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mrt19
05-15-2021, 03:47 PM
Ive Gedmatched my Turkish results could someone explain me if im "Turkish" and what does approximate mean? i dont have any Greek/Cypriot or Armenian DNA in my Test but it was shown in the approximate
Thx Beforehand : )

My father is from Ordu (Black sea) Turkey
My Mother is from Sakarya Turkey

Ancestry DNA :
Turkey Caucausus : 94%
Iran/Persian : 3 %
Balkan : 2%
Mongolia and North Central Asia : 1%

Gedmatch:
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkish_Dodecad @ 6.017474
2 Turks_Behar @ 6.715547
3 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 15.062993
4 Lebanese_Behar @ 16.641054
5 Kumyks_Yunusbayev @ 17.199896
6 Cypriots_Behar @ 17.620663
7 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 17.761585
8 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 18.036146
9 Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 18.166418
10 Kurd_Dodecad @ 18.615164
11 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar @ 18.623093
12 Armenian_Dodecad @ 18.625534
13 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev @ 18.819458
14 Iranian_Dodecad @ 18.839224
15 Assyrian_Dodecad @ 18.902637
16 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 19.281527
17 Druze_HGDP @ 19.475328
18 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 19.503201
19 Syrians_Behar @ 20.240303
20 Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 20.320736

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriots_Behar +50% Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 5.822718


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenian_Dodecad +25% Greek_Dodecad +25% Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.761647


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Armenian_Dodecad + Georgia_Jews_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.726953
2 Armenians_Behar + Assyrian_Dodecad + Greek_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.731379
3 Armenians_Behar + Georgia_Jews_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.738971
4 Armenian_Dodecad + Armenian_Dodecad + Greek_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.761647
5 Cypriots_Behar + Cypriots_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 1.909411
6 Armenian_Dodecad + Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Greek_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.909481
7 Armenian_Dodecad + Assyrian_Dodecad + Greek_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.949450
8 Armenians_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + Iraq_Jews_Behar + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.978594
9 Armenians_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.992011
10 Armenians_Behar + Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 2.023853
11 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Georgia_Jews_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 2.025895
12 Armenian_Dodecad + Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 2.092598
13 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Assyrian_Dodecad + Greek_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 2.134113
14 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Greek_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 2.219139
15 Nogais_Yunusbayev + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Turks_Behar + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 2.233742
16 Iranian_Jews_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Turks_Behar @ 2.285007
17 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 2.319701
18 Iraq_Jews_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Turks_Behar @ 2.400074
19 Nogais_Yunusbayev + Sicilian_Dodecad + Turks_Behar + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 2.462005
20 Iranian_Jews_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.469601

reboun
05-15-2021, 03:54 PM
Welcome to the forum. 1 population approximation shows your genetic distance to the ethnicities which you are closest to. For 2-3-4 populations approximation, your DNA is modelled as a mixture but it doesn't necessarily mean that you are part Greek, Jewish, or Armenian. These are just approximations and you may think them as ethnicity guess based on DNA.

Leto
05-15-2021, 04:24 PM
Hi,
Post your components from Dodecad and Eurogenes too. That standard oracle is basically useless.

mrt19
05-15-2021, 05:12 PM
Hi,
Post your components from Dodecad and Eurogenes too. That standard oracle is basically useless.

Eurogenes k13:

North_Atlantic 5.05 Pct
Baltic 7.05 Pct
West_Med 14.49 Pct
West_Asian 30.66 Pct
East_Med 24.73 Pct
Red_Sea 5.81 Pct
South_Asian 2.32 Pct
East_Asian 4.02 Pct
Siberian 5.71 Pct
Amerindian 0.16 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Dodecad k12b:

Gedrosia 13.26 Pct
Siberian 4.11 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.69 Pct
Atlantic_Med 12.83 Pct
North_European 10.89 Pct
South_Asian 0.51 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 11.36 Pct
East_Asian 5.14 Pct
Caucasus 41.21 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Thracian
05-15-2021, 05:19 PM
Eurogenes k13:

North_Atlantic 5.05 Pct
Baltic 7.05 Pct
West_Med 14.49 Pct
West_Asian 30.66 Pct
East_Med 24.73 Pct
Red_Sea 5.81 Pct
South_Asian 2.32 Pct
East_Asian 4.02 Pct
Siberian 5.71 Pct
Amerindian 0.16 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Dodecad k12b:

Gedrosia 13.26 Pct
Siberian 4.11 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.69 Pct
Atlantic_Med 12.83 Pct
North_European 10.89 Pct
South_Asian 0.51 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 11.36 Pct
East_Asian 5.14 Pct
Caucasus 41.21 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Hey, your k12b results,

Distance to: mrt
3.62452756 Turk_Central_East
3.66972751 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
4.10517966 Turk_Central_West
5.06595499 Turk_South
5.19769180 Turk_West_BlackSea
6.90774927 Turk_Southwest
7.46302218 Turk_Southeast
8.84153833 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.02755227 Turk_East
9.14862831 Turk_Northwest
9.60725767 Azerbaijani
11.18132819 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.52708549 Turk_Cyprus
11.83163133 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.28676524 Greek_Cappadocia
12.78376705 Armenian_East
13.12135283 Kabardin
13.21404177 Abazin
13.23750732 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
13.66550402 Greek_Kos
13.69695587 Circassian
13.83675901 Greek_Crete
13.92154805 Greek_Rhodes
13.93012922 Kurd_Kurmanji
13.97824381 Nusayri_Turkey

Target: mrt
Distance: 1.7050% / 1.70498994 | ADC: 0.25x
43.9 Turk_West_BlackSea
38.5 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
12.1 Turk_East_Black_Sea
5.3 Greek_Cappadocia
0.2 Japanese

Distance to: mrt
1.98186391 33.80% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 66.20% Greek_Pontus
2.01759318 36.80% Turk_East_Black_Sea + 63.20% Turk_Northwest
2.05396890 23.80% Turk_East_Black_Sea + 76.20% Turk_West_BlackSea
2.11066198 30.00% Turk_East_Black_Sea + 70.00% Turk_Southwest
2.12192704 34.80% Greek_Pontus + 65.20% Turk_Northwest
2.18909863 28.20% Greek_Pontus + 71.80% Turk_Southwest
2.21931665 20.20% Hemshin + 79.80% Turk_West_BlackSea
2.26920327 22.00% Greek_Pontus + 78.00% Turk_West_BlackSea
2.27752031 19.60% Laz + 80.40% Turk_West_BlackSea
2.37154665 32.40% Hemshin + 67.60% Turk_Northwest
2.42399317 26.00% Hemshin + 74.00% Turk_Southwest
2.43685618 17.80% Georgian_Adjara + 82.20% Turk_West_BlackSea
2.45205715 25.20% Laz + 74.80% Turk_Southwest
2.46843433 14.40% Greek_Icaria + 85.60% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
2.46958600 15.00% Greek_Izmir + 85.00% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
2.48537981 16.60% Greek_Crete + 83.40% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
2.51525270 82.40% Turk_Central_West + 17.60% Turk_East_Black_Sea
2.52995748 31.60% Laz + 68.40% Turk_Northwest
2.54044467 16.40% Greek_Kos + 83.60% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
2.55660617 26.60% Armenian_East + 73.40% Turk_West_BlackSea
2.56354574 16.20% Greek_Rhodes + 83.80% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
2.58038929 15.20% Greek_Fournoi + 84.80% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
2.59807186 17.80% Greek_Cappadocia + 82.20% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
2.60431055 11.80% Georgian_Mingrelian + 88.20% Turk_Central_West
2.64536867 14.20% Laz + 85.80% Turk_Central_West

Leto
05-15-2021, 05:23 PM
Your Dodecad oracle

Distance to: mrt19
3.62452756 Turk_Central_East
3.66972751 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
4.10517966 Turk_Central_West
5.06595499 Turk_South
5.19769180 Turk_West_BlackSea
6.90774927 Turk_Southwest
7.46302218 Turk_Southeast
8.84153833 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.02755227 Turk_East
9.14862831 Turk_Northwest

Target: mrt19
Distance: 1.3794% / 1.37937204 | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.7 Turk_West_BlackSea
23.6 Turk_East_Black_Sea
10.7 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
1.5 Greek_Cappadocia
1.5 Japanese

Target: mrt19
Distance: 2.0650% / 2.06497526 | ADC: 0.5x RC
55.9 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
27.1 Turk_West_BlackSea
17.0 Greek_Cappadocia

Looks pretty decent IMO. You're ca. 10% East Eurasian/Mongoloid by the way, which may equal 20-25% Medieval Oghuz.

mrt19
05-15-2021, 05:30 PM
Wow thx where does the Japanese come from ? : ) and is it an normal percentage 10 % east Eurasian/Mongoloid?

Leto
05-15-2021, 05:42 PM
Yeah, that's normal for Western Turkey as far as I know.

Do you know your Y DNA? There are free predictors out there.

DNA.Land is not very serious, just for fun, so to speak.

mrt19
05-15-2021, 05:43 PM
I found out it is G-P15

Hektor12
05-15-2021, 05:51 PM
You're ca. 10% East Eurasian/Mongoloid by the way, which may equal 20-25% Medieval Oghuz.Bro i want to question your formula.

I believe you're using "average" of some Oghuz samples. So for example, If there are 3 Oghuz samples; which have %10, %20, and %30, you take the average %20 and destermine Turkicnes by %20 east eurasian.

BUT= Dont forget that sample with %10 east eurasian is also fully Oghuz.

Dr_Maul
05-15-2021, 07:02 PM
Bro i want to question your formula.

I believe you're using "average" of some Oghuz samples. So for example, If there are 3 Oghuz samples; which have %10, %20, and %30, you take the average %20 and destermine Turkicnes by %20 east eurasian.

BUT= Dont forget that sample with %10 east eurasian is also fully Oghuz.


Average is the best method, by this then even 100% east asian could be considered fully oghuz.

mrt19
05-15-2021, 07:12 PM
I found out it is G-P15

Does it mean im Caucasian descent?

Kyp
05-15-2021, 07:17 PM
Does it mean im Caucasian descent?

Probably yes. Your paternal lineage.

Target: mrt19
Distance: 3.1098% / 3.10982950
50.8 Greek_Cappadocia
27.1 Turkmen_Afghanistan
22.1 Greek_Pontus

mrt19
05-15-2021, 07:21 PM
Probably yes. You are paternally Pontic Greek probably (who are basically greek speaking Caucasians) mixed with Turkmen (Oghuz) invader.

Didnt know that i had Pontic greek ^^ i thought that to before i tooked my DNA test but i hadnt any Greek in my DNA

Kyp
05-15-2021, 07:23 PM
Didnt know that i had Pontic greek ^^ i thought that to before i tooked my DNA test but i hadnt any Greek in my DNA

Pontic Greeks are basically Caucasians genetically, that's why. Anatolian Greeks in general are mostly of Anatolian descent.


You are Anatolian + Oghuz Turkmen.

mrt19
05-15-2021, 07:40 PM
thx

Hektor12
05-16-2021, 05:28 AM
by this then even 100% east asian could be considered fully oghuz.Lul, no. Wheres %100 east asian Oghuz sample?

Sora
05-16-2021, 06:41 AM
Oh, you are that guy from Reddit! (I'm "ucanhollandalisabri" there) :D

You hit the mark as posting your results here! :thumb001::o As I said at Reddit, your results are typical Black Sea Turk result. I also can say that you are 70% Anatolian native + 30% Central Asian Oghuz like most Anatolian Turks :)

mrt19
05-16-2021, 03:17 PM
Oh, you are that guy from Reddit! (I'm "ucanhollandalisabri" there) :D

You hit the mark as posting your results here! :thumb001::o As I said at Reddit, your results are typical Black Sea Turk result. I also can say that you are 70% Anatolian native + 30% Central Asian Oghuz like most Anatolian Turks :)

Wow cool hey : )

mrt19
05-16-2021, 03:38 PM
I wanted to know more thats why :D

Dr_Maul
05-16-2021, 07:45 PM
Lul, no. Wheres %100 east asian Oghuz sample?

There are no Oghuz samples even to date, however there are Gokturks and Uighurs both of which have individuals with 100% East Asian (and very low as well)

mrt19
05-18-2021, 02:47 PM
So now i transferred my RAW DNA to myFTDNA and i got really different results which is the "real" result?

<a href="https://ibb.co/9pb9C5P"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/HKtDk8Z/Screenshot-46-LI.jpg" alt="Screenshot-46-LI" border="0"></a>

Leto
05-18-2021, 06:04 PM
You are Anatolian, Greek, Caucasian and Turkmen/Oghuz Turk.

A333
05-18-2021, 06:37 PM
Do you know your phenotype?

mrt19
05-18-2021, 07:28 PM
Do you know your phenotype?

idk how to determinate it?

mrt19
05-20-2021, 01:59 PM
107691

Myheritage estimate