Serbian. My Gedmatch, MH, MTA..

[Aleksandar]

So from time to time in past few months I have been playing around and uploading my raw dna data into various websites and having fun reading up on new info.
I am very new and still casual with all this.

MyHeritage:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTzeTD-UgLk
My True Ancestry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkbsASqWqog&t=89s

Gedmatch vahaduo:
North_Atlantic - 25.01
Baltic - 30.64
West_Med - 15.07
West_Asian - 11.23
East_Med - 12.49
Red_Sea - 1.29
South_Asian -1.6
East_Asian - 1.66
Siberian - 0.55
Amerindian - 0.44
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -

[CommonSense]

Ah, I remember your video. Nice to see you here.

[Aleksandar]

Thank you, i have just found the forum yesterday, a lot of interesting threads! :)

[Mortimer]

Welcome to the world of Apricity

[Dušan]

Congratulations on results and welcome to forum.

[Leto]

Hi,
Checked out your channel. So your wife is Danish? That's a cool mix. Do you know your Y DNA?

[reboun]

Welcome to the forum

[Aleksandar]

Hi,
Checked out your channel. So your wife is Danish? That's a cool mix. Do you know your Y DNA?
Hey, yeah she's a Dane. I don't really know how to check to precisely. Do I have to take a separate test for it specifically?

[Aleksandar]

Congratulations on results and welcome to forum.
Pozdrav, thank you! :)

[Aleksandar]

Welcome to the forum

Thank you!

[Aleksandar]

Welcome to the world of Apricity

Thank you! :)

[Leto]

Hey, yeah she's a Dane. I don't really know how to check to precisely. Do I have to take a separate test for it specifically?
Post her Gedmatch as well. By the way, I'd like to have a look at your Dodecad K12b too

This is the Y-DNA predictor, it's free and easy to use
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?251096-Post-your-Y-DNA-prediction

[Varda]

Pozdrav, thank you! :)

Welcome to forum.

Are you from Vojvodina?

[Aleksandar]

Welcome to forum.

Are you from Vojvodina?

Yup :) Mother's side especially, Novi Sad and Pancevo.

[Aleksandar]

Post her Gedmatch as well. By the way, I'd like to have a look at your Dodecad K12b too

This is the Y-DNA predictor, it's free and easy to use
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?251096-Post-your-Y-DNA-prediction

I will do her gedmatch again at some point and post, she is really not into it so we haven't really saved hers :D

Thanks for the link so these are some of the results of the things you mentioned.

Y - SNP using Experimental tree
* I1 [I1-L759 (I1-CTS10140, I1-CTS10338)]
* A1 [A-CTS3331 (A-P305, A-V168)]
* I2a2a [I2-CTS10125 (I2-CTS429, I2-CTS5286)]
* J2a1i [J2-L88 (J2-L198)]
* S1c [S-P83]

Y-SNP using ISOGG'S tree
* I1 [I1-L64 (I1-L75, I1-L80)]
* S1c [S-P83]
* A1 [A-L985 (A-L986, A-L989)]
* J2a1i [J2-L88 (J2-L198)]
* I2a2a [I2-L34 (I2-L36, I2-L59)]

Dodecad k12b:

Ancient spreadsheet
38.49060275 cim358_Cimmerian
40.79726216 RISE600_Verh-Uimon_Russia
41.45798234 RISE413_Nerquin_Getashen_Armenia_3493_years
41.47762650 I1293_HotuIIIb_Hotu_Cave_Iran_Neolithic
42.76421050 cim359_Cimmerian
43.24202701 chy002_Sarmatian
43.34981892 RISE602_Sary-Bel_Russia_~2000_years
43.83200429 I1951_GD39_Ganj_Dareh_Iran_Neolithic
44.36296316 I1290_GD13A_Ganj_Dareh_Iran_Neolithic
44.52786543 RISE416_Nerquin_Getashen_Armenia_3259_years
44.98334692 scy193_Scythian
45.15759183 RISE601_Verh-Uimon_Russia~2000_years
45.21502626 tem002_Sarmatian
45.39948568 I1671_SG2_Seh_Gabi_Iran_Late_Neolithic
45.70816448 I1945_GD16_Ganj_Dareh_Iran_Neolithic
46.14900432 RISE407_Norabak_Armenia_2827_years
46.51296163 I1949_GD37_Ganj_Dareh_Iran_Neolithic
46.69985225 chy001_Sarmatian
46.80526039 RISE493_Sabinka_2_Russia_3214_years
47.09322032 RISE504_Kytmanovo_Russia_1208_years
47.25230471 RISE423_Nerquin_Getashen_Armenia_3038_years
47.30235301 I1656_KAT16_Kura-Araxes_Middle/Late_Bronze_Age_Aragatsotn_Armenia
47.41147119 I7458_SE_Iberia_c.10-16CE
47.43834736 Kumtepe004_Anatolian
47.50250835 I1955_GD1150_Ganj_Dareh_Iran_recent_1430-1485

Original spreadsheet
32.62098711 Tajiks
36.70592459 Turkmens
36.97790962 Burusho
37.18209515 Hazara
37.58001597 Pathan
37.83432172 Uzbeks
40.77776232 Makrani
40.86027166 Uygur
41.38059690 Jatt
42.98618266 Balochi
42.99081065 Sindhi
43.85496665 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
44.97298967 Iranians
46.87754046 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
47.01861121 Brahui
47.39942827 Iranian
47.89910020 Kurd
49.14934181 Meena
49.53007975 Cochin_Jews
49.75477666 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
50.05912304 Kurds
50.15249844 Nogais
51.07331789 Altai
51.90324653 Algerian
52.15626329 Kshatriya

Updated spreadsheet
33.94130522 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
34.44543656 Tajik_Herat
34.50641679 Tajik_Mountain
34.63055732 Tajik_Lowland
34.79868676 Tajik_Kabul
35.21824385 Uzbek
35.44989422 Pamiri_Ishkashim
35.71624700 Balochi
35.99657345 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
36.06150995 Turkmen_TM
36.12694562 Pashtun_Kandahar
36.32242558 Pamiri_Shughnan
36.61666014 Kho
36.65598178 Pamiri_Rushan
36.72083605 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
36.78674218 Uzbeki
36.85132833 Turkmen_Afghanistan
36.93379482 Pashtun_Tarkalani
36.97790962 Burusho
37.05579712 Turkmen_Iran
37.18209515 Hazara
37.30751265 Iranian_Bandari
37.36052596 Pashtun_Yusafzai
37.77385207 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
38.03427533 Kalash

What are you thoughts on these? What do they really tell to someone more experienced? :)

[Aleksandar]

accidental same post, posted double :D

[Leto]

Lol, no, that's not really what I meant. I meant the components from Dodecad K12b :D

[Leto]

You seem to be I1 i.e. I-M253 which is quite ironic given that you seem to be living in Denmark. That's a primarily Scandinavian or Germanic haplogroup although it's also found in Central Europe and the Balkans in smaller amounts.

[Aleksandar]

You seem to be I1 i.e. I-M253 which is quite ironic given that you seem to be living in Denmark. That's a primarily Scandinavian or Germanic haplogroup although it's also found in Central Europe and the Balkans in smaller amounts.

Hehe i see, that is interesting :) My grandfather was Hungarian with some German ancestry as well so i assume that must be a big influence on that. I will look into the components when i am at the pc again. :D

[Leto]

Hehe i see, that is interesting :) My grandfather was Hungarian with some German ancestry as well so i assume that must be a big influence on that. I will look into the components when i am at the pc again. :D
So you're straight up one quarter Hungarian?

The components are what you posted in your opening post.

[vbnetkhio]

What are you thoughts on these? What do they really tell to someone more experienced? :)

you did something wrong.

these are your coordinates:

Aleksandar,25.01,30.64,15.07,11.23,12.49,1.29,1.6, 1.66,0.55,0.44,0,0,0

these are your closest ancient samples:

Distance to: Aleksandar
9.43698575 MJ37_Chernyakhov_2430386_AD_
11.35851663 STR228_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1483_ybp
11.76606986 DA195_Hungary_Scythian.SG_2553_ybp
12.34207033 Bul4_Bulgaria_Yamnaya_o_4906_ybp
12.34875702 AED513_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1528_ybp
12.52304276 I4137_Czech_Early_Slav_dup.I4137.SG_1235_ybp
12.74696042 AV1_Hungary_Avar_1361_ybp
12.87484369 MJ34_West_Scythian_R1a0Z93_
12.87735221 DA197_Hungary_Scythian.SG_2510_ybp
12.99459118 I2165_Bulgaria_EBA_4908_ybp
13.02795840 SZ5_Hungary_Langobard.SG_1442_ybp
13.34760278 ANI163_Bulgaria_Varna_EN3_6577_ybp
14.27868691 scy301_SG_Moldova_Scythian_SG
14.32312815 R62_Lazio_Rome_Medieval_Italy
14.56600838 scy009_SG_Ukraine_Scythian_SG
14.84675049 STR310_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1430_ybp
14.85166657 I5666_Czech_Bell_Beaker_4250_ybp
14.87447142 SZ45_Hungary_Langobard.SG_1442_ybp
15.03546142 I3529_Hungary_Bell_Beaker_EBA_4300_ybp
15.23143788 SZ18_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp
15.51173104 Greece_MBA_Log04
15.63058860 scy010_SG_Ukraine_Scythian_SG_
15.68453060 I4124_Germany_Bell_Beaker_4284_ybp
15.69404346 CL53_longobard_north_italy
15.89472554 R61_Lazio_Rome_Late_Medieval_Italy


you shown as a mix of multiple ancient samples: (Hungary Avar= Slavic, others mostly pre-Slavic Balkan)


Target: Aleksandar
Distance: 1.5766% / 1.57656561 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.7 AV1_Hungary_Avar_1361_ybp
22.4 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian_
7.7 scy301_SG_Moldova_Scythian_SG
7.3 DA195_Hungary_Scythian.SG_2553_ybp
7.0 MJ37_Chernyakhov_2430386_AD_
6.8 Pazyryk_IA_Be9
4.1 Bul4_Bulgaria_Yamnaya_o_4906_ybp

the same for modern populations:



Distance to: Aleksandar
3.26917421 Romania_Moldavia_North
3.40894412 Moldova_Centre
3.58927569 Moldova_average
3.61925407 Bosniak
3.75046664 Serb_Bosnia
4.07760959 Croat_South
4.44851661 Serb_Serbia_West
4.47469552 Serb_Croatia
4.62153654 Csángó-Ceangău
4.65193508 Serb
4.70141468 Moldova_North
4.98313155 Romania_Maramures
5.27848463 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
5.40487743 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
5.47410267 Croat_West
5.48811443 Bosniak_Bosnia
5.55983813 Serb_Serbia_Central
5.60483720 Croat
5.78720140 Croat_East
5.98343547 Serb_Serbia_South
6.14200293 Serb_Herzegovina
6.71223510 Romania_Crisana
6.83568577 Hungarian_Alföld
7.05241094 Romania_Moldavia_South
7.21789443 Romania_Transylvania




Target: Aleksandar
Distance: 1.0863% / 1.08631635 | ADC: 0.25x RC
63.5 Bosniak
21.2 Csángó-Ceangău
9.0 Serb_Serbia_West
4.2 Dargin
1.1 Cambodian
1.0 Kalash


It's possible that Bosniak stands for your Serbian ancestry, and that your grandfather was a Csango Hungarian.

[Aleksandar]

you did something wrong.

these are your coordinates:

Aleksandar,25.01,30.64,15.07,11.23,12.49,1.29,1.6, 1.66,0.55,0.44,0,0,0

these are your closest ancient samples:

Distance to: Aleksandar
9.43698575 MJ37_Chernyakhov_2430386_AD_
11.35851663 STR228_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1483_ybp
11.76606986 DA195_Hungary_Scythian.SG_2553_ybp
12.34207033 Bul4_Bulgaria_Yamnaya_o_4906_ybp
12.34875702 AED513_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1528_ybp
12.52304276 I4137_Czech_Early_Slav_dup.I4137.SG_1235_ybp
12.74696042 AV1_Hungary_Avar_1361_ybp
12.87484369 MJ34_West_Scythian_R1a0Z93_
12.87735221 DA197_Hungary_Scythian.SG_2510_ybp
12.99459118 I2165_Bulgaria_EBA_4908_ybp
13.02795840 SZ5_Hungary_Langobard.SG_1442_ybp
13.34760278 ANI163_Bulgaria_Varna_EN3_6577_ybp
14.27868691 scy301_SG_Moldova_Scythian_SG
14.32312815 R62_Lazio_Rome_Medieval_Italy
14.56600838 scy009_SG_Ukraine_Scythian_SG
14.84675049 STR310_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1430_ybp
14.85166657 I5666_Czech_Bell_Beaker_4250_ybp
14.87447142 SZ45_Hungary_Langobard.SG_1442_ybp
15.03546142 I3529_Hungary_Bell_Beaker_EBA_4300_ybp
15.23143788 SZ18_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp
15.51173104 Greece_MBA_Log04
15.63058860 scy010_SG_Ukraine_Scythian_SG_
15.68453060 I4124_Germany_Bell_Beaker_4284_ybp
15.69404346 CL53_longobard_north_italy
15.89472554 R61_Lazio_Rome_Late_Medieval_Italy


you shown as a mix of multiple ancient samples: (Hungary Avar= Slavic, others mostly pre-Slavic Balkan)


Target: Aleksandar
Distance: 1.5766% / 1.57656561 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.7 AV1_Hungary_Avar_1361_ybp
22.4 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian_
7.7 scy301_SG_Moldova_Scythian_SG
7.3 DA195_Hungary_Scythian.SG_2553_ybp
7.0 MJ37_Chernyakhov_2430386_AD_
6.8 Pazyryk_IA_Be9
4.1 Bul4_Bulgaria_Yamnaya_o_4906_ybp

the same for modern populations:



Distance to: Aleksandar
3.26917421 Romania_Moldavia_North
3.40894412 Moldova_Centre
3.58927569 Moldova_average
3.61925407 Bosniak
3.75046664 Serb_Bosnia
4.07760959 Croat_South
4.44851661 Serb_Serbia_West
4.47469552 Serb_Croatia
4.62153654 Csángó-Ceangău
4.65193508 Serb
4.70141468 Moldova_North
4.98313155 Romania_Maramures
5.27848463 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
5.40487743 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
5.47410267 Croat_West
5.48811443 Bosniak_Bosnia
5.55983813 Serb_Serbia_Central
5.60483720 Croat
5.78720140 Croat_East
5.98343547 Serb_Serbia_South
6.14200293 Serb_Herzegovina
6.71223510 Romania_Crisana
6.83568577 Hungarian_Alföld
7.05241094 Romania_Moldavia_South
7.21789443 Romania_Transylvania




Target: Aleksandar
Distance: 1.0863% / 1.08631635 | ADC: 0.25x RC
63.5 Bosniak
21.2 Csángó-Ceangău
9.0 Serb_Serbia_West
4.2 Dargin
1.1 Cambodian
1.0 Kalash


It's possible that Bosniak stands for your Serbian ancestry, and that your grandfather was a Csango Hungarian.

Intereating, thank you a lot for this!

[Jana]

Welcome to the TA.


you did something wrong.

these are your coordinates:

Aleksandar,25.01,30.64,15.07,11.23,12.49,1.29,1.6, 1.66,0.55,0.44,0,0,0

these are your closest ancient samples:

Distance to: Aleksandar
9.43698575 MJ37_Chernyakhov_2430386_AD_
11.35851663 STR228_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1483_ybp
11.76606986 DA195_Hungary_Scythian.SG_2553_ybp
12.34207033 Bul4_Bulgaria_Yamnaya_o_4906_ybp
12.34875702 AED513_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1528_ybp
12.52304276 I4137_Czech_Early_Slav_dup.I4137.SG_1235_ybp
12.74696042 AV1_Hungary_Avar_1361_ybp
12.87484369 MJ34_West_Scythian_R1a0Z93_
12.87735221 DA197_Hungary_Scythian.SG_2510_ybp
12.99459118 I2165_Bulgaria_EBA_4908_ybp
13.02795840 SZ5_Hungary_Langobard.SG_1442_ybp
13.34760278 ANI163_Bulgaria_Varna_EN3_6577_ybp
14.27868691 scy301_SG_Moldova_Scythian_SG
14.32312815 R62_Lazio_Rome_Medieval_Italy
14.56600838 scy009_SG_Ukraine_Scythian_SG
14.84675049 STR310_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1430_ybp
14.85166657 I5666_Czech_Bell_Beaker_4250_ybp
14.87447142 SZ45_Hungary_Langobard.SG_1442_ybp
15.03546142 I3529_Hungary_Bell_Beaker_EBA_4300_ybp
15.23143788 SZ18_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp
15.51173104 Greece_MBA_Log04
15.63058860 scy010_SG_Ukraine_Scythian_SG_
15.68453060 I4124_Germany_Bell_Beaker_4284_ybp
15.69404346 CL53_longobard_north_italy
15.89472554 R61_Lazio_Rome_Late_Medieval_Italy


you shown as a mix of multiple ancient samples: (Hungary Avar= Slavic, others mostly pre-Slavic Balkan)


Target: Aleksandar
Distance: 1.5766% / 1.57656561 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.7 AV1_Hungary_Avar_1361_ybp
22.4 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian_
7.7 scy301_SG_Moldova_Scythian_SG
7.3 DA195_Hungary_Scythian.SG_2553_ybp
7.0 MJ37_Chernyakhov_2430386_AD_
6.8 Pazyryk_IA_Be9
4.1 Bul4_Bulgaria_Yamnaya_o_4906_ybp

the same for modern populations:



Distance to: Aleksandar
3.26917421 Romania_Moldavia_North
3.40894412 Moldova_Centre
3.58927569 Moldova_average
3.61925407 Bosniak
3.75046664 Serb_Bosnia
4.07760959 Croat_South
4.44851661 Serb_Serbia_West
4.47469552 Serb_Croatia
4.62153654 Csángó-Ceangău
4.65193508 Serb
4.70141468 Moldova_North
4.98313155 Romania_Maramures
5.27848463 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
5.40487743 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
5.47410267 Croat_West
5.48811443 Bosniak_Bosnia
5.55983813 Serb_Serbia_Central
5.60483720 Croat
5.78720140 Croat_East
5.98343547 Serb_Serbia_South
6.14200293 Serb_Herzegovina
6.71223510 Romania_Crisana
6.83568577 Hungarian_Alföld
7.05241094 Romania_Moldavia_South
7.21789443 Romania_Transylvania




Target: Aleksandar
Distance: 1.0863% / 1.08631635 | ADC: 0.25x RC
63.5 Bosniak
21.2 Csángó-Ceangău
9.0 Serb_Serbia_West
4.2 Dargin
1.1 Cambodian
1.0 Kalash


It's possible that Bosniak stands for your Serbian ancestry, and that your grandfather was a Csango Hungarian.

It's more likely his grandpa was Szekely IMO, there were no Csango in Vojvodina afaik, but there were some Szekelys, and they are genetically similar to Csango.

[Jana]

closest TA members to Aleksandar

Distance to: Aleksandar

2.51423945 Nurzat(Romanian-Rusyn)
2.89219640 Ion_Basescul(Moldovan)
3.12717125 wd1089(Romanian)
3.27000000 Ion_Basescul_dad(Moldovan)
3.40117627 Devil's_advocate(Serb)
3.40906145 Tschaikisten(Serb)
3.69763438 Chris(Hungarian)
4.13913034 lilalila1988(Serb)
4.27140492 Commonsense(Serb)
4.47705260 Bosniensis(Bosniak)
4.66197383 Aye's_father(Serb)
4.72101684 joannadi38(Greek-East_Slav)
4.80031249 Voidspawn_dad(Romanian)
4.82643761 Stears(Hungarian)
4.89701950 Ion_Basescul_brother(Moldovan)
5.08210586 Morlak(Serb)
5.12518292 HungryLion(Serb)
5.16293521 Stearsolina_Father(Croat)
5.23891210 un4given(Croat)
5.31198645 TieRed(Serb)
5.39761985 Stearsolina_Mother(Croat_½_German-Serb-Greek)
5.42338455 Zmey(Moldovan)
5.52229119 Ford(Serb)
5.80274073 superjelly40(Moldovan)
5.80542849 TieRed_grandma(Serb)

[Aleksandar]

My grandfather moved to Serbia from Hungary in his 20's, sadly i dont know more than that.

[Aleksandar]

Post her Gedmatch as well. By the way, I'd like to have a look at your Dodecad K12b too

This is the Y-DNA predictor, it's free and easy to use
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?251096-Post-your-Y-DNA-prediction

Here is the Dodecad k12b as well. :)
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