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mentalanesthesia
06-26-2021, 06:29 PM
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06-26-2021, 07:38 PM
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Pietro97
06-26-2021, 08:04 PM
can be sicilian

placebo
06-26-2021, 10:04 PM
alpine, anatolid, med, turanid.

Avicenna
06-26-2021, 11:44 PM
I can see the Turkic in them massively . East black sea region has one of the lowest amounts of Turkic influence though right?

mentalanesthesia
06-26-2021, 11:55 PM
I can see the Turkic in them massively . East black sea region has one of the lowest amounts of Turkic influence though right?
Yes, east black sea has the lowest amount but the amount starts to lessen in Trabzon. Giresun (west of trabzon) has the highest amount in the region (%10-20). Its due to high concentration of Çepni Turkmen settlement in the area.

Avicenna
06-26-2021, 11:56 PM
Yes, east black sea has the lowest amount but the amount starts to lessen in Trabzon. Giresun (west of trabzon) has the highest amount in the region. (%10-20)

That is crazy . Shows in their phentoype which some people deny that Turks have no "Turkic " In them . True Turks :).

mentalanesthesia
06-26-2021, 11:58 PM
That is crazy . Shows in their phentoype which some people deny that Turks have no "Turkic " In them . True Turks :).

:) a common misinformation.

Super Mario
06-27-2021, 01:06 AM
Predominantly West Asians with Turanid/Mongoloid elements.

Zoro
06-27-2021, 01:25 AM
Honestly if i had seen them on the street somewhere Turkic would not be the first thing that would come to mind except for the guy on the right in the first pic. The rest i would have guessed generic SE European / W Asian. Not saying they don’t have Turkic genes just that they didn’t inherit a significant number of facial morphology Turkic genes.

Many kurds I’ve seen look more E Asian or Turkmen influenced than them by phenotype (except the guy on the right in the 1st pic). For example some of these kurds

https://i.imgur.com/Imu1OaT.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/KFDlhy3.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/8hoQn3q.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ELB4AWD.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/MGoCiwT.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PPxxWCU.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/5tSwSEy.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/iZBYmOq.jpg

Dr_Maul
06-27-2021, 01:46 AM
Look exactly how I imagine Giresun Turks, Armenian+Turkic

Sora
06-27-2021, 06:30 AM
Pure Oğuz survivers in Turkey! :amour101: #ChepniGang

Indeed my cousin has a friend from her uni in Giresun who looks extremely Kazakh/Kyrgyz/Siberian but her friends(including my cousin herself) call her Korean :/ indeed she a bit resembles Koreans(actually mostly Hapas)

David24
06-27-2021, 06:35 AM
They fit best as a whole in Uzbekistan. :thumb001:

David24
06-27-2021, 06:42 AM
Honestly if i had seen them on the street somewhere Turkic would not be the first thing that would come to mind except for the guy on the right in the first pic. The rest i would have guessed generic SE European / W Asian. Not saying they don’t have Turkic genes just that they didn’t inherit a significant number of facial morphology Turkic genes.

Many kurds I’ve seen look more E Asian or Turkmen influenced than them by phenotype (except the guy on the right in the 1st pic). For example some of these kurds

If I saw them IRL, I'd think they're Uzbek. If Kurds can look like them, then Kurds probably have Central Asian origins like Turks do. :thumb001:

mentalanesthesia
06-27-2021, 07:49 AM
Honestly if i had seen them on the street somewhere Turkic would not be the first thing that would come to mind except for the guy on the right in the first pic. The rest i would have guessed generic SE European / W Asian. Not saying they don’t have Turkic genes just that they didn’t inherit a significant number of facial morphology Turkic genes.

Many kurds I’ve seen look more E Asian or Turkmen influenced than them by phenotype (except the guy on the right in the 1st pic). For example some of these kurds

https://i.imgur.com/Imu1OaT.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/KFDlhy3.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/8hoQn3q.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ELB4AWD.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/MGoCiwT.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PPxxWCU.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/5tSwSEy.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/iZBYmOq.jpg

lol

mentalanesthesia
06-27-2021, 08:02 AM
Look exactly how I imagine Giresun Turks, Armenian+Turkic
Their native anatolian part is like Trabzon and Rize Greeks so your assesment is generally correct i think.

Demis
06-27-2021, 09:49 AM
Photos of old people are not suitable for classifications.

Neverthless, I see Dinaric, Pontic, East Med, Corded/Steppe Nordic, Cromagnid, Armenioid/Taurid, Atlantic Med and Alpinid elements.

Avicenna
06-27-2021, 10:02 AM
Honestly if i had seen them on the street somewhere Turkic would not be the first thing that would come to mind except for the guy on the right in the first pic. The rest i would have guessed generic SE European / W Asian. Not saying they don’t have Turkic genes just that they didn’t inherit a significant number of facial morphology Turkic genes.

Many kurds I’ve seen look more E Asian or Turkmen influenced than them by phenotype (except the guy on the right in the 1st pic). For example some of these kurds

https://i.imgur.com/Imu1OaT.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/KFDlhy3.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/8hoQn3q.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ELB4AWD.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/MGoCiwT.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PPxxWCU.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/5tSwSEy.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/iZBYmOq.jpg

Brother I usually agree with you in most things within this forum but I have to say I disagree on this one . It's quite clear that ethnic Turks have Turkic admixture , alot of them look like a turkmen+ native Anatolian mixes . The last pic of the two older ladies literally feels like I'm seeing people from Uzbekistan or a turkic village in Afghanistan . I don't think Turks claim they are pure Turkic / mongol due to the reason that central Asian Turkic themselves aren't pure Turkic let alone pre Mongol raids oghuz Turks . Even more so , half afghan iranic + afghan Turkic mixes almost always resemble some sort of Turkic influenced Turk , which further substantiates the idea that ethnic Turks have massive amounts of Turkic DNA in them.

Avicenna
06-27-2021, 10:08 AM
Their native anatolian part is like Trabzon and Rize Greeks so your assesment is generally correct i think.

I'm curious , how did such a large population of Anatolia receive all this Turkic DNA ? Is it like they show on Erugrul where waves of Turkic tribes migrated? But how did the people from the city mix with the nomads ? Are there still any tribes left ?

mentalanesthesia
06-27-2021, 10:11 AM
I'm curious , how did such a large population of Anatolia receive all this Turkic DNA ? Is it like they show on Erugrul where waves of Turkic tribes migrated? But how did the people from the city mix with the nomads ? Are there still any tribes left ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBgq1taoUsY
this is an informative video about the subject

mentalanesthesia
06-27-2021, 10:15 AM
Some tribal identities still stand (especially among yörüks) like Afshar, Kınık, Çepni etc.

Avicenna
06-27-2021, 10:15 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBgq1taoUsY
this is an informative video about the subject

Love this channel lol gonna watch it thanks kardashim

mentalanesthesia
06-27-2021, 10:16 AM
Love this channel lol gonna watch it thanks kardashim

You are welcome kardeşim. ;)

Avicenna
06-27-2021, 10:18 AM
You are welcome kardeşim. ;)

Lol I realised I've watched it already !!

mentalanesthesia
06-27-2021, 10:19 AM
Lol I realised I've watched it already !!

:thumb001:

Zoro
06-27-2021, 02:03 PM
Brother I usually agree with you in most things within this forum.

Agreed. I wasn’t basing anything on how much turkic dna. I was strictly going on looks that’s why i said you can have turkic dna but not inherit the turkic genes that affect face. I based my opinion on if i were to see these people on the streets of new york would turkey be the only thing that would come to my mind. With the guy on the right in the first pic yes some sort of turkic background would come to mind.

With the rest they could easily blend in in SE Europe or many parts of W Asia and wouldn’t stand out like the other guy. Also keep in mind this sort of thing is very subjective. For me for example they would have to look more turkic than my relatives before i start noticing Turkicness in the face

Zoro
06-27-2021, 02:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBgq1taoUsY
this is an informative video about the subject

Good video

Zoro
06-27-2021, 02:08 PM
If I saw them IRL, I'd think they're Uzbek. If Kurds can look like them, then Kurds probably have Central Asian origins like Turks do. :thumb001:

Yeah it’s not really surprising since that whole area has been under Seljuks, Ottomen, Turkmen, Parthians, Scythians, Mongols etc not even counting the Central Asian Aryan ancestry of Kurds and other Iranics