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Illyrius
06-19-2021, 12:05 PM
Are you ready to see how much of a wog i am!
If so then get yourself a cup of tea/soda or something because it's going to get a tad lengthy of a thread!

Anyways. Here are the result.
For the sake of time saving I won't be uploading any pie chart data, but rather I'll stick to written text results.

MDLP Project


MDLP K11 2xOracle and OracleX4

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Neolithic 44.53
2 EHG 24.30
3 WHG 14.69
4 Basal 12.42
5 Iran-Mesolithic 2.37
6 Oceanic 1.10




MDLP K16 2xOracle and OracleX4

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.90
2 Neolithic 32.21
3 Steppe 14.28
4 NorthEastEuropean 11.82
5 NorthAfrican 2.50




MDLP K23b Oracle Rev 2014 Sep 16

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 38.17
2 European_Early_Farmers 26.69
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 17.45
4 Near_East 6.15
5 North_African 4.13
6 South_Central_Asian 4.02
7 East_Siberian 1.07
8 Ancestral_Altaic 1.06




Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 39.41
2 North-East-European 22.44
3 West-Asian 22.29
4 Near_East




Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_and_West_European 46.40
2 Caucaus_Parsia 20.51
3 Middle_East 16.59
4 North_and_East_European 14.80




Eurogenes


K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 24.45
2 East_Med 23.87
3 West_Med 23.55
4 West_Asian 14.39
5 Baltic 9.23
6 Red_Sea 3.05
7 East_Asian 1.18




Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 20.23
2 West_Med 19.15
3 Atlantic 17.16
4 North_Sea 15.29
5 West_Asian 15.05
6 Baltic 8.26
7 Red_Sea 3.63




Population
ANE 9.81 %
ASE 1.56 %
WHG-UHG 40.56 %
East_Eurasia 0.5 %
West_African 0 %
East_African 0 %
ENF 47.57 %




Population
Southwest_Asian 14.75 %
Native_American 0 %
Northeast_Asian 0.18 %
Mediterranean 35.28 %
North_European 48.09 %
Southeast_Asian 1.69 %
Oceanian 0 %
South_African 0 %
Sub-Saharan_African 0 %




GED Match logo

Population
South Asian 0 %
Caucasus 26.29 %
Southwest Asian 8.29 %
North Amerindian + Arctic 0 %
Siberian 0 %
Mediterranean 36.33 %
East Asian 0.62 %
West African 0 %
North European 28.47 %





Population
South Asian 0 %
Caucasus 25.74 %
Southwest Asian 7.92 %
North Amerindian + Arctic 0 %
Siberian 0 %
Mediterranean 31.18 %
East Asian 0.53 %
West African 0%
East European 7.64 %
North Atlantic 26.99 %





Population
South Asian 0 %
Caucasus 25.52 %
Southwest Asian 7.84 %
North Amerindian + Arctic 0 %
Siberian 0 %
Mediterranean 30.72 %
East Asian 0.44 %
West African 0 %
Volga-Ural 2.46 %
South Baltic 7.66 %
North Atlantic 25.37 %





Population
South Asian 0 %
Caucasus 25.07 %
Southwest Asian 7.78 0%
North Amerindian + Arctic 0 %
Siberian 0 %
Mediterranean 29.18 %
East Asian 0.43 %
West African 0 %
Volga-Ural 1.39 %
South Baltic 6.59 %
Western European 16.8 %
North Sea 12.75 %





Population
Western European 22.15 %
Siberian 0 $
East African 0 %
West Central Asian 2.69 %
South Asian 0 %
West African 0 %
Caucasus 22.28 %
Finnish 0 %
Mediterranean 30.39 %
Southwest Asian 8.41 %
North European 12.83 %
East Asian 1.25 %





Population
Amerindian 0%
Arabian 0 %
Armenian 1.51 %
Basque 0.81 %
Central_African 0 %
Central_Euro 4.67 %
East_African 0 %
East_Asian 0 %
East_Balkan 12.61 %
East_Central_Asian 0%
East_Central_Euro 0.58 %
East_Med 14.62 %
Eastern_Euro 0 %
Fennoscandian 0 %
French 2.13 %
Iberian 3.97 %
Indo-Chinese 0 %
Italian 27.2 %
Malayan 0%
Near_Eastern 4.26 %
North_African 0%
North_Atlantic 3.82 %
North_Caucasian 8.66 %
North_Sea 5.34 %
Northeast_African 0 %
Oceanian 0 %
Omotic 0 %
Pygmy 0 %
Siberian 0 %
South_Asian 0 %
South_Central_Asian 0 %
South_Chinese 0 %
Volga-Ural 0 %
West_African 0 %
West_Caucasian 2.44 %
West_Med 7.37 %




GED Match
Population
Anatolian Farmer 26.46 %
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 22.36 %
Middle Eastern Herder 10.06 %
East Asian Farmer 0.64 %
South American Hunter Gatherer 0 %
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0 %
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0 %
East African Pastoralist 0 %
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.47 %
Mediterranean Farmer 40 %
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0 %
Bantu Farmer 0 %





Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 24.27
2 WEST_MED 19.38
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 15.29
4 ATLANTIC 12.29
5 WEST_ASIAN 11.29
6 ASHKENAZI 8.67
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 7.26





Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 26.55
2 WEST_MED 20.38
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 15.81
4 ATLANTIC 13.54
5 WEST_ASIAN 12.48
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 7.34
7 MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.58



Dodecad



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 38.44
2 West_European 23.53
3 West_Asian 22.19
4 East_European 6.96
5 Southwest_Asian 6.15
6 Northwest_African 2.24





Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Europe 59.19
2 SW_Asia 33.80
3 NW_Africa 6.99





Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 45.07
2 Southern 31.77
3 Caucasus_Gedrosia 22.40





Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 44.38
2 Southern 31.97
3 West_Asian 23.09





Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 32.12
2 Atlantic_Med 32.06
3 North_European 19.68
4 Southwest_Asian 7.84
5 Gedrosia 5.92
6 Northwest_African 1.53




HarappaWorld


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 30.52
2 Mediterranean 29.89
3 NE-Euro 22.18
4 SW-Asian 8.67
5 Baloch 7.44




PuntDNAL



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 ENF 43.38
2 CHG 27.40
3 WHG 27.01
4 Siberian 1.45






Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Anatolian_NF 42.21
2 Caucasus_HG 27.26
3 European_HG 21.10
4 Near_East 8.37





Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Anatolian_NF 42.21
2 Caucasus_HG 27.26
3 European_HG 21.10
4 Near_East 8.37





Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SW_Europe 43.74
2 West_Asia 20.82
3 NE_Europe 20.73
4 SW_Asia 11.25
5 SE_Asia 1.91





Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 41.03
2 NE_European 27.63
3 Caucasian 21.98
4 SW_Asian 8.01





Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Western_Semitic 93.06
2 Omotic 3.75
3 Nilo_Saharan 1.62




Gedrosia



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 97.40
2 E_Eurasian 2.60





Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 37.46
2 CAUCASUS 23.73
3 SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 17.95
4 SW_ASIAN 12.50
5 BALOCHI 7.85





Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Natufian 47.48
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 30.39
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 19.38
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 2.15





Turkic K11





Population

Southeast European
46.70%
West Asian
21.69%
Southeast Asian
0.00%
Sub-Saharan African
0.00%
Northeast European
20.07%
Indian
1.22%
Northwest European
9.40%
Turkic
0.42%
Mongol
0.00%
Papuan
0.49%
Northeast Asian
0.00%




And pretty much that all sums it up.
I hope you take some time to read through this I'd really appreciate it!
vbnetkhio
06-19-2021, 01:11 PM
1 North_Atlantic 24.45
2 East_Med 23.87
3 West_Med 23.55
4 West_Asian 14.39
5 Baltic 9.23
6 Red_Sea 3.05
7 East_Asian 1.18


https://media1.tenor.com/images/379d21ef67b61420b2841418e16940e3/tenor.gif
Illyrius
06-19-2021, 01:34 PM
https://media1.tenor.com/images/379d21ef67b61420b2841418e16940e3/tenor.gif

What's so surprising about the Baltic part?
gixajo
06-19-2021, 01:46 PM
With your K36 results:

https://i.imgur.com/siIqikX.png

https://i.imgur.com/tZLDGfi.png

https://i.imgur.com/Da5w4Pq.png
Illyrius
06-19-2021, 01:49 PM
With your K36 results:

https://i.imgur.com/siIqikX.png

https://i.imgur.com/tZLDGfi.png

https://i.imgur.com/Da5w4Pq.png

So I'm assuming those locations marked by the red squares are the closest ones to me?
gixajo
06-19-2021, 01:49 PM
Double.
Illyrius
06-19-2021, 01:54 PM
With your K36 results:

https://i.imgur.com/siIqikX.png

https://i.imgur.com/tZLDGfi.png

https://i.imgur.com/Da5w4Pq.png

So I'm too mixed
Ion Basescul
06-19-2021, 02:06 PM
What's so surprising about the Baltic part?

It's twice less than the Albanian average, so either there's a foreign element in your ancestry or those averages are trash
gixajo
06-19-2021, 02:07 PM
So I'm too mixed

Nah, I would say you are pretty Albanian, not more mixed than anyone from any other country.

Your maximum similarity rate is right in Albania.

You are a normal Albanian, it is normal that there is genetic similarity in nearby areas.

For example, this is an Italian guy:

https://i.imgur.com/kr84Uvb.png

Or 3 different Spaniards:

https://i.imgur.com/qzqtCVK.png
https://i.imgur.com/qKXWr0A.png
https://i.imgur.com/uiRq4wc.png
Illyrius
06-19-2021, 02:15 PM
It's twice less than the Albanian average, so either there's a foreign element in your ancestry or those averages are trash

Whatever
gixajo
06-19-2021, 02:17 PM
It's twice less than the Albanian average, so either there's a foreign element in your ancestry or those averages are trash

Or both things, or neither.
Illyrius
06-19-2021, 02:20 PM
Nah, I would say you are pretty Albanian, not more mixed than anyone from any other country.

Your maximum similarity rate is right in Albania.

You are a normal Albanian, it is normal that there is genetic similarity in nearby areas.

For example, this is an Italian guy:

https://i.imgur.com/kr84Uvb.png

Or 3 different Spaniards:

https://i.imgur.com/qzqtCVK.png
https://i.imgur.com/qKXWr0A.png
https://i.imgur.com/uiRq4wc.png

Nice nice!
Hey
What about the Western Asian component?
Is that neolithic ancestry?
gixajo
06-19-2021, 02:21 PM
Whatever

Can you post your k13 and k15 results, but from the table that appears with the diagram of sectors, and not the results that come to you with oracle, as you did in your post?

In the results you posted, apart from the fact that the components are ordered by percentages from highest to lowest, minority percentages are eliminated.
gixajo
06-19-2021, 02:25 PM
Nice nice!
Hey
What about the Western Asian component?
Is that neolithic ancestry?

It could be ancient, or it could be a "modern" contribution, it is difficult to differentiate one from the other.

Possibly there are modern and ancient contributions at the same time, but I don't know in what proportion.

All of this is better if you ask a member of the forum who knows the genetics of Southeastern Europe better than I do.
Illyrius
06-19-2021, 02:27 PM
Can you post your k13 and k15 results, but from the table that appears with the diagram of sectors, and not the results that come to you with oracle, as you did in your post?

In the results you posted, apart from the fact that the components are ordered by percentages from highest to lowest, minority percentages are eliminated.

I will right now.
Do you also want the pie chart?
Illyrius
06-19-2021, 02:31 PM
Can you post your k13 and k15 results, but from the table that appears with the diagram of sectors, and not the results that come to you with oracle, as you did in your post?

In the results you posted, apart from the fact that the components are ordered by percentages from highest to lowest, minority percentages are eliminated.

I will right now.
Do you also want the pie chart?
gixajo
06-19-2021, 02:33 PM
I will right now.
Do you also want the pie chart?

Nope, just results as are in the table.

Itīs just to do your K13 and k15 coordinates to use them in vahaduo for Gedmatch.

You can do it yourself if you know already how to do them.
Illyrius
06-19-2021, 02:36 PM
Nevermind
gixajo
06-19-2021, 02:48 PM
Nevermind

Ok, as you want, but those coordinates are useful to get many "ethnic estimations", and to compare yourself with other users, including Albanian ones.

Do it yourself, itīs easy.
Illyrius
06-19-2021, 03:01 PM
Ok, as you want, but those coordinates are useful to get many "ethnic estimations", and to compare yourself with other users, including Albanian ones.

Do it yourself, itīs easy.

I will maybe later.
But my R1b u152 haplogroup perfectly matches with my Italian affinity.

Hey by the way. How and where can i further sequence my y DNA. I have downloaded the positive list of Y SNPs fom Living DNA but i do not know where to upload the csv file.
Morley DNA and Cladefinder by yseq do not accept my data.
vbnetkhio
06-19-2021, 04:59 PM
It's twice less than the Albanian average, so either there's a foreign element in your ancestry or those averages are trash

The averages can hardly be trash, here are the samples used for them:



Albanian_Gheg_Apricity1,25.02,17.76,21.65,9.75,21. 72,2.22,0.86,0.20,0.40,0.05,0.37,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Apricity2,23.41,16.49,20.85,11.75,24 .49,1.70,0.00,0.01,0.59,0.71,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Apricity3,25.27,16.00,21.70,11.02,22 .46,2.40,0.86,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.28,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Apricity4,19.43,16.81,27.15,10.55,24 .54,1.52,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Apricity5,21.76,19.40,22.31,12.35,20 .66,1.39,0.00,0.04,1.70,0.11,0.26,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_CentralAlbania1,20.65,12.52,25.21,13 .41,24.49,3.11,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.46,0.14,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_CentralAlbania2,20.65,12.52,25.21,13 .41,24.49,3.11,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.46,0.14,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_CentralAlbania3,25.78,12.80,23.79,10 .42,24.61,1.65,0.00,0.00,0.95,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_CentralAlbania4,17.33,13.52,26.32,14 .72,22.34,3.14,0.00,0.00,1.17,0.00,0.93,0.53,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_CentralAlbania5,15.43,14.60,25.14,11 .70,25.76,4.39,0.00,0.00,0.57,0.29,1.02,1.10,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_CentralAlbania6,17.20,17.22,21.41,14 .09,27.09,1.85,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.66,0.47,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_CentralAlbania7,19.90,21.22,20.15,12 .29,23.13,1.66,0.97,0.00,0.00,0.24,0.14,0.00,0.30
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo1,22.70,15.49,23.23,12.64,21.9 8,1.56,0.46,0.79,0.37,0.00,0.79,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo10,27.83,12.97,23.48,12.67,20. 00,1.12,0.36,0.30,0.96,0.00,0.32,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo11,22.92,17.70,20.56,12.06,22. 76,3.05,0.00,0.81,0.00,0.00,0.14,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo12,22.13,20.19,22.20,11.86,23. 11,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.51,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo13,20.24,20.99,20.51,11.93,20. 31,3.07,1.99,0.63,0.00,0.22,0.11,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo14,22.53,19.27,19.89,11.42,21. 73,3.56,0.31,0.62,0.52,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.14
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo15,21.18,15.53,20.44,17.30,22. 17,1.89,0.00,0.68,0.00,0.55,0.26,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo16,21.41,19.63,17.87,12.08,22. 55,4.43,0.80,0.00,0.00,0.83,0.41,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo17,22.91,17.60,20.77,13.78,23. 01,0.84,0.23,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.86,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo18,21.25,17.70,21.22,11.86,22. 34,4.24,0.00,0.25,0.16,0.48,0.33,0.18,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo2,24.55,15.85,24.11,11.00,21.7 2,0.98,1.26,0.00,0.18,0.00,0.37,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo3,25.19,20.96,19.39,7.48,23.69 ,1.23,0.00,0.14,0.29,0.17,1.31,0.00,0.14
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo4,25.44,23.59,20.18,7.81,19.37 ,2.16,0.30,0.61,0.00,0.00,0.55,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo5,23.80,14.73,23.96,11.44,17.8 3,5.72,0.00,2.52,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo6,24.86,16.50,20.57,10.38,21.6 3,6.06,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo7,20.88,18.88,25.61,11.45,20.9 7,2.21,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo8,21.69,21.29,20.94,10.30,24.6 9,1.08,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo9,25.80,23.92,20.47,7.95,19.66 ,2.20,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Macedonia1,22.03,14.31,21.52,8.08,23 .94,3.81,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.05,0.00,5.26,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Macedonia2,21.14,17.32,21.03,8.47,27 .64,3.26,0.00,0.00,1.15,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Macedonia3,22.47,17.82,19.88,10.39,2 6.02,3.02,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.33,0.07,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Macedonia4,19.41,18.85,21.05,13.51,2 2.77,2.17,0.00,2.25,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Macedonia5,20.52,19.60,20.95,10.28,2 2.85,4.57,0.00,0.00,0.13,0.00,1.10,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Macedonia6,23.84,21.78,22.43,6.84,22 .67,2.45,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Montenegro1,24.28,17.71,20.89,11.46, 22.68,1.97,0.00,0.21,0.48,0.32,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Montenegro10,24.75,22.83,19.69,9.78, 19.76,2.03,0.00,0.00,1.16,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Montenegro2,27.17,18.54,17.73,10.12, 20.64,4.82,0.00,0.67,0.00,0.00,0.32,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Montenegro3,23.54,19.13,19.61,10.54, 23.92,2.03,0.00,0.20,0.53,0.51,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Montenegro4,22.43,19.99,19.79,11.25, 24.09,0.83,0.00,0.00,0.55,0.67,0.39,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Montenegro5,24.16,20.53,21.64,10.96, 19.45,0.97,0.93,0.00,0.60,0.23,0.07,0.47,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Montenegro6,26.38,20.56,18.98,8.25,2 0.75,3.57,0.00,0.22,0.00,0.61,0.00,0.67,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Montenegro7,24.45,22.57,19.49,9.71,1 9.54,2.03,0.00,0.00,1.16,0.00,0.98,0.06,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Montenegro8,17.83,24.37,20.58,13.32, 20.30,2.68,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.58,0.35,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Montenegro9,23.85,21.53,21.96,11.65, 19.60,1.42,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_NorthAlbania1,21.15,12.81,24.97,10.7 1,26.46,3.07,0.00,0.18,0.51,0.15,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_NorthAlbania10,20.40,21.88,21.71,10. 04,22.20,1.89,0.39,0.16,0.00,0.80,0.53,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_NorthAlbania11,23.03,22.83,19.79,10. 92,20.52,2.51,0.00,0.24,0.05,0.00,0.12,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_NorthAlbania2,18.86,15.54,23.14,10.6 6,27.88,2.17,0.00,0.98,0.00,0.77,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_NorthAlbania3,24.49,15.86,20.87,13.5 2,21.13,4.14,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_NorthAlbania4,25.30,16.04,21.69,11.0 0,22.46,2.39,0.85,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.27,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_NorthAlbania5,21.99,16.90,25.07,8.82 ,24.92,2.30,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_NorthAlbania6,17.71,16.90,25.67,10.1 9,26.91,1.60,0.00,0.00,0.22,0.62,0.06,0.13,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_NorthAlbania7,23.58,19.61,19.65,10.8 2,22.65,2.45,0.00,0.00,0.72,0.53,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_NorthAlbania8,18.42,20.67,24.48,8.45 ,24.43,3.55,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_NorthAlbania9,23.63,21.26,21.46,7.47 ,22.26,3.93,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Tirana1,18.75,15.18,23.37,13.04,27.1 1,1.98,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.20,0.37,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Tirana10,18.23,16.29,25.35,12.51,23. 57,3.41,0.00,0.10,0.45,0.00,0.08,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Tirana2,21.95,11.61,22.18,11.15,27.4 6,4.91,0.00,0.33,0.41,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Tirana3,17.86,18.15,22.58,14.84,23.7 1,1.79,0.00,0.25,0.00,0.40,0.00,0.42,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Tirana4,13.32,25.79,18.12,13.21,23.9 4,3.37,0.00,0.00,0.71,0.00,1.11,0.00,0.43
Albanian_Gheg_Tirana5,20.07,18.28,21.26,14.55,20.6 2,3.21,0.00,1.62,0.00,0.00,0.39,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Tirana6,18.35,16.26,25.31,12.31,23.7 7,3.30,0.00,0.00,0.60,0.00,0.10,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Tirana7,19.30,18.77,21.78,11.85,21.6 8,4.00,1.54,0.69,0.00,0.00,0.28,0.00,0.10
Albanian_Gheg_Tirana8,20.70,15.42,21.72,12.66,26.9 7,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.49,1.57,0.47
Albanian_Gheg_Tirana9,21.64,18.70,20.97,8.22,24.30 ,3.84,0.68,0.56,0.44,0.00,0.64,0.00,0.00

Albanian_Tosk_SouthAlbania1,19.47,14.28,25.06,10.5 5,27.91,1.50,0.00,0.00,1.23,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk_SouthAlbania10,21.06,19.15,19.92,13. 96,21.98,2.96,0.00,0.10,0.00,0.76,0.12,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk_SouthAlbania11,19.62,19.40,21.39,10. 36,25.31,2.53,0.00,0.36,0.00,1.03,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk_SouthAlbania12,19.62,19.40,21.39,10. 36,25.31,2.53,0.00,0.36,0.00,1.03,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk_SouthAlbania13,22.39,19.96,19.00,14. 94,22.10,1.61,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk_SouthAlbania2,20.21,14.59,26.21,11.7 2,24.09,2.00,0.00,0.00,0.49,0.00,0.70,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk_SouthAlbania3,21.54,14.85,19.70,8.52 ,28.35,3.71,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.63,1.68
Albanian_Tosk_SouthAlbania4,20.38,15.36,22.76,9.31 ,27.67,3.38,0.00,0.00,1.13,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk_SouthAlbania5,20.80,15.38,20.51,12.4 8,26.06,2.41,0.00,0.00,1.04,0.72,0.60,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk_SouthAlbania6,21.06,16.69,20.94,8.45 ,27.02,3.13,1.67,0.00,0.00,1.03,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk_SouthAlbania7,24.27,18.23,19.63,9.62 ,25.96,2.30,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk_SouthAlbania8,22.82,18.91,17.60,10.6 2,25.16,2.28,0.00,1.02,0.00,0.91,0.25,0.00,0.42
Albanian_Tosk_SouthAlbania9,22.82,18.91,17.60,10.6 2,25.16,2.28,0.00,1.02,0.00,0.91,0.25,0.00,0.42
Albanian_Tosk1,22.20,13.18,25.06,11.98,25.27,0.28, 0.00,0.00,0.92,1.04,0.07,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk2,19.53,13.57,22.06,12.83,26.77,3.84, 0.16,0.99,0.00,0.26,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk3,23.18,13.72,22.60,10.27,26.26,2.70, 0.00,0.95,0.00,0.31,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk4,21.23,14.66,19.44,8.38,27.92,3.67,0 .00,0.95,0.12,0.00,0.37,1.60,1.67
Albanian_Tosk5,18.48,15.31,24.53,8.43,28.12,3.71,0 .00,0.83,0.00,0.59,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk6,25.91,15.50,20.50,13.66,21.02,2.20, 0.00,0.00,0.56,0.65,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk7,19.84,16.61,23.38,11.56,25.22,1.90, 0.00,0.22,0.63,0.00,0.41,0.00,0.23

Albanian1,22.97,18.22,19.36,8.35,25.00,3.81,0.00,1 .17,0.27,0.00,0.84,0.00,0.00
Albanian2,17.72,16.70,27.14,11.55,26.18,0.71,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian3,24.43,15.82,20.82,13.49,21.08,4.13,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.23,0.00,0.00
Albanian4,20.43,16.13,22.36,11.89,24.22,3.81,0.00, 0.00,0.00,1.10,0.06,0.00,0.00
Albanian5,25.29,19.03,20.43,8.47,22.53,3.30,0.00,0 .95,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian6,23.23,13.47,21.25,11.95,26.13,2.61,0.00, 0.19,0.00,0.74,0.44,0.00,0.00
Albanian7,18.38,20.62,24.43,8.43,24.38,3.54,0.00,0 .09,0.00,0.00,0.15,0.00,0.00
Albanian8,16.11,20.62,24.52,8.05,28.24,2.47,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian9,20.63,16.41,23.38,10.19,27.60,1.21,0.00, 0.18,0.16,0.00,0.23,0.00,0.00


If it's foreign admixture it could be only Italian, but I think he has very rare Albanian results specific to his part of Albania.
vbnetkhio
06-19-2021, 05:04 PM
I will maybe later.
But my R1b u152 haplogroup perfectly matches with my Italian affinity.

Hey by the way. How and where can i further sequence my y DNA. I have downloaded the positive list of Y SNPs fom Living DNA but i do not know where to upload the csv file.
Morley DNA and Cladefinder by yseq do not accept my data.

In which format is this file? how does the first line look like if you open it in notepad?
Ylla
06-19-2021, 05:45 PM
Congrats could you post the oracle? :)
Illyrius
06-19-2021, 05:56 PM
The averages can hardly be trash, here are the samples used for them:



Albanian_Gheg_Apricity1,25.02,17.76,21.65,9.75,21. 72,2.22,0.86,0.20,0.40,0.05,0.37,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Apricity2,23.41,16.49,20.85,11.75,24 .49,1.70,0.00,0.01,0.59,0.71,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Apricity3,25.27,16.00,21.70,11.02,22 .46,2.40,0.86,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.28,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Apricity4,19.43,16.81,27.15,10.55,24 .54,1.52,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Apricity5,21.76,19.40,22.31,12.35,20 .66,1.39,0.00,0.04,1.70,0.11,0.26,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_CentralAlbania1,20.65,12.52,25.21,13 .41,24.49,3.11,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.46,0.14,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_CentralAlbania2,20.65,12.52,25.21,13 .41,24.49,3.11,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.46,0.14,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_CentralAlbania3,25.78,12.80,23.79,10 .42,24.61,1.65,0.00,0.00,0.95,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_CentralAlbania4,17.33,13.52,26.32,14 .72,22.34,3.14,0.00,0.00,1.17,0.00,0.93,0.53,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_CentralAlbania5,15.43,14.60,25.14,11 .70,25.76,4.39,0.00,0.00,0.57,0.29,1.02,1.10,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_CentralAlbania6,17.20,17.22,21.41,14 .09,27.09,1.85,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.66,0.47,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_CentralAlbania7,19.90,21.22,20.15,12 .29,23.13,1.66,0.97,0.00,0.00,0.24,0.14,0.00,0.30
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo1,22.70,15.49,23.23,12.64,21.9 8,1.56,0.46,0.79,0.37,0.00,0.79,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo10,27.83,12.97,23.48,12.67,20. 00,1.12,0.36,0.30,0.96,0.00,0.32,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo11,22.92,17.70,20.56,12.06,22. 76,3.05,0.00,0.81,0.00,0.00,0.14,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo12,22.13,20.19,22.20,11.86,23. 11,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.51,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo13,20.24,20.99,20.51,11.93,20. 31,3.07,1.99,0.63,0.00,0.22,0.11,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo14,22.53,19.27,19.89,11.42,21. 73,3.56,0.31,0.62,0.52,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.14
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo15,21.18,15.53,20.44,17.30,22. 17,1.89,0.00,0.68,0.00,0.55,0.26,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo16,21.41,19.63,17.87,12.08,22. 55,4.43,0.80,0.00,0.00,0.83,0.41,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo17,22.91,17.60,20.77,13.78,23. 01,0.84,0.23,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.86,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo18,21.25,17.70,21.22,11.86,22. 34,4.24,0.00,0.25,0.16,0.48,0.33,0.18,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo2,24.55,15.85,24.11,11.00,21.7 2,0.98,1.26,0.00,0.18,0.00,0.37,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo3,25.19,20.96,19.39,7.48,23.69 ,1.23,0.00,0.14,0.29,0.17,1.31,0.00,0.14
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo4,25.44,23.59,20.18,7.81,19.37 ,2.16,0.30,0.61,0.00,0.00,0.55,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo5,23.80,14.73,23.96,11.44,17.8 3,5.72,0.00,2.52,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo6,24.86,16.50,20.57,10.38,21.6 3,6.06,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo7,20.88,18.88,25.61,11.45,20.9 7,2.21,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo8,21.69,21.29,20.94,10.30,24.6 9,1.08,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Kosovo9,25.80,23.92,20.47,7.95,19.66 ,2.20,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Macedonia1,22.03,14.31,21.52,8.08,23 .94,3.81,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.05,0.00,5.26,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Macedonia2,21.14,17.32,21.03,8.47,27 .64,3.26,0.00,0.00,1.15,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Macedonia3,22.47,17.82,19.88,10.39,2 6.02,3.02,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.33,0.07,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Macedonia4,19.41,18.85,21.05,13.51,2 2.77,2.17,0.00,2.25,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Macedonia5,20.52,19.60,20.95,10.28,2 2.85,4.57,0.00,0.00,0.13,0.00,1.10,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Macedonia6,23.84,21.78,22.43,6.84,22 .67,2.45,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Montenegro1,24.28,17.71,20.89,11.46, 22.68,1.97,0.00,0.21,0.48,0.32,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Montenegro10,24.75,22.83,19.69,9.78, 19.76,2.03,0.00,0.00,1.16,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Montenegro2,27.17,18.54,17.73,10.12, 20.64,4.82,0.00,0.67,0.00,0.00,0.32,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Montenegro3,23.54,19.13,19.61,10.54, 23.92,2.03,0.00,0.20,0.53,0.51,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Montenegro4,22.43,19.99,19.79,11.25, 24.09,0.83,0.00,0.00,0.55,0.67,0.39,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Montenegro5,24.16,20.53,21.64,10.96, 19.45,0.97,0.93,0.00,0.60,0.23,0.07,0.47,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Montenegro6,26.38,20.56,18.98,8.25,2 0.75,3.57,0.00,0.22,0.00,0.61,0.00,0.67,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Montenegro7,24.45,22.57,19.49,9.71,1 9.54,2.03,0.00,0.00,1.16,0.00,0.98,0.06,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Montenegro8,17.83,24.37,20.58,13.32, 20.30,2.68,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.58,0.35,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Montenegro9,23.85,21.53,21.96,11.65, 19.60,1.42,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_NorthAlbania1,21.15,12.81,24.97,10.7 1,26.46,3.07,0.00,0.18,0.51,0.15,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_NorthAlbania10,20.40,21.88,21.71,10. 04,22.20,1.89,0.39,0.16,0.00,0.80,0.53,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_NorthAlbania11,23.03,22.83,19.79,10. 92,20.52,2.51,0.00,0.24,0.05,0.00,0.12,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_NorthAlbania2,18.86,15.54,23.14,10.6 6,27.88,2.17,0.00,0.98,0.00,0.77,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_NorthAlbania3,24.49,15.86,20.87,13.5 2,21.13,4.14,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_NorthAlbania4,25.30,16.04,21.69,11.0 0,22.46,2.39,0.85,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.27,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_NorthAlbania5,21.99,16.90,25.07,8.82 ,24.92,2.30,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_NorthAlbania6,17.71,16.90,25.67,10.1 9,26.91,1.60,0.00,0.00,0.22,0.62,0.06,0.13,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_NorthAlbania7,23.58,19.61,19.65,10.8 2,22.65,2.45,0.00,0.00,0.72,0.53,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_NorthAlbania8,18.42,20.67,24.48,8.45 ,24.43,3.55,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_NorthAlbania9,23.63,21.26,21.46,7.47 ,22.26,3.93,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Tirana1,18.75,15.18,23.37,13.04,27.1 1,1.98,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.20,0.37,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Tirana10,18.23,16.29,25.35,12.51,23. 57,3.41,0.00,0.10,0.45,0.00,0.08,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Tirana2,21.95,11.61,22.18,11.15,27.4 6,4.91,0.00,0.33,0.41,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Tirana3,17.86,18.15,22.58,14.84,23.7 1,1.79,0.00,0.25,0.00,0.40,0.00,0.42,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Tirana4,13.32,25.79,18.12,13.21,23.9 4,3.37,0.00,0.00,0.71,0.00,1.11,0.00,0.43
Albanian_Gheg_Tirana5,20.07,18.28,21.26,14.55,20.6 2,3.21,0.00,1.62,0.00,0.00,0.39,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Tirana6,18.35,16.26,25.31,12.31,23.7 7,3.30,0.00,0.00,0.60,0.00,0.10,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Gheg_Tirana7,19.30,18.77,21.78,11.85,21.6 8,4.00,1.54,0.69,0.00,0.00,0.28,0.00,0.10
Albanian_Gheg_Tirana8,20.70,15.42,21.72,12.66,26.9 7,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.49,1.57,0.47
Albanian_Gheg_Tirana9,21.64,18.70,20.97,8.22,24.30 ,3.84,0.68,0.56,0.44,0.00,0.64,0.00,0.00

Albanian_Tosk_SouthAlbania1,19.47,14.28,25.06,10.5 5,27.91,1.50,0.00,0.00,1.23,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk_SouthAlbania10,21.06,19.15,19.92,13. 96,21.98,2.96,0.00,0.10,0.00,0.76,0.12,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk_SouthAlbania11,19.62,19.40,21.39,10. 36,25.31,2.53,0.00,0.36,0.00,1.03,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk_SouthAlbania12,19.62,19.40,21.39,10. 36,25.31,2.53,0.00,0.36,0.00,1.03,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk_SouthAlbania13,22.39,19.96,19.00,14. 94,22.10,1.61,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk_SouthAlbania2,20.21,14.59,26.21,11.7 2,24.09,2.00,0.00,0.00,0.49,0.00,0.70,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk_SouthAlbania3,21.54,14.85,19.70,8.52 ,28.35,3.71,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.63,1.68
Albanian_Tosk_SouthAlbania4,20.38,15.36,22.76,9.31 ,27.67,3.38,0.00,0.00,1.13,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk_SouthAlbania5,20.80,15.38,20.51,12.4 8,26.06,2.41,0.00,0.00,1.04,0.72,0.60,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk_SouthAlbania6,21.06,16.69,20.94,8.45 ,27.02,3.13,1.67,0.00,0.00,1.03,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk_SouthAlbania7,24.27,18.23,19.63,9.62 ,25.96,2.30,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk_SouthAlbania8,22.82,18.91,17.60,10.6 2,25.16,2.28,0.00,1.02,0.00,0.91,0.25,0.00,0.42
Albanian_Tosk_SouthAlbania9,22.82,18.91,17.60,10.6 2,25.16,2.28,0.00,1.02,0.00,0.91,0.25,0.00,0.42
Albanian_Tosk1,22.20,13.18,25.06,11.98,25.27,0.28, 0.00,0.00,0.92,1.04,0.07,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk2,19.53,13.57,22.06,12.83,26.77,3.84, 0.16,0.99,0.00,0.26,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk3,23.18,13.72,22.60,10.27,26.26,2.70, 0.00,0.95,0.00,0.31,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk4,21.23,14.66,19.44,8.38,27.92,3.67,0 .00,0.95,0.12,0.00,0.37,1.60,1.67
Albanian_Tosk5,18.48,15.31,24.53,8.43,28.12,3.71,0 .00,0.83,0.00,0.59,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk6,25.91,15.50,20.50,13.66,21.02,2.20, 0.00,0.00,0.56,0.65,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian_Tosk7,19.84,16.61,23.38,11.56,25.22,1.90, 0.00,0.22,0.63,0.00,0.41,0.00,0.23

Albanian1,22.97,18.22,19.36,8.35,25.00,3.81,0.00,1 .17,0.27,0.00,0.84,0.00,0.00
Albanian2,17.72,16.70,27.14,11.55,26.18,0.71,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian3,24.43,15.82,20.82,13.49,21.08,4.13,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.23,0.00,0.00
Albanian4,20.43,16.13,22.36,11.89,24.22,3.81,0.00, 0.00,0.00,1.10,0.06,0.00,0.00
Albanian5,25.29,19.03,20.43,8.47,22.53,3.30,0.00,0 .95,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian6,23.23,13.47,21.25,11.95,26.13,2.61,0.00, 0.19,0.00,0.74,0.44,0.00,0.00
Albanian7,18.38,20.62,24.43,8.43,24.38,3.54,0.00,0 .09,0.00,0.00,0.15,0.00,0.00
Albanian8,16.11,20.62,24.52,8.05,28.24,2.47,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Albanian9,20.63,16.41,23.38,10.19,27.60,1.21,0.00, 0.18,0.16,0.00,0.23,0.00,0.00


If it's foreign admixture it could be only Italian, but I think he has very rare Albanian results specific to his part of Albania.

Yup pretty much. I score very closely to Tuscan people
Illyrius
06-19-2021, 05:58 PM
Congrats could you post the oracle? :)

I did!
Got the data from oracle v4

What are you're Ylla
Illyrius
06-19-2021, 06:01 PM
Congrats could you post the oracle? :)

I did!
Got the data from oracle v4

What are you're Ylla
Ion Basescul
06-19-2021, 06:38 PM
If it's foreign admixture it could be only Italian, but I think he has very rare Albanian results specific to his part of Albania.

He does look like what an Albanian from Italy could be. But I am very skeptical that Albanian communities who lived for hundreds of years in Italy would settle in Albania.
vbnetkhio
06-19-2021, 06:50 PM
He does look like what an Albanian from Italy could be. But I am very skeptical that Albanian communities who lived for hundreds of years in Italy would settle in Albania.

Some parts of Albania were under Venetian rule:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/Repubblica_di_Venezia.png

Illyrius is a catholic if i'm not mistaken, Catholic Albanians would more likely mix with Italians than the Muslim and Orthodox ones.
lacreme
06-19-2021, 07:27 PM
Very interesting results! Congrats!
On Eurogenes K13 updated you seem to be modeled best as a slightly Caucasus shifted central Italian



Distance to: Illyrius
1.45593060 92.80% Italian_Lazio + 7.20% Ossetian
1.56169789 7.60% Balkar + 92.40% Italian_Lazio
1.59151340 93.00% Italian_Lazio + 7.00% North_Ossetian
1.61632150 26.20% Greek_Caucasus + 73.80% Italian_Lombardy
1.61687884 7.20% Ingush + 92.80% Italian_Lazio


The same for distance too !


Distance to: Illyrius
3.62724910 Italian_Lazio
3.74053686 Italian_Marche
4.08653594 Italian_Umbria
5.01023712 Italian
5.17050249 Italian_Romagna
5.50408357 Greek_Western-Thrace
6.81974017 Italian_Tuscan
7.13572253 Italian_Abruzzo
7.50321638 Italian_Basilicata
7.69588565 Italian_Molise
8.21552287 Greek_West_Macedonia
8.26681414 Italian_Apulia
8.32334044 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
8.83411546 Greek_Athens
8.90617067 Greek_Cyclades
8.93801186 Italian_Emilia
9.03368341 Albanian_Tosk
9.22248752 Greek_Northeast
9.24412332 Greek_Central
9.31845674 Italian_Sicily
9.39163330 French_Corsica
9.46404332 Greek
9.53534352 Greek_Andros_Island
9.56281240 Greek_Thessaly
9.58329881 Albanian




Target: Illyrius
Distance: 1.0432% / 1.04321933 | ADC: 0.25x RC
80.4 Italian_Lazio
8.4 Greek_Western-Thrace
7.8 Ossetian
3.0 French_Basque
0.4 Dai
Ylla
06-19-2021, 07:39 PM
I did!
Got the data from oracle v4

What are you're Ylla

I have double Baltic closer to the average, but less NA and WA. You seem really close to central italians.
Illyrius
06-19-2021, 07:46 PM
Very interesting results! Congrats!
On Eurogenes K13 updated you seem to be modeled best as a slightly Caucasus shifted central Italian



Distance to: Illyrius
1.45593060 92.80% Italian_Lazio + 7.20% Ossetian
1.56169789 7.60% Balkar + 92.40% Italian_Lazio
1.59151340 93.00% Italian_Lazio + 7.00% North_Ossetian
1.61632150 26.20% Greek_Caucasus + 73.80% Italian_Lombardy
1.61687884 7.20% Ingush + 92.80% Italian_Lazio


The same for distance too !


Distance to: Illyrius
3.62724910 Italian_Lazio
3.74053686 Italian_Marche
4.08653594 Italian_Umbria
5.01023712 Italian
5.17050249 Italian_Romagna
5.50408357 Greek_Western-Thrace
6.81974017 Italian_Tuscan
7.13572253 Italian_Abruzzo
7.50321638 Italian_Basilicata
7.69588565 Italian_Molise
8.21552287 Greek_West_Macedonia
8.26681414 Italian_Apulia
8.32334044 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
8.83411546 Greek_Athens
8.90617067 Greek_Cyclades
8.93801186 Italian_Emilia
9.03368341 Albanian_Tosk
9.22248752 Greek_Northeast
9.24412332 Greek_Central
9.31845674 Italian_Sicily
9.39163330 French_Corsica
9.46404332 Greek
9.53534352 Greek_Andros_Island
9.56281240 Greek_Thessaly
9.58329881 Albanian




Target: Illyrius
Distance: 1.0432% / 1.04321933 | ADC: 0.25x RC
80.4 Italian_Lazio
8.4 Greek_Western-Thrace
7.8 Ossetian
3.0 French_Basque
0.4 Dai


Do i have any Turkish admixture
Ion Basescul
06-19-2021, 07:49 PM
Some parts of Albania were under Venetian rule:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/Repubblica_di_Venezia.png

Illyrius is a catholic if i'm not mistaken, Catholic Albanians would more likely mix with Italians than the Muslim and Orthodox ones.

That's too distant. It literally takes one person with his results and another person with average Albanian results and the offspring will cluster among those Albanians that you've quoted. Expecting this admixture to have survived since 1600-1700s seems unrealistic to me.
Illyrius
06-19-2021, 07:59 PM
That's too distant. It literally takes one person with his results and another person with average Albanian results and the offspring will cluster among those Albanians that you've quoted. Expecting this admixture to have survived since 1600-1700s seems unrealistic to me.

Yeah
However.
Even My true Ancestry confirms I'm more Roman than illyrian
Hulu
06-19-2021, 08:09 PM
For K13 it seems your Baltic went into North Atlantic. That may have to do with data quality or they have a better algorithm. It makes more sense for us to have North Atlantic than Baltic. The rest is the usual.

Mine - 23andme
North_Atlantic 15.43 Pct
Baltic 14.6 Pc


Brother - FTDNA
North_Atlantic 17.33 Pct
Baltic 13.52 Pc
vbnetkhio
06-19-2021, 08:10 PM
Yeah
However.
Even My true Ancestry confirms I'm more Roman than illyrian

do you get any close Greek or Italian relatives on LivingDna or gedmatch?
MechtoidAfalouHG
06-19-2021, 08:13 PM
How does it feel to be a wog compared to a E-V13 individual such as myself but you carry R from the steppe. Life is weird huh
Hulu
06-19-2021, 08:15 PM
Yeah
However.
Even My true Ancestry confirms I'm more Roman than illyrian

It doesn't mean you're Italian. Myancestry makes me Roman too but all my closest matches are Albanian in 23andme and Gedmatch
vbnetkhio
06-19-2021, 08:17 PM
That's too distant. It literally takes one person with his results and another person with average Albanian results and the offspring will cluster among those Albanians that you've quoted. Expecting this admixture to have survived since 1600-1700s seems unrealistic to me.

maybe there's a whole cluster of villages where everbody has 10-20% italian ancestry on average, so it got preserved. That seems to be the case with the Istria region in Croatia.
Illyrius
06-19-2021, 08:32 PM
do you get any close Greek or Italian relatives on LivingDna or gedmatch?

Not really but I'll show you my GEDMatch matches
Illyrius
06-19-2021, 08:40 PM
Nevermind the list is too long :P
vbnetkhio
06-19-2021, 08:46 PM
Nevermind the list is too long :P

ok. i'm just suggesting that you look into your close matches (5 generations or closer/ 10 or more CM) and check where they're from. you don't need to share their identity with us.
Illyrius
06-19-2021, 11:31 PM
ok. i'm just suggesting that you look into your close matches (5 generations or closer/ 10 or more CM) and check where they're from. you don't need to share their identity with us.

I sure will!
vbnetkhio
06-20-2021, 08:55 AM
I sure will!

are you from a region which had a lot of contact with Greeks or Italians in the last 200-300 years?
Leto
06-20-2021, 08:57 AM
You made a grave mistake by cutting off all the percentage points below 1%.
It should go like this (unsorted):

North_Atlantic -
Baltic -
West_Med -
West_Asian -
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Illyrius
06-20-2021, 10:04 AM
You made a grave mistake by cutting off all the percentage points below 1%.
It should go like this (unsorted):

North_Atlantic -
Baltic -
West_Med -
West_Asian -
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Why what do they represent
J. Ketch
06-20-2021, 10:31 AM
Why what do they represent
They represent not being devious.
Leto
06-20-2021, 11:00 AM
Why what do they represent
Each of your results is supposed to add up to 100%. Since you cut off those minor values below 1%, they do not. I strongly recommend you edit the OP by adding everything that is missing.
Leto
06-20-2021, 11:05 AM
They represent not being devious.
I don't understand that kind of people. They would load the oracle but at the same time they would also leave out everything below 1 percent.
gixajo
06-20-2021, 11:06 AM
I don't understand that kind of people. They would load the oracle but at the same time they would also leave out everything below 1 percent.

Iīve told him 3 times in different threads...
lacreme
06-22-2021, 11:27 AM
Now that you have posted even your mytrueancestry results..
Can you update at least your Eurogenes and Dodecad calc results with your complete values, including the less than 1% ones ?
Cheers
Illyrius
06-22-2021, 01:58 PM
Now that you have posted even your mytrueancestry results..
Can you update at least your Eurogenes and Dodecad calc results with your complete values, including the less than 1% ones ?
Cheers

Sure.
Here's the Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15

Population
North_Sea 15.29 Pct
Atlantic 17.16 Pct
Baltic 8.26 Pct
Eastern_Euro 0.14 Pct
West_Med 19.15 Pct
West_Asian 15.05 Pct
East_Med 20.23 Pct
Red_Sea 3.63 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 0.91 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.17 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -





And here come the Dodecad resluts
Dodecad V3




Population
East_European 6.96 Pct
West_European 23.53 Pct
Mediterranean 38.44 Pct
Neo_African -
West_Asian 22.19 Pct
South_Asian -
Northeast_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 0.48 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 6.15 Pct
Northwest_African 2.24 Pct
Palaeo_African -
Leto
06-22-2021, 02:06 PM
Eurogenes K13 and Dodecad K12b are much more popular than the two runs above.
Illyrius
06-22-2021, 03:49 PM
Eurogenes K13 and Dodecad K12b are much more popular than the two runs above.

Ok