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Delacroix
07-09-2021, 10:23 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/FHMCLVkP/download.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/XYGDqzqG/download-1.jpg

Tooting Carmen
07-09-2021, 10:39 PM
Baltid

David24
07-09-2021, 10:40 PM
Finnish

Vanu
07-09-2021, 10:44 PM
Savolaxid

Pietro97
07-09-2021, 11:02 PM
sami

Latinus
07-10-2021, 04:16 AM
Baltid.

kevinmac
07-10-2021, 04:17 AM
East Baltid

Delacroix
07-10-2021, 03:08 PM
Bump

Question4U
07-10-2021, 03:54 PM
East Baltic

Uranous
07-10-2021, 07:46 PM
Baltid w

Halvard
07-10-2021, 08:10 PM
East Baltid

Oliver109
07-10-2021, 09:11 PM
Hot like Balti

aherne
07-11-2021, 04:27 AM
Very pure CM (absolutely no Aryan influence whatsoever) and super blonde as a result. In Scandinavia the more CM the blonder...

travv
07-11-2021, 08:33 AM
Looks like domesticated version of Tatar bestie Alida.

“Baltid” is broken Uralid.

Lemminkäinen
07-11-2021, 10:33 AM
Cousin of Antti Tuisku.

Asten
07-11-2021, 10:43 AM
East Baltid. Russian vibe

Übermensch
07-11-2021, 12:13 PM
Very pure CM (absolutely no Aryan influence whatsoever) and super blonde as a result. In Scandinavia the more CM the blonder...

Do you think red hair might be correlated with CM, as well? How common is red hair in Scandinavia?

Arūnas
07-11-2021, 01:56 PM
Looks like domesticated version of Tatar bestie Alida.

“Baltid” is broken Uralid.

friendly reminder for uneducated people ---> https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?333012-Classify-Tatar-girl/page6

Token
07-11-2021, 02:04 PM
Very pure CM (absolutely no Aryan influence whatsoever) and super blonde as a result. In Scandinavia the more CM the blonder...

There was no blond hair in Europe before Corded Ware "Aryans" brought it from the steppes.

Mathieson et al:
http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/05/09/135616
The derived allele of the KITLG SNP rs12821256 that is associated with – and likely causal for – blond hair in Europeans is present in one hunter-gatherer from each of Samara, Motala and Ukraine (I0124, I0014 and I1763), as well as several later individuals with Steppe ancestry. Since the allele is found in populations with EHG but not WHG ancestry, it suggests that its origin is in the Ancient North Eurasian (ANE) population. Consistent with this, we observe that earliest known individual with the derived allele is the [Siberian] ANE individual Afontova Gora 3 which is directly dated to 16130-15749 cal BCE (14710±60 BP, MAMS-27186: a previously unpublished date that we newly report here).



Do you think red hair might be correlated with CM, as well? How common is red hair in Scandinavia?
Same as above. There was no red hair in Europe out of the steppes before IE expansion.

Fuchsia
07-11-2021, 02:21 PM
looks east baltid.

I've seen some Scandinavians that look partly Asian(Mongoloid), so not really a surprise to me.

Uranous
07-11-2021, 07:21 PM
Do you think red hair might be correlated with CM, as well? How common is red hair in Scandinavia?

Pure Cromanoids people are related with Western hunter garther

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&u=http://secher.bernard.free.fr/blog/index.php?post/2017/05/28/M%25C3%25A9langes-g%25C3%25A9n%25C3%25A9tiques-entre-chasseurs-cueilleurs-et-fermiers-en-Roumanie


The three hunter-gatherers from Romania are grouped together with the other individuals of the European Mesolithic, including in particular the two new Iberian genomes. They are also close to contemporary individuals from Northern Europe. Conversely, the individual of the Eneolithic of Romania is situated between the European hunter-gatherers and the farmers of the European Neolithic. These results are confirmed by analysis with the ADMIXTURE .



http://image.noelshack.com/minis/2021/27/7/1626032734-2017-gonzalesfortes-figure1c.png (http://www.noelshack.com/2021-27-7-1626032734-2017-gonzalesfortes-figure1c.jpg)









The three hunter-gatherers of Romania (SC1_Meso, SC2_Meso and OC1_Meso) are made up of a single ancestry (in blue) corresponding to the hunter-gatherers of the West, while the individual from the Eneolithic of Romania (GB1_Eneo) is of a mixture between two constituted hunter-gatherer (in blue) and Neolithic farmer (in orange). Interestingly, this individual has a high proportion of hunter-gatherer ancestry to individuals from the Middle European Neolithic. Also, except for the individuals of the European Bronze Age, this individual of the Eneolithic of Romania does not have the component (in green) resulting from the Steppes

Uranous
07-11-2021, 07:24 PM
Pure Cromanoids phénotype survivor before anatolians and Eurasians invasion look this.


http://image.noelshack.com/minis/2021/27/7/1626031446-cromagnon.png (http://www.noelshack.com/2021-27-7-1626031446-cromagnon.jpg)

aherne
07-12-2021, 04:29 AM
Do you think red hair might be correlated with CM, as well? How common is red hair in Scandinavia?

Red hair doesn't exist (and so does platinum blond) in pure Aryan-looking individuals, so it is probably a native inheritance.

Übermensch
07-12-2021, 07:57 AM
Red hair doesn't exist (and so does platinum blond) in pure Aryan-looking individuals, so it is probably a native inheritance.

I personally think it is correlated with neanderthal.

SneedsFeedNSeed
07-12-2021, 08:32 AM
Savolax-Lappid.

Delacroix
07-12-2021, 02:03 PM
Bump

Davy Jones's Locker
07-14-2021, 03:07 PM
East Baltic.

Grace O'Malley
07-14-2021, 03:13 PM
I personally think it is correlated with neanderthal.

Red hair in modern humans is not inherited from Neanderthals.


But as is so often the case in science, the situation is far more complicated than most of us would have imagined. Red hair wasn’t inherited from Neanderthals at all. It now turns out they didn’t even carry the gene for it!

https://theconversation.com/neanderthals-didnt-give-us-red-hair-but-they-certainly-changed-the-way-we-sleep-85173

Token
07-14-2021, 03:40 PM
Red hair in modern humans is not inherited from Neanderthals.

https://theconversation.com/neanderthals-didnt-give-us-red-hair-but-they-certainly-changed-the-way-we-sleep-85173

The paper is much less conclusive than the media makes it out to be:


... we conclude that if variants contributing to red hair were present in Neanderthals, they were probably not at high frequency.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, especially when we have so few Neanderthal genomes sequenced. Personally i think the most highly penetrant red hair alleles do have a Neanderthal origin, maybe in Siberia where it was passed down to the ancestors of ANE, and the rest is history (the close association between red and blond hair doesn't looks like a coincidence, both may have been originally carried by the same population). For example, the earliest carrier of R151C as far as i know is Kostenki14, who lived 36000 years ago in Russia and who coincidentally was more Neanderthal than most of his contemporaries. Interestingly his Neanderthal segments were longer than usual, suggesting that he had recent Neanderthal ancestors. Not coincidentally, Kostenki14 represents the ancestral population of hunter-gatherers who hunted mammoths throughout Siberia and ended up giving rise to ANE in eastern Siberia - he is the single best fit for the West Eurasian ancestry in ANE.

Grace O'Malley
07-14-2021, 03:58 PM
The paper is much less conclusive than the media makes it out to be:



Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, especially when we have so few Neanderthal genomes sequenced. Personally i think the most highly penetrant red hair alleles do have a Neanderthal origin, maybe in Siberia where it was passed down to the ancestors of ANE, and the rest is history (the close association between red and blond hair doesn't looks like a coincidence, both may have been originally carried by the same population). For example, the earliest carrier of R151C as far as i know is Kostenki14, who lived 36000 years ago in Russia and who coincidentally was more Neanderthal than most of his contemporaries. Interestingly his Neanderthal segments were longer than usual, suggesting that he had recent Neanderthal ancestors. Not coincidentally, Kostenki14 represents the ancestral population of hunter-gatherers who hunted mammoths throughout Siberia and ended up giving rise to ANE in eastern Siberia - he is the single best fit for the West Eurasian ancestry in ANE.

Everything I've read says no.


Lalueza-Fox and Hofreiter note that the absence of the Neanderthal-specific mc1r sequence in modern humans suggests that pale skin evolved independently in Neanderthals and humans, rather than from interbreeding between the two.

There are a few scientific studies all stating the same thing.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/neanderthal-dna-you-carry-may-have-surprisingly-little-impact-your-looks-moods

There are some studies on line that you can search for.


Modern humans display similar mutations of MC1R, and people who have two copies of this mutation have red hair and pale skin. However, no modern human has the exact mutation that Neanderthals had, which means that both Neanderthals and humans evolved this phenotype independent of each other.


https://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/genetics/ancient-dna-and-neanderthals/dna-genotypes-and-phenotypes

Token
07-14-2021, 04:05 PM
Everything I've read says no.

There are a few scientific studies all stating the same thing.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/neanderthal-dna-you-carry-may-have-surprisingly-little-impact-your-looks-moods

There are some studies on line that you can search for.

https://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/genetics/ancient-dna-and-neanderthals/dna-genotypes-and-phenotypes
"no modern human has the exact mutation that Neanderthals had, based on the three Neanderthal genomes we were able to sequence", they should've added. That's like sequencing a dozen Africans and concluding that all anatomically modern humans were black skinned, black haired and frizzy haired.

Everybody knows science media is shitty (https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/good-thinking/201605/john-oliver-hilariously-explains-bad-science-media).

PlattitüdenPaule
07-14-2021, 04:13 PM
Now that`s my kinda woman!