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Peterski
07-07-2021, 12:44 PM
I received my 24Genetics raw data file, and here are my calculator results based on it:


Peterski24G_K13,31.43,40.64,12.08,6.70,7.07,0,0.92 ,0,0,0.68,0,0.47,0
Peterski24G_K15,21.20,20.03,25.09,17.53,7.49,5.17, 3.23,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.24,0
Peterski24G_K12b,6.79,0,1.39,0,28.24,53.44,0,0,0.5 5,0,9.59,0

My distances to updated averages based on this raw data file:

Eurogenes K13:


<tbody>
Distance to:
Peterski24G_K13


2.47961691
South_Polish


3.16955833
Sorb_Lusatia


4.03624826
Slovak


4.14585335
Ukrainian_Galicia


4.34382320
Czech


5.74450172
Polish_Kielce


5.98529866
Moldova_Ukrainian


6.23770791
Polish_Masuria


6.46440252
Polish


6.52234620
Hungarian_North


6.59059178
Ukrainian_Carpathian


7.36082196
Slovenian


7.42568515
Ukrainian


7.66683768
Croat_North


8.85109033
German_East


9.08510870
Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest


9.25269690
Hungarian


9.26465866
Hungarian_Alföld


9.70774433
Russian_Southwest


9.78063393
Croat_East


9.93094155
Russian_Smolensk


10.01276685
Bosniak_Bosnia


10.22861183
Croat


10.85603058
Belorussian


10.90948670
Belarusian_Minsk

</tbody>

Eurogenes K15:


<tbody>
Distance to:
Peterski24G_K15


3.73850237
Sorb_Lusatia


3.89807645
South_Polish


5.43053404
Polish


5.59525692
Czech


5.86666856
North_Croat


6.02199062
Slovak


6.34958266
Polish_Kielce


6.80117637
Croatian


6.93623097
Ukrainian_Lviv


7.32915411
Ukrainian_Kiev_Avg


7.64888227
Russian_Smolensk


7.68031850
Slovenian


8.22694962
Polish_Masuria


9.27440025
Hungarian


9.66859349
Southwest_Russian


9.74652759
Ukrainian_Belgorod


9.76981576
Austrian


9.91697030
Belorussian


10.11538432
Estonian_Polish


10.46881082
East_German


10.84443636
Moldavian


11.81363619
Ukraine_East


12.00607763
Estonian


12.05468788
Southwest_Finnish


12.24474045
Serbian_Bosnia

</tbody>

Dodecad K12b:


<tbody>
Distance to:
Peterski24G_K12b


2.76902510
Sorb_Lusatia


4.85701554
Polish_Warmia-Masuria


5.77725713
Czech


5.80106025
Polish


5.90155912
Slovak


6.65100744
German


8.02124679
Swedish


8.08626613
Ukrainian


8.55683353
Polish_Mazovia


9.01326245
Belorussian


9.17803356
Hungarian_North


9.29024219
Russian_Oryol


9.36008547
Russian_Smolensk


9.65597742
Danish


9.67999483
Belarusian_Minsk


9.88860961
Hungarian_Alföld


9.90030808
German_Northwest


9.98721182
Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk


10.03579095
Russian_Ryazan


10.07785195
Russian_Kursk


10.10382106
Norwegian


10.35995174
Russian_Voronezh


10.44301202
Slovenian


10.80945420
Russian


10.94172747
Hungarian

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rothaer
07-07-2021, 01:10 PM
I received my 24Genetics raw data file, and here are my calculator results based on it:


Peterski24G_K13,31.43,40.64,12.08,6.70,7.07,0,0.92 ,0,0,0.68,0,0.47,0
Peterski24G_K15,21.20,20.03,25.09,17.53,7.49,5.17, 3.23,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.24,0
Peterski24G_K12b,6.79,0,1.39,0,28.24,53.44,0,0,0.5 5,0,9.59,0

My distances to updated averages based on this raw data file:


What's the reference for South Polish? Walddeutsche or medieval citizens of Krakau? ;-)

Peterski
07-07-2021, 01:28 PM
What's the reference for South Polish? Walddeutsche or medieval citizens of Krakau? ;-)

I think this is an old Davidski's reference, not part of the updated ones.

Laly
07-07-2021, 01:29 PM
Great results Peterski! :)

rothaer
07-07-2021, 03:48 PM
I think this is an old Davidski's reference, not part of the updated ones.

Did Davidski provide references for K13? Okay, there must have been some in the Oracle functions at GEDmatch, though not accessible there.

vbnetkhio
07-07-2021, 05:07 PM
I received my 24Genetics raw data file, and here are my calculator results based on it:


Peterski24G_K13,31.43,40.64,12.08,6.70,7.07,0,0.92 ,0,0,0.68,0,0.47,0
Peterski24G_K15,21.20,20.03,25.09,17.53,7.49,5.17, 3.23,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.24,0
Peterski24G_K12b,6.79,0,1.39,0,28.24,53.44,0,0,0.5 5,0,9.59,0


How much SNPs used in K13? The results with the most SNPs are the most reliable.

btw did you see the Polish Voivodeship averages I started making:


Greater_Poland,31.32,43.88,10.29,5.18,5.71,0.76,0. 94,0.10,0.24,0.59,0.53,0.40,0.07
Kujawy,29.72,47.46,10.58,4.90,2.24,1.00,1.55,0.10, 0.66,0.98,0.00,0.83,0.00
Lower_Silesia,28.53,43.29,12.88,8.20,3.34,0.07,1.9 2,0.00,0.59,0.00,1.18,0.00,0.00
Mazovia,28.13,46.65,10.20,5.63,5.28,0.59,1.16,0.16 ,0.65,0.66,0.48,0.18,0.22
Podlaskie,30.76,46.51,7.44,3.36,6.18,2.20,1.49,0.0 0,1.20,0.16,0.70,0.00,0.00
Silesian,28.80,44.29,13.79,3.77,5.70,0.07,1.51,0.0 0,0.00,1.61,0.12,0.34,0.00

Distance to: Peterski24G_K13
2.47961691 South_Polish
4.33799493 Greater_Poland
5.74450172 Polish_Kielce
5.90546357 Silesian
5.97194273 Lower_Silesia
6.23770791 Polish_Masuria
6.46440252 Polish
7.49070090 Mazovia
8.71603694 Podlaskie
8.96200312 Kujawy
10.65261001 Estonian_Polish

mariusz99
07-08-2021, 02:30 PM
How much SNPs used in K13? The results with the most SNPs are the most reliable.

btw did you see the Polish Voivodeship averages I started making:


Greater_Poland,31.32,43.88,10.29,5.18,5.71,0.76,0. 94,0.10,0.24,0.59,0.53,0.40,0.07
Kujawy,29.72,47.46,10.58,4.90,2.24,1.00,1.55,0.10, 0.66,0.98,0.00,0.83,0.00
Lower_Silesia,28.53,43.29,12.88,8.20,3.34,0.07,1.9 2,0.00,0.59,0.00,1.18,0.00,0.00
Mazovia,28.13,46.65,10.20,5.63,5.28,0.59,1.16,0.16 ,0.65,0.66,0.48,0.18,0.22
Podlaskie,30.76,46.51,7.44,3.36,6.18,2.20,1.49,0.0 0,1.20,0.16,0.70,0.00,0.00
Silesian,28.80,44.29,13.79,3.77,5.70,0.07,1.51,0.0 0,0.00,1.61,0.12,0.34,0.00

Distance to: Peterski24G_K13
2.47961691 South_Polish
4.33799493 Greater_Poland
5.74450172 Polish_Kielce
5.90546357 Silesian
5.97194273 Lower_Silesia
6.23770791 Polish_Masuria
6.46440252 Polish
7.49070090 Mazovia
8.71603694 Podlaskie
8.96200312 Kujawy
10.65261001 Estonian_Polish

Great that you try to make new samples.
I tried it, and I think Podlaskie should be more Eastern.
I have the closest distance to Silesian and it should be Podlaskie or Mazovia.

vbnetkhio
07-08-2021, 02:50 PM
Great that you try to make new samples.
I tried it, and I think Podlaskie should be more Eastern.
I have the closest distance to Silesian and it should be Podlaskie or Mazovia.

It's a low sample number, they will probably change in the future.
But keep in mind that there is always a lot of variation within a region.
for example, both of these samples are Mazovian, but none of them gets Mazovian as the closest population.


m1,25.71,51.74,11.66,3.77,3.35,0.19,1.27,0.48,0.6, 0.93,0,0,0.3
m2,30.09,39.9,11.03,4.61,9.69,0.6,2.03,0,0.09,0.18 ,0.86,0.71,0.17


Distance to: m2
4.45798161 Slovak
4.70665486 Ukrainian_Galicia
4.84788614 South_Polish
4.88998978 Sorb_Lusatia
5.03697330 Moldova_Ukrainian
5.58098558 Ukrainian_Carpathian
5.61520258 Hungarian_North
5.68975395 Czech
5.97457111 Greater_Poland
6.96399311 Silesian
7.03283727 Polish_Kielce
7.21386166 Slovenian
7.22157185 Croat_North
7.84198317 Ukrainian
8.28597007 Polish_Masuria
8.38242208 Polish
8.47169405 Lower_Silesia
8.50505144 Mazovia
8.55384124 Hungarian_Alföld
8.63064887 Croat_East
8.65347907 Hungarian
8.69220340 Podlaskie
8.79089870 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
8.79395247 Bosniak_Bosnia
9.21888280 Croat

Distance to: m1
4.01046132 Belarusian_Minsk
5.70591798 Russian_Smolensk
6.25832246 Lithuanian
6.30379251 Kujawy
6.41402370 Belorussian
6.45753049 Mazovia
6.92952379 Russian_average
7.26085394 Russian_Southwest
7.46801848 Ukrainian
8.05890811 Polish_Kielce
8.21912404 Polish
8.66545440 Russian_Kargopol
8.74384355 Silesian
8.74638783 Russian_Kostroma
9.07254650 Latvian
9.20285825 Podlaskie
9.81399001 Estonian
9.82477481 Mordovian
10.17265944 Lower_Silesia
10.19821063 Greater_Poland
10.21049950 Polish_Masuria
10.64143787 Russian_Northern_Dvina
11.67016709 South_Polish
12.39173515 Moldova_Ukrainian
12.66833849 East_Finnish

Peterski
07-08-2021, 03:52 PM
It's a low sample number, they will probably change in the future.

The samples that you used for "Kujawy" are not typical. This guy is typical in Kujawsko-Pomorskie Voivodeship:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?292067-Polish-R1b-Z2103-from-Kuyavia-Wielkopolska-borderland

vbnetkhio
07-08-2021, 04:09 PM
The samples that you used for "Kujawy" are not typical. This guy is typical in Kujawsko-Pomorskie Voivodeship:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?292067-Polish-R1b-Z2103-from-Kuyavia-Wielkopolska-borderland

thanks, added

Polish_Kujawy-Pomerania,30.13,45.43,10.91,4.85,4.39,0.87,1.03,0. 16,0.44,1.11,0.00,0.66,0.00

the ones I used are also from the Kujawy-Pomerania/Wielkopolska border.

Peterski
07-08-2021, 04:13 PM
the ones I used are also from the Kujawy-Pomerania/Wielkopolska border.

No, they were from Mazovian border, if I remember correctly ???

vbnetkhio
07-08-2021, 04:25 PM
No, they were from Mazovian border, if I remember correctly ???

I used those academics for the Mazovian avereage, actually. Those coordinates looked random so I rather went by Mazovian as you tagged them.

For Kujawy-Pomerania I used these 2 siblings with ancestry from Gróbce,Orle,Skaszyn and Zbijewek (Zbijewek is technically in Greater Poland, but at the border, so good enough for now)


k1,28.72,49.16,11.58,3.92,2.59,0,1.41,0.2,1.31,0.3 2,0,0.78,0
k2,30.71,45.75,9.58,5.87,1.88,2,1.69,0,0,1.64,0,0. 87,0

Leto
07-08-2021, 04:45 PM
The Mazovian samples that are on Peterski's Gedmatch account were used by me for the Polish_Mazovia average for Dodecad. Are they okay, Piotr?