Do you consider Greeks to look “exotic”?

[Dimitri159]

Greeks and non-Greeks, tell me what you think.

[Dimitri159]

I think somewhat. Somewhere in between. Not as exotic as MENA’s or Pakistanis but we definitely don’t look as “white” as most other Europeans.

[Tooting Carmen]

Some are.

[Dimitri159]

Some are.

How much experience to you have with Greeks? Do you know a lot?

[Tooting Carmen]

How much experience to you have with Greeks? Do you know a lot?

I've met a few over the years.

[Dimitri159]

I've met a few over the years.

Oh okay.

[Asten]

Greeks and non-Greeks, tell me what you think.

Yeah some looks like they straight up from middle east, same apply to Albanians and Balkanites. Hot brown girl for sure, my Norid detector is throbbing. :cool:

[Decius]

Somewhat

[lockdownboredom]

yeah, from my experience the average Greek looks like this handsome devil

https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/9cf/a97/3ef14f0e030797de1704ad1936d9e339a7-Jason-Mantzoukas.rsquare.w1200.jpg

[stellan]

Depends where they’re from

[Mortimer]

Exotic is subjective. I would think a ginger like Prince Harry is exotic in Greece, not the other way around. But in northern europe, they are somewhat exotic. But once my teacher said "Italians are not really exotic they have a bit of a flavor but not really exotic".

[Luso]

yeah, from my experience the average Greek looks like this handsome devil

https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/9cf/a97/3ef14f0e030797de1704ad1936d9e339a7-Jason-Mantzoukas.rsquare.w1200.jpg

That’s just not true. Greeks are a very cool looking bunch, like Italians, and Iberians. Not to say middle easterners aren’t that would be dissing myself. I agree there are “exotic” types in Greece but I’ve never been so that would be an assumption... as any country has “exotic” people.

[Dimitri159]

Depends where they’re from

Let me guess.... “Islanders, Cypriots and Pontians look exotic. Mainland Greeks don’t.”?

Personally I know some Cypriots & Islanders and they don’t look that different from mainland Greeks honestly, just a little darker.

[stellan]

Let me guess.... “Islanders, Cypriots and Pontians look exotic. The rest don’t.”?

Well yeah, considering they're not even European genetically

[Dimitri159]

Well yeah, considering they're not even European genetically

Europeans can look exotic too. Mainland Greeks are often times “Dinaro-Med” or “Litorid”. Those phenotypes would definitely be considered “exotic” by the general European standard.

[Dimitri159]

Well yeah, considering they're not even European genetically

Oh and islanders are genetically “European” in a sense they are mostly Greek genetically.

[JamesBond007]

That’s just not true. Greeks are a very cool looking bunch, like Italians, and Iberians. Not to say middle easterners aren’t that would be dissing myself. I agree there are “exotic” types in Greece but I’ve never been so that would be an assumption... as any country has “exotic” people.

I beez cool shieet I beez like nigga ya'll !


It used to be that only Protestant Germanics were considered white but nowadays 'white' is pretty meaningless as even the US government considers some non-European groups 'white'. I am not nordicist either as West Germanics have some Celt blood and East Germanics some slav blood etc... but "White" as a term has been Jewed into meaningless. Also, I am not being divisive as 'white unity' is a joke. Nation states have a better chance of kicking out foreigners than the chance that "all white nations will unite ! Then kick out all foreigners collectively!" ! Yeah , what kind of crack cocaine are people smoking ? That would take centuries.


There are no 'white people' there are Anglos, Germans, French, Latins, slavs etc...


Here is an a Greek man or two Greek men(not necessarily average either but that is not the point because I will be using exotic English people as a counterpoint ):

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/bdct58/old-greek-peasant-with-white-mustache-no-teeth-portrait-santorini-bdct58.jpg

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/actor-jason-mantzoukas-photographed-for-self-assignment-on-june-23-in-picture-id816135706

contrast that with some really exotic British people:

https://images.mubicdn.net/images/cast_member/26763/cache-102837-1416851559/image-w856.jpg?size=800x

https://lthumb.lisimg.com/925/19529925.jpg?width=280&sharpen=true

^ Exotic ? I consider those British people to be exotic but Greeks are beyond 'exotic' to me although I am sure there are 'whiter' looking Greeks than I posted but by the same token they are whiter looking Anglos than I posted.

Do I want to oppress Greeks for not appearing 'white' ? No! But stay the fuck out of England please.

[Luso]

I beez cool shieet I beez like nigga ya'll !


It used to be that only Protestant Germanics were considered white but nowadays 'white' is pretty meaningless as even the US government considers some non-European groups 'white'. I am not nordicist either as West Germanics have some Celt blood and East Germanics some slav blood etc... but "White" as a term has been Jewed into meaningless. Also, I am not being divisive as 'white unity' is a joke. Nation states have a better chance of kicking out foreigners than the chance that "all white nations will unite ! Then kick out all foreigners collectively!" ! Yeah , what kind of crack cocaine are people smoking ? That would take centuries.


There are no 'white people' there are Anglos, Germans, French, Latins, slavs etc...


Here is an a Greek man or two Greek men(not necessarily average either but that is not the point because I will be using exotic English people as a counterpoint ):

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/bdct58/old-greek-peasant-with-white-mustache-no-teeth-portrait-santorini-bdct58.jpg

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/actor-jason-mantzoukas-photographed-for-self-assignment-on-june-23-in-picture-id816135706

contrast that with some really exotic British people:

https://images.mubicdn.net/images/cast_member/26763/cache-102837-1416851559/image-w856.jpg?size=800x

https://lthumb.lisimg.com/925/19529925.jpg?width=280&sharpen=true

^ Exotic ? I consider those British people to be exotic but Greeks are beyond 'exotic' to me although I am sure there are 'whiter' looking Greeks than I posted but by the same token they are whiter looking Anglos than I posted.

Do I want to oppress Greeks for not appearing 'white' ? No! But stay the fuck out of England please.

That second man has the same skin color as me.

I'm not talking about England, nor do I care.

[Dimitri159]

That second man has the same skin color as me.

I'm not talking about England, nor do I care.

It's not always skin color, but facial features too.

[Dimitri159]

I beez cool shieet I beez like nigga ya'll !


It used to be that only Protestant Germanics were considered white but nowadays 'white' is pretty meaningless as even the US government considers some non-European groups 'white'. I am not nordicist either as West Germanics have some Celt blood and East Germanics some slav blood etc... but "White" as a term has been Jewed into meaningless. Also, I am not being divisive as 'white unity' is a joke. Nation states have a better chance of kicking out foreigners than the chance that "all white nations will unite ! Then kick out all foreigners collectively!" ! Yeah , what kind of crack cocaine are people smoking ? That would take centuries.


There are no 'white people' there are Anglos, Germans, French, Latins, slavs etc...


Here is an a Greek man or two Greek men(not necessarily average either but that is not the point because I will be using exotic English people as a counterpoint ):

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/bdct58/old-greek-peasant-with-white-mustache-no-teeth-portrait-santorini-bdct58.jpg

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/actor-jason-mantzoukas-photographed-for-self-assignment-on-june-23-in-picture-id816135706

contrast that with some really exotic British people:

https://images.mubicdn.net/images/cast_member/26763/cache-102837-1416851559/image-w856.jpg?size=800x

https://lthumb.lisimg.com/925/19529925.jpg?width=280&sharpen=true

^ Exotic ? I consider those British people to be exotic but Greeks are beyond 'exotic' to me although I am sure there are 'whiter' looking Greeks than I posted but by the same token they are whiter looking Anglos than I posted.

Do I want to oppress Greeks for not appearing 'white' ? No! But stay the fuck out of England please.

Well said, thank you. WE ARE NOT WHITE, period! Only the Alpines in Greece can pass as "white".
Though Jason Mantzoukas doesn't necessarily look Greek either, he looks more Arabian or Iranian to me. The first man though, a perfect example of a Greek Dinaro-Med.

[Mikula]

Somewhat.
It depends what do you mean saying exotic.
I had a classmate of Greek origin and he looked very non-Czech. In this case we can use the term exotic.
To be accurate:
Exotic to be a Czech?
- Yes
- Exotic to be considered as a white and European?
No.

[Benyzero]

Generally yes, but I know they are european after all. Even in my region you can find exotic looking people, not all europeans have the stereotype white look.

[Immanenz]

Europeans can look exotic too. Mainland Greeks are often times “Dinaro-Med” or “Litorid”. Those phenotypes would definitely be considered “exotic” by the general European standard.

Swedes are "exotic" too, for Southeuros even more- the Scandinavian look is rare or becomes nonexistent in many areas of Europe (therefor it qualifies as exotic)
Pakis arent feeling exotic among themselves, but the British surely are for them.

You are either a. Sikelot or a fanboy of his b. a troll or c. Owd (doubt it, normally the approach is different- they just start posting pan- Euro individuals).

[Renekton]

We are not <exotic>

We are Southern Europeans.

[Super Mario]

There are many Assyroid&Iranoid&Armenoid type Greeks but more European types can be found easier.

[mitalit]

Not in Spain, but in other countries like Norway or Iran yes.

[Tooting Carmen]

There are no 'white people' there are Anglos, Germans, French, Latins, slavs etc...

Up to a point I sympathise with this perspective. To paraphrase Joseph de Maistre: "There is no such thing as 'Whites'. I have seen Frenchmen, Italians, Russians. But as for 'Whites', I can declare I have never encountered them".

[Avicenna]

Not in Spain, but in other countries like Norway or Iran yes.

I know this will get absolutely grilled, but where would they really stand out ? Norway or Iran?

Norway

https://i.ibb.co/Y2YMzFV/NINTCHDBPICT000001369154.jpg (https://ibb.co/1Zh5Dt4)

Greece

https://i.ibb.co/SwM3q3V/Greece-national-football-team-2010-11-17.jpg (https://ibb.co/1GPmHmR)

Iran ( bottom left and bottom right seem to be non Iranians )

https://i.ibb.co/QK2bDSs/al-ain-fc-vs-esteghlal-tehran-f-c-united-arab-emirates-shutterstock-editorial-10241936ad.jpg (https://ibb.co/0GgDs4P)

[mitalit]

I know this will get absolutely grilled, but where would they really stand out ? Norway or Iran?

Norway

https://i.ibb.co/Y2YMzFV/.jpg (https://ibb.co/1Zh5Dt4)

Greece

(https://ibb.co/)

Iran ( bottom left and bottom right seem to be non Iranians )

(https://ibb.co/0GgDs4P)

Well, I was just referring to the thing that the Greeks look different and therefore exotic in the two countries. If you think they don't look different in Iran, that's fine, you can change that country for another.

[Dimitri159]

We are not <exotic>

We are Southern Europeans.

[Dimitri159]

We are not <exotic>

We are Southern Europeans.

Well southern Europeans ARE exotic. Your taxonomy is “Dinarid-Med”, that would definitely be considered an exotic look to the general European standard.

[Freeroostah]

Eh somewhat, but the same thing applies for other Balkan people too. it's the Neolithic blood I guess

[Defcon2]

Well southern Europeans ARE exotic. Your taxonomy is “Dinarid-Med”, that would definitely be considered an exotic look to the general European standard.

What is the European standard?

[Dimitri159]

What is the European standard?

Pretty much soft and supple features. Small & concave noses, rounder faces, small to medium eyes, etc.... Types like Faelid, Atlantid, Nordic, Alpine, Gorid, Baltid, Brunn, Borreby, etc.

[Immanenz]

Pretty much soft and supple features. Small & concave noses, rounder faces, small to medium eyes, etc.... Types like Faelid, Atlantid, Nordic, Alpine, Gorid, Baltid, Brunn, Borreby, etc.

did you ever even step foot on European soil or just pretend that you opened any anthrobook? Do you realize that Coon has posted textbook Dinaric-Med, Alpine-Dinarics etc. from France and Slovakia which is deep Centraleuro? Some are even Beglium/Netherlands, but this already NW-Europe...

[Jana]

Pretty much soft and supple features. Small & concave noses, rounder faces, small to medium eyes, etc.... Types like Faelid, Atlantid, Nordic, Alpine, Gorid, Baltid, Brunn, Borreby, etc.

Visit Europe before making ridiculous statements.

[Dimitri159]

did you ever even step foot on European soil or just pretend that you opened any anthrobook? Do you realize that Coon has posted textbook Dinaric-Med, Alpine-Dinarics etc. from France and Slovakia which is deep Centraleuro? Some are even Beglium/Netherlands, but this already NW-Europe...

But it is rare to find pure Dinarid-Med or Med types as far as Slovakia and Belgium. And if they are, they’re often mixed with additional Northern Euro types as well. I don’t have to go to “European soil” when I see all sorts of people of Euro ancestry here in Canada, or I can also easily tell just by watching YouTube videos of random people in the streets of Belgium compared to Greece.

[Cristiano viejo]

No. Scandinavians are more exotic since they only pass in their own countries and maybe Russia while Greeks pass in half of Europe.

[Dimitri159]

I swear, too many people are obsessed with trying to “unify” Europeans as one nowadays, it’s so annoying.

[Dimitri159]

No. Scandinavians are more exotic since they only pass in their own countries and maybe Russia while Greeks pass in half of Europe.

Yeah, keep dreaming.

[Dušan]

Well southern Europeans ARE exotic. Your taxonomy is “Dinarid-Med”, that would definitely be considered an exotic look to the general European standard.

:picard1:

[Dimitri159]

No. Scandinavians are more exotic since they only pass in their own countries and maybe Russia while Greeks pass in half of Europe.

Only a portion of the southern half (a few Balkan countries and Italy), not even in Spain tbh. The rest of Europe Greeks would look exotic in comparison.

[Cristiano viejo]

Only a portion of the southern half (a few Balkan countries and Italy), not even in Spain tbh. The rest of Europe Greeks would look exotic in comparison.

Millions of Gricos pass in Spain and viceversa. Yet Gricos pass in more Euro countries than Scandinavians. From which planet have you arrived??

[Dimitri159]

Millions of Gricos pass in Spain and viceversa. Yet Gricos pass in more Euro countries than Scandinavians. From which planet have you arrived??

Do Spaniards have large convex noses and large eyes like many Greeks do? I don’t think so, try again.

[Avicenna]

I swear, too many people are obsessed with trying to “unify” Europeans as one nowadays, it’s so annoying.

Serious question, do you think if we asked the ancient Greeks who they felt more affinity towards, the Germanic barbarians/ Vikings or the persians / achamenids, what would they say?

[Cristiano viejo]

Do Spaniards have large convex noses and large eyes like many Greeks do? I don’t think so, try again.

That is a minority in Gricoland, try again.

[Dimitri159]

So none of these people look exotic to you people? Are you kidding?


https://youtu.be/q3_ufZfwQFo


https://youtu.be/CoAlygmpR0E

[Dimitri159]

That is a minority in Gricoland, try again.

Where do you base your claim? You’re gonna tell a Greek who has been to Greece that we don’t have convex noses? Coon classified about 50% of Greeks had convex noses in “The Races of Europe”. That’s about the se nasal profile as Arabs in his book.... TRY AGAIN. And watch the videos I posted.

[Dimitri159]

That is a minority in Gricoland, try again.

Where do you base your claim? You’re gonna tell a Greek who has been to Greece that we don’t have convex noses? Coon classified about 50% of Greeks had convex noses in “The Races of Europe”. That’s about the se nasal profile as Arabs in his book.... TRY AGAIN. And watch the videos I posted.

[Dimitri159]

Serious question, do you think if we asked the ancient Greeks who they felt more affinity towards, the Germanic barbarians/ Vikings or the persians / achamenids, what would they say?

That’s easy. Philosophers have already quoted on that, and the answer is the Easterners. At least the east had advanced civilization, and the Greeks were well aware of that.

[Cristiano viejo]

Where do you base your claim? You’re gonna tell a Greek who has been to Greece that we don’t have convex noses? Coon classified about 50% of Greeks had convex noses in “The Races of Europe”. That’s about the se nasal profile as Arabs in his book.... TRY AGAIN. And watch the videos I posted.
You are not Greek but a Canadian with probably Jewish ancestry. If you were Greek you would not attack Greeks and if you were not Jewish you would not defend Jews as you do.

Coon probably was not in Greece in all his life, but even if he was I could not care less. Unlike people like you, I have my own opinion.

And I will not be Greek but I am seeing Greeks during all my life.

[Avicenna]

That’s easy. Philosophers have already quoted on that, and the answer is the Easterners. At least the east had advanced civilization, and the Greeks were well aware of that.

You seem unbiased , are you sure you are Greek ?

[Renekton]

Well southern Europeans ARE exotic. Your taxonomy is “Dinarid-Med”, that would definitely be considered an exotic look to the general European standard.

Well yes in some Northern Europeans which they never set a foot in South yes. Let alone the Americans including the retard Jamesbond007.

Also put the whole Western Balkans in the spectrum of Exotic DinaroMed.

[Dimitri159]

You are not Greek but a Canadian with probably Jewish ancestry. If you were Greek you would not attack Greeks and if you were not Jewish you would not defend Jews as you do.

Coon probably was not in Greece in all his life, but even if he was I could not care less. Unlike people like you, I have my own opinion.

And I will not be Greek but I am seeing Greeks during all my life.

Such a generic insult lmao, “Jewish ancestry”. Whatever.

First of all, who cares if I live in Canada? Are you aware that there’s literally such thing as a whole Greek diaspora that’s almost as large as the population of Greece itself? Also not to mention that we don’t mix with other ethnic groups hardly ever. I’ve been to Greece before as well. So regardless of whether or not you believe I’m “not Greek enough”, I still have far more experience than you do.

Second, I’m not “attacking” Greeks. I prefer to be exotic over huwhite, haven’t you realized that yet you fool?!

[Dimitri159]

Coon probably was not in Greece in all his life, but even if he was I could not care less. Unlike people like you, I have my own opinion.e.

Coon traveled all over the Balkans and spent most of his time there in Albania and Greece. He stated that Dinaricization is common in Greeks (aka “convex noses”!)....

[lustermoo]

Such a generic insult lmao, “Jewish ancestry”. Whatever.

First of all, who cares if I live in Canada? Are you aware that there’s literally such thing as a whole Greek diaspora that’s almost as large as the population of Greece itself? Also not to mention that we don’t mix with other ethnic groups hardly ever. I’ve been to Greece before as well. So regardless of whether or not you believe I’m “not Greek enough”, I still have far more experience than you do.

Second, I’m not “attacking” Greeks. I prefer to be exotic over huwhite, haven’t you realized that yet you fool?!

Do you think you aren’t white?

[Renekton]

Do you think you aren’t white?

Greeks in general they are whites at least the vast majority

[Dimitri159]

You seem unbiased , are you sure you are Greek ?

Do you mean biased? Well yeah, I am biased. We’re all biased to some extent, it’s human nature. And I’m half Greek, but I have enough experience to speak about my people, so yeah.

[Jaromir]

because they are friendly, they are less exotic than toxic Viejoids

[lustermoo]

Greeks in general they are whites at least the vast majority

Yes I agree they are white because they are European and that’s what it’s always been I don’t understand this recent thing of placing people or countries as someone they’re not

I saw someone here say yesterday Lebanon should’ve been an extension of Southern Europe

[Zeno]

A retarded and repetitive thread, made and commented by unironically retarded people.

You have no lives, obviously.

Dimitri, stop, right fucking now. You're tiring af.

[Jaromir]

A retarded and repetitive thread, made and commented by unironically retarded people.

You have no lives, obviously.

fully agreed if you mean for example Cillian Garcia Viejo from E-berberia

btw, I voted "no"

[Zeno]

fully agreed if you mean for example Cillian Garcia Viejo from E-berberia

btw, I voted "no"

No, I mean ALL posters who unironically even bothered to answer the the retard OP.

[Renekton]

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[Dimitri159]

Yes I agree they are white because they are European and that’s what it’s always been I don’t understand this recent thing of placing people or countries as someone they’re not

I saw someone here say yesterday Lebanon should’ve been an extension of Southern Europe

If that’s how you wanna look at it. I would say generally that Levantine Arabs in specific (especially Lebanon) and Sephardic/Ashkenazi Jews particularly don’t look that different from Greeks, Sicilians/s. Italians, Albanians, etc.

[Benyzero]

No, I mean ALL posters who unironically even bothered to answer the the retard OP.

I answer whoever I want lil angry nigga

[Dimitri159]

Do you think you aren’t white?

I’m not sure. I would like to not be personally, but from the looks of it Greeks and non-Greeks are too attached with Greeks being huwhite. Personally I think we look a little different, in a better way too. Exotically beautiful. Huwhites look too plain and too supple.

[Hulu]

Not really. I would say the average looks more like Jamie Dimon, but with brown eyes. No difference with his American wasp wife.

https://th.bing.com/th/id/R614537e885fb1714f18c819dd969ee9d?rik=37XtM075dk2F pA&riu=http%3a%2f%2fdailyentertainmentnews.com%2fwpgo %2fwp-content%2fuploads%2f2014%2f07%2fJudith-Kent-Jamie-Dimon-wife-pic.jpg&ehk=0PffMi8EfS5%2f8Uyo3m%2fuUAvPD0%2fRt7Es3yvRzAPp QnU%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw

[Dimitri159]

Let me make this clear: What exactly see “exotic” features to you people? What are considered “non-European features”?

[Renekton]

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[Dimitri159]

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Apart from the first image, they look exotic AF. In the last image I can literally spot mostly Dinaro-Meds and even a few Armenoids tbh (but they could have Pontian heritage).

[Renekton]

Apart from the first image, they look exotic AF.

Η είσαι τυφλός και δεν βλέπεις καλά ή είσαι προβοκάτορας.

Καμία σχέση με τους βρομιλους μεσοανατολιτες.. Όσο και να προσπαθείς να συνδέσεις τον κόσμο μας με αυτούς.

[Dimitri159]

Dimitri, stop, right fucking now. You're tiring af.

I’m sorry. Don’t read the thread then I guess.

[Dimitri159]

Not really. I would say the average looks more like Jamie Dimon, but with brown eyes. No difference with his American wasp wife.

https://th.bing.com/th/id/R614537e885fb1714f18c819dd969ee9d?rik=37XtM075dk2F pA&riu=http%3a%2f%2fdailyentertainmentnews.com%2fwpgo %2fwp-content%2fuploads%2f2014%2f07%2fJudith-Kent-Jamie-Dimon-wife-pic.jpg&ehk=0PffMi8EfS5%2f8Uyo3m%2fuUAvPD0%2fRt7Es3yvRzAPp QnU%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw

Something about Jamie Dimon looks quite exotic, but I can’t put my finger on it. It’s like Epstein, he looks “somewhat” exotic but not fully.
As for his wife, she too is exotic, but she doesn’t look Anglo (she looks very Jewish imo). She definitely must stand out like a soar thumb among fellow huwhite Anglos.

[lustermoo]

If that’s how you wanna look at it. I would say generally that Levantine Arabs in specific (especially Lebanon) and Sephardic/Ashkenazi Jews particularly don’t look that different from Greeks, Sicilians/s. Italians, Albanians, etc.

Levantines look VERY different

Ashkenazis, yes but I believe those people even cluster fairly close to Sicilians and such so it wouldn’t be surprising

[Immanenz]

Thats just Sikelot sock or some fanboy who does not even know that Basque and French have a relativly high fregency for convex noses.
Also saying as a supposed half Greek Dinaro Med looks more exotic than Baltid, this can come only from some low IQ troll.

[Dimitri159]

Η είσαι τυφλός και δεν βλέπεις καλά ή είσαι προβοκάτορας.

Καμία σχέση με τους βρομιλους μεσοανατολιτες.. Όσο και να προσπαθείς να συνδέσεις τον κόσμο μας με αυτούς.

The Armenoid and Dinarid component definitely has some overlap with “dirty Middle Easterners”. Keep dreaming.

And Middle Easterners aren’t “dirty”, they’re far cleaner than Euros. In their religions they must wash their hands extensively even after touching a dog. They’re exceedingly clean, perhaps a little too clean though.... Whenever I visit a Middle Easterners’ home, it smells way better, and also it’s richer and way more clean/tidy than the average Euro Canadian home.

[Jana]

Where do you base your claim? You’re gonna tell a Greek who has been to Greece that we don’t have convex noses? Coon classified about 50% of Greeks had convex noses in “The Races of Europe”. That’s about the se nasal profile as Arabs in his book.... TRY AGAIN. And watch the videos I posted.

I wouldn't take Coon as relevant source. Maybe for some groups he is, for some def. no. He classified 70% of Croats as dinarid, which is frankly ridiculous.

[Avicenna]

Do you mean biased? Well yeah, I am biased. We’re all biased to some extent, it’s human nature. And I’m half Greek, but I have enough experience to speak about my people, so yeah.

No I meant unbiased . All the Greeks on this forum would disagree with what you say, but that doesn't necessarily make it untrue either .

[Jana]

I think the problem here is obvious. OP lives in North America, where idea of white is based on people of NW Euro ancestry (in Canada Brits and northern French).
So in comparison with generic white American/Canadians Greeks are somewhat exotic.

But that has nothing to do with Europe. In Europe, apart from some far north no one sees Greeks as exotic (similarly like far south Euros may see north Euros as exotic)

Dumb thread, as already stated.

[Dimitri159]

Thats just Sikelot sock or some fanboy who does not even know that Basque and French have a relativly high fregency for convex noses.
Also saying as a supposed half Greek Dinaro Med looks more exotic than Baltid, this can come only from some low IQ troll.

But the vast majority of Iberians are not Basques.

And Dinaro-Med does look more exotic than Baltid, Dinaro-Med looks strikingly similar to Armenoid. Baltids have round, soft and supple facial features.

[Hulu]

Something about Jamie Dimon looks quite exotic, but I can’t put my finger on it. It’s like Epstein, he looks “somewhat” exotic but not fully.
As for his wife, she too is exotic, but she doesn’t look Anglo (she looks very Jewish imo). She definitely must stand out like a soar thumb among fellow huwhite Anglos.

She doesn't look exotic at all, unless you count the colored brown hair exotic. Epstein didn't look exotic either.

[Dimitri159]

Thats just Sikelot sock or some fanboy who does not even know that Basque and French have a relativly high fregency for convex noses.
Also saying as a supposed half Greek Dinaro Med looks more exotic than Baltid, this can come only from some low IQ troll.

But the vast majority of Iberians are not Basques.

And Dinaro-Med does look more exotic than Baltid, Dinaro-Med looks strikingly similar to Armenoid. Baltids have round, soft and supple facial features.

[Dimitri159]

Levantines look VERY different

Ashkenazis, yes but I believe those people even cluster fairly close to Sicilians and such so it wouldn’t be surprising

In what way exactly? I know quite a few Levantines, and even though they are darker/swarthier than Greeks & Italians, they have strikingly similar facial features like the eyes, noses, heads, etc. After all, Orientalid is a Mediterranean type, just a darker/swarthier version according to most anthropologists.

[Hulu]

But the vast majority of Iberians are not Basques.

And Dinaro-Med does look more exotic than Baltid, Dinaro-Med looks strikingly similar to Armenoid. Baltids have round, soft and supple facial features.

European majority is not known for round soft facial features. That is Asians :D or even Blacks. Majority of Europe is Germany and France who have a good Dinaric component as well as Britain who has it in the form of Keltid Nordids.

[Jana]

But the vast majority of Iberians are not Basques.

And Dinaro-Med does look more exotic than Baltid, Dinaro-Med looks strikingly similar to Armenoid. Baltids have round, soft and supple facial features.

Irrelevant. To southern Euros east Baltids look strikingly similar to Uralids and Lappids. It depends on perspective. Both Baltids and Dinaro-Meds are white and European types.

[Immanenz]

But the vast majority of Iberians are not Basques.

And Dinaro-Med does look more exotic than Baltid, Dinaro-Med looks strikingly similar to Armenoid. Baltids have round, soft and supple facial features.

A dark pigmented Atlanto/ Gracile Med looks "exotic"- cerainly more than a Dinarid like Belgium Goalkeeper Courtois. But the Baskid is widespread through the Iberian peninsula, it is not nose soleily that makes someone "exotic".
Now Baltid proper looks super alien for Westeuros, the problem is you dont even know what Baltid looks like- like every cute chubby blonde is a Baltid.

[Dimitri159]

European majority is not known for round soft facial features. That is Asians :D or even Blacks. Majority of Europe is Germany and France who have a good Dinaric component as well as Britain who has it in the form of Keltid Nordids.

Then explain why Europeans always distinguished the hook nosed, robust and swarthy Jews from the "cute, soft and supple" Europeans in propaganda throughout history? The answer is simple, because Europeans are for the most part soft and supple. Irish and Anglos may be an exception with the Kelto-Nordic component, but they are still heavily mixed with Nordic, Brunn, etc.

[Immanenz]

But the vast majority of Iberians are not Basques.

And Dinaro-Med does look more exotic than Baltid, Dinaro-Med looks strikingly similar to Armenoid. Baltids have round, soft and supple facial features.

A dark pigmented Atlanto/ Gracile Med looks "exotic"- cerainly more than a Dinarid like Belgium Goalkeeper Courtois. But the Baskid is widespread through the Iberian peninsula, it is not nose soleily that makes someone "exotic".
Now Baltid proper looks super alien for Westeuros, the problem is you dont even know what Baltid looks like- like every cute chubby blonde is a Baltid.

[lustermoo]

In what way exactly? I know quite a few Levantines, and even though they are darker/swarthier than Greeks & Italians, they have strikingly similar facial features like the eyes, noses, heads, etc. After all, Orientalid is a Mediterranean type, just a darker/swarthier version according to most anthropologists.

It’s just facial features, colouring etc

Jordanians, Palestinians in general, they just look different, it’s very obvious

And I don’t care for these mediterranean types or whatever because this is grouped in “Mediterranid”

http://humanphenotypes.net/Targid.html

And this is a million miles away from Italians and Greeks

Even Indid is classified as “Mediterranid” so I don’t pay much attention to that

[Jana]

Then explain why Europeans always distinguished the hook nosed, robust and swarthy Jews from the "cute, soft and supple" Europeans in propaganda throughout history? The answer is simple, because Europeans are for the most part soft and supple. Irish and Anglos may be an exception with the Kelto-Nordic component, but they are still heavily mixed with Nordic, Brunn, etc.

Can you be more retarded? Idealised European look is sharp featured, sharp and straight nosed Nordic/Med. Jew caricatures were in form of exeggerated Armenoids who look heavily MENA and obviously foreign (most Jews don't look lik that though). If you are so fond of idiotic nazi propaganda, than mention that "soft and supple"East Baltids were targeted as subhuman race by them.

You're a troll who has no idea about Europe nor Europeans.

[Hulu]

Then explain why Europeans always distinguished the hook nosed, robust and swarthy Jews from the "cute, soft and supple" Europeans in propaganda throughout history? The answer is simple, because Europeans are for the most part soft and supple. Irish and Anglos may be an exception with the Kelto-Nordic component, but they are still heavily mixed with Nordic, Brunn, etc.

First of all that was a caricature, most of the jews I have seen in my jew city don't have such noses. It's funny how you accept the Keltid component in Brits and exclude the Dinaric from Frank Germans who are the majority of Europe. Of course they both have Brunn and mainland Europe have Alpine on the other spectrum but so have it the Mena in the form of Asian Alpine. The difference in noses is the width, Menas and other non Euros have wider noses in general. As well as the waker bone structure the shallow placement of the eyes.

[Renekton]

The Armenoid and Dinarid component definitely has some overlap with “dirty Middle Easterners”. Keep dreaming.

And Middle Easterners aren’t “dirty”, they’re far cleaner than Euros. In their religions they must wash their hands extensively even after touching a dog. They’re exceedingly clean, perhaps a little too clean though.... Whenever I visit a Middle Easterners’ home, it smells way better, and also it’s richer and way more clean/tidy than the average Euro Canadian home.

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Yeah yeah I see that

Clean and Hygiene Middle Easterns

[Dimitri159]

She doesn't look exotic at all, unless you count the colored brown hair exotic. Epstein didn't look exotic either.

If she's not exotic then Ashkenazis Jews are not exotic, because she looks very Jewish.

[Dimitri159]

It’s just facial features, colouring etc

Jordanians, Palestinians in general, they just look different, it’s very obvious

And I don’t care for these mediterranean types or whatever because this is grouped in “Mediterranid”

http://humanphenotypes.net/Targid.html

And this is a million miles away from Italians and Greeks

Even Indid is classified as “Mediterranid” so I don’t pay much attention to that

Then explain to me what Levantine facial features are like compared to Greek and Italian. I personally see that if Levantines were to be a little less swarthy, they’d look almost exactly the same as Greeks and Italians. Same eyes, same noses, etc.

[Jana]

Btw Jews aren't "robust" at all lol. Average Jews are more gracile than average Europeans by far. lol

[Hektor12]

As a whole no. But there are some exotic individuals which look too afroasiatic.

[Dimitri159]

Btw Jews aren't "robust" at all lol. Average Jews are more gracile than average Europeans by far. lol

If they were gracile then they wouldn't be known for having long, hook noses.

[Dimitri159]

Btw Jews aren't "robust" at all lol. Average Jews are more gracile than average Europeans by far. lol

Okay maybe I don’t mean to say “robust”, but rather “prominent” features. Thanks for correcting me.

[Dimitri159]

107459107460

Yeah yeah I see that

Clean and Hygiene Middle Easterns

1. Where are most refugees in Greece from? Be careful when labeling Pakistanis or Afghanis as “Middle Eastern”, because they’re actually not.

2. Those are refugees, I don’t think that’s the ideal way of living for them either. Middle Easterners here where I live are wealthy and very clean.

3. Most refugees from the Middle East proper come mainly from Syria or Iraq. Saudis, Lebanese, Israelis, UAE, Kuwaiti’s, etc. are very clean on the other hand, and their countries are middle to wealthy and very well kept.

[KingOf]

https://vacations.aircanada.com/en/all-destinations/europe

[lustermoo]

1. Where are most refugees in Greece from? Be careful when labeling Pakistanis or Afghanis as “Middle Eastern”, because they’re actually not.

2. Those are refugees, I don’t think that’s the ideal way of living for them either. Middle Easterners here where I live are wealthy and very clean.

3. Most refugees from the Middle East proper come mainly from Syria or Iraq. Saudis, Lebanese, Israelis, UAE, Kuwaiti’s, etc. are very clean on the other hand, and their countries are middle to wealthy and very well kept.

I appreciate that you are not racist towards MENA and don’t just bash them based on stereotypes and are actually respectful and truthful, I respect that a lot.

[Luso]

Enough with the exotic shit :picard2: I get I was insecure ab it myself, but to put an entire country into the conversation of "exotic" is absolutely retarded.

[Avicenna]

1. Where are most refugees in Greece from? Be careful when labeling Pakistanis or Afghanis as “Middle Eastern”, because they’re actually not.

2. Those are refugees, I don’t think that’s the ideal way of living for them either. Middle Easterners here where I live are wealthy and very clean.

3. Most refugees from the Middle East proper come mainly from Syria or Iraq. Saudis, Lebanese, Israelis, UAE, Kuwaiti’s, etc. are very clean on the other hand, and their countries are middle to wealthy and very well kept.

Please don't bring Afghanistan into this . We are far cleaner than Pakistanis , even our tramps on the streets .

[Benyzero]

Btw Jews aren't "robust" at all lol. Average Jews are more gracile than average Europeans by far. lol

Stearsolinananananananan

[Jana]

Stearsolinananananananan

I actually base that on my experiences in Budapest. Budapest Jews are so gracile, scrawny and skinny compared to much more robust Hungarians who look like bears in comparsion with them.
If he wasn't so tall, Stears would fit Jewish nerdy stature very well, since he is atypically gracile for a Magyar.

[Renekton]

1. Where are most refugees in Greece from? Be careful when labeling Pakistanis or Afghanis as “Middle Eastern”, because they’re actually not.

2. Those are refugees, I don’t think that’s the ideal way of living for them either. Middle Easterners here where I live are wealthy and very clean.

3. Most refugees from the Middle East proper come mainly from Syria or Iraq. Saudis, Lebanese, Israelis, UAE, Kuwaiti’s, etc. are very clean on the other hand, and their countries are middle to wealthy and very well kept.

Mostly they are from Syria, Iraq, Egypt

Few percent are from Afghanistan and Pakistan

These photos are from Athens and they are Syrians, Iraqis and Iranians
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[Dimitri159]

I appreciate that you are not racist towards MENA and don’t just bash them based on stereotypes and are actually respectful and truthful, I respect that a lot.

Of course. I get along well with many of them where I’m from. Generally I get along with all people, Canada isn’t as much of a racially hostile mess like America is.

[stellan]

boring thread. op seems mentally ill

[Dimitri159]

I appreciate that you are not racist towards MENA and don’t just bash them based on stereotypes and are actually respectful and truthful, I respect that a lot.

Of course. I get along well with many of them where I’m from. Generally I get along with all people, Canada isn’t as much of a racially hostile mess like America is.

[Mantuano]

boring thread. op seems mentally ill

Best mtDNA ever.

[Dimitri159]

boring thread. op seems mentally ill

Then why are you commenting on it, loser?

[Dimitri159]

I actually base that on my experiences in Budapest. Budapest Jews are so gracile, scrawny and skinny compared to much more robust Hungarians who look like bears in comparsion with them.
If he wasn't so tall, Stears would fit Jewish nerdy stature very well, since he is atypically gracile for a Magyar.

You’re right, I meant to say prominent features, not robust. Jews aren’t robust but rather more small and skinny.

[Avicenna]

Mostly they are from Syria, Iraq, Egypt

Few percent are from Afghanistan and Pakistan

These photos are from Athens and they are Syrians, Iraqis and Iranians
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My friend , no offence but your comparisons are not reasonable . Compare your poor peasants who are homeless with them and then it will be fair.

[Luso]

Then why are you commenting on it, loser?

bc the thread is pretty cringe. Exotic that, exotic this, it's meaningless.

[Renekton]

My friend , no offence but your comparisons are not reasonable . Compare your poor peasants who are homeless with them and then it will be fair.

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Poor Greeks

[Dimitri159]

.

You're a troll who has no idea about Europe nor Europeans.

Lmao I’m only a troll because you disagree.

[Ayetooey]

Exotic is subjective. A dinarid or alpine med mainland greek can pass widely across Greece, the balkans, Italy, perhaps turkey. That’s quite a large amount of land. Some platinum blonde fenno-nordid can’t pass anywhere in the world outside of Finland and among a few irrelevant uralic tribes.

[Dimitri159]

bc the thread is pretty cringe. Exotic that, exotic this, it's meaningless.

That’s literally my point, THEN IGNORE IT.

[Ayetooey]

That’s literally my point, THEN IGNORE IT.

I think you got bullied during your youth hence your complexes. You should seek mental health counselling instead of just attacking everyone.

[Dimitri159]

I think you got bullied during your youth hence your complexes. You should seek mental health counselling instead of just attacking everyone.

??
I just said ignore it if it’s cringe. I’m not begging everyone to come to the thread, and I’m not trying to attack anyone either. But I will insult back to people like you commenting BS like this. I was insulted first so obviously I’m gonna attack.

[Benyzero]

I actually base that on my experiences in Budapest. Budapest Jews are so gracile, scrawny and skinny compared to much more robust Hungarians who look like bears in comparsion with them.
If he wasn't so tall, Stears would fit Jewish nerdy stature very well, since he is atypically gracile for a Magyar.

You are right queen slayer of all subhumans

[Zeno]

Listen up Dimitri.

You are obsessed with Greeks being non-European. Stop. We went from OWD to OMED (Off Middle Eastern Dilemma) now?

We are not looking like Middle Easterners. Just like we don't look like Northern Europeans. We are our own thing.

Now case closed, close this thread.

[Dimitri159]

We are not looking like Middle Easterners. Just like we don't look like Northern Europeans. We are our own thing.

Now case closed, close this thread.

Fair enough. But many Middle Easterners (in the Levant) look Southern European also.

[Zeno]

boring thread. op seems mentally ill

As if we haven't seen the same theme for the billionth time.

[joanna_38]

[sigh] depends on which region and family background you look at. you will find different people on the west side of Greece, on the north side, on the east side and on the south side. it's all about region.

[Gallop]

I have only seen the Greeks on the island of Kos and I did not find them exotic at all.

[MandM]

From the main land i would say the some pontic greeks look more at home in north east of Anatolia then in greece

[Pietro97]

No

The Greeks are beautiful

[Luso]

No

The Greeks are beautiful

So is exotic an insult to you? I honeslty don’t understand anymore... I asked on another forum which is just normal people, not TA, and they said they use exotic to mean beautiful... on here it seems it has a super negative connotation.

[Pietro97]

So is exotic an insult to you? I honeslty don’t understand anymore... I asked on another forum which is just normal people, not TA, and they said they use exotic to mean beautiful... on here it seems it has a super negative connotation.

I didn't say that the exotic is an insult

It's highly likely that you are misreading things altogether

I said that they are beautiful in a post totally different from the subject.

[Dimitri159]

I have only seen the Greeks on the island of Kos and I did not find them exotic at all.

What even are "exotic features" to you? Most Europeans would say larger eyes and convex noses are exotic enough, in which many Greeks (especially islanders) posses.

[Dimitri159]

I have only seen the Greeks on the island of Kos and I did not find them exotic at all.

Did the average Greek in Kos look anything like these people? Because these people look very exotic.
https://youtu.be/l0c-_j1uMdA
https://youtu.be/-AjtgySHDlg

[Gallop]

Did the average Greek in Kos look anything like these people? Because these people look very exotic.
https://youtu.be/l0c-_j1uMdA
https://youtu.be/-AjtgySHDlg

I went to Kos for a few hours, maybe a whole afternoon since I was staying in Turkey.

Maybe I did not get to see so many native people, maybe a man in a store seemed to me to be from the Near East, he was very heavy, he did not let me go, but I can not be sure that this man was a native of Koss because in other stores I found sales clerks from northern Europe, confirmed by themselves.

I saw other people where I ate e.t.c. that did not seem exotic to me, maybe it is something difficult to understand for someone who is not European but; although there are regional differences and even from north to south it seems from what I see that northern Europeans do not feel the strangeness that apparently southern Europeans seem to perceive when it comes to detecting Europeanness, in short some makeup phenotypes do not confuse us, maybe northern Europeans do, I do not know.

We know how to integrate regional exoticisms and see that they are continental.

It must be something like that.

[Dimitri159]

I went to Kos for a few hours, maybe a whole afternoon since I was staying in Turkey.

Maybe I did not get to see so many native people, maybe a man in a store seemed to me to be from the Near East, he was very heavy, he did not let me go, but I can not be sure that this man was a native of Koss because in other stores I found sales clerks from northern Europe, confirmed by themselves.

I saw other people where I ate e.t.c. that did not seem exotic to me, maybe it is something difficult to understand for someone who is not European but; although there are regional differences and even from north to south it seems from what I see that northern Europeans do not feel the strangeness that apparently southern Europeans seem to perceive when it comes to detecting Europeanness, in short some makeup phenotypes do not confuse us, maybe northern Europeans do, I do not know.

We know how to integrate regional exoticisms and see that they are continental.

It must be something like that.

You must have seen more tourists and/or foreign residences. The natives would have looked like the people in those videos above, which imo is quite exotic. But that’s just from my perception.

[Geni]

And where is the problem with the exotic greecs ? :rolleyes:....should we all look like german paesants to be acceptabel for you ? ....:phone::fuck:

[catgeorge]

Who cares what they look like.. Greek islanders have the longest life expectancy on the planet


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2t2AWaRo1g


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erSmSrLeIvQ

[Chocolate_Hound]

To be fair I've met my fair share of Greeks that I wouldn't consider "white" at least not physically. I have met Turks lighter than them on average.

[Dimitri159]

That is a minority in Gricoland, try again.

Okay, Cristiano. How about all of these Greeks with large, "salty eyes" and medium to large convex noses?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3_ufZfwQFo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOU-F0geVNQ&t=30s


Millions of Gricos pass in Spain and viceversa. Yet Gricos pass in more Euro countries than Scandinavians. From which planet have you arrived??

And ironically you are, or were at least, firm on the notion that Italians are somehow more exotic-looking "Armenoids" with a bunch of Al Pacino's, but nope not Greeks. Even though Greece is many miles closer to Anatolia and the Levant than what Italy is, let's just ditch logic. Be real with me, have you been to Greece and Italy? What connection do you feel with Greeks that you do not with Italians? Stay in your place. You are west European, Greeks are south-east Europeans.

[Oliver109]

I wouldnt say so, exotic to me implies a different biome, a completely different climate and Greece is part of the general European zone climatically as is Iran or Turkmenistan. Exotic to me would be people with Indid or significant sub saharan influence, even Moroccans would not be that exotic to me.

[Dimitri159]

I wouldnt say so, exotic to me implies a different biome, a completely different climate and Greece is part of the general European zone climatically as is Iran or Turkmenistan. Exotic to me would be people with Indid or significant sub saharan influence, even Moroccans would not be that exotic to me.

If by Caucasian in general then I would agree. But Caucasians have unique sub-types when diving into specifics.

[Cristiano viejo]

If by Caucasian in general then I would agree. But Caucasians have unique sub-types when diving into specifics.

Moroccans are like from other planet. Oliverio is veery comical.

[Dimitri159]

Moroccans are like from other planet. Oliverio is veery comical.

Morroccans are pretty mixed with Sub-Saharan DNA. But most of the Middle East and at least half of North Africa is purely Caucasian, just but not European obviously.

Anyway, I don't care about Morrocans. This discussion is about Greeks. I personally see a big difference between Greeks and Spaniards, but that's just me. Greeks and South Italians look more alike, and they both have features than stand out compared to the rest of Europe imo.

[NSXD60]

Greeks are mostly a blend of ancient Minoan and blunt Armenoid, the latter type represented by actor Telly Savalas, but also seen in Hittite rock carvings and Egyptian art, save for a few upper class obviously PIE Hittites, PIEs superimposing language, religion, oral tradition, but soon racially absorbed except in Sparta and Northern Greece. Obviously today there's a minor Turanid (Mongol) and Slavic admixture, besides the more prominent Armenoid type.

[Roy]

Some of them - yes.

[CordedWhelp]

There's a decent Greek community in my neck of the woods....they look more European generally, with some outliers passable as something more eastern.

[Dimitri159]

There's a decent Greek community in my neck of the woods....they look more European generally, with some outliers passable as something more eastern.

By "European", what exactly do you mean? What European features differ from other Caucasians to be exact? Do you mean light-skin and hair? Or facial features, or what?

Do they look anything like these Greek in these videos?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3_ufZfwQFo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOU-F0geVNQ&t=30s

[CordedWhelp]

By "European", what exactly do you mean? What European features differ from other Caucasians to be exact? Do you mean light-skin and hair? Or facial features, or what?

Do they look anything like these Greek in these videos?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3_ufZfwQFo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOU-F0geVNQ&t=30s

Of course, I mean a broad idea of European....there is a lot of overlap with the NEar East, but it's a complicated relationship. I do not simply mean hair or eye coloration.

[Pro.crasti.nation]

Most of the Greeks I've met in London, looked pretty much European. Granted a few of them were half-Greek, Half-English but, they looked European.

A few looked like the Sicilian barbers from Mafia movies. And a larger number, like Iranians. Especially a couple of Greek cafes.

[Dimitri159]

Most of the Greeks I've met in London, looked pretty much European. Granted a few of them were half-Greek, Half-English but, they looked European.

A few looked like the Sicilian barbers from Mafia movies. And a larger number, like Iranians. Especially a couple of Greek cafes.

So Sicilians and Iranians look “European” to you? Interesting.

[kevinmac]

Like all meds and middle easterns, they can be both.