Does he look more British or Iberian?

[MobyD]

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On first glance, he would easily pass almost anywhere in the British Isles. However, there is a slight Med strain there which suggests an Iberian influence.

[Ygsi]

Clearly Iberian. He has a visible Arabid vibe. I'd classify him as North Atllantid + Arabid.

[MobyD]

Clearly Spanish. He has a visible Arabid vibe. I'd classify him as North Atllantid + Arabid.

Why would he have an Arabid vibe if he looks Spanish? LOL

[Ygsi]

Why would he have an Arabid vibe if he looks Spanish? LOL

Because Arabids can be found in Iberia due to the Islamic conquest of Iberia. On the other hand, Arabids don't exist among native Brits.

[Xacal]

North Atlantid + Med. British

[Gallop]

He is the typical chameleon-like person so he must have some ancestral mixture that allows him to do so; sometimes his neolithic comes out.

[Cristiano viejo]

Because Arabids can be found in Iberia due to the Islamic conquest of Iberia. On the other hand, Arabids don't exist among native Brits.

Arabids can not be found here.
Islamic conquest of Iberia did not happen, we fought since the beginning and we won.
You can bet your ass there are muuuuch more Arabids currently in UK than there were in Iberia ever.

[Ygsi]

Arabids can not be found here.
Islamic conquest of Iberia did not happen, we fought since the beginning and we won.
You can bet your ass there are muuuuch more Arabids currently in UK than there were in Iberia ever.

http://humanphenotypes.net/Arabid.html

[Cristiano viejo]

http://humanphenotypes.net/Arabid.html

Good luck searchin Spaniards like that morph :lol:

[Gallop]

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The men of that era had a touch of effeminate appearance.

This is something that is now being done in a contrived way to bring about population change in Europe. It is promoted that men paint their nails, wear skirts, in short, become effeminate with the argument of equality, but they know perfectly well that in time they will not be attractive to women who will change them for men from other latitudes as has already happened naturally in the past.


At this time of day I allow myself these licenses. lol

[Ygsi]

Good luck searchin Spaniards like that morph :lol:

Since you are from Castlie and Leon, I think you may not find such people over there. But in other parts of Spain, as well as Portugal, people who look like that can be found in small proportions. Just check the map.

[Cristiano viejo]

Since you are from Castlie and Leon, I think you may not find such people over there. But in other parts of Spain, as well as Portugal, people who look like that can be found in small proportions. Just check the map.

Feel free to post ethnic Spaniards (not Gypsy or other immigrants) that look like that. It should be easy, according your words.

[Ygsi]

Feel free to post ethnic Spaniards (not Gypsy or other immigrants) that look like that. It should be easy, according your words.

I don't know that many people from Spain or Portugal, but the guy in the op may well be such a person. The guy in the op pictures certainly doesn't look 100% native to UK.

As for your observation that present day UK has more Arabids due to migration than Iberia, I think you may be right. The main source of immigration to UK is South Asia and that place has a very small number of Arabids. On the other hand, Iberia gets migrants from North Africa, which is not really a hotbed for Arabids either.

[Ayetooey]

Arabids can not be found here.
Islamic conquest of Iberia did not happen, we fought since the beginning and we won.
You can bet your ass there are muuuuch more Arabids currently in UK than there were in Iberia ever.

Arabs in the UK are only around 200k out of 65 million. This isn't France or Belgium or Germany, we don't have Arabs here in any significant numbers, just Pakistanis/Indians.

Arabs in Spain are 1.6-1.8 million out of 47 million.

[Cristiano viejo]

Arabs in the UK are only around 200k out of 65 million. This isn't France or Belgium or Germany, we don't have Arabs here in any significant numbers, just Pakistanis/Indians.

Arabs in Spain are 1.6-1.8 million out of 47 million.
We have North Africans, not proper Arabs. That is why I said Arabids, not Arabs. Only in Birmingham you have the half of all our Muslim population.

[Bragisson]

I'd say Iberian

[Uranous]

This guy pass in all west europea , mainly native britains looks more dark than him , he have 0 arabid feature. he is jut Altantid-Alpine med mix

[Charlemagne7]

Feel free to post ethnic Spaniards (not Gypsy or other immigrants) that look like that. It should be easy, according your words.

He doesn't look that similar to the morph, but Daniel Parejo is Arabid if I'm not mistaken:

https://cdn.sportmob.com/resource/news/20210303_951353/item_2_4024.jpg?cache=1618669484&d=600_338

https://staticg.sportskeeda.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Daniel-Parejo-1346062803.jpg

[Cristiano viejo]

He doesn't look that similar to the morph, but Daniel Parejo is Arabid if I'm not mistaken:


You wish.

[lustermoo]

He doesn't look that similar to the morph, but Daniel Parejo is Arabid if I'm not mistaken:

https://cdn.sportmob.com/resource/news/20210303_951353/item_2_4024.jpg?cache=1618669484&d=600_338

https://staticg.sportskeeda.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Daniel-Parejo-1346062803.jpg

I disagree with him being arabid, he doesn’t resemble it very well, maybehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210614/ab6e207d36f1acabb40041063e7d482c.jpg
a south med + baskid or something.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210614/f1b1706778d42947f4573acd4583cd1e.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210614/ac871fb46be0b2f58159e51e6f4658b5.jpg

[Charlemagne7]

You wish.

He's been classified as such. I'm not sure if he actually is though, can anyone confirm it?

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?180390-Classify-Dani-Parejo-spanish-footballer/page2

[Ygsi]

This guy pass in all west europea , mainly native britains looks more dark than him , he have 0 arabid feature. he is jut Altantid-Alpine med mix

How about the lips though?

[Cristiano viejo]

He's been classified as such. I'm not sure if he actually is though, can anyone confirm it?

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?180390-Classify-Dani-Parejo-spanish-footballer/page2

Pure science :rolleyes:

[mergen3]

British

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[Demis]

Clearly Iberian. He has a visible Arabid vibe. I'd classify him as North Atllantid + Arabid.

:picard2:

[Arūnas]

Berberian

[Ygsi]

:picard2:

I am yet to see a Brit who looks like him. There is clearly something about his lips that just scream Arabid. Also the area around eyes and nose.

[MobyD]

I am yet to see a Brit who looks like him. There is clearly something about his lips that just scream Arabid. Also the area around eyes and nose.

What about his lips "scream Arabid"?

[MobyD]

I am yet to see a Brit who looks like him. There is clearly something about his lips that just scream Arabid. Also the area around eyes and nose.

What about his lips "scream Arabid"?

[Ygsi]

What about his lips "scream Arabid"?

The lips (especially his lower lip) are outward-ish. I've never seen a Brit with outward-ish lips. That's clearly a Mid-Eastern feature, which may be found in Iberia, albeit in small proportions, due to the Islamic conquest of Iberia which lasted until reconquista, where some of the MENAs remained there as they converted to Christianity.

[Cristiano viejo]

The lips (especially his lower lip) are outward-ish. I've never seen a Brit with outward-ish lips. That's clearly a Mid-Eastern feature, which may be found in Iberia, albeit in small proportions, due to the Islamic conquest of Iberia which lasted until reconquista, where some of the MENAs remained there as they converted to Christianity.

Real life was absolutely the opposite: it were the Iberians who converted to Islam. MENAS, he says :D
Your ignorance is great :D

[Ygsi]

Real life was absolutely the opposite: it were the Iberians who converted to Islam. MENAS, he says :D
Your ignorance is great :D

I am aware that most Muslims in Iberia during the Andalus time were native Iberians. But clearly among those Muslims, there were some MENAs also. You can't deny that.

[Ygsi]

Real life was absolutely the opposite: it were the Iberians who converted to Islam. MENAS, he says :D
Your ignorance is great :D

I am aware that most Muslims in Iberia during the Andalus time were native Iberians. But clearly among those Muslims, there were some MENAs also. You can't deny that.

[Damião de Góis]

Is he a bollywood actor?

[MobyD]

Is he a bollywood actor?

No, he's American.

[Damião de Góis]

No, he's American.

There's something indian about him in the first pic. Kind of like an actor i've seen posted here before.

[chociprasa]

There's something indian about him in the first pic. Kind of like an actor i've seen posted here before.

Hrithik Roshan?

[Damião de Góis]

Hrithik Roshan?

Yeah that one. I didn't know his name.

[Grogu]

neither. Looks greek I think

[Cristiano viejo]

I am aware that most Muslims in Iberia during the Andalus time were native Iberians. But clearly among those Muslims, there were some MENAs also. You can't deny that.

And do you seriously think some MENAs a lot of centuries ago and supposing they mixed with Spaniards could alter our phenotype?? :lol:

[Ygsi]

And do you seriously think some MENAs a lot of centuries ago and supposing they mixed with Spaniards could alter our phenotype?? :lol:

It's not as if I said that all Iberians are MENAs.

[Cristiano viejo]

It's not as if I said that all Iberians are MENAs.

Genetic does not lie.

[IndoEuropeanR1b]

He could pass more as an englishman or welshman.

[MobyD]

He could pass more as an englishman or welshman.

Welsh > English

[IndoEuropeanR1b]

Welsh > English

I think both phenotypes look alike, but yes, he might pass better as a welsh.

[Davystayn]

I think both phenotypes look alike, but yes, he might pass better as a welsh.

He passes on the darker end so Wales a better fit but looks too cleancut in general

He looks American to me, ie North European with a Sicilian grandfather or something. This seems common in the US

[IndoEuropeanR1b]

He passes on the darker end so Wales a better fit but looks too cleancut in general

He looks American to me, ie North European with a Sicilian grandfather or something. This seems common in the US

Well, most white americans like me are just a mix of british (eng, sct, wal, crn), irish and german (mostly west and south), and certainly there is southern italian influence, though is not my case, not even with the typical german-irish mix. This man passes in America, actually all northwestern europeans passes here without any problem, but black hair is not that uncommon in any place of northwest Europe, in my opinion. Wales, Northern France, Belgium and England might be the less light-haired in Northwest Europe, and the most light-haired by my own experience are all scandinavian countries, Finland and Scotland. Ireland and Germany are midterm on this.

[Grace O'Malley]

He passes on the darker end so Wales a better fit but looks too cleancut in general

He looks American to me, ie North European with a Sicilian grandfather or something. This seems common in the US

I also see something Italian in his features. He's an American so he most likely has mixed ancestry. Does anyone know what his ancestry is?

[Davystayn]

Well, most white americans like me are just a mix of british (eng, sct, wal, crn), irish and german (mostly west and south), and certainly there is southern italian influence, though is not my case, not even with the typical german-irish mix. This man passes in America, actually all northwestern europeans passes here without any problem, but black hair is not that uncommon in any place of northwest Europe, in my opinion. Wales, Northern France, Belgium and England might be the less light-haired in Northwest Europe, and the most light-haired by my own experience are all scandinavian countries, Finland and Scotland. Ireland and Germany are midterm on this.

Why don't you look at the actual statistics on hair colour rather than sweeping statements.

Ireland and Scotland are not more light haired than Eng either, slightly more light eyed. There are dozens of studies on all this stuff on the net and on this site.

Black hair as well is extremely rare anywhere in NW Europe, unless people have other ancestry going on, which many people do. Again there are detailed studies on all this on here.

[IndoEuropeanR1b]

Why don't you look at the actual statistics on hair colour rather than sweeping statements.

Ireland and Scotland are not more light haired than Eng either, slightly more light eyed. There are dozens of studies on all this stuff on the net and on this site.

Black hair as well is extremely rare anywhere in NW Europe, unless people have other ancestry going on, which many people do. Again there are detailed studies on all this on here.

Of course black hair is rare in NW Europe, what i meant is that in those countries (Wales, Northern France and maybe England). You could be right about England, it might be at irish levels in hair colour but i consider red-hair as a light-haired type, and this numbers in Ireland are high, so in Scotland.

[Ayetooey]

Could pass in South Wales but he probably has some Italian ancestry especially being from Jersey

[Ylla]

Neither looks south italian

[guyinsf]

He leans a tad more Iberian than English to me.

[JamesBond007]

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On first glance, he would easily pass almost anywhere in the British Isles. However, there is a slight Med strain there which suggests an Iberian influence.

Somewhat close to British but no cigar so maybe French. There is something weird about his eyes, his lips are too purpleish, and he is just a tad too much med in other aspects too.

[Genovese]

Arabids can not be found here.
Islamic conquest of Iberia did not happen, we fought since the beginning and we won.
You can bet your ass there are muuuuch more Arabids currently in UK than there were in Iberia ever.

there is a rumour that berbers and arabs have many descendants in spain, it is totally wrong.
modern spaniards are descendants of those who reconquest the land, and are mainly from northwest part of spain, as a result, genetic diversity in spain is low, while in italy and greece is high, because early genetic trait of spain has been removed due to reconquista, and modern spaniards are mainly of northwest iberian ancestry and northeast/aragon ancestry.
And early residents of canary islands, the guanches, have blue eyes, tall stature and blonde hair, it is said that guanches are descendants of cro-magnons. The guanches do not look like modern berbers because modern berbers have many bantu admixture, while guanches look like typical europeans.

[Immanenz]

there is a rumour that berbers and arabs have many descendants in spain, it is totally wrong.
modern spaniards are descendants of those who reconquest the land, and are mainly from northwest part of spain, as a result, genetic diversity in spain is low, while in italy and greece is high, because early genetic trait of spain has been removed due to reconquista, and modern spaniards are mainly of northwest iberian ancestry and northeast/aragon ancestry.
And early residents of canary islands, the guanches, have blue eyes, tall stature and blonde hair, it is said that guanches are descendants of cro-magnons. The guanches do not look like modern berbers because modern berbers have many bantu admixture, while guanches look like typical europeans.

and you sound like a Spanish sock larping as Italian

[MobyD]

bump

[MobyD]

He passes on the darker end so Wales a better fit but looks too cleancut in general

He looks American to me, ie North European with a Sicilian grandfather or something. This seems common in the US

You were right on the money...

Paul W. Downs

Place of Birth: New Jersey, U.S.

Date of Birth: November 21, 1982

Ethnicity: Irish, one quarter Italian, one eighth Belgian, some English

[alnortedelsur]

Since you are from Castlie and Leon, I think you may not find such people over there. But in other parts of Spain, as well as Portugal, people who look like that can be found in small proportions. Just check the map.

Source? The Lord of the Rings, the weed you smoke, and your ass.

[PaganPoet]

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The men of that era had a touch of effeminate appearance.

This is something that is now being done in a contrived way to bring about population change in Europe. It is promoted that men paint their nails, wear skirts, in short, become effeminate with the argument of equality, but they know perfectly well that in time they will not be attractive to women who will change them for men from other latitudes as has already happened naturally in the past.


At this time of day I allow myself these licenses. lol

Sounds alot like men in 18th century.