is convert and what make you sure they are half Jewish?

You didn't bother to google them?

This is your first one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anastassia_Michaeli


Michaeli was born Anastassia Mikhalevsky in Leningrad in the Soviet Union (now Saint Petersburg in Russia) to a Christian ethnic Russian family.[1][2]

third one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Zak


Her father is of Jewish descent, whereas her mother is not.[17]

Diana Golbi's bio isn't available, but her surname suggests a very high likelihood of Russian ancestry. Do you have bios for the rest? I'm skeptical about most of them. The soviet aliyah was very mixed. Intermarriage rate in the USSR was at 50%. You can't post these people without seeing that they have a bio denoting full Jewish ancestry.

Also, there is no such thing as "Russian Jews" - they're just a collection of Jews who moved there post 1920.

Question4U
05-10-2021, 08:26 PM
You didn't bother to google them?

This is your first one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anastassia_Michaeli



third one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Zak



Diana Golbi's bio isn't available, but her surname suggests a very high likelihood of Russian ancestry. Do you have bios for the rest? I'm skeptical about most of them. The soviet aliyah was very mixed. Intermarriage rate in the USSR was at 50%. You can't post these people without seeing that they have a bio denoting full Jewish ancestry.

Also, there is no such thing as "Russian Jews" - they're just a collection of Jews who moved there post 1920.

of course I google them, but I guess I missed it this time, and yes its very hard to know who is full Jewish when it comes to The soviet Aliyah.

here are the others information that I've found

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Golbi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakov_Toumarkin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ania_Bukstein
https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%90%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%90%D7%A0%D7%94_%D7%AA%D7%93% D7%94%D7%A8 - only in Hebrew
https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%9C%D7%95%D7%A1%D7%99_%D7%93%D7%95%D7%91%D7%99% D7%A0%D7%A6%27%D7%99%D7%A7 - only in Hebrew

Hamilcar
05-10-2021, 08:30 PM
As expected most look fully european

Radimir
05-10-2021, 08:32 PM
Jews really are as numerous as the stars of heaven.

Tooting Carmen
05-10-2021, 08:37 PM
Some of them could pass as South Asian.

Pine
05-10-2021, 08:44 PM
of course I google them, but I guess I missed it this time, and yes its very hard to know who is full Jewish when it comes to The soviet Aliyah.

here are the others information that I've found

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Golbi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakov_Toumarkin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ania_Bukstein
https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%90%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%90%D7%A0%D7%94_%D7%AA%D7%93% D7%94%D7%A8 - only in Hebrew
https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%9C%D7%95%D7%A1%D7%99_%D7%93%D7%95%D7%91%D7%99% D7%A0%D7%A6%27%D7%99%D7%A7 - only in Hebrew

Those pages only reveal that they live in Israel - nothing else, with the exception of Bukstein. Bukstein I don't question as fully Jewish. Same with Tidhar - she isn't from the recent Soviet Aliyah. The only thing suspect about Tourmarkin is sometimes he's listed with the surname Zhuravlev. Golbi is almost surely not fully Jewish. Dubinchik - while her surname suggests her patrilinial side is Jewish, find an actual bio. So far, only Bukstein and Tidhar can be trusted from your list.

Pine
05-10-2021, 08:45 PM
As expected most look fully european

As expected, you make this post.

Pine
05-10-2021, 08:53 PM
Take Deri, Haviv, Buskila, and Dayan from your Moroccan Jewish list and that's how Ashkenazim more commonly look like.

lustermoo
05-10-2021, 09:03 PM
As expected most look fully european

The Iraqi ones seem to have a higher concentration of a “MENA” look

Hamilcar
05-10-2021, 09:05 PM
The Iraqi ones seem to have a higher concentration of a “MENA” look

well aren't they iraqis ?

Hamilcar
05-10-2021, 09:06 PM
As expected, you make this post.

why does it bother you ?

lustermoo
05-10-2021, 09:07 PM
well aren't they iraqis ?

Yea but he didn’t post just European ones

Avicenna
05-10-2021, 09:10 PM
As expected the Ashkenazi Jews look European for the most part . Makes me wonder are some of them larping onto a Jewish bandwagon .

hurtuv
05-10-2021, 09:17 PM
A jew from Portuguese background, NCIS star Daniela Ruah:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Daniela_Ruah_-_Monte-Carlo_Television_Festival.jpg

Targum
05-10-2021, 10:04 PM
The OP cherry-picked, for unknown reasons, his Ashkenazi exemplars, to include all Euro-looking blondes, lol. I and anyone I know, with rare exceptions, don't look like what was posted. 107400These people are a clear minority in any AJ population without modern Euro admix. Gal Gadot's looks are far more typical for Ashkenazi Jews with two Jewish parents.

Question4U
05-11-2021, 05:05 AM
I feel like I need to explain the choices that I've made in this theard, and from seeing some coments I can understand why some of you might be triggered.

First, yes there are many ashkenazim that have a levantine look and I can post here plenty of them but most of them are ashkenazim that their ancestors are from more then just one country so they dont fit the purpose of this theard. And I dont know, I make an assumption here but maybe when you are mixed ashkenazi from several countries it makes your levantine features more obvioues?

Second, while with Sephardim and Mizrahim you don't even need to ask where their ancestors came from, with ashkenazim its much more difficult because if you will ask them what is their background they will just say they are ashkenazi and won't talk about the country or countries their ancestors came from because they feel its irelevant and they dont feel connected to this countries and their traditions in any way.

Third, we are talking about famous people so I guess there might be some beauty standards so its for sure not a representative sample but I would love that if you have better examples you will share it here. I will try to find more diversed examples for the ashkenazim in the next backgrounds I will post.

Humanophage
05-11-2021, 01:21 PM
Soviet Jews in Israel
http://www.ynetnews.com/PicServer2/02012008/1680122/2_wa.jpg https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-38rNj4R_-FA/UccH49xZhAI/AAAAAAAAAgs/tK8rRZMdVaQ/s1600/nordic+aryan+blond+boy+man.jpg https://i.redd.it/14j9snezelw61.png

Soviet Jews in Russia
https://cdn21.img.ria.ru/images/18798/16/187981682_0:231:2805:1820_600x0_80_0_0_3153642bc1d 91035338b042e0ba400bd.jpg https://thesteepletimes.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Leonard-Blavatnik-FI-1.jpg https://uznayvse.ru/images/stories2016/uzn_1472847091.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/474x/4b/64/a7/4b64a7b92b42cda0c561c757e26ee4b4.jpg

Avicenna
05-11-2021, 02:08 PM
Soviet Jews in Israel
http://www.ynetnews.com/PicServer2/02012008/1680122/2_wa.jpg https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-38rNj4R_-FA/UccH49xZhAI/AAAAAAAAAgs/tK8rRZMdVaQ/s1600/nordic+aryan+blond+boy+man.jpg https://i.redd.it/14j9snezelw61.png

Soviet Jews in Russia
https://cdn21.img.ria.ru/images/18798/16/187981682_0:231:2805:1820_600x0_80_0_0_3153642bc1d 91035338b042e0ba400bd.jpg https://thesteepletimes.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Leonard-Blavatnik-FI-1.jpg https://uznayvse.ru/images/stories2016/uzn_1472847091.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/474x/4b/64/a7/4b64a7b92b42cda0c561c757e26ee4b4.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/6ngD7wV/14j9snezelw61.png (https://ibb.co/mD6hVT1)

Why are you posting dogs ?

Avicenna
05-11-2021, 02:08 PM
Am I the only that thinks Hebrew is one of the most unpleasant ugliest languages known to man?


https://youtu.be/yHRuULJ97vQ

Question4U
05-11-2021, 02:52 PM
Jews of Belarusian background

Arkadi Dukhin
https://i.imgur.com/cgeM75m.jpg
Evgenia Dodina
https://i.imgur.com/9rQX0cA.jpg
Yulia Plotkin
https://i.imgur.com/xAcst6z.jpg

Question4U
05-11-2021, 02:55 PM
Jews of Greek background

Hani Nahmias
https://i.imgur.com/kr423sG.jpg?1
Yehuda Poliker
https://i.imgur.com/ESKjHdR.jpg

Hrki
05-11-2021, 02:56 PM
Nina Hartley?

https://media.fstatic.com/DU_NmTlb9ckTc5MUnD79TaNQckk=/full-fit-in/640x0/media/artists/avatar/2012/10/nina-hartley_a101672.jpg

https://editorial01.shutterstock.com/wm-preview-1500/619188c/92ac3a69/nina-hartley-chicago-america-shutterstock-editorial-619188c.jpg

Question4U
05-11-2021, 03:02 PM
Jews of Yemenite background

Gali Atari
https://i.imgur.com/XI2fnR5.jpg
Galit Giat
https://i.imgur.com/zgzTNNV.jpg
Itay Levi
https://i.imgur.com/o8ffv3K.jpg?1
Ofra Haza
https://i.imgur.com/8QdlQkw.jpg?1
Shahar Hasson
https://i.imgur.com/BQgi5pQ.jpg
Shimi Tavori
https://i.imgur.com/wwPIerg.jpg

Question4U
05-11-2021, 03:22 PM
Jews of Ukrainian background

Lior Miller
https://i.imgur.com/ZXJsazI.jpg
Nikol Raidman
https://i.imgur.com/gCS2tmP.jpg
Peter Paltchik
https://i.imgur.com/cmX4q9f.jpg?1
Ruslana Rodina
https://i.imgur.com/zfxshQW.jpg
Marina Maximilian Blumin
https://i.imgur.com/fNErW5C.jpg?1
Tamara Klingon
https://i.imgur.com/fTTh5Ti.jpg
Ze'ev Elkin
https://i.imgur.com/0wJ3Jjm.jpg

Question4U
05-11-2021, 04:18 PM
Jews of Persian background

Eviatar Banai
https://i.imgur.com/lKszBqE.jpg?1
Liraz Charhi
https://i.imgur.com/RKBkbHS.jpg
Rita
https://i.imgur.com/thS9Io5.jpg
Roni Gamzu
https://i.imgur.com/msSxRpr.jpg?1
Shaul Mophaz
https://i.imgur.com/YbfNve0.jpg

Question4U
05-11-2021, 04:25 PM
Jews of Bulgarian background

Arie Moskona
https://i.imgur.com/7vhazlY.jpg?1
Moni Moshonov
https://i.imgur.com/RD4vuHi.jpg
Oshrat Kotler
https://i.imgur.com/Nmv6gZ8.jpg
Yaacov Eilon
https://i.imgur.com/JshgPA1.jpg?1
Yehuda Levi
https://i.imgur.com/GmLatN6.jpg

Question4U
05-11-2021, 05:01 PM
Jews of Kurdish background

Aviv Moshe
https://i.imgur.com/dYTvXW8.jpg
Itzik Kala‏
https://i.imgur.com/7dKXlBe.jpg
Itzik Mordechai
https://i.imgur.com/jJhfr9Z.jpg

Question4U
05-11-2021, 05:04 PM
Jews of Hungarian background

Amir F. Guttman
https://i.imgur.com/bFcgr1T.jpg
Hila Korach
https://i.imgur.com/Z6cTAVt.jpg

Question4U
05-11-2021, 05:28 PM
Jews of Libyan background

Amos Lavi
https://i.imgur.com/dbHj85p.jpg
Eden Saban
https://i.imgur.com/1xOb2Ul.jpg
Eliraz Sade
https://i.imgur.com/u8NpW6Z.jpg
Meni Mazuz
https://i.imgur.com/p1NbYgS.jpg

Targum
05-11-2021, 11:51 PM
Yes you are; the language of the Torah is actually wonderful

Pine
05-12-2021, 12:30 AM
Soviet Jews in Israel
http://www.ynetnews.com/PicServer2/02012008/1680122/2_wa.jpg https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-38rNj4R_-FA/UccH49xZhAI/AAAAAAAAAgs/tK8rRZMdVaQ/s1600/nordic+aryan+blond+boy+man.jpg https://i.redd.it/14j9snezelw61.png

Soviet Jews in Russia
https://cdn21.img.ria.ru/images/18798/16/187981682_0:231:2805:1820_600x0_80_0_0_3153642bc1d 91035338b042e0ba400bd.jpg https://thesteepletimes.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Leonard-Blavatnik-FI-1.jpg https://uznayvse.ru/images/stories2016/uzn_1472847091.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/474x/4b/64/a7/4b64a7b92b42cda0c561c757e26ee4b4.jpg

None of the ones pictured for Israel are Soviet Jews.

placebo
05-12-2021, 12:38 AM
https://iaysr.tmgrup.com.tr/cebbcd/780/411/0/98/1200/730?u=https://iysr.tmgrup.com.tr/2018/03/30/can-bonomo-da-dolandiricilarin-hedefi-oldu-1522399814183.jpeg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYV6SnRXgAU4ymC.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qJeiWIsxtA

turkish jews. they don't look much different than local people except the man in the second pic.

aherne
05-12-2021, 04:37 AM
Cherry-picking at its highest... Not even 10% of Israelis look that European and 50% are of Ashkenazi blood.

Question4U
05-12-2021, 03:05 PM
Jews of Turkish background

Adi Ashkenazi
https://i.imgur.com/0WM8pzM.jpg
Aki Avni
https://i.imgur.com/2SOXB2I.jpg
Avi Biter
https://i.imgur.com/lyTlTSW.jpg?1
Berry Sakharof
https://i.imgur.com/pfYBHVs.jpg?1
Lea Shabat
https://i.imgur.com/c1FH6LI.jpg
Moshe Bar Siman Tov
https://i.imgur.com/RHFdBH7.jpg

Question4U
05-12-2021, 03:06 PM
https://iaysr.tmgrup.com.tr/cebbcd/780/411/0/98/1200/730?u=https://iysr.tmgrup.com.tr/2018/03/30/can-bonomo-da-dolandiricilarin-hedefi-oldu-1522399814183.jpeg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYV6SnRXgAU4ymC.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qJeiWIsxtA

turkish jews. they don't look much different than local people except the man in the second pic.

what do you think about those I posted? will they pass in Turkey?

Humanophage
05-12-2021, 03:35 PM
None of the ones pictured for Israel are Soviet Jews.
[German humour mode] It is a joke that the "Soviet Jews" in Israel are mostly North Europeans larping as Jews, while the socially powerful "Soviet Jews" in Russia are actual Jews.

Question4U
05-12-2021, 03:36 PM
Jews of Ethiopian background

Almaz Mangisto
https://i.imgur.com/HcfW3M1.jpg
Baruch Dego
https://i.imgur.com/Oby0sDv.jpg?1
Branu Tagania
https://i.imgur.com/WJdcm72.jpg?1
Hagit Yaso
https://i.imgur.com/npguwt2.jpg
Tahounia Rubel
https://i.imgur.com/nJVx15h.png?1

Question4U
05-12-2021, 03:52 PM
Jews of Georgian background

Dover Kosashvili
https://i.imgur.com/gjs6BUB.jpg
Refael Mirila
https://i.imgur.com/BFlns6Q.jpg
Rinat Bar
https://i.imgur.com/iwGFQ8W.jpg?1
Shalom Michaelahvili
https://i.imgur.com/Ly8V8T1.jpg?1
Tzipi Hotovely
https://i.imgur.com/ibuUAWx.jpg?1
Zvulun Moshiashvili
https://i.imgur.com/ixjieLg.jpg

Question4U
05-12-2021, 04:03 PM
Jews of Egyptian background

Eli Avidar
https://i.imgur.com/qbXHkAT.jpg
Haim Saban
https://i.imgur.com/ktCusMa.jpg

Sentinel
05-12-2021, 04:03 PM
Jews of Libyan background

Amos Lavi
https://i.imgur.com/dbHj85p.jpg
Eden Saban
https://i.imgur.com/1xOb2Ul.jpg
Eliraz Sade
https://i.imgur.com/u8NpW6Z.jpg
Meni Mazuz
https://i.imgur.com/p1NbYgS.jpg

Very Berberid look. Would pass well in Tunisia.
(Except the girl maybe, seems quite SSA influenced. I don't say this pheno doesn't exist here but it's less usual).

Question4U
05-12-2021, 04:40 PM
Jews of Bukharan background

Hay Davidov
https://i.imgur.com/zhRtI65.jpg
Idan Yaniv
https://i.imgur.com/bK5sqVy.jpg?1
Israel Aharoni
https://i.imgur.com/yU5QeVV.jpg?1
Lev Leviev‏
https://i.imgur.com/LPHJQDd.jpg

Question4U
05-12-2021, 05:29 PM
Jews of Lithuanian background

Geulah Even
https://i.imgur.com/K2NmeU2.jpg?1
Jascha Heifetz
https://i.imgur.com/qV3g6hQ.jpg?1

lustermoo
05-12-2021, 05:46 PM
Very Berberid look. Would pass well in Tunisia.
(Except the girl maybe, seems quite SSA influenced. I don't say this pheno doesn't exist here but it's less usual).

All the men are Israelis that just grew up in Libya/born there, they don’t look close to either the Berber or eastern Libyan /Arab population here

placebo
05-12-2021, 05:56 PM
what do you think about those I posted? will they pass in Turkey?

all of them can pass.

Sentinel
05-12-2021, 06:21 PM
All the men are Israelis that just grew up in Libya/born there, they don’t look close to either the Berber or eastern Libyan /Arab population here

The first wears well the traditionnal outfit. He just has green eyes and depigmented, otherwise he looks what he is. The second passes too.
I didn't really counted the fird, too old to really have a good idea.

Don't forget a lot of jew of North Africa were also ethnic natives, they didn't all came from Iberia.

Pine
05-12-2021, 06:36 PM
The first wears well the traditionnal outfit. He just has green eyes and depigmented, otherwise he looks what he is. The second passes too.
I didn't really counted the fird, too old to really have a good idea.

Don't forget a lot of jew of North Africa were also ethnic natives, they didn't all came from Iberia.

lol

Question4U
05-13-2021, 01:48 PM
mountain Jews (Caucasus)
julietta
https://i.imgur.com/EphVDHY.jpg
Lior Refaelov
https://i.imgur.com/XxAckhR.jpg?1
Sarit Hadad
https://i.imgur.com/VzpI1XA.jpg

Question4U
05-13-2021, 02:16 PM
Jews of Italian background

Enrico Levi
https://i.imgur.com/YNrKkEf.jpg
reuven bonfil
https://i.imgur.com/45beUO3.jpg?2

Pine
05-13-2021, 02:41 PM
well aren't they iraqis ?

no

Hamilcar
05-13-2021, 02:53 PM
no

their ethnogenesis has nothing to with europe unlike most western jews that's what I meant

Pine
05-13-2021, 02:54 PM
their ethnogenesis has nothing to with europe unlike most western jews that's what I meant

It's ok. You never mean what you say.

Hamilcar
05-13-2021, 03:00 PM
It's ok. You never mean what you say.

So you really thought I view them as similar to other iraqis ?

Question4U
05-13-2021, 06:18 PM
Uzbekistan
Alexander Shatilov
https://i.imgur.com/8iQbXMC.jpg?1

Kyrgistan
Anna Aronov
https://i.imgur.com/XW3v0LM.jpg

Moldova
Avigdor Lieberman
https://i.imgur.com/Ks0nimj.jpg

The Netherlands
Daphne De Groot
https://i.imgur.com/h3oVtyb.jpg

Germany
Hanna Maron
https://i.imgur.com/CbIp2KZ.jpg

Algeria
Israel Katorza
https://i.imgur.com/kveeWnO.jpg

Belgium
Joy Rieger
https://i.imgur.com/cUbRoz4.jpg

Austria
Shiye Feigenbaum
https://i.imgur.com/7xxACwB.jpg?1

France
Yael Naim
https://i.imgur.com/kOk89bK.jpg

Dirdepo
05-13-2021, 06:31 PM
Polish Jew - Meyer Lansky
107463

Hrki
05-13-2021, 06:35 PM
Weinstein?

https://cdn.xsd.cz/resize/31b3df8ca46035189992f14f90fec6bf_resize=1191,1750_ .jpg?hash=1189bf1ff6d33101e406a790b8ec0535

Pine
05-13-2021, 08:39 PM
Uzbekistan
Alexander Shatilov
[img]https://i.imgur.com/8iQbXMC.jpg?1[/ig]

Kyrgistan
Anna Aronov
[img]https://i.imgur.com/XW3v0LM.jpg[/ig]

Moldova
Avigdor Lieberman
[img]https://i.imgur.com/Ks0nimj.jpg[/ig]

The Netherlands
Daphne De Groot
[img]https://i.imgur.com/h3oVtyb.jpg[/ig]

Germany
Hanna Maron
[img]https://i.imgur.com/CbIp2KZ.jpg[/ig]

Algeria
Israel Katorza
[img]https://i.imgur.com/kveeWnO.jpg[/mg]

Belgium
Joy Rieger
[img]https://i.imgur.com/cUbRoz4.jpg[/mg]

Austria
Shiye Feigenbaum
[img]https://i.imgur.com/7xxACwB.jpg?1[/ig]

France
Yael Naim
[img]https://i.imgur.com/kOk89bK.jpg[/ig]

There are no Jews surnamed Shatilov. He's also clearly not Bukharian. What makes you think De Groot is fully Jewish? There is no such thing as Kyrgyzstani Jews. A few migrated there a couple decades ago. It's a meaningless category. The French Jew you have could easily be North African. Most of the older Jewish population was annihilated. Belgian Jews are also likely recent. You guys can safely disregard this thread. He's just finding Israelis on wiki, with no care for the details (except to give a biased view of Ashkenazim). You all do this on your own on a daily basis.

Pine
05-13-2021, 08:39 PM
Polish Jew - Meyer Lansky
107463

Belarusian Jew

Dirdepo
05-13-2021, 08:47 PM
Belarusian Jew

Non-Israeli Jew (deported), born in Poland

Pine
05-13-2021, 08:53 PM
Non-Israeli Jew (deported), born in Poland

He was born in Grodno. Grodno is in Belarus.

Dirdepo
05-13-2021, 08:56 PM
He was born in Grodno. Grodno is in Belarus. It was Poland at the time, but it's not a historically Polish Jewish city.

What are you debating with me, go work on your sunburn

Dirdepo
05-13-2021, 08:57 PM
Quick post rearrange lol

Pine
05-13-2021, 08:58 PM
What are you debating with me, go work on your sunburn

I ate 2 of your goats.

Pine
05-13-2021, 08:58 PM
Quick post rearrange lol

Double checked - it wasn't even Poland at the time.

Hamilcar
05-13-2021, 09:02 PM
There are no Jews surnamed Shatilov. He's also clearly not Bukharian. What makes you think De Groot is fully Jewish? There is no such thing as Kyrgyzstani Jews. A few migrated there a couple decades ago. It's a meaningless category. The French Jew you have could easily be North African. Most of the older Jewish population was annihilated. Belgian Jews are also likely recent. You guys can safely disregard this thread. He's just finding Israelis on wiki, with no care for the details (except to give a biased view of Ashkenazim). You all do this on your own on a daily basis.

I'm curious to know what you consider typically ashkenazi jew. Can you post some examples ?

Question4U
05-13-2021, 09:41 PM
to close this thread here are some other Ashkenazim that I don't know where they ancestors came from but anyway they look darker or stereotypic so here you go...

Naphtali Bennett
https://i.imgur.com/pCBqekJ.jpg?1
Yiftach Klein
https://i.imgur.com/RoxEYPU.jpg
Asaf Amdursky
https://i.imgur.com/Phe9zSL.jpg
Idan Raichel
https://i.imgur.com/yAmdpKR.jpg
Gal Fridman
https://i.imgur.com/ems5KFq.jpg
Kalman Liebskind
https://i.imgur.com/KEuC21o.jpg
Shai Goldstein
https://i.imgur.com/BZjWmcM.jpg
Yair Lapid
https://i.imgur.com/I2tY2RZ.jpg?1

Jaromir
05-13-2021, 09:47 PM
that Shai Goldstein looks like one of our members from the US

Pine
05-13-2021, 09:57 PM
I'm curious to know what you consider typically ashkenazi jew. Can you post some examples ?


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zXZPITOZ7TY/hqdefault.jpg
https://www.theawl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ben-stein-economics-teacher-ferris-bueller-day.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b8/40/4e/b8404eb13b4b560492501855e9abeacb.jpg
https://www.history.com/.image/ar_1:1%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cq_aut o:good%2Cw_1200/MTU3ODc5MDgyOTM5MzkzNzU5/henry-kissinger-speaking-to-senate.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/41/e7/b2/41e7b2666c79b3ca5e91e802df464403.jpg

Ayetooey
05-13-2021, 10:09 PM
Shai Goldstein
https://i.imgur.com/BZjWmcM.jpg

Reminds me of Varg.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5b/Varg_Vikernes-3.jpg

Hamilcar
05-13-2021, 10:26 PM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zXZPITOZ7TY/hqdefault.jpg
https://www.theawl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ben-stein-economics-teacher-ferris-bueller-day.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b8/40/4e/b8404eb13b4b560492501855e9abeacb.jpg
https://www.history.com/.image/ar_1:1%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cq_aut o:good%2Cw_1200/MTU3ODc5MDgyOTM5MzkzNzU5/henry-kissinger-speaking-to-senate.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/41/e7/b2/41e7b2666c79b3ca5e91e802df464403.jpg

They look similar to most people posted here tbh and do you think your examples look more european or levantine ?

Question4U
05-13-2021, 10:32 PM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zXZPITOZ7TY/hqdefault.jpg
https://www.theawl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ben-stein-economics-teacher-ferris-bueller-day.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b8/40/4e/b8404eb13b4b560492501855e9abeacb.jpg
https://www.history.com/.image/ar_1:1%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cq_aut o:good%2Cw_1200/MTU3ODc5MDgyOTM5MzkzNzU5/henry-kissinger-speaking-to-senate.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/41/e7/b2/41e7b2666c79b3ca5e91e802df464403.jpg

I see you are into caricatures :rolleyes:

Unknown European
05-13-2021, 11:06 PM
Only half of your examples are legit. For the Ashkenazi these are some famous Ashkenazi Jews I find to have a common look within the whole population

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/Rahm_Emanuel%2C_official_photo_portrait_color.jpg
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/EA4A/production/_86587995_fuchs_getty.jpg
https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/steven-1615739336.jpg?crop=0.668xw:1.00xh;0.197xw,0&resize=480:*
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Dave_portnoy_%2848571713636%29_%28cropped%29.jpg/800px-Dave_portnoy_%2848571713636%29_%28cropped%29.jpg
https://resizing.flixster.com/AhbN1yFnyXAx6bCuGk6-4uKqMOU=/506x652/v2/https://flxt.tmsimg.com/v9/AllPhotos/72042/72042_v9_ba.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/Jeff_Goldblum_by_Gage_Skidmore_3.jpg/800px-Jeff_Goldblum_by_Gage_Skidmore_3.jpg
https://www.indiewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/screen-shot-2018-04-03-at-1-10-15-pm.png?w=780

Unknown European
05-13-2021, 11:47 PM
Polish Jew https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bf/35/8e/bf358e3d2d1a0b5773ea765192141ea6.jpg

Ethiopian Jew https://c8.alamy.com/comp/D1RP14/portrait-of-a-religious-asian-hassidic-jew-photographed-at-lubavitch-D1RP14.jpg

Russian Jews https://blog.nationalgeographic.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/PHOTO-1-DSC_3033-Version-4.jpg

Iraqi Jew https://blog.nationalgeographic.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Aborigine.jpg

French Jew https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/En-chief-sitting-bull.jpg/1200px-En-chief-sitting-bull.jpg

I think these examples are better than any of Question4U's LOL

Pine
05-14-2021, 12:14 AM
They look similar to most people posted here tbh and do you think your examples look more european or levantine ?

They're not similar to the Ashkenazim posted here. Almost all of them could either be Levantine or peripheral European. There is an east med continuum and it shows up phenotypically as well.

Pine
05-14-2021, 12:26 AM
Here is a representative spectrum of "Russian Jews" (not a real category):

https://coveteur.com/media-library/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yNTM3NTUxMi9vcmlnaW4 uanBnIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTYzNjY0MDg0NX0.LgT4_2kMZ D8RDHhxLF1Nf9Hj_SzaDxw_hGgRpff_5b0/image.jpg?width=1200&height=675
https://modelsocietyintl.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/ilya-grad_male-model_the-model-society-international_modeling-agency-in-bangkok-thailand.jpg?w=412&h=471&crop=1
https://persona.rin.ru/eng/galery/25541.jpg
https://www.muscleandfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/main-bar-paly-.jpg?quality=86&strip=all
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/B9936B/variety-actor-gennady-khazanov-B9936B.jpg
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/google-inc-cofounder-sergey-brin-looks-on-during-a-question-and-picture-id103917783?s=612x612
https://variety.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/4096636r.jpg?w=681&h=383&crop=1
https://i1.wp.com/biographe.ru/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/42323423.jpg

Unknown European
05-14-2021, 12:45 AM
Here is a representative spectrum of "Russian Jews" (not a real category):

Technically the Pale of Settlement included some small areas presently within Russian borders, for example, Chabad-Lubavitch gets its name from Lyubavichi which is located in Russia today, and is a couple of miles from Belarus. Probably less than 1% of American Jews who say their ancestors were from Russia do not actually have any family that immigrated from within present Russian borders.

Pine
05-14-2021, 12:48 AM
Technically the Pale of Settlement included some small areas presently within Russian borders, for example, Chabad-Lubavitch gets its name from Lyubavichi which is Russia today, and is a couple of miles from Belarus. Probably less than 1% of American Jews who say their ancestors were from Russia do not actually have any family that immigrated from within present Russian borders.

I stuck to OP's rules and chose Ashkenazim born in the Russian Federation. But you're absolutely right, almost no one who claims Jewish ancestry from Russia ever had an ancestor within the present country. The same applies to those I chose. They're born in Russia, but their grandparents, great-grandparents etc almost surely weren't.

Ruggery
05-14-2021, 12:56 AM
British and German Jews?

Pine
05-14-2021, 01:06 AM
British and German Jews?

British Jews aren't a real category.

Ruggery
05-14-2021, 01:10 AM
British Jews aren't a real category.

There is no such category?

Pine
05-14-2021, 01:14 AM
There is no such category?

Jews got expelled from England a long time ago. Modern ones are from all over and almost all very recent.

Ruggery
05-14-2021, 01:42 AM
Jews got expelled from England a long time ago. Modern ones are from all over and almost all very recent.

I would have to ask Longbowman he is a British Jew, according to him his English ancestry is distant.

Unknown European
05-14-2021, 02:09 AM
German Jews
107478 Albert Einstein
107479 Henry Kissinger
107480 Paul Spiegel
107482 Nathan Marcus Adler
107483 Burt Bacharach
107484 Julius Kahn
107485 J. Robert Oppenheimer
107486 Leon Fischel (I am related to him)

Longbowman
05-14-2021, 02:06 PM
Jews got expelled from England a long time ago. Modern ones are from all over and almost all very recent.

400 years isn't so recent.

If we're not a real category neither are Romanian Jews.

Pine
05-14-2021, 02:23 PM
400 years isn't so recent.

If we're not a real category neither are Romanian Jews.

What % were Sephardim? How many of you descend solely or even mostly from that group? I bet none.

Longbowman
05-14-2021, 02:58 PM
What % were Sephardim? How many of you descend solely or even mostly from that group? I bet none.

There are a few older people who do descend mostly, including some second cousins and so on, akshually. Perhaps a couple of purebloods but I highly doubt it.

Natixy
05-14-2021, 03:05 PM
Take Deri, Haviv, Buskila, and Dayan from your Moroccan Jewish list and that's how Ashkenazim more commonly look like.

U are so stupid if u say that they looks ashkenazi. But what can i expect from Erev Rav! Like u -.-

Pine
05-14-2021, 03:41 PM
U are so stupid if u say that they looks ashkenazi. But what can i expect from Erev Rav! Like u -.-

Too much trolling is treyf.

masria
04-27-2022, 03:02 PM
If you want typical Ashke take crowd pics of hassid and have fun counting blond blue eyes guys 🤣 it will not be long I assure you that. Why people are so biased about Ashke and why they care so much, I can post you many mizrahim and séfaradim and syrians and Lebanese blond blue eyes ( or course they are not the majority like for the Ashke) and I can post very dark Ashke too 😉 in my family the Ashke are way more southerners lmiddle easterner than the mizrahim of my family, way way more 😘

Florstadt
12-01-2023, 09:16 AM
Very Berberid look. Would pass well in Tunisia.
(Except the girl maybe, seems quite SSA influenced. I don't say this pheno doesn't exist here but it's less usual).

She is half Ethiopian.

catgeorge
12-01-2023, 10:06 AM
Looks like Marxism to me - much like the USA despite hiding under in the shadows of Liberty. U.S is cultural Marxist,

Flashball
12-01-2023, 10:58 AM
Ethnicelebs > Ashkenazi (Poland, Russia, Germany, etc

Ashkenazi actors
https://ethnicelebs.com/josh-altman
https://ethnicelebs.com/adam-arkin
https://ethnicelebs.com/jesse-eisenberg
https://ethnicelebs.com/mark-zuckerberg
https://ethnicelebs.com/hallie-eisenberg
https://ethnicelebs.com/eli-roth
https://ethnicelebs.com/jonathan-chase
https://ethnicelebs.com/erin-krakow
https://ethnicelebs.com/sera-gamble
https://ethnicelebs.com/leslie-grossman
https://ethnicelebs.com/michael-lerner
https://ethnicelebs.com/ann-druyan
https://ethnicelebs.com/philip-glass
https://ethnicelebs.com/richard-kind
https://ethnicelebs.com/burt-bacharach
https://ethnicelebs.com/david-sheff
https://ethnicelebs.com/chuck-sklar
https://ethnicelebs.com/hanna-stein
https://ethnicelebs.com/denise-rich
https://ethnicelebs.com/adam-rich
https://ethnicelebs.com/jeff-rake
https://ethnicelebs.com/jon-abrahams
https://ethnicelebs.com/david-alan-basche
https://ethnicelebs.com/heather-lindell
https://ethnicelebs.com/mila-kunis
https://ethnicelebs.com/lesley-boone
https://ethnicelebs.com/montana-tucker
https://ethnicelebs.com/jared-cohn
https://ethnicelebs.com/robert-morse
https://ethnicelebs.com/fran-lebowitz
https://ethnicelebs.com/eyal-booker
https://ethnicelebs.com/wallace-wolodarsky
https://ethnicelebs.com/bill-goldberg
https://ethnicelebs.com/kira-soltanovich
https://ethnicelebs.com/erin-daniels
https://ethnicelebs.com/larry-harlow
https://ethnicelebs.com/bonnie-aarons
https://ethnicelebs.com/robert-smigel
https://ethnicelebs.com/larry-thomas
https://ethnicelebs.com/iris-bahr
https://ethnicelebs.com/brett-goldstein
https://ethnicelebs.com/blake-garrett-rosenthal
https://ethnicelebs.com/jonathan-jakubowicz
https://ethnicelebs.com/dj-cassidy
https://ethnicelebs.com/brett-pierce
https://ethnicelebs.com/norman-lloyd
https://ethnicelebs.com/kerri-strug
https://ethnicelebs.com/adam-salky
https://ethnicelebs.com/lindsey-broad
https://ethnicelebs.com/max-joseph
https://ethnicelebs.com/claudia-wells
https://ethnicelebs.com/charles-roven
https://ethnicelebs.com/steve-antin
https://ethnicelebs.com/jackie-tohn
https://ethnicelebs.com/lalo-schifrin
https://ethnicelebs.com/antony-blinken
https://ethnicelebs.com/harley-morenstein