Pontic Greek results, need help reading them!

[XK1997]

Hello guys, I’m a Pontic Greek or so I thought. 3 of my grandparents were born in Pontus modern day turkey. 2 of my grandparents were from a village in Maçka and the other one in trabzon. My other grandma from my fathers side is an arvanite Though. Here are my results, which are very bizarre to me. I got a 94% Greece and Albania, 6% Balkan on ancestry dna, with R1a-L1029 YDNA. And on eurogene k13 I got these :


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.6
2 West_Med 26.31
3 North_Atlantic 19.94
4 West_Asian 13.33
5 Baltic 10.53
6 Red_Sea 2.33
7 East_Asian 0.57
8 Amerindian 0.39

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_Sicilian 6.02
2 Central_Greek 6.47
3 Italian_Abruzzo 6.71
4 East_Sicilian 7.54
5 Greek_Thessaly 7.74
6 South_Italian 8.06
7 Tuscan 8.21
8 Ashkenazi 11.66
9 North_Italian 13.14
10 Algerian_Jewish 14.55
11 Italian_Jewish 14.63
12 Sephardic_Jewish 15.06
13 Bulgarian 15.37
14 Romanian 17.17
15 Tunisian_Jewish 19.3
16 Libyan_Jewish 19.79
17 Serbian 21.21
18 Cyprian 21.31
19 Spanish_Extremadura 21.36
20 Spanish_Andalucia 21.68

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.3% Central_Greek + 16.7% Sardinian @ 3.48
2 87.7% Central_Greek + 12.3% French_Basque @ 3.78
3 83.9% Central_Greek + 16.1% Southwest_French @ 3.91
4 80.6% Central_Greek + 19.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.94
5 71.2% Central_Greek + 28.8% North_Italian @ 4.02
6 83.6% Italian_Abruzzo + 16.4% Sardinian @ 4.07
7 83.5% Central_Greek + 16.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.08
8 84% Central_Greek + 16% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.09
9 81.8% Central_Greek + 18.2% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.11
10 82.6% Central_Greek + 17.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.16
11 64.6% South_Italian + 35.4% North_Italian @ 4.36
12 83% Central_Greek + 17% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.4
13 81.5% Central_Greek + 18.5% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.4
14 79.9% South_Italian + 20.1% Southwest_French @ 4.42
15 82.4% Central_Greek + 17.6% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.43
16 59.5% Central_Greek + 40.5% Tuscan @ 4.48
17 83.4% Central_Greek + 16.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.49
18 82.9% Central_Greek + 17.1% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.53
19 62.8% North_Italian + 37.2% Cyprian @ 4.56
20 82.3% Central_Greek + 17.7% Portuguese @ 4.57

[Impaler]

Hello guys, I’m a Pontic Greek or so I thought. 3 of my grandparents were born in Pontus modern day turkey. 2 of my grandparents were from a village in Maçka and the other one in trabzon. My other grandma from my fathers side is an arvanite Though. Here are my results, which are very bizarre to me. I got a 94% Greece and Albania, 6% Balkan on ancestry dna, with R1a-L1029 YDNA. And on eurogene k13 I got these :


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.6
2 West_Med 26.31
3 North_Atlantic 19.94
4 West_Asian 13.33
5 Baltic 10.53
6 Red_Sea 2.33
7 East_Asian 0.57
8 Amerindian 0.39

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_Sicilian 6.02
2 Central_Greek 6.47
3 Italian_Abruzzo 6.71
4 East_Sicilian 7.54
5 Greek_Thessaly 7.74
6 South_Italian 8.06
7 Tuscan 8.21
8 Ashkenazi 11.66
9 North_Italian 13.14
10 Algerian_Jewish 14.55
11 Italian_Jewish 14.63
12 Sephardic_Jewish 15.06
13 Bulgarian 15.37
14 Romanian 17.17
15 Tunisian_Jewish 19.3
16 Libyan_Jewish 19.79
17 Serbian 21.21
18 Cyprian 21.31
19 Spanish_Extremadura 21.36
20 Spanish_Andalucia 21.68

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.3% Central_Greek + 16.7% Sardinian @ 3.48
2 87.7% Central_Greek + 12.3% French_Basque @ 3.78
3 83.9% Central_Greek + 16.1% Southwest_French @ 3.91
4 80.6% Central_Greek + 19.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.94
5 71.2% Central_Greek + 28.8% North_Italian @ 4.02
6 83.6% Italian_Abruzzo + 16.4% Sardinian @ 4.07
7 83.5% Central_Greek + 16.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.08
8 84% Central_Greek + 16% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.09
9 81.8% Central_Greek + 18.2% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.11
10 82.6% Central_Greek + 17.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.16
11 64.6% South_Italian + 35.4% North_Italian @ 4.36
12 83% Central_Greek + 17% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.4
13 81.5% Central_Greek + 18.5% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.4
14 79.9% South_Italian + 20.1% Southwest_French @ 4.42
15 82.4% Central_Greek + 17.6% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.43
16 59.5% Central_Greek + 40.5% Tuscan @ 4.48
17 83.4% Central_Greek + 16.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.49
18 82.9% Central_Greek + 17.1% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.53
19 62.8% North_Italian + 37.2% Cyprian @ 4.56
20 82.3% Central_Greek + 17.7% Portuguese @ 4.57

Show your Dodecad K12b, puntDNAL K15 and MDLP K23b.

[Nurzat]

you have a west med pull

[Leto]

Hi & welcome!
The results look mainland Greek to me, not Pontic.

[XK1997]

Dodecad K12B:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 32.85
2 Atlantic_Med 30.97
3 North_European 19.72
4 Southwest_Asian 8.26
5 Gedrosia 6.06
6 Northwest_African 1.73
7 East_Asian 0.21
8 Southeast_Asian 0.17
9 Siberian 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 C_Italian (Dodecad) 4.58
2 O_Italian (Dodecad) 5.07
3 Greek (Dodecad) 5.9
4 Tuscan (HGDP) 7.21
5 TSI30 (Metspalu) 8.34
6 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 9.05
7 Sicilian (Dodecad) 9.07
8 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 11.41
9 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 11.57
10 N_Italian (Dodecad) 13.79
11 North_Italian (HGDP) 15.46
12 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 15.95
13 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 15.97
14 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 16.4
15 Romanians (Behar) 17.06
16 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 18.32
17 Turkish (Dodecad) 24.01
18 Cypriots (Behar) 24.16
19 Baleares (1000Genomes) 24.33
20 Galicia (1000Genomes) 25.72

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 11.9% Armenians (Behar) @ 1.76
2 83.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 16.4% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.86
3 70.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 29.4% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.93
4 87.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 12.1% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 2.01
5 54.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 45.6% Greek (Dodecad) @ 2.03
6 88.3% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 11.7% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 2.11
7 91.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 8.6% Georgians (Behar) @ 2.12
8 90.3% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 9.7% Lezgins (Behar) @ 2.19
9 91.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 8.9% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.27
10 84.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 15.9% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 2.27
11 90.3% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 9.7% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 2.28
12 71.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 28.5% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 2.29
13 82.8% Greek (Dodecad) + 17.2% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 2.34
14 88.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 11.5% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.37
15 87.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 12.3% Druze (HGDP) @ 2.39
16 83.5% Greek (Dodecad) + 16.5% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 2.39
17 88.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 11.3% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.44
18 88.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 11.3% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 2.46
19 89.3% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 10.7% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 2.47
20 80.4% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 19.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 2.49

puntdna k15 :

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 40.54
2 NE_European 28.89
3 Caucasian 19.95
4 SW_Asian 6.91
5 Horn_Of_Africa 2.56
6 Amerindian 0.92
7 E_Asian 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tuscan 1.93
2 Albanian 2.73
3 Greek_Thessaly 5.7
4 Greek_Central 6.17
5 Italian 8.45
6 Ashkenazy_Jew 8.49
7 Sicilian 9.25
8 Montenegrin 10.26
9 Bulgarian 12.1
10 Sephardic_Jew 12.26
11 Romanian 12.75
12 Portuguese 14.13
13 Macedonian 14.35
14 Brazilian 14.49
15 Spaniard 16
16 Bosnian 17.29
17 Serbian 20.51
18 French 21.81
19 Basque 21.9
20 South_German 24.72

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.6% Tuscan + 3.4% Mozabite_Berber @ 1.32
2 52.3% Italian + 47.7% Sicilian @ 1.33
3 96.6% Tuscan + 3.4% Moroccan @ 1.38
4 97.2% Tuscan + 2.8% Colombian_B @ 1.41
5 68.2% Spaniard + 31.8% Turk_Trabzon @ 1.44
6 70.4% Sicilian + 29.6% French @ 1.46
7 98.1% Tuscan + 1.9% Ecuadorian @ 1.48
8 95.6% Tuscan + 4.4% Sardinian @ 1.5
9 99% Tuscan + 1% Colombian_A @ 1.55
10 99% Tuscan + 1% Pima @ 1.55
11 99.1% Tuscan + 0.9% Surui @ 1.55
12 99.1% Tuscan + 0.9% Karitiana @ 1.55
13 98.9% Tuscan + 1.1% Maya @ 1.55
14 80.2% Albanian + 19.8% Sicilian @ 1.55
15 59.4% Italian + 40.6% Sephardic_Jew @ 1.56
16 96.9% Tuscan + 3.1% Mexican @ 1.58
17 97% Tuscan + 3% Libyan @ 1.65
18 89.4% Tuscan + 10.6% Ashkenazy_Jew @ 1.66
19 93.6% Tuscan + 6.4% Brazilian @ 1.66
20 97.1% Tuscan + 2.9% Puerto_Rican @ 1.66

Mdlp k23 :

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 38.29
2 European_Early_Farmers 24.99
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 18.21
4 Near_East 8.76
5 North_African 4.34
6 South_Central_Asian 3.45
7 Austronesian 0.77
8 Melano_Polynesian 0.37
9 Ancestral_Altaic 0.29
10 Tungus-Altaic 0.2
11 Australoid 0.16
12 African_Pygmy 0.13
13 Paleo_Siberian 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 3.04
2 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 3.23
3 Albanian_Tirana ( ) 3.48
4 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 3.49
5 Ashkenazi ( ) 4.15
6 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 4.17
7 Kosovar ( ) 4.62
8 Sicilian_East ( ) 4.74
9 Greek_Northwest ( ) 5
10 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 5.24
11 Central_Greek ( ) 5.65
12 Sicilian_Center ( ) 6.1
13 French_Jew ( ) 6.18
14 Romanian_Jew ( ) 6.23
15 Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) 6.94
16 Sicilian_Trapani ( ) 7.01
17 Italian_Jew ( ) 7.75
18 Sicilian_West ( ) 7.86
19 Maltese ( ) 8
20 Italian_Abruzzo ( ) 8.13

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.2% Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) + 47.8% Albanian_Tirana ( ) @ 1.35
2 50.7% Kosovar ( ) + 49.3% Sicilian_East ( ) @ 1.52
3 55.4% Greek_Northwest ( ) + 44.6% Sicilian_Center ( ) @ 1.56
4 52% Greek_Thessaly ( ) + 48% Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) @ 1.6
5 79.7% Italian_South ( ) + 20.3% French ( ) @ 1.64
6 66.3% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 33.7% French_Jew ( ) @ 1.72
7 59.4% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 40.6% Sicilian_East ( ) @ 1.75
8 69.3% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 30.7% Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) @ 1.82
9 82.8% Italian_South ( ) + 17.2% Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) @ 1.82
10 64.5% Greek_Thessaly ( ) + 35.5% Sicilian_East ( ) @ 1.86
11 81.6% Italian_South ( ) + 18.4% Spaniard ( ) @ 1.87
12 71.2% Greek_Thessaly ( ) + 28.8% French_Jew ( ) @ 1.89
13 82.6% Italian_South ( ) + 17.4% Spanish_Extremadura_IBS ( ) @ 1.92
14 67.1% Romanian_Jew ( ) + 32.9% Italian_Tuscan ( ) @ 1.93
15 80.3% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 19.7% Moroccan_Jew ( ) @ 1.93
16 58% Kosovar ( ) + 42% Sicilian_Center ( ) @ 1.93
17 53.4% Ashkenazi ( ) + 46.6% Kosovar ( ) @ 1.95
18 72.3% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 27.7% Italian_Jew ( ) @ 1.96
19 83.7% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 16.3% Libyan_Jew ( ) @ 1.96
20 83.7% Greek_Athens ( ) + 16.3% Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS ( ) @ 1.97

[Impaler]

Your updated Eurogenes K13:

Distance to: XK1997
4.85942383 Greek_Western-Thrace
6.27353170 Italian_Apulia
6.37235435 Greek_Athens
6.38867748 Italian_Molise
6.45174395 Italian_Abruzzo
6.54119255 Italian_Lazio
6.97828059 Italian_Marche
7.07969632 Greek_Cyclades
7.21541406 Greek_Central
7.40993252 Italian_Sicily
7.43074693 Italian_Basilicata
7.84517686 Italian_Umbria
7.99691816 Greek_West
8.00866406 Greek_Peloponnese
8.13336954 Greek_Ionia
8.16420847 Albanian_Tosk
8.19448595 Greek_West_Macedonia
8.27562686 Italian_Romagna
8.34926943 Greek
8.42298047 Italian_Campania
8.51148048 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
8.58616911 Italian
8.88692860 Greek_Northeast
9.20685071 Greek_Central_Macedonia
9.21518991 Greek_Thessaly


Target: XK1997
Distance: 0.6388% / 0.63877561 | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.6 Greek_Western-Thrace
15.0 Italian_Sardinia
11.1 Greek_Athens
7.1 Greek_Chios
5.2 Laz

Target: XK1997
Distance: 1.9889% / 1.98888933 | ADC: 0.5x RC
51.2 Greek_Western-Thrace
37.9 Italian_Apulia
10.9 Italian_Sardinia

Distance to: XK1997
1.98744226 68.80% Greek_Istanbul + 31.20% Italian_Sardinia
2.41879331 82.80% Greek_Athens + 17.20% Italian_Sardinia
2.52321716 80.80% Greek_Central + 19.20% Italian_Sardinia
3.24915910 76.40% Greek_Andros_Island + 23.60% Italian_Sardinia
3.33392280 82.00% Greek_Cyclades + 18.00% Italian_Sardinia
3.43772245 43.40% France_Corsica + 56.60% Greek_Ionia
3.49466683 89.40% Greek_Western-Thrace + 10.60% Italian_Sardinia
3.56823875 79.60% Greek_Ionia + 20.40% Italian_Sardinia
3.62267926 71.40% Greek_Macedonia_Thrace + 28.60% Italian_Sardinia
3.69033095 54.20% France_Corsica + 45.80% Greek_Crete
3.75320636 77.80% France_Corsica + 22.20% Greek_Trabzon
3.77892991 35.00% France_Corsica + 65.00% Greek_Athens
3.78516277 79.20% France_Corsica + 20.80% Turk_East_Black_Sea
3.83108090 78.80% France_Corsica + 21.20% Greek_Caucasus
3.85729353 59.20% France_Corsica + 40.80% Greek_Chios
3.87947947 80.20% Greek_Peloponnese + 19.80% Italian_Sardinia
3.91654468 16.80% Greek_Symi_Island + 83.20% Greek_Western-Thrace
3.94316318 38.40% France_Corsica + 61.60% Greek_Cyclades
3.96183465 71.80% France_Corsica + 28.20% Greek_Cappadocian
3.98480090 14.80% Algerian_Jewish + 85.20% Greek_Western-Thrace
4.00388680 75.60% Greek_North_Aegean + 24.40% Southwest_French
4.00439248 51.60% France_Corsica + 48.40% Greek_North_Aegean
4.00595944 63.80% Greek_Western-Thrace + 36.20% Italian_Apulia
4.02570551 53.20% Greek_Chios + 46.80% Italian_Lombardy
4.03573477 73.60% Greek_Crete + 26.40% Southwest_French

[Ayetooey]

From the many pontic greek results we have, they cluster with Laz/Western Armenians. Your results are that of a west shifted mainland Greek. Doesn't make sense even with the 1/4th arvanite. Even your subbranch of r1a is the west slavic one peaking in Poland afaik.

[Impaler]

As Leto said you look mainland Greek.

[Leto]

As Leto said you look mainland Greek.
Run his Dod if you're on the PC (incl 2-way)
XK1997,6.06,0,1.73,0.17,30.97,19.72,0,0,8.26,0.21, 32.85,0

[Jana]

Your results don't look Pontic Greek.

compare with another Pontic Greek member, who is also not completely typical and looks mixed, but lot more Anatolian genetically than you.

Roman-Anatolian(Greek)

North Atlantic 11.06
Baltic 9.11
West Med 14.66
West Asian 32.15
East Med 28.15
Red Sea 4.24

[Impaler]

Run his Dod if you're on the PC (incl 2-way)
XK1997,6.06,0,1.73,0.17,30.97,19.72,0,0,8.26,0.21, 32.85,0

Distance to: XK1997
4.59508433 Italian_Lazio
4.65098914 Greek_Central
4.73402197 Italian_Marche
4.91683842 Greek_Athens
5.09625353 Albanian
5.31404742 Italian_Abruzzo
6.21008857 Greek_Peloponnese
6.47802439 Italian_Apulia
6.59802243 Greek_Thrace
6.85348816 Greek_Foca
6.91721765 Italian_Romagna
7.06004249 Greek_Thessaly
7.28963648 Greek_Thessaloniki
7.82400792 Italian_Campania
7.85755687 Greek_Lemnos
8.72459168 Albanian_Kosovo
8.89464446 Italian_Sicily
9.24904319 Bulgarian_Thrace
9.79121034 Italian_Tuscany
10.44399349 Greek_Izmir
10.58466816 Turk_Makedonya
10.59209139 Macedonian_South
10.78441932 Ashkenazi_Jews
11.19017426 Moldovan_Jewish
11.22923417 Italian_Calabria

Target: XK1997
Distance: 0.5644% / 0.56435610 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.2 Albanian
39.1 French_Corsica
9.6 Georgian_Mingrelian
4.1 Greek_Icaria

Target: XK1997
Distance: 2.4238% / 2.42383889 | ADC: 0.5x RC
43.0 Albanian
35.7 Italian_Abruzzo
21.3 Italian_Marche

Distance to: XK1997
1.89914925 58.60% Greek_Izmir + 41.40% Italian_Lombardy
2.01553079 49.40% Greek_Icaria + 50.60% Italian_Veneto
2.08644172 34.20% Greek_Pontus + 65.80% Swiss_Italian
2.09699718 41.80% Greek_Cappadocia + 58.20% Swiss_Italian
2.14346093 13.40% Georgian_Mingrelian + 86.60% Italian_Romagna
2.17510757 36.00% Greek_Cappadocia + 64.00% Italian_Veneto
2.20096676 88.20% Greek_Central + 11.80% Sardinian
2.23658175 63.60% Greek_Izmir + 36.40% Swiss_Italian
2.26273219 29.60% Greek_Pontus + 70.40% Italian_Lombardy
2.27080296 70.20% Italian_Lombardy + 29.80% Turk_East_Black_Sea
2.27225150 86.20% Greek_Foca + 13.80% Spanish_Basque
2.27525876 14.00% Georgian_Gurian + 86.00% Italian_Romagna
2.29681894 57.60% Greek_Izmir + 42.40% Italian_Veneto
2.29792509 36.20% French_Corsica + 63.80% Greek_Foca
2.30629196 26.20% French_Corsica + 73.80% Greek_Central
2.32554687 52.20% Greek_Izmir + 47.80% Italian_Emilia
2.34724759 13.60% Georgian_Imereti + 86.40% Italian_Romagna
2.35127251 27.60% French_Corsica + 72.40% Greek_Athens
2.35242392 59.60% Greek_Foca + 40.40% Italian_Tuscany
2.37831649 63.40% Greek_Foca + 36.60% Italian_Emilia
2.42526560 69.20% Greek_Foca + 30.80% Italian_Lombardy
2.42833959 55.80% Greek_Icaria + 44.20% Italian_Trentino
2.44056727 83.00% Greek_Foca + 17.00% Spanish_La_Rioja
2.45032799 50.20% Greek_Foca + 49.80% Italian_Romagna
2.47344470 13.40% Georgian_Svan + 86.60% Italian_Romagna

[Impaler]

Double.

[Jana]

Here are members of TA who are closest to your DNA profile on K13.

Distance to: XK1997(Greek)

4.85631548 manu1515(Italian)
5.73997387 Corvo(Italian)
5.99037561 donriccardo(Italian)
6.23118769 giulioimpa(Italian)
6.28329531 Hulu_brother(Albanian)
6.28601623 Journeyman26(Italian-Greek)
6.89797072 Geni(Albanian)
6.98499821 Hulu(Albanian)
7.08042372 Dibran(Albanian)
7.33679085 Ylla(Albanian)
7.42753660 Übermensch(Italian)
7.45733867 Markos(Greek)
7.61338295 DRUM(Albanian)
7.97462852 GiCa(Italian)
7.99271543 hithaeglir(Greek)
8.35765517 pmv74(Italian)
8.38072193 Kleenex(Greek)
8.44839630 Principe_Azzurro(Italian)
8.55808974 Ajeje_Brazorf(Italian)
8.60642783 lacreme's_friend_Chris(Greek)
8.66642948 Avgvstvs(Italian)
8.67661800 Chris_grandpa(Greek)
9.23941557 Xripkan(Greek)
9.24573415 Illyrian_warrior(Albanian)
9.33232018 Dorian(Greek)

you can be modeled like this:

Target: XK1997(Greek)
Distance: 1.1157% / 1.11573778 | ADC: 0.25x RC

33.5 Dibran(Albanian)
25.7 Ajeje_Brazorf(Italian)
23.5 manu1515(Italian)
11.9 Avgvstvs(Italian)
5.4 dududud_mother(French-Sardinian)

[CommonSense]

You don't sem to have any Pontic ancestry according to this. Have you tested your parents or any other family members? If they were telling you the truth about their heritage, then the only possible explaination is that you were either adopted or swapped at birth.

[Faklon]

Interdasting considering that Trabzon has always been the Greek core of Pontus.

West-shifted R1a is raw swag. Where's Sikeliot?

[Faklon]

Your conclusions suggest that you posses a large database of filtered Pontic results and that there is no diversity in Pontus.

Since he is Pontic, he represents Pontus by default.

The Y-DNA results of Pontics are skewed af hahah, the other guy who indeed scored high West-Asian was carrying I1.

There have also been RUS Slavoswedes in Pontus, maybe they cause unintelligible drifts.

[XK1997]

I know that me nor my parents aren’t adopted, what I believe is during the Ottoman Empire my ancestors probably immigrated there during Ottoman Empire. Or another way (very unlikely) I happened to be just a Pontic Greek with non Anatolian/Armenian or laz ancestry

[Faklon]

I know that me nor my parents aren’t adopted, what I believe is during the Ottoman Empire my ancestors probably immigrated there during Ottoman Empire. Or another way (very unlikely) I happened to be just a Pontic Greek with non Anatolian/Armenian or laz ancestry

Merchants (mainly from the Aegean) settled all around the Black Sea, do you have suffixes without -idis among your relatives?

Έλληνας είμαι, τρολλιά είναι το προφίλ. Αν πάλι είναι σε -ίδης, υπάρχει κάτι που να παραπέμπει σε κάποια άλλη περιοχή (Χιωτίδης ας πούμε);

[vbnetkhio]

I know that me nor my parents aren’t adopted, what I believe is during the Ottoman Empire my ancestors probably immigrated there during Ottoman Empire. Or another way (very unlikely) I happened to be just a Pontic Greek with non Anatolian/Armenian or laz ancestry

check your close relatives (on gedmatch less than 5 generations, or 10 CM), where are they from, what do they get in k13?

[A333]

Ordu'lu yakının varmı
Do you have any relatives from Ordu?

[XK1997]

Κωτίδης is my last name, Τουμπουλιδης is my grandfathers name from my mothers side and Πανιτσιδου is my grandmas name (mother’s side). Everybody has idis from all relatives

[Faklon]

Κωτίδης is my last name, Τουμπουλιδης is my grandfathers name from my mothers side and Πανιτσιδου is my grandmas name (mother’s side). Everybody has idis from all relatives

Δεν μπορώ να σκεφτώ κάτι, ίσως την Κω στο πρώτο. Τέσπα, μην πέρνεις 100% στα σοβαρά τους ξένους. Υπάρχει μεν κάποια βάση με γενετικά αποτελέσματα ότι υπάρχει μία στροφή των Ποντίων στην Ανατολή έναντι άλλων Ελλήνων, ωστόσο δε λόγω κάποιων troll και Tούρκων θεωρούν ότι οι Πόντοι είναι τελείως αποκομμένος πληθυσμός. Κάτι το οποίο απορρίπτεται από το Identity by Descent (IBD) και μόνο.

Τώρα αν θες να το ψάξεις παραπάνω, σίγουρα υπάρχουν έμποροι από τα Δυτικά παράλια της Μικρας Ασίας και την Ελλάδα κατά μήκος της Μαύρη θάλασσας.

Νομίζω πως η Τραπεζούντα είχε και ένα Γενοβέζικο κάστρο.

[XK1997]

Νομίζω ήταν από τους Βίκινγκ ή αλλιώς Goths. Αλλα όπως το είπες, οι Πόντιοι έχουν ελληνικές ρίζες. Αλλα ο καθένας σε διαφορετικό βαθμό, εγώ απλός έτυχε να έχω ελλαδητικη καταγωγή παρα Ανατολική/Καυκασια

[Faklon]

Νομίζω ήταν από τους Βίκινγκ ή αλλιώς Goths. Αλλα όπως το είπες, οι Πόντιοι έχουν ελληνικές ρίζες. Αλλα ο καθένας σε διαφορετικό βαθμό, εγώ απλός έτυχε να έχω ελλαδητικη καταγωγή παρα Ανατολική/Καυκασια

Γενικά είναι τα μέρη που επιτέθηκαν και αργότερα επιστρατεύτηκαν οι Βαράγγοι Βίκινγκς, αυτό το λέω γιατί ένας άλλος Πόντιος βγήκε με ydna Ι1 από ότι θυμάμαι που είναι τρελά σπάνιο για την Ελλάδα.

Ωστόσο και οι Γενουάτες (Βορειοι Ιταλοί) στην μεταγενέστερη ιστορία και μαζί τους (αν όχι κυρίως) πολλοί από το Αιγαίο είχαν εμπορικές αποικίες σε αυτά τα μέρη.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Genoa

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Repubblica_di_Genova.png

[XK1997]

Ααα κατάλαβα, αλλα δεν καταλαβαίνω γιατί έχω τόσο μεγάλη διαφορά με άλλους Ποντίους. Κατά τη γνώμη σου, τα αποτελέσματα μου είναι όμοια με έναν Ηπειρώτη, Πελλοπονησιο, ή Αθηναίο; Γιατί έτσι πιστεύω θα καταλάβω από που κατάγομαι. Όλα τα κοντινά matches μου στο gedmatch και ancestry είναι Αλβανοί όποτε δεν ξέρω σε τι κοντά πέφτω

[King Niko]

I am Pontic, I do not consider myself Greek but my families culture is Greek or Pontic Greek. Your results look like mainland Greek. So you are just Greek genetically speaking more than likely!

[Unknown European]

I will run the results from the updated spreadsheets on Vahaduo and post them

[XK1997]

Thank you bro you the best, wanted to upvote your comment but missclicked cause I’m on the phone ��

[Unknown European]

Eurogenes K13 updated spreadsheet (The Impaler already did this one)
XK1997,19.94,10.53,26.31,13.33,26.6,2.33,0,0.57,0, 0.39,0,0,0

Distance to: XK1997
4.85942383 Greek_Western-Thrace
6.27353170 Italian_Apulia
6.37235435 Greek_Athens
6.38867748 Italian_Molise
6.45174395 Italian_Abruzzo
6.54119255 Italian_Lazio
6.97828059 Italian_Marche
7.07969632 Greek_Cyclades
7.21541406 Greek_Central
7.40993252 Italian_Sicily
7.43074693 Italian_Basilicata
7.84517686 Italian_Umbria
7.99691816 Greek_West
8.00866406 Greek_Peloponnese
8.13336954 Greek_Ionia
8.16420847 Albanian_Tosk
8.19448595 Greek_West_Macedonia
8.27562686 Italian_Romagna
8.34926943 Greek
8.42298047 Italian_Campania
8.51148048 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
8.58616911 Italian
8.88692860 Greek_Northeast
9.20685071 Greek_Central_Macedonia
9.21518991 Greek_Thessaly

Target: XK1997
Distance: 0.4270% / 0.42704677
44.4 Greek_Western-Thrace
19.5 Greek_West
16.6 Italian_Sardinia
11.3 Greek_Trabzon
3.7 Italian_Lombardy
2.2 Italian_Marche
1.7 Italian_Molise
0.6 Greek_Cappadocian

Dodecad K12b updated spreadsheet
XK1997,6.06,0.03,1.73,0.17,30.97,19.72,0,0,8.26,0. 21,32.85,0
Distance to: XK1997
4.59518226 Italian_Lazio
4.64915046 Greek_Central
4.73361004 Italian_Marche
4.91461087 Greek_Athens
5.09463443 Albanian
5.31396274 Italian_Abruzzo
6.20933974 Greek_Peloponnese
6.47661177 Italian_Apulia
6.59640811 Greek_Thrace
6.85272209 Greek_Foca
6.91728270 Italian_Romagna
7.05844884 Greek_Thessaly
7.28821652 Greek_Thessaloniki
7.82372034 Italian_Campania
7.85749960 Greek_Lemnos
8.72416185 Albanian_Kosovo
8.89307596 Italian_Sicily
9.24776189 Bulgarian_Thrace
9.79110310 Italian_Tuscany
10.44351952 Greek_Izmir
10.57963610 Turk_Makedonya
10.59136913 Macedonian_South
10.78270838 Ashkenazi_Jews
11.18879350 Moldovan_Jewish
11.22892693 Italian_Calabria

Target: XK1997
Distance: 0.2645% / 0.26445625
30.5 Albanian
18.7 Sardinian
17.7 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
10.0 Georgian_Gurian
5.0 Albanian_Kosovo
4.8 Laz
4.3 Greek_Foca
3.8 Italian_Veneto
3.1 French_Corsica
2.0 Greek_Izmir
0.1 Swiss_Italian

PuntDNAL K15 World
XK1997,0.00,40.54,0.00,0.00,0.92,0.00,0.22,19.95,2 8.89,0.00,0.00,2.56,0.00,0.00,6.91

Distance to: XK1997
2.03634476 Tuscan
2.96052360 Albanian
6.23078647 Greek_Thessaly
6.77249585 Greek_Central
9.38129522 Italian
9.39311982 Ashkenazy_Jew
10.24747286 Sicilian
11.35969630 Montenegrin
13.36640191 Bulgarian
13.61597224 Sephardic_Jew
14.10690257 Romanian
15.58924950 Brazilian
15.71924617 Portuguese
15.84489508 Macedonian
17.85476687 Spaniard
19.03750772 Bosnian
22.67758144 Serbian
24.23713473 French
24.27267394 Basque
27.43582876 South_German
27.83793635 Cypriot
28.31552048 Utahn_White
28.82600735 Croatian
28.97427652 Sardinian
29.90088126 Turk_Kayseri

Target: XK1997
Distance: 0.2936% / 0.29357558
31.5 Sicilian
21.0 Basque
18.5 Tuscan
6.7 Samaritian
5.8 Georgian
4.7 Irish
4.7 Lithuanian
3.4 Portuguese
1.8 Balkar
0.7 Colombian_A
0.6 Sardinian
0.4 Yemenite_Jew
0.1 Karitiana
0.1 Somali

MDLP K23b UPDATED
XK1997,0.00,0.29,3.45,0.00,0.00,0.16,0.77,38.29,0. 00,0.00,0.00,24.99,0.00,0.37,0.00,8.76,4.34,0.04,0 .13,0.00,0.00,0.2,18.21

Distance to: XK1997
3.90563695 Greek_Peloponnesos
4.20565096 Greek_Thessaly
4.43888500 Albanian_Tirana
4.77710163 Central_Greek
5.22738941 Greek_Thessaloniki
5.36599478 Greek_Northwest
5.60621084 Ashkenazi
6.34840137 Kosovar
6.73360230 Greek
6.89176320 Greek_Athens
7.08899852 Sicilian_Siracusa
7.48480461 Ashkenazi_Jew
8.04683167 Romanian_Jew
8.26972188 Italian_South
8.51390627 Greek_Macedonia
8.52919105 Sicilian_East
8.64097795 Greek_Phokaia
8.65275679 Sicilian_West
8.71002296 Sicilian_Center
8.76441099 Sicilian_Trapani
8.86878797 Italian_Abruzzo
9.60164048 Italian_Tuscan
10.56674974 Sicilian_Agrigento
10.85728327 Maltese
11.11777406 Cretan

Target: XK1997
Distance: 0.9594% / 0.95942796
37.7 Kosovar
23.6 Christian_Arabs_Israel
10.8 Sardinian
10.2 Croat_BH
6.1 Albanian_Tirana
4.7 Pole
2.7 Italian_South
2.3 Greek_Thessaly
1.4 Georgian_Laz
0.3 Ami_Taiwan
0.2 Gagauz

[XK1997]

Thank you brother, I know I’m gonna sound dumb but I’m new to this. What do these results show? I’m very new to it

[Unknown European]

Thank you brother, I know I’m gonna sound dumb but I’m new to this. What do these results show? I’m very new to it

Well, firstly what I and others on this thread have said is that you are unlike other Pontic Greeks. For comparison here is how you compare to the Trabzon Greek population average from MDLP K23b Updated.

Distance to: XK1997
3.90563695 Greek_Peloponnesos
4.20565096 Greek_Thessaly
4.43888500 Albanian_Tirana
4.77710163 Central_Greek
5.22738941 Greek_Thessaloniki
5.36599478 Greek_Northwest
5.60621084 Ashkenazi
6.34840137 Kosovar
6.73360230 Greek
6.89176320 Greek_Athens
7.08899852 Sicilian_Siracusa
7.48480461 Ashkenazi_Jew
8.04683167 Romanian_Jew
8.26972188 Italian_South
8.51390627 Greek_Macedonia
8.52919105 Sicilian_East
8.64097795 Greek_Phokaia
8.65275679 Sicilian_West
8.71002296 Sicilian_Center
8.76441099 Sicilian_Trapani
8.86878797 Italian_Abruzzo
9.60164048 Italian_Tuscan
10.56674974 Sicilian_Agrigento
10.85728327 Maltese
11.11777406 Cretan

Distance to: Greek_Trabzon
3.58799387 Hemshin_Rize
3.64291092 Armenian
5.00257933 Turk_East_Black_sea
5.27327223 Armenian_Yerevan
6.36411031 Assyrian_Arzni
7.32224692 Armenian_West
7.51355442 Armenian_East
7.97721756 Laz_Artvin
8.70581989 Jew_Tat
9.10735966 Turk_Trabzon
9.49073232 Turk_East
9.85347147 Georgian_Jew
10.04328631 Laz_Rize
10.13630110 Turk_Kayseri
10.44589393 Assyrian_Iraqi
11.46789867 Cappadocian_Greek
11.68329577 Turk
12.06063846 Kakheti
12.28927174 Iraqi_Jew
12.52675137 Lebanese_Druze
12.69379770 Uzbekistani_Jew
12.95978395 Druze
13.07619211 Turk_Adana
13.21860053 Iraqi_Chaldean
13.23621547 Iranian_Jew

[catgeorge]

Probably merchant or the like from the mainland that travelled to Pontus and decided to stay there.

[Armenian Bishop]

The member "King Niko" has Pontic Greek ancestry, from his dad.

[Natixy]

Unique

[Botmaro]

Your results have nothing to do with Pontic Greeks.You have typical Slavobalkanic mainland Greek results and your yDNA is also Slavic.Maybe your ancestors moved to Pontus for business and remained there assilimated with the native population(probalby during the Ottoman times).There is not any other explanation...or you are adopted!!!

[XK1997]

Probably merchant or the like from the mainland that travelled to Pontus and decided to stay there.

To my surprise I just found out from my uncle that my mothers father wasn’t Pontic either, he immigrated from West Turkey to Pontus. And he also told me that his family were merchants and moved a lot. So that would explain partially that I don’t have any Caucasian or Laz ancestry. But I have I have 2 grandparents left for question, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they immigrated to Pontus also.

[Avicenna]

To my surprise I just found out from my uncle that my mothers father wasn’t Pontic either, he immigrated from West Turkey to Pontus. And he also told me that his family were merchants and moved a lot. So that would explain partially that I don’t have any Caucasian or Laz ancestry. But I have I have 2 grandparents left for question, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they immigrated to Pontus also.

May I ask what you look like ?

[lacreme]

Καταρχήν συγχαρητήρια για τα αποτελέσματά σου!

Τώρα στο θέμα της καταγωγής,σίγουρα κάτι δεν βγάζει νόημα.. Έχεις ψάξει μήπως τα χωριά καταγωγής των προγόνων σου κατοικήθηκαν από Έλληνες της ηπειρωτικής Ελλαδας, των νησιών ή και της Μικράς Ασίας απο τον 18ο αιώνα και μετά ?

Δες για παράδειγμα τη σύγκριση στο K13 updated ενός φίλου μου που εχει ενα τυπικό "Σμυρνιώτικο" γενετικό προφίλ (μίξη ηπειρωτικής με νησιωτικής Ελλάδας) με εσένα. Ίσως μία προγιαγιά του να είχε έστω και μερική ποντιακή καταγωγή ενω μεγαλο ερωτηματικό είναι ο πατέρας της μάνας του ο οποίος είναι άγνωστος (οπότε και η καταγωγή του είναι άγνωστη αλλά μάλλον χωρίς άμεση σχέση με Πόντο βάσει κάποιων ενδείξεων) άλλα σε κάθε περίπτωση θα έπρεπε να είχε μικρότερη δυτικοασιατική τάση απο εσένα, παρόλα αυτα...

Distance ratio: ( AC / BC ) ↑
A: XK1997
B: lacreme's_friend_Chris(Greek)
C: ↴
0.48424325 Greek_Western-Thrace
0.50690381 Italian_Lazio
0.54104595 Italian_Marche
0.56441689 French_Corsica
0.56940224 Italian_Umbria
0.57136507 Italian_Romagna
0.59452609 Italian
0.59949175 Italian_Tuscan
0.65949332 Italian_Emilia
0.66218841 Albanian_Tosk
0.67601063 Italian_Liguria
0.68528460 Torbesh_average
0.70021946 Italian_Lombardy
0.70531042 Italian_Abruzzo
0.70895315 Albanian
0.73496879 Albanian_Gheg
0.73933519 Italian_Molise
0.74379466 Italian_Piedmont
0.74514367 Italian_Veneto
0.75905748 Greek_Thessaly
0.76977292 Greek_West
0.77549324 Swiss_Italian
0.77763730 Swiss-Italian2
0.77858008 Italian_Trentino
0.78149252 French_Provence


Distance ratio: ( AC / BC ) ↓
A: XK1997
B: lacreme's_friend_Chris(Greek)
C: ↴
1.51565873 Greek_Chios
1.51552461 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
1.47565965 Greek_Istanbul
1.42300491 Greek_Crete
1.41400394 Turk_Central_West
1.40638512 Turk_North_West
1.39862322 Turk_Anatolia
1.37051425 Turk_Turkey_average
1.36890259 Greek_Dodecanese
1.36690762 Turk_Central_East
1.36210485 Turk_South
1.35422157 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
1.35358410 Greek_Cappadocian
1.33028642 Turk_South_East
1.32761234 Turk_East
1.32202047 Greek_North_Aegean
1.30549053 Azerbaijani_Turkey
1.29232265 Azeri
1.28724853 Azerbaijani_Iran
1.28579580 Greek_Trabzon
1.28098519 Zaza
1.27894682 Turkmen_Iraq
1.27529089 Armenian
1.27478590 Armenian_East
1.27383482 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey





Γενικά είναι τα μέρη που επιτέθηκαν και αργότερα επιστρατεύτηκαν οι Βαράγγοι Βίκινγκς, αυτό το λέω γιατί ένας άλλος Πόντιος βγήκε με ydna Ι1 από ότι θυμάμαι που είναι τρελά σπάνιο για την Ελλάδα.

Ωστόσο και οι Γενουάτες (Βορειοι Ιταλοί) στην μεταγενέστερη ιστορία και μαζί τους (αν όχι κυρίως) πολλοί από το Αιγαίο είχαν εμπορικές αποικίες σε αυτά τα μέρη.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Genoa

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Repubblica_di_Genova.png

Αν εννοείς τον φίλο που έχω ανεβάσει κατά καιρούς τα αποτελέσματά του όχι απλά βγήκε I1 αλλά συγκεκριμένα I1-L22 το οποίο πρέπει να είναι ακόμη πιο σπάνιο στη χώρα :biggrin.
Η πατρική γραμμή του όμως είναι από τη περιοχή της Σμυρνης, όχι από τον Πόντο.
Για την ιστορία να προσθέσω ότι οι πρόγονοί του μάλλον προτοξεκίνησαν από την ηπειρωτική Ελλάδα πριν καταλήξουν άμεσα ή μετά απο περιπλανήσεις στη Σμύρνη καθώς ο υποκλάδος που ανήκει κάτω απο το I1-L22 από την ηλικία του και τα άτομα που περιλαμβάνει επίσης, τουλάχιστον 2 Βούλγαρους Πομάκους, 1 Βουλγαρο, 1 Ουκρανο και καμια 10αρια Σουηδούς φαίνεται ότι οδηγεί σε καταγωγή από κάποιον εξελληνισμένο ή εξισλαβισμένο Γότθο της Μακεδονίας/Θράκης/Μοισίας.

[XK1997]

I r

[XK1997]

May I ask what you look like ?

I tried posting a picture but I’m not sure if I’m doing anything wrong, it logs me out when I try

[XK1997]

Καταρχήν συγχαρητήρια για τα αποτελέσματά σου!

Τώρα στο θέμα της καταγωγής,σίγουρα κάτι δεν βγάζει νόημα.. Έχεις ψάξει μήπως τα χωριά καταγωγής των προγόνων σου κατοικήθηκαν από Έλληνες της ηπειρωτικής Ελλαδας, των νησιών ή και της Μικράς Ασίας απο τον 18ο αιώνα και μετά ?

Δες για παράδειγμα τη σύγκριση στο K13 updated ενός φίλου μου που εχει ενα τυπικό "Σμυρνιώτικο" γενετικό προφίλ (μίξη ηπειρωτικής με νησιωτικής Ελλάδας) με εσένα. Ίσως μία προγιαγιά του να είχε έστω και μερική ποντιακή καταγωγή ενω μεγαλο ερωτηματικό είναι ο πατέρας της μάνας του ο οποίος είναι άγνωστος (οπότε και η καταγωγή του είναι άγνωστη αλλά μάλλον χωρίς άμεση σχέση με Πόντο βάσει κάποιων ενδείξεων) άλλα σε κάθε περίπτωση θα έπρεπε να είχε μικρότερη δυτικοασιατική τάση απο εσένα, παρόλα αυτα...

Distance ratio: ( AC / BC ) ↑
A: XK1997
B: lacreme's_friend_Chris(Greek)
C: ↴
0.48424325 Greek_Western-Thrace
0.50690381 Italian_Lazio
0.54104595 Italian_Marche
0.56441689 French_Corsica
0.56940224 Italian_Umbria
0.57136507 Italian_Romagna
0.59452609 Italian
0.59949175 Italian_Tuscan
0.65949332 Italian_Emilia
0.66218841 Albanian_Tosk
0.67601063 Italian_Liguria
0.68528460 Torbesh_average
0.70021946 Italian_Lombardy
0.70531042 Italian_Abruzzo
0.70895315 Albanian
0.73496879 Albanian_Gheg
0.73933519 Italian_Molise
0.74379466 Italian_Piedmont
0.74514367 Italian_Veneto
0.75905748 Greek_Thessaly
0.76977292 Greek_West
0.77549324 Swiss_Italian
0.77763730 Swiss-Italian2
0.77858008 Italian_Trentino
0.78149252 French_Provence


Distance ratio: ( AC / BC ) ↓
A: XK1997
B: lacreme's_friend_Chris(Greek)
C: ↴
1.51565873 Greek_Chios
1.51552461 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
1.47565965 Greek_Istanbul
1.42300491 Greek_Crete
1.41400394 Turk_Central_West
1.40638512 Turk_North_West
1.39862322 Turk_Anatolia
1.37051425 Turk_Turkey_average
1.36890259 Greek_Dodecanese
1.36690762 Turk_Central_East
1.36210485 Turk_South
1.35422157 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
1.35358410 Greek_Cappadocian
1.33028642 Turk_South_East
1.32761234 Turk_East
1.32202047 Greek_North_Aegean
1.30549053 Azerbaijani_Turkey
1.29232265 Azeri
1.28724853 Azerbaijani_Iran
1.28579580 Greek_Trabzon
1.28098519 Zaza
1.27894682 Turkmen_Iraq
1.27529089 Armenian
1.27478590 Armenian_East
1.27383482 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey






Αν εννοείς τον φίλο που έχω ανεβάσει κατά καιρούς τα αποτελέσματά του όχι απλά βγήκε I1 αλλά συγκεκριμένα I1-L22 το οποίο πρέπει να είναι ακόμη πιο σπάνιο στη χώρα :biggrin.
Η πατρική γραμμή του όμως είναι από τη περιοχή της Σμυρνης, όχι από τον Πόντο.
Για την ιστορία να προσθέσω ότι οι πρόγονοί του μάλλον προτοξεκίνησαν από την ηπειρωτική Ελλάδα πριν καταλήξουν άμεσα ή μετά απο περιπλανήσεις στη Σμύρνη καθώς ο υποκλάδος που ανήκει κάτω απο το I1-L22 από την ηλικία του και τα άτομα που περιλαμβάνει επίσης, τουλάχιστον 2 Βούλγαρους Πομάκους, 1 Βουλγαρο, 1 Ουκρανο και καμια 10αρια Σουηδούς φαίνεται ότι οδηγεί σε καταγωγή από κάποιον εξελληνισμένο ή εξισλαβισμένο Γότθο της Μακεδονίας/Θράκης/Μοισίας.

Συγγνώμη αλλα επειδή δεν γνωρίζω από τα τεστ, δηλαδή έχω πιο πολύ δυτικοασιατικο από τον φίλο;

[lacreme]

Συγγνώμη αλλα επειδή δεν γνωρίζω από τα τεστ, δηλαδή έχω πιο πολύ δυτικοασιατικο από τον φίλο;

Λιγοτερο, σε αυτου του τυπου τη συγκριση (αναλογια αποστασης ; ) εσυ που το username σου οπως βλεπεις ειναι απο πανω συγκριτικα με τον φιλο μου εχεις μεγαλυτερες τασεις προς τους πληθυσμους της πρωτης λιστας ( με τη ταση να ειναι φθινουσα προς τα κατω) και μικροτερες προς της δευτερης.

Ειναι κατι που φαινεται και απο τις σχετικες τιμες στο eurogenes k13 και dodecad k12b.
Συγκεκριμενα, περιπου 20 εναντι 13 west asian ο φιλος μου και εσυ αντιστοιχα στο πρωτο και περιπου 37 εναντι 33 caucasus στο δευτερο.

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Α κατι αλλο, ειναι σιγουρο οτι οι προγονοι σου ειναι απο τη περιοχη Macka της Τραπεζουντας και οχι απο την ομωνυμη περιοχη της Κωνσταντινουπολης ? Ρωταω γιατι τα αποτελεσματα θα ηταν πιο λογικα στη 2η περιπτωση (οι Κων/πουλιτες σε μεγαλο ποσοστο μοιαζουν γενετικα με τους υπολοιπους Ελληνες της ηπειρωτικης Ελλαδας ) συν οτι στα 100 χρονια που εχουν περασει μπορει να χαθει ή να διαστρεβλωθει εν δυναμει καποιο ποσοστο της οικογενειακης ιστοριας.
Για παραδειγμα, ο φιλος μου εχει μαθει οτι ενας προ-προπαππους του ηταν απο τα Καραμπουρνα της Μικρας Ασιας, κανενας ομως απο τους εν ζωη συγγενεις/απογονους του δεν γνωριζει απο ποιο χωριο της συγκεκριμενης περιοχης ηταν... Καποιοι μαλιστα νομιζαν οτι Καραμπουρνα ηταν η ονομασια του ιδιου του χωριου πραγμα που δεν ισχυει αφου οπως προειπα ηταν απλα η ονομασια της συγκεκριμενης περιοχης.