Can i pass in sicily?

[Sasaolo68]

Do you think i resemble the rapper Caparezza?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210707/284dba88e33c50389db7a599eb4956f6.jpg

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[El_Jibaro]

On darker side of the spectrum for Sicilians, yeah I think so.

[renaissance12]

On darker side of the spectrum for Sicilians, yeah I think so.

I agree.. You can find people like him in Sicily and Calabria too....

[Sasaolo68]

On darker side of the spectrum for Sicilians, yeah I think so.My skin tone is not on the darker side of the spectrum, just my facial features that are a bit Sicilian

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[El_Jibaro]

My skin tone is not on the darker side of the spectrum, just my facial features that are a bit Sicilian

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Hmm, compared to most Terroni I have met you would definitely be on the darker side, but you wouldn't be super atypical either. I do not know if you have been to Terrone land, but you see a lot of diverse looks there and you would def fit into the spectrum.

[Sasaolo68]

Hmm, compared to most Terroni I have met you would definitely be on the darker side, but you wouldn't be super atypical either. I do not know if you have been to Terrone land, but you see a lot of diverse looks there and you would def fit into the spectrum.I have been to Sicily, my skin tone is actually very common for Southern Europeans, unless you have seen Nordic influenced Sicilians, there are some of that influence in them



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[El_Jibaro]

I have been to Sicily, my skin tone is actually very common for Southern Europeans, unless you have seen Nordic influenced Sicilians, there are some of that influence in them



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I have seen all kinds of Sicilians, people have a stereotype of what Terroni are supposed to look like but they are very diverse people in actuality. Also it is not just about your skin tone, but hair and eye pigmentation which is dark. There are people darker than you in Sicily, yes, but I would say the average is still lighter.

Saludos.

[Reozek]

Caparezza is apulian

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[kevinmac]

Yes, very easily.

[Avgvstvs]

You look like a lighter skinned version of a moroccan that lives in my neighbourhood

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[Sasaolo68]

You look like a lighter skinned version of a moroccan that lives in my neighbourhood

Inviato dal mio SM-A405FN utilizzando TapatalkI have a bit of african + iberian, that is exactly what some Moroccans are, some of them have Iberian blood + Riffian or Saharid blood

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[Avgvstvs]

I have a bit of african + iberian, that is exactly what some Moroccans are, some of them have Iberian blood + Riffian or Saharid blood

Enviado de meu SM-A105M usando o TapatalkYou display a look that might be common among some MENA groups. Average sicilians don't really look like you.

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[Sasaolo68]

You display a look that might be common among some MENA groups. Average sicilians don't really look like you.

Inviato dal mio SM-A405FN utilizzando TapatalkDude i am not telling you that the average Sicilian looks like me, that is obvious, since i am not even fully european, i just asked if i could pass as an one, and IMO i would say that i can pass in Sicily. I am actually more Iberian than anything.



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[Avgvstvs]

Dude i am not telling you that the average Sicilian looks like me, that it's obvious, since i am not even fully european, i just asked if i could pass as an one, and IMO i would say that i can pass in Sicily. I am actually more Iberian than anything.



Enviado de meu SM-A105M usando o TapatalkWell, very exotic sicilian specimen do exist, but uf you were sicilian you would stand out among the populations....exotic sicilains usually look more West Asian/Near Eastern (likely Neolithic ancestry showing up) and I think you're more "semitic" in look, even if the latter has no phenotypical meaning.

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[Sasaolo68]

Well, very exotic sicilian specimen do exist, but uf you were sicilian you would stand out among the populations....exotic sicilains usually look more West Asian/Near Eastern (likely Neolithic ancestry showing up) and I think you're more "semitic" in look, even if the latter has no phenotypical meaning.

Inviato dal mio SM-A405FN utilizzando TapatalkI look a bit more Armenoid IMO, but i think am more Iberian influencedhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210709/a8b296d0d03bc2711e58c3ebda586e16.jpg

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[Avgvstvs]

I look a bit more Armenoid IMO, but i think am more Iberian influencedhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210709/a8b296d0d03bc2711e58c3ebda586e16.jpg

Enviado de meu SM-A105M usando o TapatalkI'll leave it to the iberian members[emoji16]

I think it's mainly eye area, curly hair and nose that give you a rather "exotic" appearance.

You're latino, right?
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[Sasaolo68]

I'll leave it to the iberian members[emoji16]

I think it's mainly eye area, curly hair and nose that give you a rather "exotic" appearance.

You're latino, right?
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Yes, i am latino

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[Avgvstvs]

Yes, i am latino

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[El_Jibaro]

Well, very exotic sicilian specimen do exist, but uf you were sicilian you would stand out among the populations....exotic sicilains usually look more West Asian/Near Eastern (likely Neolithic ancestry showing up) and I think you're more "semitic" in look, even if the latter has no phenotypical meaning.

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Having seen more pictures of him I agree with you, he has more of a North African than a West Asian influenced vibe.

[Avgvstvs]

Having seen more pictures of him I agree with you, he has more of a North African than a West Asian influenced vibe.Yeah, he doesn't really look like an exotic italian

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[jfgh676]

Brazil has the biggest population of lebanese outside of lebanon. There is also palestinians and syrian immigrants there. In my opinion you look like a typical castizo to me but with middle eastern influence but it might be SSA influence aswell

[Sasaolo68]

Brazil has the biggest population of lebanese outside of lebanon. There is also palestinians and syrian immigrants there. In my opinion you look like a typical castizo to me but with middle eastern influence but it might be SSA influence aswell

You are right Brazil have a lot of people with Levantine heritage, but i don't have Lebanese ancestry, my look could be the result of the Andaluzian blood + African blood

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[jfgh676]

You are right Brazil have a lot of people with Levantine heritage, but i don't have Lebanese ancestry, my look could be the result of the Andaluzian blood + African blood

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You are brazilian,so logically wouldn't it be portuguese heritage+ssa? Then you would be like the typical brasil mix. Andaluz is in spain and i don't think spain sent spanish colonials there.

[Sasaolo68]

You are brazilian,so logically wouldn't it be portuguese heritage+ssa? Then you would be like the typical brasil mix. Andaluz is in spain and i don't think spain sent spanish colonials there.Well, actually a lot of people from Spain migrated also to Brazil since the colonial age, i have some Galician heritage from La Coruña and some Andaluzian heritage from Málaga, my Portuguese side is from Porto and Lisboa

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[Rafael Passoni]

Which country from Horn of Africa?

[Erronkari]

Not an expert in south italian phenos, I've been to Basilicata and Calabria one time only, but I think that probably you pass among calabrians... at least in Reggio Calabria area... I guess...

[SneedsFeedNSeed]

I also vote yes.

[Sasaolo68]

Which country from Horn of Africa?I don't know exactly, but probably something from there or from Sub Saharan Africa, i know that i had a biracial great grandfather and that is it, but i researched a lot of my family ancestry and i discovered that i had a lot of Spaniards in my family and some Italians, the others were Portuguese

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[Piragibe]

Brazil has the biggest population of lebanese outside of lebanon. There is also palestinians and syrian immigrants there. In my opinion you look like a typical castizo to me but with middle eastern influence but it might be SSA influence aswell

Libanese ancestry in Brazil is overestimate. Contemporary data on the number of Arab descendants in Brazil is highly inconsistent. The national IBGE census has not questioned the ancestry of the Brazilian people for several decades, considering that immigration to Brazil declined almost to 0 in the second half of the 20th century. In the last census questioning ancestry, in 1940, 107,074 Brazilians said they were the children of a Syrian, Lebanese, Palestinian, Iraqi or Arab father. The native Arabs were 46,105 and the naturalized Brazilians, 5,447. Brazil had 41,169,321 inhabitants at the time of the census, so Arabs and children were 0.38% of Brazil's population in 1940. [2] Currently, many sources cite that millions of Brazilians are of Arab descent. Itamaraty claims that there are between 7 and 10 million Lebanese descendants in Brazil. [3] However, independent research, based on the interviewee's self-declaration, found much smaller numbers. According to a 2008 IBGE survey, 0.9% of the white Brazilians interviewed said they had a family background in the Middle East, which would give about one million people. [4] According to another 1999 survey by the sociologist and former president of the Brazilian Institute of Geography and Statistics (IBGE) Simon Schwartzman, only 0.48% of the interviewed Brazilians claimed to have Arab ancestry, a percentage that, in a population of about 200 million of Brazilians, would represent around 960 thousand people. [5]

[Sasaolo68]

Bump!

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[Sasaolo68]

Now seriously, not trolling, and i know that i am not fully european plus my intention is not to trolls Sicilians or to do something similar to that...


http://imgur.com/a/GKwS2u6

http://imgur.com/ZA9GIvP

I am confused if i am mainly just a Dinarid or Taurid + some of type of Med, along with some minor SSA...

[Sasaolo68]

I have heard that some Cubans and Brazilians that carry a bit of SSA dna can show pseudo-Armenoid features, i am a bit sephardic, but it is a minor component so i don't know how that ancestry could influence the entire phenotype of someone...

[Erronkari]

Yes, you do.
I perceive a little resemblance between you and our Venezuelan mate LorenzoSpiteri who looks very south-italian.

[Sasaolo68]

Yes, you do.
I perceive a little resemblance between you and our Venezuelan mate LorenzoSpiteri who looks very south-italian.Interesting, that venezuelan guy looks similar to a cousin of mine from my Northern Italian/Iberian + minor SSA/Sephardi's side of my family.

[Sasaolo68]

I have heard that some Cubans and Brazilians that carry a bit of SSA dna can show pseudo-Armenoid features, i am a bit sephardic, but it is a minor component so i don't know how that ancestry could influence the entire phenotype of someone...

Does anyone have ever seen some example of Cubans, Puerto Ricans or Brazilians that are pred Euro + minor SSA with pseudo-Armenoid features?

I believe that my euro side would be generally some type of Dinarid or Baskid with some Med variation, along with minor SSA and minor Semitic influences...

[Sasaolo68]

Is there anyone very good here at classifying admixed phenotypes?
Where are the Dominican, Venezuelan, Puerto Rican members to help a bit?

[Genetic]

Does anyone have ever seen some example of Cubans, Puerto Ricans or Brazilians that are pred Euro + minor SSA with pseudo-Armenoid features?

I believe that my euro side would be generally some type of Dinarid or Baskid with some Med variation, along with minor SSA and minor Semitic influences...

I think you definitely look like a Litorid (with maybe a little SSA influence). In my opinion you could fit in Sicily.

[Sasaolo68]

I think you definitely look like a Litorid (with maybe a little SSA influence). In my opinion you could fit in Sicily.

Thanks!! It makes sense i believe, i think Litorid + Armenoid and minor SSA would be more accurate.

[Sasaolo68]

More opinions?

http://imgur.com/a/DhmSRFg

http://imgur.com/a/QtnrNjF

I can see the Armenoid and Levantine in the ears and eye area, but the nose and eyes seems maybe Litorid or Dinarid.

[Sasaolo68]

Bump!

[Sebastianus Rex]

Imo you can...a bit atypical but ok, you wouldn't be seen as a foreigner (you don't look Paki) on the end of the day you would fit on the general spectrum.

But perhaps you're asking on the wrong place, try to do it on ItalicRoots and hear what the new world/north americanoid and australoid fake Italians have to say about it. xD[/FONT]

[catgeorge]

Very atypical.

Sicilians are more like this.

https://www.zerohanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/EG8XJcZU4AAI04a.jpeg

[Avgvstvs]

Extremely atypical but i think that you might pass.

Among the sicilians at my uni i hardly saw anyone looking like you, but similar types can occur.

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[Sasaolo68]

Very atypical.

Sicilians are more like this.

https://www.zerohanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/EG8XJcZU4AAI04a.jpegThat guy looks like could be some relative of mine.

I am still confused about my taxonomy...

[Sasaolo68]

Thanks for the help guys!!

[kevinmac]

Very atypical.

Sicilians are more like this.

https://www.zerohanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/EG8XJcZU4AAI04a.jpeg

Isn't he a little northern for sicily?

[catgeorge]

Isn't he a little northern for sicily?

Really? More Northern than these people - because they're actually Sicilians. You are not Sikeliot are you?

https://cdn-0.travellingjezebel.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/IMG-20190803-WA0006.jpg?ezimgfmt=ng:webp/ngcb16

[Sebastianus Rex]

Extremely atypical but i think that you might pass.

Among the sicilians at my uni i hardly saw anyone looking like you, but similar types can occur.

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Same here. Imo he could also pass as atypical in Portugal, even if he look very ME shifted some similar types do occur.

[Avgvstvs]

Same here. Imo he could also pass as atypical in Portugal, even if he look very ME shifted some similar types do occur.Let's be honest: it is evident that there are italians and iberians who look exotic, only some deny it(won't say any name but you know ), they simply are minorities among both the populations. Anthro myths are hard to extinct

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[Mortimer]

Tu si bell a mamma tua tu sei zuccero per me dolce dolce dolce

[Sebastianus Rex]

Let's be honest: it is evident that there are italians and iberians who look exotic, only some deny it(won't say any name but you know ), they simply are minorities among both the populations. Anthro myths are hard to extinct

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That's a question of perspective also, what is exotic? What determines it?

From an evolutionary natural selection perspective, under the latitude 45 and more so under 40, the exotic should be having very pale skin and light hair etc. We should stop using like there's a uniform criteria for it, since it depends mostly from where we are from.

[Avgvstvs]

That's a question of perspective also, what is exotic? What determines it?

From an evolutionary natural selection perspective, under the latitude 45 and more so under 40, the exotic should be having very pale skin and light hair etc. We should stop using like there's a uniform criteria for it, since it depends mostly from where we are from.Of course

It is conventional, often what is exotic for me is not exotic for you and viceversa

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[Sasaolo68]

Isn't he a little northern for sicily?Too northern lol... That guy is the definition of a Southern Euro looking dude IMO.

[Sasaolo68]

Bump!

[Sasaolo68]

http://imgur.com/a/ASYxgFG

http://imgur.com/a/OrUnz1i

http://imgur.com/a/rYgy0DQ

[LorenzoSpitaleri]

Passable. More like anatolian or levantine but many sicilians pass as such.

[placebo]

Passable. More like anatolian or levantine but many sicilians pass as such.

He doesn't look Turkish, if you mean pre-Turkish Anatolian yeah maybe some sort of.

[Sasaolo68]

He doesn't look Turkish, if you mean pre-Turkish Anatolian yeah maybe some sort of.Who were the pre-Turkish Anatolians? Anatolian Greeks?

[Alazair]

you would pass better in the levant but yes I think you can also pass in Sicily

[Sasaolo68]

bump!

[SangreAzul]

look like some italiens in spain.. i see around. Usually have the more sharp features you are okay

[Sasaolo68]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220120/69214d1f63671600bc360fee25004ad5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220120/897711fac3abfaf3b5129bc013039c92.jpg

Don't quote please.

[Rafael Passoni]

I'm curious to see how much Sephardi you score.

[Sasaolo68]

I am very curious too, the time period for the dna results is very long...

[NSXD60]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TujfCkXk_U
You remind me of Canadian Jewish actor Saul Rubinek.

[LorenzoSpitaleri]

yes

[Sasaolo68]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TujfCkXk_U
You remind me of Canadian Jewish actor Saul Rubinek.I can see the resemblance, i look like a better looking version of him.

[ANXIETY (ADEPT)]

yes, but thats not saying much xD

[Sasaolo68]

yes, but thats not saying much xDWhat did you mean by writing that?

[Sasaolo68]

bump!

[ANXIETY (ADEPT)]

What did you mean by writing that?

There are many phenotypes in Sicily. Many people can pass there. It's almost like me asking if I could pass in LatAm

[Sasaolo68]

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[Sasaolo68]

Bump!

[Sasaolo68]

Same here. Imo he could also pass as atypical in Portugal, even if he look very ME shifted some similar types do occur.I have only scored 3% middle eastern/north african on my test though, with 90% being european(Pred. Iberian + 14% German/French and 7% Northern and Southern Italian), 5% horn african and 2% amerindian.

[Sasaolo68]

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[Sasaolo68]

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[Sasaolo68]

I have heard that some Cubans and Brazilians that carry a bit of SSA dna can show pseudo-Armenoid features, i am a bit sephardic, but it is a minor component so i don't know how that ancestry could influence the entire phenotype of someone...

Correcting here, i am actually 0% jewish, but 3% maghrebi instead... And also less Northern Italian that i thought, and even more Western and Central European than Northern Italian.

[Sasaolo68]

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[Sasaolo68]

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[Sasaolo68]

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[Sasaolo68]

I'll leave it to the iberian members[emoji16]

I think it's mainly eye area, curly hair and nose that give you a rather "exotic" appearance.

You're latino, right?
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Eye area looks very middle easterner, i disagree only on the nose though.

[Sasaolo68]

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[Nomad]

My opinion:

Calabrian
Sicilian(with exotic looking)
Turkish(mostly in southern areas)

[Sylvanas]

Visited Sicily several times and my opinion is yes, you can. Not "typical", but yes, there are ppl like you.

[Albertón]

yes, i think so

[Sasaolo68]

Visited Sicily several times and my opinion is yes, you can. Not "typical", but yes, there are ppl like you.

which nationalities do you think i would be guessed as in your country?

[Sylvanas]

which nationalities do you think i would be guessed as in your country?

From Greece, Spain,Turkey, Middle East...or Brazil. :D

[Graywolf]

You would fit in Egypt imo. You look like arab+kurdish mixture.

[Derisee]

Yes, sure.

[Wizz]

you look exotic for European standards. You are obviously of mixed heritage. you can pass in sicily where there is north african influence

[Awuddah]

Yes.

[Sasaolo68]

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[Sasaolo68]

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